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Lets start a thread purely about your first thoughts on the Nokia 800 and woudl you recommend us to upgrade to one of these phones..
My first impression was wow that screen looks amazing with windows pone. The black really is true black and the ever so slight curve at the edges means it so nice to swipe. My only gripe is the 16gb though i use my zune for music so not that bad and that the screen could of streched a tad more to the edges of the phone. Saying that though i dont mind 3.7 i think its actually a nice size. The other think i notice is that yes it may be a "plastic" phone it feels so solid in the hand. My desire or hd7 have not felt so well put together.
Oh i forgot another design flaw is that all the buttons are down one side making it really hard to find a car dock that does not press the power.
loving my lumia 800, very pleased with it. just upgrded from an n900 which was amazing. its very different to the n900 and there are a few improvements needed but still loving the lumia.
agreed with the lacking in memory or card slot.
not being able to use the phone as a mass storage device is a huge massive fail and going to cause me problems at work.
Very Impressed
I've had this for 3 days now, and it's just a dream to use.
I previously had an HTC Desire (rooted and running the latest CM Mod on 2.3.7), which I found was pretty decent, but the lack of internal storage was driving me crazy, (system, internal storage only, apps were updating and getting bigger forcing me to uninstall apps that I actually wanted!).
Even though the screens of these 2 phones seem the same on paper (3.7" AMOLED, 800x480 resolution), the Nokia's just looks leaps and bounds better, there's no pinkish tinge on low brightness settings and the colours just pop. Also, whatever Nokia have done to make it work better in outdoor lighting has worked too. On my Desire, I could not see anything on the screen outside on a bright day, even with screen brightness at full. The Nokia is still clear outside, even at medium brightness.)
The only gripes I have are OS related, and are not that significant. I was surprised to see that I was unable to change the browser home page for example, but the most annoying thing is not being able to scrub through audio tracks. Having to hold down the next track button, especially on long tracks is pretty poor. It seems to work on some locally stored videos, but not on the YouTube site for example, also, I'm surprised that there is no dedicated YouTube app, (glorified bookmark != app)!
I'm very happy with it in general, and the guys at the office are suitably impressed too.
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The only gripes I have are OS related, and are not that significant. I was surprised to see that I was unable to change the browser home page for example,
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pin the start page to the home screen and launch using that instead of the browser icon.
andy_con said:
not being able to use the phone as a mass storage device is a huge massive fail and going to cause me problems at work.
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Is this your first foray into WP7? This limitation is by no means a fail on the part of Nokia. WP7 does not allow for hot swapping of memory cards and also does not allow for USB Mass Storage function due to the way that it treats external memory as internal memory.
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Is this your first foray into WP7? This limitation is by no means a fail on the part of Nokia. WP7 does not allow for hot swapping of memory cards and also does not allow for USB Mass Storage function due to the way that it treats external memory as internal memory.
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I still dont get what is wrong with a memory stick on your keys. Its easier and more practical and as an IT tech i would deffo say i would rather give the emplies them then use mobile phones. I agree it would be better to have more files supported by zune but to get into the file system is no benefit then to break it.
I am new user in WP7
I think Lumia 800 is great. I love its shape and the screen.
But seems the battery life is not really long (even compare to my existing Android Nexus one)
I love it too and will be my next phone as soon as I can buy one unlocked and unbranded. So far no one seems to be selling them this way.
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I love it too and will be my next phone as soon as I can buy one unlocked and unbranded. So far no one seems to be selling them this way.
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Try this one mate, it's going for £470 sim-free.
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/NOKIA-LUMIA-800/HANDSET&clearance=false
Seems to be in stock (black).
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NOKIA_LUMIA_800/HANDSET/NEW
Regards Dousan...
I'm loving it, the battery seems to be a bit hit and miss but hopefully the update that's due out will sort that out
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Dousan said:
Try this one mate, it's going for £470 sim-free.
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/NOKIA-LUMIA-800/HANDSET&clearance=false
Seems to be in stock (black).
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NOKIA_LUMIA_800/HANDSET/NEW
Regards Dousan...
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Try Phones 4U! Sim-free £399
Its brilliant, much faster and better looking than my old phone, a Sony Ericsson X1. The battery seems to only just last a day, hopefully the update will fix that.
andy_con said:
not being able to use the phone as a mass storage device is a huge massive fail and going to cause me problems at work.
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I think that is possible to do that, but I'm not sure if Dev Unlock is needed or not...
I have some questions i hope you guys can answer me.
Do the Lumia have a blue tint when you tilt the phone on the screen like the N9 have. That was really not nice looking on The N9 and annoyed my eye (very visual and need things to be clear and sharp and continious colour wise)?
Also do the txt and white/light backgrounds/icons have that magenta edge on the left side like the N9?
If yes is it as bad as on the N9?
Regards Dousan...
ale07 said:
The battery seems to only just last a day,
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A day is good considering Android phones tend to be half a day and iPhone 4s is also around 14 hours for many users.
Dousan said:
I have some questions i hope you guys can answer me.
Do the Lumia have a blue tint when you tilt the phone on the screen like the N9 have. That was really not nice looking on The N9 and annoyed my eye (very visual and need things to be clear and sharp and continious colour wise)?
Also do the txt and white/light backgrounds/icons have that magenta edge on the left side like the N9?
If yes is it as bad as on the N9?
Regards Dousan...
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In my experience no and no. The screen looks pretty much perfect from all angles and I've noticed no issues with magenta tinting. I thought I did at first but it was confirmed as being nothing by a few other people
Agreed, the phone screen is bang on, had a Omnia 7 before my lumia 800 and the screen is just as good, also the screen doesn't appear to attract anywhere near the amount of fingerprints as the Omnia 7 outdoor work is easy too, screen works very well.
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Guys, more impressions please! Very interested in this device
And please, check the phone vibration level. Is it ok to use it on vibro mode in pocket?
Love this phone. Moving on from android and the windows 7 UI just looks so much fresher. I love the WP7 people hub integration with social networks.
But on to the phone. The Nokia design is really nice and even with the phone case that was provided free with it, it has very good styling. The screen is so black that you can't tell where it ends and the case begins because the glass stretches all the way across the front.
Camera seems to be good. However, I did take some pics yesterday and found that if you tap the screen to focus and take a shot it sets the shot to macro which was annoying. That's probably a WP7 "feature"
I don't really like the power button on the side to be honest but can see why it has been put there. When it's in my car dock, I can't activate the phone because of the way it is held in the cradle. Will have to rethink that.
Call quality is what you would expect from Nokia. I don't know if the signal quality is any better than anything else. I have tried the speaker phone and it is good as well. Nice and clear.
Not sure I can comment on any more Nokia specific features as I've only had the phone for 5 days. Do give the battery a chance to condition as it is getting better each day for me. Remember to do a full charge.
Stu
Hi all. I am thinking about buying a Titan to replace my Focus but i haven't followed this phone too closely and i would love some input.
The Focus is a great size and Windows Phone is fantastic but it feels like a Samsung, meaning cheap and plastic. Also I would like a front facing camera.
Most of my phones have been HTC and I miss the quality feel of an HTC device. I'm concerned about the size of the device and whether it will fit well in my pocket. Spec wise it isn't much bigger than the HD2 but that doesn't always tell the whole story.
Anyway the reason for posting is to ask whether there are any known issues to be aware of, are there any model or versions to look for when buying second hand and is there a working unlock for this device?
Lastly has anyone made the move from the Focus to the Titan and if so what are your thoughts?
I think alot of people with the AT&T Titan is having issues. The only issue I have right now is that the WiFi randomly loses the connection so I gotta go into settings>wifi and just let it search, it finds the hotspot and automatically connects to it again. Annoying.
I have a Titan on AT&T, as does my girlfriend. We have had zero issues so far. Call quality could be a little better, but overall I have no complaints about the device. It definitely feels solid and quality built when handling it, and has a decent heft to it that you obviously don't get with plastic devices.
I'd say if you are looking to make the switch, go ahead and do it. From what I have experienced, it's a great device. I came from a GS2 on Sprint and the size of this phone actually does not bother me. I am 5'9" tall with "normal" sized hands and I can still perform all functions on this device with one hand.
I have the same experience: came from the Focus and haven't looked back. I don't have the connection issues many experience, but I agree that the call quality is horrible. I've never had so many people have trouble hearing me - it's almost unusable on speaker phone because nobody can understand me. Fortunately, I hate being on the phone.
Another thing is that my wife has dropped her Focus hundreds of times and it always breaks apart on impact with minimal damage. I don't drop my phone often, but I had the same experience with my Focus. Of course, when I was getting used to the size of my Titan, I did drop it once, just one day before my case arrived. Naturally, there was a huge gouge in the metal body. It's solid, but it's not as forgiving as the "cheap, plasticky" Focus.
Oh, so one other point: the Titan is huge, initially, but you get used to it really quickly. I laugh when people talk about how 4.7 is too big, and that it might as well be a tablet, that phones will start shrinking again. (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44717/nokia-big-screens-are-stupid) I'm not so sure...this phone, because of its thinness, is easy to get used to. It now feels "normal" size and my wife's Focus feels "dinky." ...and the Focus screen wasn't all that tiny either!
Here are some of my early gripes with the Titan, but it's pretty much outdated at this point, because I really have very few gripes anymore about this awesome phone. And at a penny (same price I paid on Black Friday), you canNOT go wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372056
Thanks. If the price is right I’ll probably pick one up.
One other thing I’m curious about. I started with WP7 using the original dft rom on an HD2 and I thought the screen response and especially the keyboard were outstanding. I’m less impressed with the responsiveness of the Focus. I’ve seen mixed comments about the Titan, anyone have current thoughts about this?
Will_nonya said:
Thanks. If the price is right I’ll probably pick one up.
One other thing I’m curious about. I started with WP7 using the original dft rom on an HD2 and I thought the screen response and especially the keyboard were outstanding. I’m less impressed with the responsiveness of the Focus. I’ve seen mixed comments about the Titan, anyone have current thoughts about this?
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I think the screen of the Titan is a bit unresponsive/slow compared to my iPhone in terms of tracking the finger. iPhone tracks it 100% correct and fast while the Titan seem to either struggle or have a speed limit on the screen.
Will_nonya said:
Thanks. If the price is right I’ll probably pick one up.
One other thing I’m curious about. I started with WP7 using the original dft rom on an HD2 and I thought the screen response and especially the keyboard were outstanding. I’m less impressed with the responsiveness of the Focus. I’ve seen mixed comments about the Titan, anyone have current thoughts about this?
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Is a penny the right price? ATT has it on sale again. I had a Focus. I moved to the Titan. I had all the issues mentioned,lol. I did all the fixes mentioned in this forum and I'm tickled pink. I gave my Focus to my girlfriend. Had my Titan since December. Yesterday my girlfriend wanted my to add something to her phone. When I grabbed the Focus, I couldn't believe how tiny it looked. I had trouble typing on the keyboard because the letters looked so small. Titan has ruined me! I can't get a smaller phone,lol.
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I think the screen of the Titan is a bit unresponsive/slow compared to my iPhone in terms of tracking the finger. iPhone tracks it 100% correct and fast while the Titan seem to either struggle or have a speed limit on the screen.
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ArtieQ, my experience with the iphone obviously differs from yours but ill take the point as "it could be better"
I went and played with a Titan today and i was pretty impressed with it until i changed it to the same green theme in had on the Focus. The colors were completely different. Ive always thought that the Focus was a bit much but in a direct comparison the Titan seems to go to the opposite extreme.
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I went from the Arrive to the Titan. I haven't looked back. I'm 5'10" and comfort isn't an issue. I don't even notice the phone in my pocket (I never use a case except at work). I have had zero issues that most people express except for the occasional keyboard problem (minor issue compared to the text limit of the Arrive). Build quality is right on par from what I expect from HTC. No plastic feeling here. I agree with bennyj71, I'm amazed how tiny the wife's 4.3" phone seems after using this phone the last 4 months.
Thats cause the focus uses a super amoled screen colors tend to be better QUOTE=Will_nonya;23348196]ArtieQ, my experience with the iphone obviously differs from yours but ill take the point as "it could be better"
thats because the focus uses a super amoled screen colors tends to be more vibrant
I went and played with a Titan today and i was pretty impressed with it until i changed it to the same green theme in had on the Focus. The colors were completely different. Ive always thought that the Focus was a bit much but in a direct comparison the Titan seems to go to the opposite extreme.
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The only issues I ever had with my Titan are the WP7.5 ones with disappearing keyboard etc that the latest update has gotten rid of.
The handset feels great to hold and use and fits easier in your pocket than you might think, forget about any docking stations except the specific one though! I like the battery cover being one whole side of the phone too, makes it seem more solid.
The camera is really really good, useful having the front facing one too and to help with photos, the screen quality is miles better than my old phone the HTC HD7.
Literally the only thing I can think of that annoys me is that there aren't more theme colours!!!
In all it's a great phone to have and people although mocking, will actually be jealous of the screen size!
I love HTC hardware. It just feels so much better in your hand than Samsung was certainly no exception. It also seemed to perform very well.
The only thing that gives me pause is the washed out look of the screen. Some colors that are briaght and vibrant, and arguably over saturated, on the Focus were washed out and not even close to the same shade.
The only other consideration is how the Lumina 900 will compare. Assuming that it is well build I'm honestly more interested in the Nokia software but i have a long history with HTC.
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I love HTC hardware. It just feels so much better in your hand than Samsung was certainly no exception. It also seemed to perform very well.
The only thing that gives me pause is the washed out look of the screen. Some colors that are briaght and vibrant, and arguably over saturated, on the Focus were washed out and not even close to the same shade.
The only other consideration is how the Lumina 900 will compare. Assuming that it is well build I'm honestly more interested in the Nokia software but i have a long history with HTC.
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Can't disagree with the build quality, but I do disagree about the screen. Nothing about it is washed out to me, and I also came from the Focus. I also have heard that the Focus S is even MORE saturated, and I've definitely come to prefer the Titans more realistic colors. More under "screen colors" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372056
Go and get the Titan. you won't be disappointed.
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Had HTC phones for the past 4years now, Loved the Diamond and HD2, Hated the Plastic HD7 and drooled over the Titan when I first got it, Got a Lumia 800 the other day which was very cheap so gave it a go, Totally sold on it now, Screen so much better and the colours really vivid, Curved screen is a nice touch and the Nokia apps a real treat, Have ordered a Free Lumia 900 with a new contract so just gotta wait for that now, Think I can live with the slightly smaller screem on the 900, So impressed with the build quality overall of the Nokias, Think I will keep the Titan for now just in case the 900 turns out to be too good to be true but judging from the 800 I have high hopes, Time will tell
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Had HTC phones for the past 4years now, Loved the Diamond and HD2, Hated the Plastic HD7 and drooled over the Titan when I first got it, Got a Lumia 800 the other day which was very cheap so gave it a go, Totally sold on it now, Screen so much better and the colours really vivid, Curved screen is a nice touch and the Nokia apps a real treat, Have ordered a Free Lumia 900 with a new contract so just gotta wait for that now, Think I can live with the slightly smaller screem on the 900, So impressed with the build quality overall of the Nokias, Think I will keep the Titan for now just in case the 900 turns out to be too good to be true but judging from the 800 I have high hopes, Time will tell
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Got Lumia 800 myself this morning and tell you what - it's a beauty!
I loved Windows Phone from day 1, but after using Lumia 800 (no FFC, small phone, no added camera features) - I haven't touched my Titan since!
The colours make it all so pleasant I think. It just feels so beautiful and good.
I have made up my mind. Never, ever, ever, ever buy S-LCD or SS-LCD or SSS-LCD over an Ameloid or S-Ameloid especially the one with ClearBlack technology! It's well worth giving away big screen, front facing camera and panorama shots!
Oh, wait did I say big screen? Of course I din't mean that. The only reason I am using my Titan back from tomorrow is because I LOVE it's enormous screen size. If I can, I will get Lumia 900 for sure.
The "Lumias" are gorgeous girls in the town. However "Lumia 900" has long legs and a dimple on her cheek (FFC I mean!)
Ha ha that's a great way of putting it, Am glad am not the only one falling for the lumias charms
I will never buy any tech (tablet or phone) with amoled screens due to potential burn in over time. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 has burn in issues and i saw a lumia 800 with screen burn too with my own eyes. Super LCD is just as good (without being over saturated).
I love my Titan and can never go back to 4.3 again.
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Ha ha that's a great way of putting it, Am glad am not the only one falling for the lumias charms
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It's design is gorgeous! If it was the Meego OS, I wouldn't have been so attracted I guess. But WP + the design has made me feel like cheating on the titan!
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I will never buy any tech (tablet or phone) with amoled screens due to potential burn in over time. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 has burn in issues and i saw a lumia 800 with screen burn too with my own eyes. Super LCD is just as good (without being over saturated).
I love my Titan and can never go back to 4.3 again.
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I agree with the screen size here, but am not sure about the burns. I am rationalising it this way - The phones I use only last or should last for a year or two at max. If it burns after that period, it's ok. But the looks and colours are SO stunning with clearblack technology on Lumias!
Yeah am not that worried about the burn in either as I change my phones more often than necessary lol, Have serious issues I know Get bored very quickly but am happy knowing WP7 will get even better with time as other OS have.
I've had my One X on AT&T for a couple of weeks now, I quickly fell in love with the design and build quality of the hardware. The screen is simply the best I've ever seen. The camera and camera app are great. I'm coming from a Captivate so of course everything is an improvement. But there are a few minor but important to me things that are really bugging me, I was wondering if S3 owners could let me know how they are. I'm trying to stay with the stock ROM this time around.
First, I was looking forward to finally having a notification LED again. But the HOX's is utter crap. It's tiny, dim, green only, and dismisses itself after a few minutes. Is the S3's easy to see in a well lit room? Can you customize the colors for different notification types?
Second, the vibration is absurd on the HOX. It's too strong and too loud and completely uncustomizable. Can you change the vibration intensity or the pattern for notifications or other things on the S3? Is it noisy when it vibrates?
Lastly, I am surprisingly disappointed in the battery life. I feel like Anandtech's review really led me astray here. It seemed manageable for the first few days but now I really feel like I have to curb my usage during the day so I won't have to immediately plug it in when I get home. I've even tried to set it up for power saving but it seems like after 12 hours off the charger with pretty moderate usage (maybe 2hrs of screen time) it is begging to be plugged in. Any thoughts on the S3 in this regard?
Thank you for any input. I'm not looking forward to having to pay the restock fee or cover the price differential (got the One X for $120) but I'll do it if it will alleviate these little things that constantly bug me through the day.
My thoughts...
Short answer. It depends.
I had the One S for two months before switching to the T-Mo version of the S3. Though the One S and One X aren't identical, they're pretty similar in terms of hardware, UI, and features.
Modding
Though I can't speak for the One X, if you frequent XDA and love to tinker with your phone, I think the S3 is going to offer more opportunity. Its the same exact phone with all carriers so there will probably be more development. There weren't a ton of One S developers and the phone had already been out for some time. That being said, if you're less inclined to tinker, I really feel that Sense 4.0 has come a long way. Its clean and well put together (especially compared to the Touchwiz UI on the S3). Touchwiz has a thousand features you'll never use and misses features you'd always use (like being able to change a song on the lockscreen as opposed to having to unlock the phone).
Storage
Lack of expandable storage sucks. Even with Dropbox, if you're on a 6 hour flight (which I am frequently), streaming doesn't help. If you're one that can live without your whole media collection with you and don't mind streaming, I'd give the edge to the One X, but if you (like me) fly alot, the S3.
Battery
My brother in law has the One X, and I had the One S. Perhaps it was the smaller screen, but I never had an issue with the battery. It would last 18 hours commonly and seldom needed a recharge. I doubt the S3 battery is much better, but the fact you can carry around other batteries helps. Though.. IMHO, Duracell and others make a USB charger that you can plug in to your phone for a charge. Is it better to carry one of those around or a spare battery? Either way it sucks because you have to carry something. I'd say this is a draw.
Audio
I'm sure many will flame me and disagree, but the audio absolutely sucks on the S3 (at least the US version since we were robbed of the Wolfson chip). Bland, bass-less. Its like listening to music with a tin can on your head. I think this will get better over time as devs make modifications (like Voodoo sound), but for now, its crap. People around here seem to dislike Beats audio, but I gotta say.. It sounds significantly better than the stock S3. Hopefully that gets fixed, maybe it never will.
Camera
This is a tough one. I loved the camera on the One S (and presumably, One X). PM me and I'll send you some shots I took with it. You would have a hard time believing its not a DSLR. The S3 camera is good... It has some nice features. I'm not sure it holds up as well in low-light and I'm not sure it captures color as well as the One series. Just MHO. Both are great, but I felt with the One S the quality of picture I was getting eliminated my need to carry a second camera. I'm not sure I feel the same way about the S3. Pictures still seem like they were taken by a camera phone...
I'm not gonna lie... I've had the S3 for a little over a week. I like it. But there are still so many things I miss about the One series. I'm hoping as the dev community grows for the S3, eventually I'll be happy I made the switch.
Hey thanks for your thoughts on this. Pretty much what I was thinking... they're both great but each does some things better than the other. It's funny you mention the audio, I did think the One X sounds pretty impressive when I loaded some music on it. Hopefully I can find a demo S3 in store so I can find answers my nitpicky questions about the notification LED and vibration functions.
The LED is pretty bright, and stays on. I can easily see it from across the room.
not sure about the vibration, I rarely use it and have never experienced the One X
Battery life is surprisingly good one the S3, and as mentioned you can always get a second battery, I got a battery charger from Samsung and it came with an extra battery for $50 between those two I never run out.
I know you said you would like to stick with the stock ROM but if you are willing to load a custom ROM this one: http://goo.gl/WP6TC is giving me much better battery life than the stock one.
a coworker has the EVO 4G LTE (Sprints version of the One X) and it is pretty nice and feels a bit more solid but I like the removable battery and SD card slot on the S3 and considering Samsungs bootloaders are unlocked and they make the source code available immediately I knew there would be more development for the S3 than the One X.
both phones are awesome but the grass is always greener on the other side so I'm sure whichever one you go with you're gonna want the other, at least that's how I am.
I've been pretty happy with the S3 for the <2 weeks I've had it. now I just need Sprint to hurry up and flip the switch on LTE in LA.
Good Luck Man!
The only reason I would consider getting a One X over my S III is the screen. Not a fan of the PenTile display and its much dimmer than the One X. However, I'm keeping the S III because of a massive developer base.
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Swapped my HTC One X for the SGS3...and absolutely love my decision. Best feature of all is the eye tracking, the fact that when im reading the phone and the screen never turns off is worth it alone. Then you have better battery life, I can actually get an entire day out of a charge on this phone unlike the HOX, I get better signal here in ATL and have less drop calls, then you still have the replaceable battery and expandable memory...and finally NFC
Like I said, got rid of my HOX for the SGS3 and LOVE IT!!! Do it today, tomorrow, yesterday
PS- I personally think the screen looks so much brighter and better than the HOX
I had the evolte this blows that out of the water hands down. The evolte really should have sold for $150 not $200 this is a $200 device
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I bought the HTC One X and held onto it for 29 days, then returned it for the SGS3 (which i preordered a couple weeks before it came out).
I liked many things about the HTC One X. The screen quality was a little bit better on the HOX, but its smaller. The SGS3 uses a pentile display, which means that even at the same resolution as the HOX, you can still see the pixels, but its something that most people wont notice. The SGS3 is seems like its a little bit brighter than the HOX too, but not enough that the average phone user would ever even notice the difference.
They both have the same processor, but the SGS3 has 2GB ram vs the 1GB ram on the HOX. Now most people wont notice a difference with the RAM, but for all that multitasking, it really does help! Oh speaking of multitasking, the HOX cant do it and the SGS3 can! If you go to the task list on the HOX and click on a screenshot of a program you had open, it is what it is.. just a screenshot... The HOX literally runs the program again rather than holding it in memory, so you never get to keep your position when multitasking...
When it comes to audio, the HOX stock is definitely better with Beats Audio, and the phones speaker seems to have a little better sound as well, but it wasnt as loud as my GS3 is.. When it comes to headphones or streaming to your car stereo, or even your in home stereo, the HOX is definitely better, but for the SGS3 and even the HOX, you can download equalizers from the play store that brings the balance back to the SGS3 when compared to the HOX. Also, the device you have it connected too probably has its own equalizer or somewhat of one that helps as well.
Memory is a huge issue on the HOX, you have 16GB and nothing but 16GB. If you want or need more, too bad... SGS3 has the MicroSD slot so you can expand up to 32GB (or was it 64?). And for giggles, you could carry multiple microsd cards with you if you wanted!
Battery was ok on the HOX, and its significantly better on the SGS3, especially with bloatware removed and an active task killer (i've always had great luck with these, i dont understand how some dont see a difference?). I typically get around 20 hours with medium use of my SGS3, but my HOX would have to be plugged in by the end of the day, or by bedtime if i barely used it...
Speaking of the battery, the day i got the phone, it froze on me... Every possible combination of buttons and hooking it upto the computer in every possible way, running certain programs, adb, nothing would reboot the phone or turn it off.. Ended up waiting over 7 hours for it to die after i spent 3 hours trying to shut it off. I can not live without a removable battery!!! F U HOX! Anyway!
Overall, i think the SGS3 is a better phone. Not MUCH better, just better. The LED light is bigger, brighter, and the ear piece speaker doesnt block the it like the HOX. The battery is bettery, the removable battery and external storage is a huge plus, but the HOX's screen is barely better, has better stock audio, and Sense 4.0 is definitely better than Touchwiz, BUT!!! I dont use either... I typically install Apex or LauncherPro and use one of them. The HOX has a nicer looking lock screen, but the SGS3 lock screen features and the way it works is much nicer.. I prefer the watery stuff over the orb thing. And i like being able to say "Hi Galaxy" or whatever i choose to unlock it hehe
When it comes down to the decision, your not really caring about custom roms and things like that, so your decision should come down to the size of the phone. The SGS3 is bigger, but has a bigger screen, and with a case is even bigger. The HOX is smaller and has a smaller screen. Feel them both in your hands, and play with the screens. It wont take you long to decide which you prefer. Either way, if i were you i'd go with the SGS3 because if you decide in the future to root and install custom rom's, you'll have much less of a hassle with SGS3 than the HOX.
1: the led on th s3 is a lot stronger ive tested
2: havent compared vibrations so i am not sure
3:the battery life is a lot nicer on th GS3 so i would switch if i was you not to mention the GS3 has rremovable battery and external SD slot so battery and storage are better...
modding wise the SGS3 is known as a great phone for developers. if you ever want to not use the stock rom, there are many options for roms out and most developers havent had the sgs3's delivered yet! within weeks there should be a fix for just about any problems you encounter with the phone.
switching to the sgs3 would be a good choice as the it is better in about every criteria you mentioned. one problem is though, the super amoled pentile display is darker and a bit more saturated than the HOX unless you like that. hope i helped
Wow, tons of good info! Thanks everybody. I was leaning towards just keeping the One X, as several people have told me even if I switch, the grass is always greener on the other side. But from what people are consistently saying, battery life may be reason enough to switch. I don't like having to curb my phone usage to make it till evening without running on fumes.
I don't agree at all with the statement regarding the SGS3 screen being a bit brighter. I had an EVO 4G LTE (ONE X Clone) and returned it for a SGS3. The first thing i noticed is how much DIMMER the SGS3 screen is compared to the EVO 4G LTE. It is almost unviewable on a sunny day. The SGS3's max brightness is like 75% on the EVO 4G LTE. Also auto brightness is really bad on the phone. It defaults to a setting that is way too dim. I'm still undecided if I should return the phone or not. Unfortunately, i'm not really impressed with either phones. Both have their flaws.
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I bought the HTC One X and held onto it for 29 days, then returned it for the SGS3 (which i preordered a couple weeks before it came out).
I liked many things about the HTC One X. The screen quality was a little bit better on the HOX, but its smaller. The SGS3 uses a pentile display, which means that even at the same resolution as the HOX, you can still see the pixels, but its something that most people wont notice. The SGS3 is seems like its a little bit brighter than the HOX too, but not enough that the average phone user would ever even notice the difference.
They both have the same processor, but the SGS3 has 2GB ram vs the 1GB ram on the HOX. Now most people wont notice a difference with the RAM, but for all that multitasking, it really does help! Oh speaking of multitasking, the HOX cant do it and the SGS3 can! If you go to the task list on the HOX and click on a screenshot of a program you had open, it is what it is.. just a screenshot... The HOX literally runs the program again rather than holding it in memory, so you never get to keep your position when multitasking...
When it comes to audio, the HOX stock is definitely better with Beats Audio, and the phones speaker seems to have a little better sound as well, but it wasnt as loud as my GS3 is.. When it comes to headphones or streaming to your car stereo, or even your in home stereo, the HOX is definitely better, but for the SGS3 and even the HOX, you can download equalizers from the play store that brings the balance back to the SGS3 when compared to the HOX. Also, the device you have it connected too probably has its own equalizer or somewhat of one that helps as well.
Memory is a huge issue on the HOX, you have 16GB and nothing but 16GB. If you want or need more, too bad... SGS3 has the MicroSD slot so you can expand up to 32GB (or was it 64?). And for giggles, you could carry multiple microsd cards with you if you wanted!
Battery was ok on the HOX, and its significantly better on the SGS3, especially with bloatware removed and an active task killer (i've always had great luck with these, i dont understand how some dont see a difference?). I typically get around 20 hours with medium use of my SGS3, but my HOX would have to be plugged in by the end of the day, or by bedtime if i barely used it...
Speaking of the battery, the day i got the phone, it froze on me... Every possible combination of buttons and hooking it upto the computer in every possible way, running certain programs, adb, nothing would reboot the phone or turn it off.. Ended up waiting over 7 hours for it to die after i spent 3 hours trying to shut it off. I can not live without a removable battery!!! F U HOX! Anyway!
Overall, i think the SGS3 is a better phone. Not MUCH better, just better. The LED light is bigger, brighter, and the ear piece speaker doesnt block the it like the HOX. The battery is bettery, the removable battery and external storage is a huge plus, but the HOX's screen is barely better, has better stock audio, and Sense 4.0 is definitely better than Touchwiz, BUT!!! I dont use either... I typically install Apex or LauncherPro and use one of them. The HOX has a nicer looking lock screen, but the SGS3 lock screen features and the way it works is much nicer.. I prefer the watery stuff over the orb thing. And i like being able to say "Hi Galaxy" or whatever i choose to unlock it hehe
When it comes down to the decision, your not really caring about custom roms and things like that, so your decision should come down to the size of the phone. The SGS3 is bigger, but has a bigger screen, and with a case is even bigger. The HOX is smaller and has a smaller screen. Feel them both in your hands, and play with the screens. It wont take you long to decide which you prefer. Either way, if i were you i'd go with the SGS3 because if you decide in the future to root and install custom rom's, you'll have much less of a hassle with SGS3 than the HOX.
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I'd say go for it. I was all HTC and then they dropped the ball on quality and overall build. I made the switch to Samsung phones and won't go back.
There's a reason why Samsung's SIII was more anticipated than any HTC phone out there. It wasn't just marketing.
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I don't agree at all with the statement regarding the SGS3 screen being a bit brighter. I had an EVO 4G LTE (ONE X Clone) and returned it for a SGS3. The first thing i noticed is how much DIMMER the SGS3 screen is compared to the EVO 4G LTE. It is almost unviewable on a sunny day. The SGS3's max brightness is like 75% on the EVO 4G LTE. Also auto brightness is really bad on the phone. It defaults to a setting that is way too dim. I'm still undecided if I should return the phone or not. Unfortunately, i'm not really impressed with either phones. Both have their flaws.
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I turned up the brightness on both devices. You have to look at the same picture. The S3 is much more vibrant. It's not dimmer at all. With the black backgrounds on the E4GL, it looks flatter. Your decision is biased.
Since I don't think I saw anyone mention it. I the vibration is not too loud or too strong. You can also customize it with a few patterns. I think I there are like five or six to choose from. Also you can't customize the LED but it is plenty bright.
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Since I don't think I saw anyone mention it. I the vibration is not too loud or too strong. You can also customize it with a few patterns. I think I there are like five or six to choose from. Also you can't customize the LED but it is plenty bright.
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On the G S III its pretty prominent and audible. You can also create custom patterns.
There's a pp called light flow, but its currently being re-worked for the G S III, but you can change it.
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I'd say go for it. I was all HTC and then they dropped the ball on quality and overall build. I made the switch to Samsung phones and won't go back.
There's a reason why Samsung's SIII was more anticipated than any HTC phone out there. It wasn't just marketing.
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I turned up the brightness on both devices. You have to look at the same picture. The S3 is much more vibrant. It's not dimmer at all. With the black backgrounds on the E4GL, it looks flatter. Your decision is biased.
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WRONG. It is MUCH dimmer.
Turn the screen to white on both in a store and compare. You will be sad.
AMOLED has severe flaws. One is it's just plain dim especially on whites.
Also PenTile sucks. It's not too bad with such a high resolution but it's still noticeable to me even at arms' length.
The S III screen is sh!t even compared to an old Droid. Everything else about it is awesome. Except Wifi dropping which is also a pretty big deal but other than that it's great.
But the screen is important to me. I'm having serious thoughts about keeping my VZ S III. I just ordered it mainly because of the unlimited data going away and S III being "the phone" of 2012. I'm so disappointed on the crap screen.
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WRONG. It is MUCH dimmer.
Turn the screen to white on both in a store and compare. You will be sad.
AMOLED has severe flaws. One is it's just plain dim especially on whites.
Also PenTile sucks. It's not too bad with such a high resolution but it's still noticeable to me even at arms' length.
The S III screen is sh!t even compared to an old Droid. Everything else about it is awesome. Except Wifi dropping which is also a pretty big deal but other than that it's great.
But the screen is important to me. I'm having serious thoughts about keeping my VZ S III. I just ordered it mainly because of the unlimited data going away and S III being "the phone" of 2012. I'm so disappointed on the crap screen.
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Your crazy dude. I LOVE the screen in the s3. I took my evo lte back. I much prefer the screen on the s3
I had the [email protected] one x for 3 weeks and brought it back for the S III. Reason: swappable battery, sd card and 4.1 upgrade this fall.
Yes, the one x has a better screen for outside, and the format factor is slightly better but the above won me over. Wifi and 4G speeds are the same. Quadrant score is also higher on the siii for some reason.
The ui on the siii really isn't bad considering and I don't regret my decision.
Someone mentioned the Siii having a dimmer screen. That's because the default brightness is lower than the default on the one x. Yes the one x can get brighter (not really viewable at that point) but not for what I saw. Once I made changes to equal the one x they were equal.
This from a guy who has had two HTC android phones previously.
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I had one for 3 weeks too, but i was already worrying about space when the drop box promo was killed... I was upset and left without enough storage on my HOX for what I wanted, especially music. Multitasking was pretty poor too, it reloaded most apps most of the time, even swapping between just two normal apps.
Removable storage, battery, and proper multitasking/ram for the future sold me. I wasn't thrilled with the design when the GS3 was launched, it looked bad really. I still prefer the One X's sexy body and screen, but this is much better than I expected. Easily a solid 9 to the HOX's 10.
Accessory selection will be MUCH wider for the GS3 vs the AT&T One X. Higher numbers sold, more carriers carrying it, and matching versions around the world mean big things for cases, docks, etc.
Vibration feels a lot more higher class than the One X which almost felt like something was rattling . The LED light is diffused a lot to make a big light up area as well.
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Sweet, thanks for the input on the LED and vibration. Things aren't looking so good for my One X. Still hoping to find a working demo S3 to try out before making my decision.
I had the international One X and T-Mobile One S, I like them both but the deal breaker for me was lack of sd card and the kinda poor battery life. Not to mention the LED notification light was a joke.
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Hello,
I'm looking to buy this phone. I currently have an Axon 7, but I can potentially return it if I order soon, and this phone is half the price for similar specs.
Therefore, I wish to know a few things, if anyone will oblige:
1. Can people please take some screenshots of the interface? I want to see just how cancerous the skin is. Specifically, I would like to see settings.
2. Can someone get me LxW measurements on the screen please? I thought 5.5 wouldn't be much smaller than six, but it turns out it almost fits on that screen. I love phablets!
2.5. Can somebody run some benchmarks? I'd be particularly interested in seeing The slingshot one from 3dMark.
3. How'd you say the camera is, in your subjective experience?
3.5. As presumably the folks here have followed development fairly closely.... how's it looking for Lineage/CM/Something else close-ish to stock? If video recording is the only issue, I have no problem with that.
4. Anything else I should know?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
you can find most of those info on YouTube and gsmareana.
btw why would you return your axon 7 for a max 2?
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you can find most of those info on YouTube and gsmareana.
btw why would you return your axon 7 for a max 2?
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All you ask is in youtube.
Actually, it isn't, hence why I came here. I know the rules. Look and then ask for help, my annoyance is how often I do and am dismissed out of hand by people who don't realize that several hours of googling for some obscure answers can be otherwise resolved in a few minutes f their kindly donated time with a ruler and some perspective, and that's when Google does actually have something. In this case, I'm confident to say it lacks what I'm interested in knowing in more than superficial detail.
Or at least, 4 hours into YT and written reviews and I have yet to see what I'm asking for. Please, if you're going to tell someone to just google it, make sure it actually will help, and if not, don't waste time with such an answer.
I've seen only the launcher a very quick look at the settings root, and no dropdown for notifications in that time.
As to photos, I trust the people here to be more in my camp in terms of expectations. The cam looks sharp enough.
Nobody has yet listed the screen dimension in anything but the diagonal, and I don't have a good point of reference for that. I also see fairly rampant issues w/ the fp scanner, and id be interested to know whether those have abated.
As to why I would replace an Axon 7 with it... the 7 is $513 cad. The LE Max 2 is $270 cad. 47% cheaper. It's a lot of money to leave on the table if the differences are negligible.
2 min in google:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-leeco-le-max-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yBjaMT5nXU
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/leeco-le-max-2,zte-axon-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWf8LC7Z210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnXV6g87mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP9eAgfZnac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L-0sMjLPE
if you want know more info about the interface there are plenty of videos on eui.. and there are plenty of benchmarking videos too.. why waste 4 hours?
if you don't like the stock launcher, install something like Nova or Pixel.
dimensions
http://m.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-8051.php
156.8 x 77.6 x 8 mm (6.17 x 3.06 x 0.31 in)
appsmarsterx said:
if you want know more info about the interface there are plenty of videos on eui.. and there are plenty of benchmarking videos too.. why waste 4 hours?
if you don't like the stock launcher, install something like Nova or Pixel.
dimensions
http://m.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-8051.php
156.8 x 77.6 x 8 mm (6.17 x 3.06 x 0.31 in)
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Of the phone, not the screen, I want the screen dimensions and I'd rather have avoided having to do algebra to get it. I checked GSMarena already. I did get some of the more obvious things like Benchmarks out of the way, along with photos, but I don't trust the interface to remain the same on a generic branding.... I wanted to see it specifically on this phone, and every review I've found, if they even address such things, only offers brief flash of the root menus.
One thing I would really like to know it's almost certain the reviews don't touch upon.... how is the hitbox for the capacitive buttons? I have a BLU Pure XL too, and those are extremely narrow, it's quite annoying.
TheLastCanadian said:
Hello,
I'm looking to buy this phone. I currently have an Axon 7, but I can potentially return it if I order soon, and this phone is half the price for similar specs.
Therefore, I wish to know a few things, if anyone will oblige:
1. Can people please take some screenshots of the interface? I want to see just how cancerous the skin is. Specifically, I would like to see settings.
2. Can someone get me LxW measurements on the screen please? I thought 5.5 wouldn't be much smaller than six, but it turns out it almost fits on that screen. I love phablets!
2.5. Can somebody run some benchmarks? I'd be particularly interested in seeing The slingshot one from 3dMark.
3. How'd you say the camera is, in your subjective experience?
3.5. As presumably the folks here have followed development fairly closely.... how's it looking for Lineage/CM/Something else close-ish to stock? If video recording is the only issue, I have no problem with that.
4. Anything else I should know?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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Of the phone, not the screen, I want the screen dimensions and I'd rather have avoided having to do algebra to get it. I checked GSMarena already. I did get some of the more obvious things like Benchmarks out of the way, along with photos, but I don't trust the interface to remain the same on a generic branding.... I wanted to see it specifically on this phone, and every review I've found, if they even address such things, only offers brief flash of the root menus.
One thing I would really like to know it's almost certain the reviews don't touch upon.... how is the hitbox for the capacitive buttons? I have a BLU Pure XL too, and those are extremely narrow, it's quite annoying.
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Standard size hitbox, warriors rogues dks should still stay behind the boss, ranged attacks should still be made from max range 30-40 yrds.
Used screen size is 126mm x 71mm. Will answer more when I can, not had it long.
Well, I bit.
The Axon 7 is nice, but if we're being realistic I mostly just use my phone for web browsing anyway. Paying $513 for that doesn't make much sense when I can get similar specs for $270. We'll see. Worst case scenario I suffer with it for a while and then just buy a flagship when my cheap ass finally learns its lesson.
TheLastCanadian said:
Well, I bit.
The Axon 7 is nice, but if we're being realistic I mostly just use my phone for web browsing anyway. Paying $513 for that doesn't make much sense when I can get similar specs for $270. We'll see. Worst case scenario I suffer with it for a while and then just buy a flagship when my cheap ass finally learns its lesson.
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I've been in your camp 1.5 years ago. Coming from Xperia, I said I want to buy a cheap one until a good flagship comes out. And so I bought the Le 1s, a 200$ phone when it just came out. I have to say that I was impressed that I can do whatever I need with it with so much ease, and it doesn't have to cost a kidney.
However, when Le Max2 came out, I ordered it immediately and handed over the 1s to my mom who is still using it without problems as we speak.
The interface is the same, I can tell you that there are no big differences, so if you will google the interface of any LeEco phone, it will be the same as on Max2 as far as I'm concerned.
The screen is a bit bigger than on the 5.5" phones and thus the footprint is taller and wider. Somehow a little difficult to sit with it in the front pocket. I remove it when driving, sitting at the table, most of the times I forget to take it out when I'm putting my shoes on and I do feel it.
Should I ask, why not go for the Pro3 when it has a bigger battery, FHD 5.5" screen, better CPU? The difference between FHD and QHD were tested with a photo taken from a mirrorless camera and it turned out it's very hard to spot the better sharpness on Max2 than on Le 1s.
I would go for the Pro3 now but my dad is yet to get used to touchscreen phones, so I'll keep it a bit more.
Considering the price/ what you get, as of now, I'd still go with LeEco anytime. The thing to keep in mind is to order it 2-3-4 months after release because the price would have dropped significantly.
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I've been in your camp 1.5 years ago. Coming from Xperia, I said I want to buy a cheap one until a good flagship comes out. And so I bought the Le 1s, a 200$ phone when it just came out. I have to say that I was impressed that I can do whatever I need with it with so much ease, and it doesn't have to cost a kidney.
However, when Le Max2 came out, I ordered it immediately and handed over the 1s to my mom who is still using it without problems as we speak.
The interface is the same, I can tell you that there are no big differences, so if you will google the interface of any LeEco phone, it will be the same as on Max2 as far as I'm concerned.
The screen is a bit bigger than on the 5.5" phones and thus the footprint is taller and wider. Somehow a little difficult to sit with it in the front pocket. I remove it when driving, sitting at the table, most of the times I forget to take it out when I'm putting my shoes on and I do feel it.
Should I ask, why not go for the Pro3 when it has a bigger battery, FHD 5.5" screen, better CPU? The difference between FHD and QHD were tested with a photo taken from a mirrorless camera and it turned out it's very hard to spot the better sharpness on Max2 than on Le 1s.
I would go for the Pro3 now but my dad is yet to get used to touchscreen phones, so I'll keep it a bit more.
Considering the price/ what you get, as of now, I'd still go with LeEco anytime. The thing to keep in mind is to order it 2-3-4 months after release because the price would have dropped significantly.
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My brother has a OP3T, and while I won't say there's anything inherently wrong with 1080, I can definitely see a difference in images on my 2K Blu Pure XL. I need a phone that has ROMs available, as I really don't trust the Chinese to design a non-garbage OS, and a major part of the allure for the Le Max 2 was the 5.7" screen. I'd have taken just shy of six if I could've gotten it, but alas, some compromises must be made.
It'd also be simple insanity to argue against a $270 price point on a phone that people say isn't inherently flawed (aka: not garbage). The axon 7 costs $513, for services/components I'm unlikely to use (I rarely put anything on phone speakers, and rooting would void their warranty anyway - plus, I take impeccable care of my devices).
Then go for it if you're into a bigger screen. 270 cad will sure be a cheap purchase but I do suggest to go for 4/64 version for few bucks more. I have 4/32 and after transferring some pictures from my camera, keeping some ROMs, apps, having my own pictures in, looks like some 4-5 GB left. I'd have to clean to use multirom Also go for the Grey version as the Rose Gold is too pinkish depending upon the light, but it's mostly pink...
To keep it short:
Pros:
- big screen
- sufficient RAM and a very good CPU
- easy to tinker with
- USB C
- Dual SIM
- cheap
- practically unbrickable
Cons:
- somehow twistable up to some extent, but nothing major; you can bend it back with your own hands, and had never been an issue
- quite large for the pocket
- camera could've been better
This is my opinion about the Max2. I would buy it again if you'd ask me
valy_cta said:
Then go for it if you're into a bigger screen. 270 cad will sure be a cheap purchase but I do suggest to go for 4/64 version for few bucks more. I have 4/32 and after transferring some pictures from my camera, keeping some ROMs, apps, having my own pictures in, looks like some 4-5 GB left. I'd have to clean to use multirom Also go for the Grey version as the Rose Gold is too pinkish depending upon the light, but it's mostly pink...
To keep it short:
Pros:
- big screen
- sufficient RAM and a very good CPU
- easy to tinker with
- USB C
- Dual SIM
- cheap
- practically unbrickable
Cons:
- somehow twistable up to some extent, but nothing major; you can bend it back with your own hands, and had never been an issue
- quite large for the pocket
- camera could've been better
This is my opinion about the Max2. I would buy it again if you'd ask me
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Do you know if they make this in a gold (yellow) colour?
I cancelled my order because while the images and colour description said "Golden", their chat reps insisted it would be Rose Gold, which doesn't do it for me.
They do have Gold (as they call it Force Gold) which is like normal yellow version. The other Gold is Rose Gold.
Do search for "Force Gold" color.