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Is there a build of Windows Mobile 6.5 that works on HTC S740?
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Is there a build of Windows Mobile 6.5 that works on HTC S740?
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so far all the releases i've seen are for ppc. am not even sure there is a smartphone (as in no touch screen) version yet. please correct me if im wrong.
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6.5? For what? The major update is irrelevant here - honeycomb buttons, finger-gianted menus and finally - sliding panels home we already have built-in for more than 6 months...
At least I have no real OS bugs in s740 noticed here and my Rose neither. Small improvements could be implemented by minor patches...
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If I remember correctly, the WM6.5 update will be available for official download on 11th of May, in 5 days from now.
And I don't think there weren't any ROM patches for Rose released. Not officially.
ombre33 said:
so far all the releases i've seen are for ppc. am not even sure there is a smartphone (as in no touch screen) version yet. please correct me if im wrong.
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It was my understanding that 6.5 does NOT add much functionality to WinMoStd, or at least enough to make it worth updating to it. Most of the 6.5 updates are geared to the touchscreen phones. Word is, that 6.5 actually adds even MORE ways that your handset could be restricted by a carrier or 'corporate' (for those whose phone is controlled via policies by their employer).
I'll stick with my 6.1, thanks
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It was my understanding that 6.5 does NOT add much functionality to WinMoStd, or at least enough to make it worth updating to it. Most of the 6.5 updates are geared to the touchscreen phones. Word is, that 6.5 actually adds even MORE ways that your handset could be restricted by a carrier or 'corporate' (for those whose phone is controlled via policies by their employer).
I'll stick with my 6.1, thanks
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WM 6.1 Aku 1.4 adds the updated IE mobile 6 thatt would be a big step up from PIE. Unfortunately Rose roms so farr have been no newer than aku 1.3.6, IIRC
Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
Moved to General as not development.
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
rete said:
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
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given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
Lets say the Dell Venue does come out.. as stated
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetrev...ell-venue-launching-in-korea-this-month/20811
We do get our DVP as notified....
Whats the chance you wonderful Android Chefs out there could cook up an 2.2 Android ROM based on teh Dell Venue, that would work on the Dell Venue Pro, and still let us use our keyboard.. (DLL off Motorola Charm or Droid Pro maybe..?)
Just thinking out loud..
Please lets not start this "i want android" crap! If you want an android phone why not just buy one in the first place?
Maybe because he prefers Android with a Keyboard?
You probably prefer WP7, but Since Dell is releasing the Venue pro with Android there's a good chance the DVP will be able to run it too...
It's still XDA, cooking up roms is the one reason why we're here
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Maybe because he prefers Android with a Keyboard?
You probably prefer WP7, but Since Dell is releasing the Venue pro with Android there's a good chance the DVP will be able to run it too...
It's still XDA, cooking up roms is the one reason why we're here
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Epic 4G, G2, Droid Pro, rumoured Shift 4G - tons of options for android keyboard devices. No need to clutter the forum with the inevitable "WP7 is crap, android is better" BS that is in practically every other forum.
Well,
I'm with you, no need to clutter, but if you're in love with the look of the DVP but need the keyboard, that's the best option you have...
Guess making a sub-forum for this questions makes best for both worlds?
with the consensus android is a nice addition but definitely not needed. I am much happier with wp7
I ask because I LOVE the DVP form factor.. and I have three HUGE issues with WP7.
Tethering.. I HAVE to have a phone that tethers. Keeping two lines (one DVP and one my Dash3G) is BS.
Storage.. Why should I keep a thumb drive around when I have a phone with 8-32GB of storage ?
Customizing some basic things. Like not having all my pictures in the picture hub, ALL my facebook contacts in my People hub.. If I have some videos or pictures of a personal nature I would like a way to hide them from being easily seen in my hub should I want to show some less personal pictures to friends, etc..
That said, I personally am not a fan of Android.. and with my time with HD7 I found that I really like WP7 the 99% of the time I am using if for a phone, or texting, etc..
Personally I am seeing a lot of what WM7 could have been in andriod when it comes to customizations and other features. Heck looke at HTC sense on 6.5.3 and HTC sense on the EVO 4G. They arent that much different, heck if WM6.5 had added more active widgets and such, to a PRODUCTION phone it may not have been given such a bad rep. Look at the 3VO and other cooked ROMS here. A LOT of them are better than iOS or any Andriod I have used, but a lot of those features were never added to a production phone.
I digress.. when it comes to andriod.. the new Netfront UI for andriod looks awesome. There are also a ton of apps that simply arent being done for WP7 yet. So.. Long story short... I like personalizing and customizing my phone. I may get over that with WP7.. I may not. Be great if I had an option to play with a Andriod ROM on my DVP, and then go back to WP7 and so forth. Even be cooler if I had the ability to dual boot. But I doubt highly with the way WP7 deals with the SD cards that would be possible.
In any case not trying to get into a WM6 vs Andriod vs WP7 which is better conversation.. they all have thier pluses and minuses. Just curious if anyone thinks it would be possible to put andriod on a DVP should the need arise.
Or even better.. anyone try putting a WM6.5.3 ROM on a WP7 yet? I havent checked..
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Or even better.. anyone try putting a WM6.5.3 ROM on a WP7 yet?
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Just get an HD2 if you want WM 6.x.
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Just get an HD2 if you want WM 6.x.
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Would that be the one that fits in my hand perfectly.. and has a slide out portrait keyboard.. and a nice vibrant screen.. ? OR the fragile huge phone with no keyboard.
I guess I could get a new tilt2.. but it doesnt have a portait keyboard and a smaller darker screen.
The whole reason for this thread.. is the DVP is a UNIQUE form factor.. and one of the most beautiful phones I have ever owned. If they made it with WM6.5.3 it would be my first choice. But since they don't make it that way.. it would be awesome to have a Energy 6.5.3 Rom for the DVP Personally thats my favorite UI to date.
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Epic 4G, G2, Droid Pro, rumoured Shift 4G - tons of options for android keyboard devices. No need to clutter the forum with the inevitable "WP7 is crap, android is better" BS that is in practically every other forum.
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Agreed.. they are both good in thier own way.
Im starting to like WP7.. its just so different.
As I mentioned, personally I like WM6.5.3 but know I am in the minority there..
I was praying and crossing my fingers the HTC Throphy (The mock up from last year and not the WP7 phone) that would come out before WP7 launched. As that looked to be my ideal phone.
I only started this thread because if the Venue and Venue Pro ar the same hardware, I wouldn't mind trying Android on my DVP (and mybe play witht he Netfront UI and other things) and possibly switching back to WP7.
Although as I mentioned.. I would gladly pay if someone could find a way to boot the Latest WM6.x Energy Rom onto my DVP.. I would be in heaven then.
Engadget Hands-on with the Dell Venue:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/dell-venue-launched-in-hong-kong-we-go-hands-on/
Id pay some good money to see android on the dell venue pro. I like windows phone 7 but the OS is still a bit young.. there's certain things I like better on android and no im not trying to cause a debate or argument.. im just sayin, if the dell venue comes out, how hard would it be to make that compatible with the dvp..I love my dvp by the way, especially the slide out keyboard
It would be great if WP7 and Android can be run on Dell Venue and DVP.
Anyone try yet? Or has anyone gotten the ROM off a Dell Venue?
bump, I'd like to see this get done, and I'd pay some good money for it too!
Bump... Just wondering if anyone has rooted the Venue and figured a way to install on the DVP yet..?
I've started a Bounty on Android on the DVP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817#post13920817
Please, contribute if you can!
its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
GAME OVER!
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its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
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I'm onto something, but it's not tested on any TG01. Trying to get hands on one, to test it, if it works, you might have a new ROM and may be a new theme to play with
No promises though!
ohh okay drupad MAY ASWEL HAVE A GO
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I'm onto something, but it's not tested on any TG01. Trying to get hands on one, to test it, if it works, you might have a new ROM and may be a new theme to play with
No promises though!
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You need a tg01? i can test it for you...
mee too... i can test
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
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You never know, maybe there will be another rom release, but its pretty much game over for TG01 since Miro had all his work stolen along with his laptop.
I have moved to android myself, still have the TG01 at the moment, but i guess i will be selling it soon enough.
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You never know, maybe there will be another rom release, but its pretty much game over for TG01 since Miro had all his work stolen along with his laptop.
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Why none of You will continue Miro work ? He said His rom was not protected and I guess He would not mind if anybody did it.
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Wow, was that a tumble weed just crossed my path?
Just dropped in to see how it's going in here, apparently it's not going anywhere any more.
I know that was a bit of a troll statement but I just can't believe how quiet it is.
Wow, it really is quiet here! Haven't been around for a while!
I still have a TG01 which i will probabley keep... and if there are any new ROMs, themes etc, i can always be a beta tester
I never use my TG01 now; the last time i swithced it on was like 3 weeks ago! I got too many phones now haha!
Will probably need to start selling some!
yoo 5 phones in home :S is driving me crazy but tg01 is allways on at me and ofc sgs2, i use tg01 as main phone and sgs2 as dvd, ubuntu, music player, on my LCD tv and bluetooth mouse
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yoo 5 phones in home :S is driving me crazy but tg01 is allways on at me and ofc sgs2, i use tg01 as main phone and sgs2 as dvd, ubuntu, music player, on my LCD tv and bluetooth mouse
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Nice! Wow, you still prefer your tg01 to sgs2????
I tend to use my desire s more than sgs2. I don't mod my sgs2..
I use my desire s as a main phone, because the battery life last me really long! i may consider selling my sgs...
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Yea, the sgs2 is to much pimped phone, not really usefull as phone, but i found him a use I have tg01 for longer time then sgs2 and i got used to it, so and i dislike android. My biggest hope is to see wp7 to tg01, but as i see, no can do sir, that's why i am selling the tg01 and buying iphone or Samsung Omnia7.
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Yea, the sgs2 is to much pimped phone, not really usefull as phone, but i found him a use I have tg01 for longer time then sgs2 and i got used to it, so and i dislike android. My biggest hope is to see wp7 to tg01, but as i see, no can do sir, that's why i am selling the tg01 and buying iphone or Samsung Omnia7.
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Yeh hahah it is definitely a lot harder to understand how to mod/flash roms on Android then tg01!
The tg01 was a great device and served me well for 12 months. It also helped me adapt to big screen phones aswell, and a real bargain when I got it!
I still do prefer wm in 1 or 2 aspects to Android though!
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Yeh hahah it is definitely a lot harder to understand how to mod/flash roms on Android then tg01!
The tg01 was a great device and served me well for 12 months. It also helped me adapt to big screen phones aswell, and a real bargain when I got it!
I still do prefer wm in 1 or 2 aspects to Android though!
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The number of apps on android is huge, but the quality of the apps for windows mobile is much more impressive, at least i think so. Android software seems very fragmented, no standards, windows mobile and most of the apps for it are easy to navigate due to the basic interface.
But i feel now for me is the time to move to android, apps are entering the market every day, and they are updated quite often, its a difficult decision to sell my TG01.
dont bother with the iphone there a waste of money and space i suppose the iphone4 aint that bad but i like windows mobile personally because theres so much to personalise and do on them its endless. also android and iphone apps are cheasy and pointless windows mobile is a clear winner. if i was you id go with a htc hd2. android, wp7 and wm6.5 are all available on the hd2. meanwhile keep a tg01 just in case a mirracle happends and we get a exelent clean rom
Miracle i wait but hope is losing slowlly the fack i still have is the wp7 next phone will definetlly have wp7 on it, i had 2 HTC HD2 but i dislike HTC soo badlly, i had for a short period a lot of HTC's first HTC HD2 i got when it got in sale and i had miserable 8-12 hours battery life time with allmost no use at all, screen is a lot worse on HD2 then on tg01 the capacitive screen doesn't mean much to me. I love phones all phones that aren't over-priced... iphone is one of them but i can get one very cheap, i need phone for music i have sgs2 as my app toy and thats more than enough if tg01 had 3,5mm jack i wouldn't sell it never!! Till he is dead or me
yeahh true. and yeahh if the tg01 had a 3.5mm headphone jack that would be quality. to be honnest theres nothing really thats caught my eye yet so im just hanging around with a tg01 with mirom 8cfc rom. just out of interest nikola what rom are you using on your tg01?
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The number of apps on android is huge, but the quality of the apps for windows mobile is much more impressive, at least i think so. Android software seems very fragmented, no standards, windows mobile and most of the apps for it are easy to navigate due to the basic interface.
But i feel now for me is the time to move to android, apps are entering the market every day, and they are updated quite often, its a difficult decision to sell my TG01.
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True. But now WM is dead there is no more personilization with new apps. I tried almost all wm main apps adwell. When I first got Android I was like wow! Things are similiar here, like HTC sense for android. . I'm always flashing latest versions etc. It's like WM. Only now I don't have to worry about optimizations (FREE RAM, ROM, BUGS ETC) , as sense is built for my desire s. With our tg01 sense roms there were always bugs with every Rom in sense. (E.g-we.never fixed the home button for touuchflo/sense 2.5)
The community also. HTC devices always have the best support here..
I don't really like non HTC android devices.. the roms don't have sensr, so flashing roms are just improvements not much visual or UI changes.
For example. Nikola, your sgs2 Rom, cm7, what real visual benifits do u have over stock? apart from adw launcher?This is why my sgs2 is on stock. The UI is more or less the same.
But on HTC sense, there is always a new version coming up very often, just like the new leaked sense 3.5 Rom.
Android is still a huge leap forward from WM / WP7 imo though
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jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
yeahh true. and yeahh if the tg01 had a 3.5mm headphone jack that would be quality. to be honnest theres nothing really thats caught my eye yet so im just hanging around with a tg01 with mirom 8cfc rom. just out of interest nikola what rom are you using on your tg01?
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The same, have tryed the fxdj lattest ROM it is good to, but i don't have money for SPB shell so i stick with sense
olyloh6696 said:
For example. Nikola, your sgs2 Rom, cm7, what real visual benifits do u have over stock? apart from adw launcher?This is why my sgs2 is on stock. The UI is more or less the same.
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Well I forgot to change signature i have been using for a while a Sensation ROM by crysis it have the touch wiz and i have Metro UI launcher as well as SPB shell 1.1.0
Hey folks,
Do you think that our lovely Titan will receive an official update?
Yes, I think even the gen1 devices are getting the apollo update (WP8)
Finalforce1111 said:
Hey folks,
Do you think that our lovely Titan will receive an official update?
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HTC Titan theoratically should be getting uptil WP8.5 or WP9 unless those version will need extra hardware to run. Microsoft has sold major phones on contract bases. Contracts in Europe and USA are 2 years. Thus, Microsoft would ideally try and not be Android. Instead it will be more like iPhone where iPhone 3G got uptil iOS 5 but runs a little choppy now after 3 updates.
Forgive me for coming into this conversation late then;
Is the plan that Windows 8 will be an update available for anyone with a Windows 7.5 device? In other words, if i go out and buy the Titan this afternoon (most likely) and 8 comes out in a months time, il be able to load 8 on to the device? Or simply that new devices will come with 8 installed?
It's my understanding that Windows 8 and WP8 will both use a different kernel. So the CE based kernel in WP7 will not be compatible. Not sure how they'd handle the transition, but it would be nice to be able to have WP8 on the Titan.
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Forgive me for coming into this conversation late then;
Is the plan that Windows 8 will be an update available for anyone with a Windows 7.5 device? In other words, if i go out and buy the Titan this afternoon (most likely) and 8 comes out in a months time, il be able to load 8 on to the device? Or simply that new devices will come with 8 installed?
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Yes, 8 will be an update, it's not going to be a new device exclusive thing. The Titan is going to get it, as was already said in this thread. And I would not be surprised if every windows phone gets it. Every single one.
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It's my understanding that Windows 8 and WP8 will both use a different kernel. So the CE based kernel in WP7 will not be compatible. Not sure how they'd handle the transition, but it would be nice to be able to have WP8 on the Titan.
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I don't think this is true. Any of it. First of all, WP7 uses CE 7 as the kernel and it still has support for WM6 (CE 6) applications. I haven't heard anything about a CE 8, and I highly doubt that they would move on to a CE 8 kernel so early in Window's Phone history. I could be wrong. But even if CE 8 is the new kernel, it will have zero impact on compatibility. It has already been stated that WP8 will run all WP7 apps (and frankly I don't think this even needed to be mentioning; to drop support two iterations in a row would be the death of the platform).
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Yes, 8 will be an update, it's not going to be a new device exclusive thing. The Titan is going to get it, as was already said in this thread. And I would not be surprised if every windows phone gets it. Every single one.
I don't think this is true. Any of it. First of all, WP7 uses CE 7 as the kernel and it still has support for WM6 (CE 6) applications. I haven't heard anything about a CE 8, and I highly doubt that they would move on to a CE 8 kernel so early in Window's Phone history. I could be wrong. But even if CE 8 is the new kernel, it will have zero impact on compatibility. It has already been stated that WP8 will run all WP7 apps (and frankly I don't think this even needed to be mentioning; to drop support two iterations in a row would be the death of the platform).
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What I meant is that I have heard WP8 will use the actual Windows 8 kernel, as in, the desktop and mobile version will use the full desktop kernel. I'm not sure how that would translate to an OTA update for us, or if that would even be possible without a tethered full wipe and reflash of the device.
EDIT: Here's where I read it... http://wmpoweruser.com/leak-confirms-windows-phone-8-will-use-the-windows-8-kernel/
You're right, they are making it the desktop kernel. I'm sure an OTA update can be done. If not, an updated ROM will be released.
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I think OTA for Windows Phone 8 will surely be rolled out. Titan being Gen 2, won't have any issues as far as all the indications go. If anything we will be flooded be amazing apps as there ought to be an influx of apps from Windows 8 devs too!
I think we hopefully will get ample of information in less than 3 weeks from now
This is a interesting topic, but if my memory not failing me, MSFT said at the start that all phones will get future updates. And while Apollo might be the first exeption or not, MSFT haven't stated any changes for future updates so I would say that until they officially says somthibg new, its business as usual. Or am I completly off? Just look at the difference between first and second gen. There was new hardware introduced but all got the update, only diff was if its no hardware for a specific function it can't simply run that...but the update brought the rest of the goodies, and even workarounds to give the best possible alternative was made.