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I just read the comments about the Radio ROM 1.48.00.0 and I'm not conviced I should upgrade, however I am useing 1.47.00.10 now and it sucks. I hardly get any signal. It took the hermes about 20km on the motorway to fetch a proper signal so I could call home (very irritating)
I hear some people talking about 1.43 being the best. Also some sounds that only the first ROM is generic and the rest is specific for the provider it was stripped from. Other users experience batterydrain with specific ROMs. There is no real favourite anyway
So my question is, which ROM is the best? I am in Europe most of the time so my focus will be on that functionality.
Please post your suggestions
Cheers!
For me the best is 1.43.
I installed 1.47, and I have a lot of problems with internet connection and missed calls.
Could you post please the link to the thread for the 1.48.00.00 bad comments?
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Could you post please the link to the thread for the 1.48.00.00 bad comments?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317335
Not specifically bad comments. It seems to work fine for the AT&T community, but not for others.
Big comments post
So why we don't make a bir query, a big post where people could speak they're experience with different radios, in an Standardized aproach, like:
-Phone Model:
-OS in use:
-Operator in use and actual location in the world:
-Radio Rom's used and the opinion on each of them:
What do you think??? I'm reading a lot to discover wich one to upgrade... But there are so many different opinions...
Can nobody on XDA decipher these radios and tell us exactly what's different with each? Higher frequency in one part of the band or some sort? I have no idea... almsost seems like for all we know, all the radios are exactly the same the manufacturers just rename them each time they release it with a new ROM.
im a cingular user and tried 1.48 and i know it did not work good for me .. went back to 1.47
im on tmob and i notice 1.48 doesnt perform as well as 1.43/1.46 never tried 1.47
I'm also on t-mobile and 1.47 has much better reception and battery life than 1.48.
I found 1.43 is best for AT&T in Southern California. I tried 1.48 and 1.47, but 1.48 drained battery too fast, and 1.47 only gave so so signal strength.
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I found 1.43 is best for AT&T in Southern California. I tried 1.48 and 1.47, but 1.48 drained battery too fast, and 1.47 only gave so so signal strength.
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I just upgraded to 1.48 a few days ago and had a chance to test it from where I live in Palmdale out to Ontario yesterday. I noticed the same thing too. On a full charge all night on the wall I was able to take a single 10 minute call and use the internet for about 15 minutes. By the time I was heading back home my battery was almost drained! My power settings put the phone to sleep after 1 minute on battery power and my screen backlight is set to 30% on battery power. Definitely not acceptable! I think I will give 1.43 a try.
1.43 is amazing for battery life. i will not be upgrading to 1.47/1.48
I have tried them all (Rom's and Radio's). For me in the Netherlands is probably the 1.47 the best option. In combination with Schap's Rom even the power consumption is acceptable. I travel a lot and come often in Germany and Belgium too. No problemos with my combination!
The best option for you is try them out!
Good Luck with it.
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I just upgraded to 1.48 a few days ago and had a chance to test it from where I live in Palmdale out to Ontario yesterday. I noticed the same thing too. On a full charge all night on the wall I was able to take a single 10 minute call and use the internet for about 15 minutes. By the time I was heading back home my battery was almost drained! My power settings put the phone to sleep after 1 minute on battery power and my screen backlight is set to 30% on battery power. Definitely not acceptable! I think I will give 1.43 a try.
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Your case is a bit too weird. But I have tested all 1.40/41/43/47 and 1.48
1.48 is definitely drains power much faster than other radio version and without any extra benefits.
I will suggest 1.41 and 43 (they are both good and stable) but I am now testing 1.47.
BTW, I believe it also depends on where is your location and also the network operator. If your area or your operator has weaker network, the device needs more power to get signal (by my common sense)
I got my O2 Serra last week, and was initially quite pleased with my battery life. Getting a GPS lock was a nightmare however, and so I upgraded the ROM - (PROven 1.09) and changed the radio to the 1.08.25.20 one as it had good reviews.
GPS was great, but damn did my battery life suffer. I thought I might have been in a dodgy reception area but was losing 10-12% per hour with no other usage! Switched 3G off and the power loss halved but was still too high. Tried the latest Xperia radio with the same results.
In the end I have dropped back to the stock radio 1.02.25.19 Took the phone off charge around 7 am, used the GPS for an hour and a half to get to work, have used the phone briefly and read emails (plus TOMTOM traffic data), and now six hours into the day the battery has dropped by 42% (This is all with 3G etc fully enabled). I consider this good as I am sure the GPS drains the power a lot.
My experience of thee radios seems to be at odds with most others in the radio thread, and many people do not specify country and carrier, making it hard to judge. Perhaps O2 have some specific network issues that mean that only certain radios will work well with it, and these are different to many other carriers.
Given that my experience on O2 (UK) seems rather different to the main thread and it is hard to isolate UK experiences there, I thought that anyone in UK could give a quick comment on the radio they are using, giving the radio, ROM and carrier they have.
Cheers.
Given that my experience on O2 (UK) seems rather different to the main thread and it is hard to isolate UK experiences there, I thought that anyone in UK could give a quick comment on the radio they are using, giving the radio, ROM and carrier they have.
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il agree there, could do with more detail from ppl when posting about their UK radio performance....
I see you are using one of the radios I had problems with - how are you finding it?
Am currently on the O2 UK Network and heres my finding so far
Here are the best wo Radio ROMs I've used so far
Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25
Currently using this:
Battery: Has been very very good though I don't think its been the best I've had
GSM/UTMS Radio: Has been very good I really can't tell whether this or the Polaris Radio has been the best, but I get EDGE at home where I never got this before. Also get UTMS on the Motor way much earlier than I usually get it during my travels.
GPS: Very quick cold boot, usually about 20sec for me. I've never really had the lag problem so can't comment much.
BT/WiFI: All seems good wifi doesn't disconnect as much as it usually did.
Quartz Radio 1.09.25.13
Currently using this:
Battery: Has been very very good though I think its given best battery life
GSM/UTMS Radio: Definitely one of the best if not the best.
GPS: Quick but not as quick as a lot of others no biggy 30sec from cold start!?
BT/WiFI: All seems good wifi doesn't disconnect as much as it usually did.
Don't think call quality was as good as the other radios.
Just my thoughts on what I've used.
WizP said:
Am currently on the O2 UK Network and heres my finding so far
Here are the best wo Radio ROMs I've used so far
Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25
Currently using this:
Battery: Has been very very good though I don't think its been the best I've had
GSM/UTMS Radio: Has been very good I really can't tell whether this or the Polaris Radio has been the best, but I get EDGE at home where I never got this before. Also get UTMS on the Motor way much earlier than I usually get it during my travels.
GPS: Very quick cold boot, usually about 20sec for me. I've never really had the lag problem so can't comment much.
BT/WiFI: All seems good wifi doesn't disconnect as much as it usually did.
Quartz Radio 1.09.25.13
Currently using this:
Battery: Has been very very good though I think its given best battery life
GSM/UTMS Radio: Definitely one of the best if not the best.
GPS: Quick but not as quick as a lot of others no biggy 30sec from cold start!?
BT/WiFI: All seems good wifi doesn't disconnect as much as it usually did.
Don't think call quality was as good as the other radios.
Just my thoughts on what I've used.
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Hi,
How did you upgrade to the Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25?
This is what i have at the moment:
ROM.....: PROven ROM 1.11
Radio...: 1.02.25.28
SPL.....: 1.90 OliNex
I have the xda serra but i cant seem to get a lock onto any satalites.
It worked once - but thats all.
I want to try the blackstone radio to see if it helps.
I've downloaded the BS_Radio_1.10.25.25.nbh file but i dont know what to do with it.
I tried copying the file into a another file with RaphaelWrapper.exe but i get upgrade error when i gets to 100% - i then have to load the old radio back.
1. - are you security unlocked (different to CID or SIM unlocked)
If you don't know, then you aren't.
You must be to use non Raphael radios
If you are, then
2. Use the mirror site - I think it is properly packaged there.
crazyC said:
1. - are you security unlocked (different to CID or SIM unlocked)
If you don't know, then you aren't.
You must be to use non Raphael radios
If you are, then
2. Use the mirror site - I think it is properly packaged there.
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I dont think i'm security unlocked - (havent done anything for it)
I did use the wiki site to get the radio.
How is your O2 XDA Serra - PROven 1.09 ROM, Radio 1.02.25.19 working with GPS? - does it lock onto any satalites? if it does i'll try out your settings first.
Works OK - havent had it long.
Best way for me - not always necessary tho is:
First make sure QuickGPS is fully up to date
then run Visual GPS wait for a few mionutes and see if it gets a lock
Then run TomTom
I stick the phone by the window five mins before leaving work and then hot start it in the car. Should be OK and will try again tonight.
Seriously though - you MUST be security unlocked to try Blackstone/Diamond radios etc.
Am gonna try out this mighty Blackstone radio everyone is going on about ... will report back tomorrow hopefully.
Hi all,
can i consider you´re experiences also working for me ?
i live in the Netherlands and my provider is Telfort ? O2?
GPS Lock
sallygreen100 said:
I dont think i'm security unlocked - (havent done anything for it)
I did use the wiki site to get the radio.
How is your O2 XDA Serra - PROven 1.09 ROM, Radio 1.02.25.19 working with GPS? - does it lock onto any satalites? if it does i'll try out your settings first.
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Hi,
If you are having big problems getting a GPS fix, ensure that you have disabled the AGPS function in Start/Settings/System or use Advanced Config to disable it.
It should improve things a lot for getting an intial fix.
Cheers,
Beasty
WizP said:
Am currently on the O2 UK Network and heres my finding so far
Here are the best wo Radio ROMs I've used so far
Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25
Currently using this:
Battery: Has been very very good though I don't think its been the best I've had
GSM/UTMS Radio: Has been very good I really can't tell whether this or the Polaris Radio has been the best, but I get EDGE at home where I never got this before. Also get UTMS on the Motor way much earlier than I usually get it during my travels.
GPS: Very quick cold boot, usually about 20sec for me. I've never really had the lag problem so can't comment much.
BT/WiFI: All seems good wifi doesn't disconnect as much as it usually did.
Quartz Radio 1.09.25.13
Currently using this:
Battery: Has been very very good though I think its given best battery life
GSM/UTMS Radio: Definitely one of the best if not the best.
GPS: Quick but not as quick as a lot of others no biggy 30sec from cold start!?
BT/WiFI: All seems good wifi doesn't disconnect as much as it usually did.
Don't think call quality was as good as the other radios.
Just my thoughts on what I've used.
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Hi WizP,
Great to see you over here in the Raphael forum.
I think we all suffer slightly from radio issues on the Raph..........
How does your compare with your signal on your Uni out of interest.
I have tried several radio stacks, but none as yet give me anywhere close to the signal strength and call clarity that I get from the Uni.
Cheers,
Beasty
I live in London, I am on O2 and use the 1.02.25.28. Having previously tried the .19 this one by far better with regards to signal strength and WiFi. I get one bar more than before. I have been using the GPS and it seems a little bit faster but nothing mind blowing and havent used it on a clear blue sky yet to see if this makes any difference. Will report back again and will compare this one to the blackstone over the weekend.
amygdalo said:
I live in London, I am on O2 and use the 1.02.25.28. Having previously tried the .19 this one by far better with regards to signal strength and WiFi. I get one bar more than before. I have been using the GPS and it seems a little bit faster but nothing mind blowing and havent used it on a clear blue sky yet to see if this makes any difference. Will report back again and will compare this one to the blackstone over the weekend.
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Battery life? The only real issue I have seen with any of the radios is battery life.
Tried the Blackstone radio last night - no particular issues- not sure 3g reception is as good but no other problems .
Will try the .28 radio next.
crazyC said:
Battery life? The only real issue I have seen with any of the radios is battery life.
Tried the Blackstone radio last night - no particular issues- not sure 3g reception is as good but no other problems .
Will try the .28 radio next.
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It is better than the .19.
crazyC said:
Battery life? The only real issue I have seen with any of the radios is battery life.
Tried the Blackstone radio last night - no particular issues- not sure 3g reception is as good but no other problems .
Will try the .28 radio next.
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How is the GPS on the blackstone rom?
regards,
OK when outside or in car. No great change from the .19 radio I was using.
I have no problems navigating using TomTom apart from a bit of lag, but it is manageable and I am watching the other GPS thread for a solution - I have yet to try the GPSFix cab etc.
I've been meaning to start a thread like this for a while, as I think it's more helpful to discuss radio rom performance for individual locations. I'm using an XDA Serra on O2 UK, so far not very impressed with radio performance.
I've got the stock O2 UK ROM, and I've tried radio roms 1.02.25.19 (stock), 1.02.25.28, 1.08.25.20M1, and now on 1.09.25.14 (Blackstone). My main criteria is GSM (voice) performance, which is paramount to me, and I live in a poor signal area, so where I am talking about radio performance I am specifically referring to 2g GSM1800 voice.
Compared to all my other (much older) phones - Vox, tornado, Nokia 6100, the Raphael has much lower signal strengh - permanently shows 1-2 bars less on the display, and always much lower in 'Field Test' & GSMTestMode tools. I believe that the signal strength indicator on the vox and Raphael (both WM6) operate on the same scale, but I could be wrong, that's why I also check the RSSI figures.
All of the four radio's above have been very similar in low signal performance, regularly dropping calls and hunting for signal where my other phones hold 2 bars all day long and rarely drop calls.
This leads me to the conclusion that weak radio performance is a hardware flaw of the Raphael, rather than rough software - I'm sure HTC have got the radio drivers 99.5% perfect pretty much from the off - they have afterall managed it with past devices.
I am also using a GSM repeater in my house - let me explain this a little further. Without the repeater I can get usable signal in one upstairs room in my house. The repeater has a panel antenna pointing out of this window towards the nearest base station. I then have the amplifier h/w and repeater aerial (rubber duck antenna) in roughly in the centre of the building. This works very well with all my other phones - I can make & receive voice calls anywhere inside the building with at least 2 bars of signal using my vox. The Raph struggles with calls almost everywhere in the building, other than right next to the repeater antenna (where I get 3 bars on the Raph, and 4 on the vox).
The GSM repeater gives me a good tool to assess signal strength ability of the handsets relative to each other. What I have found it that when placed right up against the repeater antenna, the Raph shows a slightly higher RSSI than the vox (although the vox appears to limit the gain more intelligently, perhaps to counter too high a signal?). As the devices are moved away from the repeater, RSSI falls off far more rapidly on the Raph than the other devices, which is part of what leads me to believe the radio hardware is the problem.
My findings so far:
Stock O2 Radio .25.19 did seem slightly worse than the others,
.25.14 seems slightly better than .28 and .20M1, but we are talking very small differences and could be just placebo effect.
.25.14 might appear to be better as it doesn't look like it's 'searching' as much, but when I come to make a call, the two bars of signal strength mysteriously vanish, viewing RSSI in fieldtest seems validate that .25.14 continues to show two bars when in fact the signal has dropped substantially.
With all radios, I seem to find that I get better signal strength with the phone horizontal rather than vertical - this is unusual as the handset antenna is usually tuned to work better vertically, because thats generally the position it's in when you put it to your ear.
I've never, ever seen a 3g signal with my Raph, and I travelled all over the country with it at Christmas. Maybe I was never in a 3g area the whole time. I don't think telcos are putting up many more 3g masts, so it looks like we will be relying on 2g coverage for the foreseeable future.
Turning off HSDPA on the Raph certainly saves battery, and it appears to help the 2g GSM signal performance as well. As I live in Cornwall, the chances of me ever getting any advantage from a 3g signal are very slim!
I've never managed to get any GPS signal at all from the built in GPS. Not with any of the above radios, or even fiddling with Advanced Config, GPS Test, GPSID settings, HTC GPS Tool. I can't even find the built in GPS device on any com port. Works fine with my external B/T GPS box. Either my GPS h/w is faulty or the O2 Rom disables it. Frustrating, as everyone else seems to get it to work to some degree at least.
1.10.25.25 will probably be the next radio I try, although from what others have said it's not a huge leap forward in GSM performance.
Has anyone compared GSM radio performance to the Diamond, Touch HD, or Rose devices? As much as I love the features of the Raph, I use my phone for my business, and the most important feature is phone performance for me, everything else is secondary. At this rate I am going to have to go back to the vox for phone, and use the raph for everything else. But that means I will have to carry 2 devices where one should cope.
Sorry for the hideosuly long post, but I've got quite a lot to say about raph radio performance.
mike-b, I don't think your post was hideously long it was very informative, so thank you from a noob ; ) Just in case you haven't tried it, go to an area you know to have lots of satellites above you (if you see what I mean), run GPS Tool to see how many sats your pro is picking up and then just sit still and wait...and wait..... It took me two weeks of messing around to get my first lock. The out of the box settings work the best for me, plus patience followed by regular downloads of Quick GPS data.
To the original poster, I run an unbranded Touch Pro on O2 pay and go, on the standard ROM. I've tried the original .19 radio and .28 and I honestly can't tell the difference between the two with regard GSM/3G/HSDPA performance, and there was certainly no improvement in the AWFUL gps. (Does the radio even affect GPS? I've read so many conficting opinions on that front, LOL)
With regard to battery life, for me the biggest problem is that I live on the edge (no pun intended) of a GSM/Edge/HSDPA area, and for me switching between them that is what seems to kill my battery.
When I had the original O2 rom, getting a lock was a problem but possible, and once I had a lock it was fine.
Definately switch off AGPS.
There is some lag on the GPS with TomTom but its is easily usable - and hopefully the guys looking into it will completely solve it soon.
I only kept the original ROM on the phone for about a day.
At the start of the day, I run QGPS (if I remember this is not in the O2 ROM), get into my car, put the phone in the holder, start the engine, wait a minute or two at most, I get a lock and off I go.
The only odd thing I had was this morning where part way through my journey the GPS froze. not TomTom, just the GPS. it was very odd. it did not lose signal, just froze. closed TT, ran QGPS, restarted TomTom and away I went all fine though.
Am now running the .28 radio and will see how that goes over the next few days as I will be out of the office.
Just for the record, I get 3G/H most of the time, but live and work in SE London and NW Kent.
Have just started VisualGPS and put my phone by the window - so lets see what happens.
EDIT - and a lock within 60 seconds.
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
One of the issues which is commonly being reported is faster draining of battery life after upgrade to wm6.1. I am infering this not only by the postings in this Forum , but many other similar forums on the net.
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
1. Upgrade from wm6.0 to wm6.1 results in faster battery drain. I understand W6.1 upgrade is must and really makes your gene fast, However I could never calibrate/compare both these OS on the battery parameter.
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
3. Suprisingly and Interestingly- I also read (across some forums) even the SIM cards have also a role to play. HTC gene with SIM card of one teleoperator had different battery drain experience when compared to SIM of the other teleoperator.
4. SD card use may also affect the battery use.
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
techmate said:
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
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I have always been flashing ROM with the SIM in the mobile...can someone confirm if we do have to remove the sim while flashing...
Sumit,ankit,Ramersonw whats your thought on this...
Flashing Correct Roms never damage sim cards. And the reason why SDCard is recommended to be removed is because in some firmware, mostly in old gene, the bootloader gets stuck when it enconters RUU connection from both cable as well as an SD Card, which as you might know can also be used to flash ROMs. this problem is not seen in New GENE (as far as i know). But sim cards have nothing to do with flashing, i can say this after 800+ flashes i have done.
Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
^I dont quiet agree with the battery thing. There is something wrong with the old gene XIP that chefs in this forum including me have got. Because, the problem doesnt exists on New Gene. I think, if we can find a WM 6 rom for old gene and then use its XIP to port 6.1 ROMs, battery problem will be solved. I am deeply investigating this issue and its got something to do with Filesystem drivers and filters, that i am sure. lets see
i think its just the Phone
hi
this is what i feel is the reason for batt life
i think it is about usage i think this is not designed for a person like me who is in sales and has heavy call in comming and outgoing i did not feel any batt problem when i was using non WM phone so may be WM os takes up a lot of batt is what i feel u see the whole of last week i was using my spare Motorola ( non WM)and the batt life was great 2 days and its an old mobile
so my feeling is this phone isnt made for heavy phone user its for light users who are at office and have the option of recharging the batt as an when they want
pls not im one of those guys who has changed my phone in every 6 months and the last one was this gene (hope i dont change again cant afford anymore )
the above is my feeling after using almost every brand of Non WM and now using WM phone
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Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
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No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
Sumit,
True something is amiss in ROM for OLD GENE. I find your V1.04 much battery friendly but a more sophisticated version V2.0 hard on battery.
Is it that newer builds may have some compatability/hardware issue with OLD Gene or some features actually not meant for OLD Gene are hard on battery life?
Remember HTC 3400 (OLD GENE) has only been launched with WM5.0 and officially no ROM upgrade has been given by them
People like you have and some great developers /contributors have kept the HTC gene live
BTW during these discussions if we are able to find some tweaks for battery issues that will be great and will really help all of us.
Sumit,
I am Agree with u. I also use my new Gene with Ur's 6.1 V2 R1, and also I am Is in sales and doing a lots of call, checking lotus Note Mail. My Battery Life is fine. It goes hole day..
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Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
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Hi buddy i am just sharing my experience here i have tried lomlom's fusion ROM in the past ....i have been using it for at least a good 3 months or so which is a manila ROM and i have not seen any decrease in battery performance and to mention i have a OLD gene...so i don't think that Manila ROM's eat the battery fast...
Re: Battery Life Vs Network
One thing you guys are missing out is battery life is directly dependent on the signal strength, the worse the strength, the more battery the device will eat up, trying always to get a good signal. When I am travelling on train, my battery wont last even 12 hours . Even without talking. So take a note of that too. And my personal experience with AirTel is that network quality is very poor, as far as Kolkata goes, where as Vodafone has the best quality, so whenever I put in my Vodafone SIM, my battery life automatically increases. Please note that even if your signal is showing 100%, it may not be actual. As most of you must have noticed, the moment you make a call or recieve a call, signal strength drops (not always though). For example in my office (With airtel), the signal strength is always 100%, but to attend a call, everyone has to run out of the office .
You have a very good point there Shaunak
i think u did not get wat i meant @Krazy
hi
what i meant is their are 8XXX and 7xxx old gene mine is a 8xxx old gene
what i meant is pls chek if this batt problem is with the users of 8XXX old gene or 7XXX old gene because im having no battery problem with any of ur Prouser roms so thought if may be we can clear it out it might help u
its not about my phone and ur phone(we are both using 8xxx) im asking could it be about 8xxx and 7xxx old gene just a suggestion on an area we can chek on
krazy_about_technology said:
No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
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@hari : Oh, i did not got what you intended. Sorry, and thanks for enlightening me
@everyone: Yeah, so far we have tried checked ONBL, SPL and GSM versions but they dont tell anything about which gene is having battery problems and which don't. I request people to try posting the serial nos also if they are having battery problem.
Registry tweaks for battery
Hi all,
I was wondering whether the various regsitry tweaks for battery power usage work. I found some of them while browsing some of the forums
As said while illustrating these tips " I owe No Responsibility for any damage"
I just found them on the forums, am using them and sharing them to you. I will share my experience and request you to use them at your own risk.
1. HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
2. HKLM\Comm\Irsir1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
3. HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
4. HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
5. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]
"DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 0
Good Luck.
These tweaks are already there in Schaps Advance Config Tool, just for enlightenment of everyone
Krazy thats great. I somewhow missed it. However I find by default these are disabled.
My experience is the tweaks work and are worth a try (enable the power management features).
Ya, by default for some strange reason, they are disabled. I'll try to find on the net if there is any reason for this. I have turned these on, and checking performance. Lets see.
BTW, .NET programmers here should check out a software called Pocket C#, its a compiler and IDE using which you can create .NET software on the phone itself, i really liked it. I made a small puzzle program using it on my phone itself
Hi All,
I would like to know what radio people have found to have the best battery and reception. I ask because I have the stock 2.07.51.22_2 from Telstra and I have been thinking about upgrading but have no idea to which radio to go to.
Help would be appreciated
Look at the stickies in this forum and then read... after you have done that then hopefully you will realise that the best radio for battery and reception is very much down to the user of phone, what network they are on, which country they are in, where in that country they are, where the celltowers for their network are in relation to where they are and where they move between. In addition how you use your phone, for what and for how long also affects it.
If you still not getting it the only person you can ask your original question to is yourself because noone else lives your life and is in the places you are at the same time as you...
rumbles said:
Hi All,
I would like to know what radio people have found to have the best battery and reception. I ask because I have the stock 2.07.51.22_2 from Telstra and I have been thinking about upgrading but have no idea to which radio to go to.
Help would be appreciated
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Dear Friend,
I tried all radio ROMs and almost all ROM's and came to the conclusion that the only one that is the best for battery XannyTech's EVOLUTION 2.0 ROM. With that ROM, I'm getting 3 days of normal usage with radio 2.10.50.08_2. Beside battery, the ROM is great.
Starfury said:
Look at the stickies in this forum and then read... after you have done that then hopefully you will realise that the best radio for battery and reception is very much down to the user of phone, what network they are on, which country they are in, where in that country they are, where the celltowers for their network are in relation to where they are and where they move between. In addition how you use your phone, for what and for how long also affects it.
If you still not getting it the only person you can ask your original question to is yourself because noone else lives your life and is in the places you are at the same time as you...
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True,
But I am not asking for people to make the decision for me. All I am asking for is people's experiences with different radio's to help me decide.
rumbles said:
True,
But I am not asking for people to make the decision for me. All I am asking for is people's experiences with different radio's to help me decide.
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and as Starfury mentioned only you can answer that question
Flashing a Radio does not take long, so just download a couple and try them out for yourself to find out which fits your needs best. But dont forget to leave the Radio on for at least 2 or 3 complete battery cycles to let it settle down before going ahead to the next. I did this for myself as well (took a while but nevertheless) and now have 4 Radio Versions in a Subfolder on my SD card so that when i move around i can quickly change to a better Radio for the certain Task i need the phone to perform.
I found 2.10.50.x.x to be the best radio for battery use, this works wonders in standby mode, it hardly ever goes down on the meter.
rilazi said:
Dear Friend,
I tried all radio ROMs and almost all ROM's and came to the conclusion that the only one that is the best for battery XannyTech's EVOLUTION 2.0 ROM. With that ROM, I'm getting 3 days of normal usage with radio 2.10.50.08_2. Beside battery, the ROM is great.
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i agree with radio 2.10.50.08_2 good reception and good battery..
I can´t second that.
I tried the 2.10 Radio too but i had no good battery. With 2.08.50_02 i had much better battery.
So you only can try some radios and find the best way. Some radios can be very good with a specific rom and be worse with another rom.
2.10.50.08_2 good reception and good battery
2.10.50.28_2 has good reception and battery life for me in Melbourne.
Cheers
Ray
Bib_x said:
I can´t second that.
I tried the 2.10 Radio too but i had no good battery. With 2.08.50_02 i had much better battery.
So you only can try some radios and find the best way. Some radios can be very good with a specific rom and be worse with another rom.
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what rom are you using?
2.09.50.29_2 works best for most roms. bangalore, India.
Bib_x said:
I can´t second that.
I tried the 2.10 Radio too but i had no good battery. With 2.08.50_02 i had much better battery.
So you only can try some radios and find the best way. Some radios can be very good with a specific rom and be worse with another rom.
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BladeKnight said:
what rom are you using?
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see his sig . .. ...
Device: HTC HD2 (Leo)
Radio: 2.08.50.08_02
ROM: WM 6.5.5 - HD2O ROM - 08.03.2010
Sys: 23544
OEM: 2.10
MANILA: 2.5.2012.1412_1
bigray said:
2.10.50.28_2 has good reception and battery life for me in Melbourne.
Cheers
Ray
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best radio for me too(reception & battery)
The entire debate on this question is subjective....the same Radio+ROM combo will not perform best for everyone "Worldwide"....
You may narrow it down Country-wise though...
thanks guys for all your responses. I have been able to chose a suitable Radio for my HD2. As I live in Australia I will be using 2.10.XX.XX radio as it seems to work best here.
Thanks again.
2.10.50.28_2 works perfectly in Canberra
How is battery life and reception on 2.12.50.02_2?
i just tried the new radio 2.14. Pretty good reception, when i go to the carpark, always no signal. However, after tried 2.14 radio, it will get at least signal for me to call out.... maybe you can try it.
2.12.50.02_2
I am using now 2.12.50.02_2 and i think it has improved the reception and the battery by aprox 20% vs the stock radio 2.05.51.05_2. In my room, with the old radio i had 1 bar of signal or none now i have al least one usual 2 and rarely 3. So for Romania i would say is pretty good so far.
HTC HD2 Radio Tests
Post 1: Little info & Download
Post 2: Windows Mobile 6.5 Radios
Post 3: Windows Phone 7 Radios
Information
The rom used while testing ALL radios is as this:
ROM: XBoxmod & YukiXDA Back To The Future v2
Updated to: 7.10.7720.68 (Beta cleanup)
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Tested without the camera trick !
Tested in the area around Nässjö, Sweden (mostly between Nässjö & Grimstorp, ~10 km).
Tested with the Swedish provider Tele2/Comviq.
Tested with 3G, Roaming, Data, GPS, Find my Phone enabled.
Downloads
The radios with the custom RUU will be uploaded to my server and I'll host the files there for you to download.
Regards
Windows Mobile 6.5 Radios
Windows Mobile 6.5 Radios
Best test results this far: 2.15.50.14
2.15.50.14
Percent span:100%-13%
Running time: ~24 hours
Batterysaver: ~4 hours
Usage: Heavy usage. Lots of texting, internet browsing and app usage.
Also a couple of hours with music and a few received calls.
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2.14.50.04
Percent span: 100%-19%
Running time: ~4 hours
Batterysaver: ~4 hours (ALL THE TIME)
Usage: Very little. A few texts and some music.
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2.12.50.02
Percent span: 100%-9%
Running time: ~6 hours
Batterysaver: ~4 hours
Usage: Medium. A few texts, no calls, some app usage and some data usage.
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2.11.50.26
Percent span: 100%-8%
Running time: ~5 hours
Batterysaver: ~5 hours
Usage: Little music, a few texts.
NOTE: All texts received were delayed, and a lot of sent texts were never delivered :O
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2.11.50.20
Percent span: 100%-8%
Running time: ~4 hours
Batterysaver: ~1 hours
Usage: Lots of music, and a lot of texting.
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Windows Phone 7 Radios
Windows Phone 7 Radios
Will start to try these soon.
They will be tested together with WinMo 6.5 radio 2.15.50.14
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will you be testing these WP radio's?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287070
kid1988 said:
will you be testing these WP radio's?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287070
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I could, but that will be a project when I'm done with the WinMo 6.5 radios
Regards
Man, excelent idea.
All this testing will lead you to nowhere. There is no perfect radios for HD2 which works best for all HD2 hardware types. There is no radio which work good in all modes 2g and 3g(GSM or UMTS)(standby battery life i mean) without camera trick.
Non of this WP radios made specificaly for HD2.
Everything was already tested and proven - best WP radio 5.51 or 5.51T.
Hardware radio 2.10, 2.12, 2.14 or 2.15 - everybody should try himself - very dependent on hardware of particular phone - several modification of hardware exist and for one 2.10 or 2.12 is the best but for some 2.15
Just only if you have absolutly nothing to do - just for fun test it.
Even testing conditions different even in same place.
zcdg said:
All this testing will lead you to nowhere. There is no perfect radios for HD2 which works best for all HD2 hardware types. There is no radio which work good in all modes 2g and 3g(GSM or UMTS)(standby battery life i mean) without camera trick.
Non of this WP radios made specificaly for HD2.
Everything was already tested and proven - best WP radio 5.51 or 5.51T.
Hardware radio 2.10, 2.12, 2.14 or 2.15 - everybody should try himself - very dependent on hardware of particular phone - several modification of hardware exist and for one 2.10 or 2.12 is the best but for some 2.15
Just only if you have absolutly nothing to do - just for fun test it.
Even testing conditions different even in same place.
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And there really was no other way to write this? You dont have to read and comment on everything you see on XDA... At least show some appreciation for the effort?
If have best (constant) battery life with the 2.15 radio. Going for 15 hours now and 51% left.
The main draining issue for me is when the cell signal is not good. The phone will drain with a good 5-8 % in half an hour. For the rest it works ok and i can pull a good 24 hours out of it (no camera trick by the way)
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And there really was no other way to write this? You dont have to read and comment on everything you see on XDA... At least show some appreciation for the effort?
If have best (constant) battery life with the 2.15 radio. Going for 15 hours now and 51% left.
The main draining issue for me is when the cell signal is not good. The phone will drain with a good 5-8 % in half an hour. For the rest it works ok and i can pull a good 24 hours out of it (no camera trick by the way)
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Sorry for posting the truth. I promise not to post anything on HD2 WP7 anymore, even promise not to view threads here anymore. I am serious.
Sorry KrewsialNL but zcdg is right...phone to phone functionlity of radios differs.
For me 2.15 is good, i got 4 to 9 mA drain
IsaacJ, is it possible for you to update the test results with 2G/3G reception? Also did you stay on the same place when the tests occurred. I think that your tests at least can give an indication for Tele2 users in Sweden.
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If some guy is atleast taking the pains to go ahead and test all the Radios manually sacrificing his time..at least thank him instead of showing your negative comments saying "it will lead us nowhere" cos so does your comments.
backlashsid said:
If some guy is atleast taking the pains to go ahead and test all the Radios manually sacrificing his time..at least thank him instead of showing your negative comments saying "it will lead us nowhere" cos so does your comments.
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Nice said,
Greetz,
masmas said:
IsaacJ, is it possible for you to update the test results with 2G/3G reception? Also did you stay on the same place when the tests occurred. I think that your tests at least can give an indication for Tele2 users in Sweden.
Sent from my HD2 using Board Express
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Hello. I will add information about this in the post
EDIT: Added info in first post
backlashsid said:
If some guy is atleast taking the pains to go ahead and test all the Radios manually sacrificing his time..at least thank him instead of showing your negative comments saying "it will lead us nowhere" cos so does your comments.
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Rataplan said:
Nice said,
Greetz,
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Thanks for your support
I knew there would be quite some ranting about this thread, even though there are BIG discussions about it in several ROM threads
And I'll begin to test the WP7 radios very soon
Regards
Very nice thread, this will come very handy, thank you.
zcdg said:
Sorry for posting the truth. I promise not to post anything on HD2 WP7 anymore, even promise not to view threads here anymore. I am serious.
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How mature of you...
khrisstyan said:
Sorry KrewsialNL but zcdg is right...phone to phone functionlity of radios differs.
For me 2.15 is good, i got 4 to 9 mA drain
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Therefore, you don't have to start slashing something if the TS clearly is using a lot of time and effort to try this out and provide his feedback. It's not like he's asking questions that are being asked a gazillion time on the forums..