Hi,
I've recently upgraded my wm6.5 to 6.5.5.
So far, beside that huge ugly softkey bar, I don't see much difference between 6.5 6.5.5. So could someone point out the main improvements with 6.5.5 (Don't know yet if I keept it or revert to 6.5).
Thanx
I have always preffered the former.
i like 6.5 better because of that fugly bar in 6.5.x
sthEn said:
i like 6.5 better because of that fugly bar in 6.5.x
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This my opinion right now. But if 6.5.x REALLY improves some stuff, I might get used to it
I haven't noticed any performance improvement, just functional, the menus are more finger friendly. if ttats what you are looking for.
Well, I was expecting some kind of significant improvements. I'll play a bit with 6.5.5 before I make my mind
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I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
Thanks for the info. I love DCD roms, but I'm really wondering about this new WM6.5 rom. It would be nice to hear some more comments from others about each. Thanks!
Not so much an opinion as an educated comment...
I think that you are going to find that WM6.5 (and IE8) are just plain designed for devices with more RAM than the Titan's 64MB. It's a hardware limitation that is just going to be difficult to get past. Compare it to running Vista on an older desktop box with only 512MB of RAM... it will work, and look pretty, but it will be very limited. Vista (and WM6.5) were designed around hardware that is unfortunately higher horsepower than older machines like the desktop I used as an example above (in the case of Vista) and the Titan (in the case of WM6.5) have.
It'll be fun to play with (I haven't tried it yet) but expecting it to be a reliable daily driver on the Titan is probably asking a bit much. I found the same thing with Opera 9.5... it is beautiful, and the best mobile browser I have ever seen, but the Titan just can't run it effectively (without the low memory errors).
were getting pretty close on the memory but your right the 6800 got the shaft on the ram dept.
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D
I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
and even with M2D loaded and 18.8MB free at bootup, I am still able to run
google map, sms\mms and IE plus Activesync running .. with no issues..
also runs my TomTom without any issues.. plus 6.5 runs faster as well overall..
granted as you keep loading more apps if you go to task mng, just by opening
task mng. it close some apps .. if you flip to and from your apps you'll see they
are still running .. well my experience anyways...
I use my phone just like if its a PC .. hell this post if from my phone.. the new IE is damm sweet...
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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It might be better to compare WM 6.5 to Windows 7 instead of Vista.
Running Windows Vista on an old/slow computer is a horribly bad idea. However in beta testing Windows 7 I installed it on a Celeron M laptop with only 1gb of ram and it ran like a dream (without Aero). My boot up and loading times were equal to XP. So if WM 6.5 is designed correctly, it could work just fine on our devices.
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
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What do you mean without hibernate? I guess that might be a noob question sorry. 25.6 would be even better than DCD roms. Wow.
hibernate refers to oxios hibernate which releases memory to help make your phone run faster
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
ebb said:
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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the main part of 6.5 is done .. whats left is the interface, the build number
will may go up once the interface is added however there is no memory issues
I know of .. other than the first few beta 1-3 release that has the nueKernel
(a 3rd party programs that cause memory issues .. not the 6.5 kernel !!)
that add was removed from beta-4 and no more issues ..
Also note, after the new interface is added to WM6.5 I believe it will be strip out anyways
at it will be built for VGA or higher PDA's and even if there is a QVGA version
its going to require a ton of memory anyways!! what you will be left with is
whats out now anyways!! thus DCD 6.5 may end up being on this same built!!
vickylife007 said:
WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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x2 ..
check this thead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477525
Da_G
As Anryl said, 220xx is based on RTM (21234), as such is old, and it's SEMC branch (Sony Ericsson) - incorporating their requested changes (that slider on cHome being one of them)
I think you are mistaking "RAM Cleanup" for "Not running test code used to add new features" - indeed if this is your priority you really should be using the RTM build 21234 instead of test builds
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So I start school again in a few days and I would like to build a solid ROM. I have been running at least every other kitchen from Da_G and I can't remember the best ones. I remember one rom booted with 28% memory (typical now is 34+%). If I remember right 21234 WAS a great rom, any suggestions?
I plan on using this guide to "trim the fat." I like a light ROM, no msvc or tf3d, super light.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelOEMDefaultPackages
23016 seems quite famous, but I am using 21928, but to be serious, as a daily user I hardly care about builds but about those cardinal issues which are still unsolved like battery,stability etc. Although some of chefs did well but the age which Josh, Medkid or Abu, brought to Kaiser is still missing. Dont know if this paragraph going to help you but its more like an observation of an heavy Touch Pro user.
Good Luck...
thanks
Thanks for your input. This morning I put together a clean Rom from 21932 and it runs and boots at 26% mem! Nice but the little magnifier is annoying.
I stuck with 21222 w/21510 SYS & XIP fo rits stability.
Yea I like 21222... but the later 23xxx builds are quite nice too. The 23xxx builds have a lot of new functionality like movable start menu icons and now are beginning to look VERY different with the X/Ok buttons on the bottom taskbar.
My current build is 23016 which runs pretty well. I am going to start toying around with 23025 because of all its new features. I think for stability though 21222 and 23016 are my favorites. Both are some of the fastest builds I've tested, 21222 being the best but lacking some features.
I see that there are some roms now with 6.5 on 'em. What does 6.5 have that 6.1 does? Is it worth the upgrade for me to do it?
It is all personal preference. Try one and compare. I still like 6.1 better.
When I used 6.5 the only differences were that 6.5 had:
- titanium today screen (which I don't like)
- honeycomb Start Menu (which is harder to use so again, I don't like it)
- way less free RAM
- way more memory leaks
- much less stability
- lots of other bugs
It may have improved by now but since I didn't like any of the new features brought to the table (titanium and honeycomb) anyway and got less free RAM on our already RAM-limited device, I'll just stick to 6.1.
6.5 is nice, but the biggest problem for me is memory. If you want to have a functional camera (low memory mode), it's even worse. I'm feeling its time for a hardware upgrade (especially since USCC is getting the TP2 )
i tried 6.5 a while ago.. couldnt get used to it.. so back to the rom in my sig....
The fantastic HD2 came out with Manilla 2.5 (HTC sense). Anyway for porting this over to the atom life?
I hope this is possible, even though I understand that the HD2 has a far far better processor that can handle the load compared the atom. There seem to plenty of 6.5 ROMS - any manilla 2.5 or even 2.0 ROMS?
Well, the Atom lacks good 3D support. So in the end it's not possible to have Manila 2.0/2.5 on our Atom. Next point is that the Atom has only 64MB of RAM - this is definitly too low to run manila smoothly. And it looks so that no one is even interested in porting Manila 2.5 to QVGA.
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Well, the Atom lacks good 3D support. So in the end it's not possible to have Manila 2.0/2.5 on our Atom. Next point is that the Atom has only 64MB of RAM - this is definitly too low to run manila smoothly. And it looks so that no one is even interested in porting Manila 2.5 to QVGA.
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Cheers, yeah I thought It was useless to keep my hopes up. I might end up buying the HD2, so we'll see
hi
very good and nice manila 2.5
why m2d 2.5 can't use in atom life
sory bad english
kritdw said:
The fantastic HD2 came out with Manilla 2.5 (HTC sense). Anyway for porting this over to the atom life?
I hope this is possible, even though I understand that the HD2 has a far far better processor that can handle the load compared the atom. There seem to plenty of 6.5 ROMS - any manilla 2.5 or even 2.0 ROMS?
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There is a manila 2d.cab just for atom life, cooked and tested on my atomlife for 1month now, still in good shape.
checkout the some links here at XDA, i forgot where i got it from. If you still need it, PM me [email protected]
Good luck.
I was wondering if the hermes 100 or att 8525 can handle 6.5
It works... It just can be buggy at times and 6.5 is a memory hog. Just keep on trying other cooked 6.5 roms till you find something you like. Try out CRC's 13.5 WM6.1 stable. I always go back from 6.5 to that because its super fast and very stable Cook.
Thanks, yeah cause I was using a rom of 6.5 and i noticed my battery died pretty quick and some lag.
The Hermes is going to struggle to run 6.5 properly as you will soon find it running out of memory.
Try a few but I recommend Dark Visions as he tries to get as much memory free. I find his v5 a little glitchy but he next version should be good.
If you are sticking with 6.1 then CRC's stable is good but I still prefer Pays87 6.1 lite.