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Hi everyone. For those of you who have an X10a, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
Bin4ry and MarylandCookie have recommended against it, in favour of waiting for an X10a specific 2.1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823115. However, I know we're all impatient and want to get new FW ASAP. We also know that in 1.6 ROMs it was not an issue to have an X10a flashed with X10i FW, and in the end, it didn't seem to affect anything, despite the different basebands.
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread open for anyone to warn others if it brought disastrous results.
So, let's have it: anyone planning on flashing immediately with 2.1 Nordic?
Just want to add my stuff here
You MAY get Baseband issues. So the firmware and everything else should run well, but depends on the carrier you have you can get problems with 3G.
But i personally think that you will be able to flash back to 1.6 everytime using flashtool again, but that is not 100%. Maybe you have to wait for original X10A 2.1 to correct baseband.
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Bin4ry
No point screwing up your phone not having SEUS support. Just debrand using the latest LAM firmware and wait till the official 2.1 is out.
SE LAM stated last week that they were still on target for a late Oct launch so it wouldn't surprise me if it gets released on Monday.
I am waiting....what is an extra day or two anyways...
Well you should be able to extract the baseband from the LAM f/w and then use the Generic Global
Or just wait for Rogers lol and have a seperate thread for the wait on that!!
No point in taking the risk, chances are that someone will try it right away and post the results within 10 minutes of the update anyways, so I'm going to just sit back and let someone elses phone be the lab rat haha.
adrianoftyriel said:
Hi everyone. For those of you who have an X10i, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
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Me.
adrianoftyriel said:
Bin4ry and MarylandCookie have recommended against it, in favour of waiting for an X10a specific 2.1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823115.
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Why would X10i users wait for the X10a. Can you quote exactly what it is they "warn against"?
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We also know that in 1.6 ROMs it was not an issue to have an X10a flashed with X10i FW, and in the end, it didn't seem to affect anything, despite the different basebands.
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And not being able to update with SEUS.
adrianoftyriel said:
So, let's have it: anyone planning on flashing immediately with 2.1 Nordic?
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I'm just going to wait for the UK Generic.
adrianoftyriel said:
Hi everyone. For those of you who have an X10i, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
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What you mean to ask is
For those of you who have an X10a, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
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The potential problems are with X10a phones running an X10i rom but you already know that since the title of the thread is phrased correctly. Just want to avoid further confusion there...
XperiaX10iUser said:
Me.
Why would X10i users wait for the X10a. Can you quote exactly what it is they "warn against"?
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He meant x10a users waiting for x10a firmware. Seems to have been a misunderstanding here. This point was referring to x10a users flashing their handsets with the Nordic x10i release of 2.1 but were advised to wait for the LAM release or their Rogers.
Hi guys can please someone let me know whats going on? My question is why u dont advise flashing an x10a with x10i? My phone was originaly the stock rogers one and was x10a but to debrand it i used 026 x10i rom a few months ago and now its 026 x10i global generic. So can i flash this 2.1 rom?
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In a nutshell we had x10a baseband for 1.6 but for 2.1 we dont.
You could try flashing it without the x10i 2.1 baseband but we dont know how that will go down and how that will affect functionality of 3g, radios, mediascape etc so we advised against it. At your own peril .... lol
Nankov said:
My question is why u dont advise flashing an x10a with x10i? My phone was originaly the stock rogers one and was x10a but to debrand it i used 026 x10i rom a few months ago and now its 026 x10i global generic. So can i flash this 2.1 rom?
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There are files on those guides to change back to X10a, and it's my understanding that if you've flashed a to i or vice versa you can't use SEUS to update.
MarylandCookie said:
In a nutshell we had x10a baseband for 1.6 but for 2.1 we dont.
You could try flashing it without the x10i 2.1 baseband but we dont know how that will go down and how that will affect functionality of 3g, radios, mediascape etc so we advised against it. At your own peril .... lol
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And is there a big possibility to brick the phone completely without a chance to go back?
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Why would X10i users wait for the X10a. Can you quote exactly what it is they "warn against"?
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My bad. The first X10i should be an X10a. Edited.
As for assurances that it can be reversed... I'm confident that even if it doesn't work, someone here with figure out a way to reflash X10a firmware... but the bottom line is that it is unlikely that it will be irreversible, but we cannot know until someone tries.
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man ive been reading this for days on end, and im confused as hell.
i have a X10a, i flashed generic global, now it shows up as X10i, does that mean its stuffed?
i run SEUS and it still says "your phone has the latest software" ect ect.
can someone PLEASE tell me if my phones bummed or not? do i flash back to X10a now or something?
aussiesausage said:
man ive been reading this for days on end, and im confused as hell.
i have a X10a, i flashed generic global, now it shows up as X10i, does that mean its stuffed?
i run SEUS and it still says "your phone has the latest software" ect ect.
can someone PLEASE tell me if my phones bummed or not? do i flash back to X10a now or something?
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if you dont know what your doing, maybe you should do your research first?
I'm glad noobs are here for hardware testing
robbyf66 said:
if you dont know what your doing, maybe you should do your research first?
I'm glad noobs are here for hardware testing
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i know what im doing in regards to flashing it, but i didnt know flashing X10i **** on X10a would **** the phone, i took that section in the stickie that i can flash back to X10a
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robbyf66 said:
if you dont know what your doing, maybe you should do your research first?
I'm glad noobs are here for hardware testing
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Robby don't be mean
(ofcourse they are for that but they aren't supposed to know)
Anyway, I think you're fine mate, as long as you flash back an X10a firmware. People say that SEUS doesn't work if you 'cross-flash' but maybe you can just wait till Sunday evening and see if u don't get any update, and then flash back
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Robby don't be mean
(ofcourse they are for that but they aren't supposed to know)
Anyway, I think you're fine mate, as long as you flash back an X10a firmware. People say that SEUS doesn't work if you 'cross-flash' but maybe you can just wait till Sunday evening and see if u don't get any update, and then flash back
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theres no 026 in X10a in the stickie either.
any idea when sunday evening over there is here in australia? im guessing monday morning or something?
i will have to flash to nordic ROM
aussiesausage said:
theres no 026 in X10a in the stickie either.
any idea when sunday evening over there is here in australia? im guessing monday morning or something?
i will have to flash to nordic ROM
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IMO, I think we are perfectly fine with the x10i 2.1 version coming out (if we can flash it)
There is a possibility for it to go screwy but I think we proved it won't by using previous x10i roms on x10a. I honestly doubt that they would have changed this, if they were this concerned about it then 2.2 would be out.
I hope my intuitions are correct I'll probably try it first day (just not the first person )
Android 2.1 has been released for Rogers in Canada
It is only available through PC Companion and not OTA.
Cheers, Brett
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Android 2.1 has been released for Rogers in Canada
It is only available through PC Companion and not OTA.
Cheers, Brett
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I just checked through PC Companion and it's still telling me that my phone has the latest software. I checked OTA as well with the same result. I'm going to check using SEUS and see if what that tells me.
Where in Canada are you? I'm in Edmonton and nothing yet for me.
Ya same here nothing im in ottawa
Just checked using SEUS and still nothing.
I saw on the Android forum that a couple people in Ottawa got the notification but it doesn't seem to be consistent as other people in the thread said that they weren't getting despite them being from Ottawa as well.
I'm curious if anyone has found a way for those of us with an x10a running x10i firmware to easily trick SEUS into updating for the x10a. I'm currently running the Nordic 2.1 and would love witch to Rogers 2.1 once it's released....anyone have any ideas?
I do recall something about the updates being "staggered" to minimize the load on the servers.
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I'm curious if anyone has found a way for those of us with an x10a running x10i firmware to easily trick SEUS into updating for the x10a. I'm currently running the Nordic 2.1 and would love witch to Rogers 2.1 once it's released....anyone have any ideas?
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there are several posts on how to " trick " it into taking the update so just wait a bit, someone will post the firmware with the flash tool, same one you used for nordic and you will be all set.
All of the posts I've read indicate we shouldn't mix x10i and x10a codes as SEUS would either not work or ignore the phone. Unless I missed something?
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All of the posts I've read indicate we shouldn't mix x10i and x10a codes as SEUS would either not work or ignore the phone. Unless I missed something?
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If I understand the posts correctly they are much like the Nokia product or region codes.. with said codes it will tell the server where you are located. So its like a address of sorts.. the server checks the phones and says Oh Hello! You are in Canada here ya go.. or Hallo! Sie sind in Deutschland .. as I said someone will surely post a how to guide. if you mix the codes you will have a phone with firmware from another country well that is my take on it.
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Android 2.1 has been released for Rogers in Canada
It is only available through PC Companion and not OTA.
Cheers, Brett
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Then do us a favor and update the FW from your PC companion/SEUS folder.
somebody will decrypt it.
I just talked to a Rogers technical support representative and was told that the update has been released, but Sony, as usual, did not prepare for the immense traffic and the link to the download is up and down. I was told that we should be able to update later today, but that the only way to check for the update is through PC Companion - it will NOT appear as an OTA notification on the phone.
Hope this helps!
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Then do us a favor and update the FW from your PC companion/SEUS folder.
somebody will decrypt it.
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I'm with Tux. I'll wait for some other helpful Rogers user to post the firmware, and then I'll look into flashing to that.
Haven't had any problems with my X10a running Nordic firmware (other than taking longer to get started with market downloads), so I'm not in a huge rush. It would be nice to have proper X10a firmware though.
saltorio said:
I'm with Tux. I'll wait for some other helpful Rogers user to post the firmware, and then I'll look into flashing to that.
Haven't had any problems with my X10a running Nordic firmware (other than taking longer to get started with market downloads), so I'm not in a huge rush. It would be nice to have proper X10a firmware though.
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+1 on that I just want my model to say x10a at some point soon-ish.
Changed my build. Prop and fired up pc comp, gives me a server error....
Edit; I guess I'll wait till Brett uploaded it and its usable with flashtool
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If I understand the posts correctly they are much like the Nokia product or region codes.. with said codes it will tell the server where you are located. So its like a address of sorts.. the server checks the phones and says Oh Hello! You are in Canada here ya go.. or Hallo! Sie sind in Deutschland .. as I said someone will surely post a how to guide. if you mix the codes you will have a phone with firmware from another country well that is my take on it.
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Well one of us is misunderstanding at this point. I'm not home at the moment and don't have time to link, but the thread in here somewhere states very clearly not to use an x10a CDA if you have an x10i phone as SEUS will not detect the phone. I guess I'll just wait I guess.
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Well one of us is misunderstanding at this point. I'm not home at the moment and don't have time to link, but the thread in here somewhere states very clearly not to use an x10a CDA if you have an x10i phone as SEUS will not detect the phone. I guess I'll just wait I guess.
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That was for 1.6 fw
For 2.1fw Binary (or was Jerpelea) wrote that is ok to use it as SE probably unified the basebands.
Problem is, my 2.1 is crashing about 5 times (or more) daily.
mouch99 said:
I just talked to a Rogers technical support representative and was told that the update has been released, but Sony, as usual, did not prepare for the immense traffic and the link to the download is up and down. I was told that we should be able to update later today, but that the only way to check for the update is through PC Companion - it will NOT appear as an OTA notification on the phone.
Hope this helps!
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Youre gullible as hell is you believe that. Good ole Rogers.
It's gotta be related to your install. Using original global 2.1 with root in New bRunswick with absolutely no issues
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I'm curious if anyone has found a way for those of us with an x10a running x10i firmware to easily trick SEUS into updating for the x10a. I'm currently running the Nordic 2.1 and would love witch to Rogers 2.1 once it's released....anyone have any ideas?
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Using the CDA trick works. I have the global X10i firmware on my X10a and changed it's CDA to the generic Brazil one and it gave me the option to repair to the X10a 2.1 generic brazil firmware. I am assuming that the same can be done with the Rogers CDA once it fully goes live.
I didn't do it as I am happy with the global one....no issues.
Just to clarify, I actually work for a particular company that is involved in this, and we were notified that the update was to begin rolling out today.
Cheers, Brett
As the title says, how do I get 2.1 from SE after I have flashed with the X10i Global 2.1 FW? Any ideas? I apologize if this has been posted somewhere else but I couldn't find it.
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As the title says, how do I get 2.1 from SE after I have flashed with the X10i Global 2.1 FW? Any ideas? I apologize if this has been posted somewhere else but I couldn't find it.
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well first off which model did you originally have x10a or x10i
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fightingroost12 said:
well first off which model did you originally have x10a or x10i
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Well the model is Originally X10i as it says in the back of the phone. Then I flashed it to X10a for FW 1.6 because I use it in Honduras, Central America. After that I did the Flash for X10i Global 2.1. So I really don't know what to do and which version I will get.
I found out in this blog that kit on the back of my phone 1232-4308 already has the update but SEUS always used to say I have the latest update.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/11/09/these-kits-have-the-update/
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Well the model is Originally X10i as it says in the back of the phone. Then I flashed it to X10a for FW 1.6 because I use it in Honduras, Central America. After that I did the Flash for X10i Global 2.1. So I really don't know what to do and which version I will get.
I found out in this blog that kit on the back of my phone 1232-4308 already has the update but SEUS always used to say I have the latest update.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/11/09/these-kits-have-the-update/
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theres a tutorial somewhere around here (i cant find it anymore) tbat shows how to change your phone to any brand you want. you just need to find the code for the region you want, then go into your settings file and change the numbers accordingly. sorry im not much help i havent done it in a while, just look around for it it shouldnt be any further than page 3 of android development. But yea once you change the right codes restart your phone twice and then plug it into seus and click reinstall and your good to go btw you will need root acess and a program like root explorer to do this
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As the title says, how do I get 2.1 from SE after I have flashed with the X10i Global 2.1 FW? Any ideas? I apologize if this has been posted somewhere else but I couldn't find it.
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See post from im_iceman
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828163&highlight=cust.prop
the xxxx-xxxx IS NOT the SI number. You need the "Customization Version" number. this can be found in the post from xperiaX10 at it is the 1st set of numbers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826875&highlight=Country+codes
Hi All,
Last night I updated my X10a to 2.1 generic verison(Had 2.1 Rogers Firmware previously). I thought I would put down the process i followed so that it may help X10a users.
1. Step 1 - I used Exploid tool from this post ,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7490733#post7490733 and downgraded the phone from 2.1 Rogers firmware to 1.6 generic LAM version. In the Exploid tool select option 1 which flashes your phone with the 1.6 Generic LAM version.
2. Step 2 - After the flashing is complete disconnect the USB and power up the phone. Now connect the USB back and start SE PC companion.
3. Step 3 - SEPC detects X10a and it says latest software update available. Just follow the instructions from there and you will get Unbranded generic LAM 2.1 firmware on your x10a.
Hope my post helps.
v2.1 Generic WORLD Firmware: http://www.multiupload.com/FK20OSO84H
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v2.1 Generic WORLD Firmware: http://www.multiupload.com/FK20OSO84H
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I can go ahead and flash using the flash tool yes?
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I can go ahead and flash using the flash tool yes?
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You need to rename files, but otherwise, yes.
e.g. amss_fs_rachael_S1-SW-LIVE-AC12-0001-S1-PARTITION -> amss_fs.sin
system_S1-SW-LIVE-AC12-0001-S1-PARTITION-WITH-SPARE -> system.sin
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v2.1 Generic WORLD Firmware: http://www.multiupload.com/FK20OSO84H
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(EDIT: SEE POST BELOW!!!) This is X10i, some X10a users didn't have much luck with it, while for others it worked well. One should know before doing that.
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This is X10i, some X10a users didn't have much luck with it, while for others it worked well. One should know before doing that.
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I don't think so. There are two Global Generic firmwares, one for X10i and one for X10a. The one above is the X10a one.
X10a CUST-GEL NAM1 1234-4820 (http://www.multiupload.com/ZGI6JWKIPG)
X10i GLOBAL-GGL GENERIC 1232-9897 (http://www.multiupload.com/9N5BJ7II13)
And of course, here's the Rogers firmware:
X10a ROG-CA NAM1 1233-6929 (http://www.multiupload.com/M048IDMI4L)
I haven't actually downloaded any of these, so I can't be sure that I have the right numbers, but I'm pretty sure they're right.
OK then, sorry, I never heard of this particular version before.
Ok I was not aware that the generic x10a firmware was available. so I posted the steps i did to get the generic one as i do not like the rogers logo on phone
Are the 2 x10a firmwares that are posted the same?
I have a question. Why do you need to downgrade it back to 1.6 first? I flashed 2.1 rogers with generic world 2.1 and it worked fine. No need for extra headache step. There is actually a person who bricked his phone while trying to downgrade lol. So I assume you can easily just flash 2.1 rogers to 2.1 LAM.
Edit: well okay, I guess topic starter wasn't really talking about flashing, my bad but it is a better, easier and faster way to upgrade imho
I actually tried what the topic starter said, but can never pass step 1. Always say wrong deviceid even though I am sure it was correct one.
Is somehow your phone working better on Generic LAM 2.1 on X10a, than Nordic or than Generic UK software?
I wanted to try Generic LAM 2.1 but I really don't know if the process worths it, going to LAM, will work better on network stability (3g/HSDPA), something else?
Thanks all for further info.
do you know the apn settings for Rogers 3G network? i updated my phone last night to 2.1 and my 3G doesnt work
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do you know the apn settings for Rogers 3G network? i updated my phone last night to 2.1 and my 3G doesnt work
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I replied to your other post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9531302&postcount=83
whats the difference between the Rogers one and the generic LAM 2.1?
Thanks
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whats the difference between the Rogers one and the generic LAM 2.1?
Thanks
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One is Rogers branded, the other is Generic.
salin235 said:
whats the difference between the Rogers one and the generic LAM 2.1?
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The Rogers firmware removes the option to switch between 2G/3.5G.
What does it say on the Service Menu?
I would like to know what it says in the hidden Service Menu, Configuration submenu (the one reached by the L-R combo on the lock screen or the Service Menu apk).
On the 1.6 for AT&T (which should be the same as rogers in this case) it says on the Configuration screen:
Working Band/s:
GSM850, GMS900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS_BS1, UMTS_BS2, UMTS_BS5, UMTS_BS6
Also if you had any issues with APN, Android Market, MM/SMS...... afterwards.
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I would like to know what it says in the hidden Service Menu, Configuration submenu (the one reached by the L-R combo on the lock screen or the Service Menu apk).
On the 1.6 for AT&T (which should be the same as rogers in this case) it says on the Configuration screen:
Working Band/s:
GSM850, GMS900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS_BS1, UMTS_BS2, UMTS_BS5, UMTS_BS6
Also if you had any issues with APN, Android Market, MM/SMS...... afterwards.
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Same bands.
No issues.
I am a user of AT&T X10a which I have debranded with X10a 2.1 world generic.
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Same bands.
No issues.
I am a user of AT&T X10a which I have debranded with X10a 2.1 world generic.
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Which world generic? There are several...
RETAIL DEMO/SONY WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTO WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTOMI WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTOMIZ WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTOMIZED BR/WORLD-1-2-5-6 (aka GEL or LAM-NAM1)
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Which world generic? There are several...
RETAIL DEMO/SONY WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTO WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTOMI WORLD-1-4-8
CUSTOMIZ WORLD-1-4-8
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The ones you mentioned are for the X10i
The X10a WORLD generic 1-2-5-6.
Follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825201
what is the difference of x10 and x10i?
can i use the tutorials and roms for x10 on x10i?
sorry for the noob question
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what is the difference of x10 and x10i?
can i use the tutorials and roms for x10 on x10i?
sorry for the noob question
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Hi there, I believe it has something to do with the area / country in which it was sold, and also the frequency bands for 3G (so in short different areas have different frequency's for phones) .
(I use a X10I rom on my X10A and there seems to be no difference for me .)
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Hi there, I believe it has something to do with the area / country in which it was sold, and also the frequency bands for 3G (so in short different areas have different frequency's for phones) .
(I use a X10I rom on my X10A and there seems to be no difference for me .)
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so can i flash x10 roms to x10i?
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so can i flash x10 roms to x10i?
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I would not recommend doing that if your phone seems to work fine, and if you are having problems with your phone you normally can use Sony pc companion to reinstall the firmware.
The only reason mine runs an X10I firmware is because my phone got bricked and the X10A firmware would not work.
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I would not recommend doing that if your phone seems to work fine, and if you are having problems with your phone you normally can use Sony pc companion to reinstall the firmware.
The only reason mine runs an X10I firmware is because my phone got bricked and the X10A firmware would not work.
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thanks for the reply..but i already tried flashing x10 roms to my friends x10i and it works like a charm
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iel0000 said:
thanks for the reply..but i already tried flashing x10 roms to my friends x10i and it works like a charm
Sent from my GT-I8552 using XDA mobile
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Hi... i have a x10i and i am looking for a rom to flash into it, but i don´t know how to do it...
i´m searching forum´s to learn...
can you tell me what rom did you install and the steps?
i´m looking for a rom that transform my 2.3.3 android into a 4, or something like that...
Thanks!
Flashing a x10i rom to my x10a phone switched the working bands from:
umts_bc1, umts_bc2, umts_bc5, umts_bc6
to
umts_bc1, umts_bc4, umts_bc8
Then in order to reconfigure the bands I flashed x10a rom, but It don't worked ¿what's wrong with my phone?