Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
One of the issues which is commonly being reported is faster draining of battery life after upgrade to wm6.1. I am infering this not only by the postings in this Forum , but many other similar forums on the net.
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
1. Upgrade from wm6.0 to wm6.1 results in faster battery drain. I understand W6.1 upgrade is must and really makes your gene fast, However I could never calibrate/compare both these OS on the battery parameter.
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
3. Suprisingly and Interestingly- I also read (across some forums) even the SIM cards have also a role to play. HTC gene with SIM card of one teleoperator had different battery drain experience when compared to SIM of the other teleoperator.
4. SD card use may also affect the battery use.
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
techmate said:
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
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I have always been flashing ROM with the SIM in the mobile...can someone confirm if we do have to remove the sim while flashing...
Sumit,ankit,Ramersonw whats your thought on this...
Flashing Correct Roms never damage sim cards. And the reason why SDCard is recommended to be removed is because in some firmware, mostly in old gene, the bootloader gets stuck when it enconters RUU connection from both cable as well as an SD Card, which as you might know can also be used to flash ROMs. this problem is not seen in New GENE (as far as i know). But sim cards have nothing to do with flashing, i can say this after 800+ flashes i have done.
Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
^I dont quiet agree with the battery thing. There is something wrong with the old gene XIP that chefs in this forum including me have got. Because, the problem doesnt exists on New Gene. I think, if we can find a WM 6 rom for old gene and then use its XIP to port 6.1 ROMs, battery problem will be solved. I am deeply investigating this issue and its got something to do with Filesystem drivers and filters, that i am sure. lets see
i think its just the Phone
hi
this is what i feel is the reason for batt life
i think it is about usage i think this is not designed for a person like me who is in sales and has heavy call in comming and outgoing i did not feel any batt problem when i was using non WM phone so may be WM os takes up a lot of batt is what i feel u see the whole of last week i was using my spare Motorola ( non WM)and the batt life was great 2 days and its an old mobile
so my feeling is this phone isnt made for heavy phone user its for light users who are at office and have the option of recharging the batt as an when they want
pls not im one of those guys who has changed my phone in every 6 months and the last one was this gene (hope i dont change again cant afford anymore )
the above is my feeling after using almost every brand of Non WM and now using WM phone
techmate said:
Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
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No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
Sumit,
True something is amiss in ROM for OLD GENE. I find your V1.04 much battery friendly but a more sophisticated version V2.0 hard on battery.
Is it that newer builds may have some compatability/hardware issue with OLD Gene or some features actually not meant for OLD Gene are hard on battery life?
Remember HTC 3400 (OLD GENE) has only been launched with WM5.0 and officially no ROM upgrade has been given by them
People like you have and some great developers /contributors have kept the HTC gene live
BTW during these discussions if we are able to find some tweaks for battery issues that will be great and will really help all of us.
Sumit,
I am Agree with u. I also use my new Gene with Ur's 6.1 V2 R1, and also I am Is in sales and doing a lots of call, checking lotus Note Mail. My Battery Life is fine. It goes hole day..
techmate said:
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
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Hi buddy i am just sharing my experience here i have tried lomlom's fusion ROM in the past ....i have been using it for at least a good 3 months or so which is a manila ROM and i have not seen any decrease in battery performance and to mention i have a OLD gene...so i don't think that Manila ROM's eat the battery fast...
Re: Battery Life Vs Network
One thing you guys are missing out is battery life is directly dependent on the signal strength, the worse the strength, the more battery the device will eat up, trying always to get a good signal. When I am travelling on train, my battery wont last even 12 hours . Even without talking. So take a note of that too. And my personal experience with AirTel is that network quality is very poor, as far as Kolkata goes, where as Vodafone has the best quality, so whenever I put in my Vodafone SIM, my battery life automatically increases. Please note that even if your signal is showing 100%, it may not be actual. As most of you must have noticed, the moment you make a call or recieve a call, signal strength drops (not always though). For example in my office (With airtel), the signal strength is always 100%, but to attend a call, everyone has to run out of the office .
You have a very good point there Shaunak
i think u did not get wat i meant @Krazy
hi
what i meant is their are 8XXX and 7xxx old gene mine is a 8xxx old gene
what i meant is pls chek if this batt problem is with the users of 8XXX old gene or 7XXX old gene because im having no battery problem with any of ur Prouser roms so thought if may be we can clear it out it might help u
its not about my phone and ur phone(we are both using 8xxx) im asking could it be about 8xxx and 7xxx old gene just a suggestion on an area we can chek on
krazy_about_technology said:
No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
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@hari : Oh, i did not got what you intended. Sorry, and thanks for enlightening me
@everyone: Yeah, so far we have tried checked ONBL, SPL and GSM versions but they dont tell anything about which gene is having battery problems and which don't. I request people to try posting the serial nos also if they are having battery problem.
Registry tweaks for battery
Hi all,
I was wondering whether the various regsitry tweaks for battery power usage work. I found some of them while browsing some of the forums
As said while illustrating these tips " I owe No Responsibility for any damage"
I just found them on the forums, am using them and sharing them to you. I will share my experience and request you to use them at your own risk.
1. HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
2. HKLM\Comm\Irsir1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
3. HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
4. HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
5. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]
"DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 0
Good Luck.
These tweaks are already there in Schaps Advance Config Tool, just for enlightenment of everyone
Krazy thats great. I somewhow missed it. However I find by default these are disabled.
My experience is the tweaks work and are worth a try (enable the power management features).
Ya, by default for some strange reason, they are disabled. I'll try to find on the net if there is any reason for this. I have turned these on, and checking performance. Lets see.
BTW, .NET programmers here should check out a software called Pocket C#, its a compiler and IDE using which you can create .NET software on the phone itself, i really liked it. I made a small puzzle program using it on my phone itself
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hello. i own a qtek2020 of french origin and as i am a real rom'holic i use to upgrade to the latest versions either in french or english language.
With this last upgrade, something puzzles me: i normaly rely on SPB Gprs monitor's batterylife indicator to measure what energy is left in the battery. Since i have upgraded my device to 1.72 imate , the remaining indicated battery life has significantly shortened from 3 hours and something minutes talktime with a full charged battery to 2 and a half hours.
Does this mean that the battery life has significantly shorted with the 1.72 release or that SPB way of mesuring remaining energy is no more accurate with the new rom release. what also puzzles me is that i tried to switch the unit's battery for another brandnew one and i get almost the same reading.
IS this normal?
Which other precise batterylife indicating application do you use except maybe omega's one as it seems no to be fully compatible with my qtek2020.
Awaiting your suggestions, hints and answers, i remain
Brgds, Arnaud alias adhoc
don't have any problems with battery life.
I'm running i-mate 1.72 on my QTEK 2020 which has been through several updates (1.60, 1.66, orange SPV1000 rom, T-mobile 1.72 and finally i-mate 1.72).
I'm pretty satisfied with the battery life I have now.
I left my PDA with bluetooth turned on for the last 4H30 hours and got only a 4% loss of power, which means about 8% for a typical day in standby mode.
I am coming to believe that ALL SPB software has issues with 1.72 rom or specifically the Microsoft Service Pack 2 that is in the 1.72
I would suggest you remove all SPB software and see how your battery life is. Just check it in SETTINGS - POWER
drj said:
I am coming to believe that ALL SPB software has issues with 1.72 rom or specifically the Microsoft Service Pack 2 that is in the 1.72
I would suggest you remove all SPB software and see how your battery life is. Just check it in SETTINGS - POWER
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May i ask you why you say this ( regarding the compatibility issues between SPB software and rom version 1.72)?
Did you have other bad experiences with some other piece of software. Do please elaborate, as i own, like other people on this forum, some other sotware titles from or released by SPB House.
Brgds, Arnaud
Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade (ENG) WWE_RC2140907B2
anyone can help to download and share it?
thanks much lol
Download at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YZ8MW648
If the download is slow, use the following page to speed it up,
http://www.worldalley.com/rapidleech/index.php
Paste the download link there.
Rom WWE_RC2140907B2
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW IS IT.
if it solve the memory leakage problem .
And if the battery doesn't drain so fast.
Eh...what memory leakage? I have been using the previous WM6 ROM for several months, and the few times I have to do a soft reset (maybe once a week, max twice) it's because the WiFi isn't working after a sync.
More longer you use it, the memory leakage will be solve alittle by alittle.
For more than 1 month without hardreset, i able to get 27mb free RAM after reboot and the 2G MiniSD still inside.
Megaupload is very annoying. I've uploaded the ROM to http://rapidshare.com/files/59257870/Xda_Atom_Life_WM6_WWE_RC2140907B2.exe.html
Once again, you can use the following link, http://www.worldalley.com/rapidleech/index.php to speed up the download speed.
Ronv said:
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW IS IT.
if it solve the memory leakage problem .
And if the battery doesn't drain so fast.
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Well, memory leak is a real problem. If you use ActiveSync, MMS, Windows Live, then you would be haunted by the memory leak.
Anyway, this version solves some problem,
1) Windows Live feature does not try to connect to GPRS/3G anymore if you are connected to the internet via WiFi.
2) Esmertec Java is replaced by JBlend. Welcome 3D to Java world!
3) O2 Connect service is improved... a little. Never use it though... the downside is, you can't remove it, but you can disable the service.
Allso...
after update the Rom i see a that the Radio change:
OLD : AL1-KLNC-2.3.40T-070601-2
NEW: AL1_KLNC2340_070905_RS001
don't know if mean somthing.
one more thing.
The Camera is now Fixed, the zoom is working, and it's much faster.
It also looks like that the memory leakage problem is less annoying
last night after the Rom updae I had 21.72 MB now after 8 hours I have 21.70 MB.
I hope that the problem has gone away.
What ROM New
I have ROM
Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade (ENG) WWE_RC2170507B2
or
Atom life new rom in official webside -WWE_RC2140907B2
new rom
Restarts
My Atom Life restarts often without reason.
Can some one guide me why this could be happening?
I tried the new ROM, even then the problem persists.
Hang?
willwmj said:
Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade (ENG) WWE_RC2140907B2
anyone can help to download and share it?
thanks much lol
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Is there any hang when updating ROM? I read some many threads from other forums, sometimes Atom Life hangs when up ROM. If no, I will update ROM then. If yes, please let me know how to avoid it.
Any comments are highly appreciate.
Thanks in advanced.
I have had no hanging problem. Thankyou.
But, I am facing two problems :
a) Phone restarts w/o reason many times (This problem existed earlier aswell, b4 ROM upgrade)
b) When I use Wi-Fi, and after display goes into stand-by mode (after non-usage for a while), the phone display doesnot come back. (NEW PROBLEM, after ROM upgrade). The only option I have is to soft reset.
Phone resets are usually not software, but hardware related. Often bad battery connections.
The reason why I don't have a memory leak is probably that I don't use any of the Windows Live stuff. That's for kids, and I'm past 40...
But I have a problem with this ROM: The phone doesn't charge when it's connected to my computer with the Active Sync cable. It used to charge, only very slowly. Now the battery slowly drains instead! Does anybody else see this?
About the memory leak, if you didn't run any applications like MMS application, Windows Live, ActiveSync, then you are safe. Anyway, if you soft reset the device and doesn't use it to run any applications for 8 hours, you won't get a memory leak. You need to use the device to run applications to see it. But some are not memory leak. It is the way Windows work. Some code (shared modules) are not released after used because it is hoped that the next applications the user open will be using the same shared modules. The phone application (cprog.exe) also consume quite a lot of memory if you have a lot of contacts. After using it to dial and receive calls, you'll notice that it will be consuming more and more memory. So, on average, you will get around 10mb of free main memory.
Regarding device restarting itself, I only get this when I was using WM5 rom. Actually it doesn't restart itself, it shutdown itself (turned off completely). After using three WM6 rom releases, I haven't have this issue. So, it might have been hardware related (like battery). It might also be 3rd party application like PhoneAlarm. For PhoneAlarm, the device might soft reset after receiving SMS.
Regarding device freezing, I'm not having this problem also. If I do, I know that it is caused by any 3rd party applications I've installed. To investigate this part, you'll need to hard reset and force yourself to try using the device for about a week to see if it still freezes. If it does, bring it back to O2 for warranty claim.
Regarding the latest ROM update, I noticed that the camera DID start faster but the video recording is way too slow. During video recording, the frame rate on the screen is very very very very slow. For the photo shot, the shooting is quite quick but the saving part (save to main memory) is slower compared to previous rom.
I get what you mean about the memory leak. I only use NetRemote (which closes itself completely and doesn't leave anything), Pocket IE (which I up to now have closed with PocketPlus, but I have dumped PP because it gave me a few phone problems every now and then), the phone part and contacts and calendar. But I do active sync, and I haven't seen any problems there.
Well, I have faced 2 problems with this WM6 ROM:
1/ The battery life is no longer than the WM5 it maybe drains the battery more quickly. The old one I used for 2 days in normal condition (call, listen music, radio and a little bit Wifi) while new one with the same condition I only used it for more than 15 hours.
2/ When using wifi more than 30 minutes continuously, the battery become so hot (hotter than the WM5 version).
Does anybody face these problems above? If you know how to overcome them please share me.
Any comment is highly appreciate.
hello guys... I have a question..
right now I am using WM6 Chinese version, is it possible for me to upgrade to WM6 ENG version???
if so, how to do it?
MANY THANKS
[email protected] said:
Well, I have faced 2 problems with this WM6 ROM:
1/ The battery life is no longer than the WM5 it maybe drains the battery more quickly. The old one I used for 2 days in normal condition (call, listen music, radio and a little bit Wifi) while new one with the same condition I only used it for more than 15 hours.
2/ When using wifi more than 30 minutes continuously, the battery become so hot (hotter than the WM5 version).
Does anybody face these problems above? If you know how to overcome them please share me.
Any comment is highly appreciate.
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You get 15 hours? With my normal use (without bluetooth on), getting 12 hours is considered lucky for me. With bluetooth on, 8 hours and it is dead.
Same goes with WM5.
for starters ... want to apologize if people feel I should have posted in an existing thread rather than starting a new one. I have searched quite a bit and couldn't find an answer to the several questions I have. That said ...
I live in Bangalore India, and recently purchased a TP. It's an Idea Cellular branded model which in all the advertising is listed as a 7276 (though Device Info says 7272). The phone does not have a front facing camera, though it does have the Q7201a chip - so it should be capable of 3G.
The problems I'm facing are quite a few, and I'm wondering if it's Radio, ROM, carrier, etc.. and I'm hoping the members of this forum also in India can help point me in the right direction.
BTW - my phone is unlocked and I'm using Airtel in Bangalore.
a. battery life is aweful
b. wifi has poor signal strength and resets every couple minutes
c. GPS won't fix on a satellite
What ROM / Radio combination have you found to work well?
Have you gotten GPS to work.
If using Airtel have you gotten NOP or Airtel Live to work?
Do you use wifi successfully?
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A.
With the stock ROM the phone would run through it's battery in about 1/2 a day. Sitting on my nightstand with BT, WIFI, GPRS all turned off and not getting a single SMS or call, it would deplete by close to 20%.
I've tried a few other ROMs and have had various results ... the new HTC ROM is ok, but still BAD. Elite RC3 seemed better. AtomAng's newest and Energy ROM 2.0 31709 both chew through the battery pretty bad. When making/receiving a call or SMS the battery will deplete by 2~4%, but will otherwise be OK if sitting idle.
I'm suspecting it could be carrier related as I switch between Edge and GPRS constantly.
B.
Sitting within a meter of my Linksys Dual N router, I get 1mbps transmit and it resets every minute or so. If I walk upstairs, I can pretty much kiss my signal goodbye. With my VOX I could hold the signal no problem. This has been consistent with every ROM I have used.
C.
I have tried every hack and setting I can find on this one...
Using any tool I can see in the upwards of 16 satellites, but will never lock onto even a single one. I left my phone plugged in and sitting on the window ledge last night ... 3 hours and still not a single lock.
This is the 2nd handset from Idea as well ... the 1st one had audio problems and was replaced with a completely new handset.
Thanks for any help...I really want to like this phone, but right now I can't see me keeping it much longer.
---Rob
pics will help
Hi Rob,
If you send a couple of pics, me or someone else maybe able to give you better directions:
1. open the keyboard, take a pic of the whole device from the front
2. open the battery cover, remove the battery and take a pic, please black out the IMEI number before uploading this pic, I do not know any other sensitive info.
I have a suspicion it maybe a rebranded fuze, in that case flash the latest radio 1.12.25.19 and try EnergyROM 1.7 or for latest interface 2.0 (31809). But let me see the pics.
About GPS, I usually do not get a lock from a ROM until I download data in QuickGPS, try that. I think for our geographic location that matters.
Try NATF Roms
I was visiting India last month and was using my AT&T Fuze unlocked running NATF 4.2 ROM (now it is 4.4). I used idea, Airtel and CellOne all three providers and was able to get it to work flawlessly. The battery used to last 3 days on a single charge.
I did not test the GPS but did test the Wifi and BT and they work fine.
AT&T Fuze has a different keyboard layout than Touch Pro. So compare the keyboard layout and find the correct ROM and keyboard patch to use it in your phone.
i m using ROMeOS ROM and Radio 1.11.25.01 and it works perfectly fine....
for GPS, try GPS Test and some fixes available as Cabs....u can search for them in XDA........also use advance config tool and disable aGPS......
i usually get GPS lock in 10-20 seconds
on wifi signal, i cant comment, as i dont use it.........
on Battery usage, agree that battery on Touch Pro is awefull, but still i manage to end the day with 30-40 % charge after normal usage.....again search and find some tips and quick fixes, eg disabling 3g network etc etc
hope it helps you
do let me know, in case ne othr help needed
Hi,
I am also from Bangalore and am using an unlocked Fuze on the Airtel Network.
My Device : Fuze
My Radio : 1.12.25.19
Rom : Energy31709
I suggest you read up in this link by member Nvious regarding battery tips, these are working very well for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3411492&postcount=930
For better performance and stability i suggest use either Energy 1.5Final or RRE 4 Ver 2 final. Both are really good Roms and the other roms by the same chefs are really in beta stage and getting updated everyday.
Regarding GPS: the HTC GPS tool does the same for me. It can see 16 sats but doesnt lock on to one, but if you check with Chartcross Gps Test or on Google maps if you use the Use GPS function i do get an under 20sec lock and also 10 sats giving a very accurate location of me in the lawn(pretty accurate, inspite of the built in 30m error).
Hope this helps
Ice
Thanks for the quick replies ...
Tazzix
I'll get some pics out shortly...
...the keyboard has a top row of numbers so that would make it a TP. However, it's missing the front camera && it comes default with 3G turned off. Some kind of weird hybrid.
I'm currently on Energy ROM 2.0 build 31809, and just flashed the 1.12.25.19 radio an hour ago ... did the rilphone2.dll copy w/a regedit. Battery is absolutely horrible now ... a 30 min call sucked my batter by 35%.
chicagomce
Yeah, the keyboard is a TP not FUZE keyboard.
Kingjack
I've been using Adv. Config from day 1, and have done every hack for power savings I could find on xda & other HTC sites (enabled power management for everything, turned off GPRS & 3G, sleep after 1 min, keep BT and WiFi off unless I'm using it...). It's the weirdest thing ... I literaly lose 2~4% of battery each and every time I get an SMS or send one ... call drain the battery at about 1% per minute.
Ice
Interesting thing about the 1.12.25.19 radio ... I now 'find' 16 satellites in about 2 seconds, but still won't lock onto a single one - let google, HTC GPSTool, Visual GPSce and ChartCross all have a crack at it, and the result is the same ... 16 satellites get spotted but nothing will lock no matter how long I let it sit (even with QuickGPS updated no more than a minute before
each test).
When you use Google Maps does it ever go away from Seeking GPS satellites (0)? I've noticed my location is pretty much on the spot, but I thought that was because of the information passed on
Thanks for the tip on the battery link ... I already do that and a lot more, so nothing stood out as a culprit.
I'm really missing my VOX : (
---Rob
1. The rilphone is already cooked into Energy 31 series for 1.12.25.19 in energy roms as far as i know .....so messing with it may not be a good idea...unless you really know what you are doing.
2. yes it shows 10 in the brackets for me like this Satt....(10). When you say accurate how accurate is it?.
If i let my data connection do my position in google maps it points me to the location of the nearest tower which is 600m away, however when i say use gps it gives my location as my lawn from where i try it.
I get 24 to 48 hrs out of my Battery.
Hi,
I am using TP in Delhi through Vodafone since last month. And I am using original ROM/Radio till now -
ROM : 1.95.720.2 WWE
Date : 10/21/08
Radio : 1.02.25.28
I dont feel battery is that horrible as you explained... I browse internet extensively, and do spend atleast an hour talking on phone.... But by the end of the day battery remains till 30-40%... which I think is good. If I dont use wifi, its even better.
Also wifi works like a charm for me... i am able to see a complete 7 mins. youtube video or download something/read news without any connectivity break....
However, I have not been able to successfully listen to local FM till now. Has anybody got that solved (in india).
Thanks
MS
Hey MS...
Did you get a TP from out of country or did you get one of the Idea Cellular branded models?
BTW - Radio has worked for me no problem in bangalore...plug in the headset and it finds several stations...pretty good reception as well.
---Rob
Hi Rob,
I bought it in Noida only. And I dont think it is that idea branded model (how do I find out that ?)....
Only thing is that I didnt flash any ROM on this yet... just believed on the existing ROMs, used many tweaks listed in this forum... And it is running pretty good.
I couldnt get my FM radio working till yet... It is just unable to find any radio station, while there are many (ofcourse with headset plugged it). Dont know what could be the reason.
- MS
Hey Tazzix,
Here are a couple pics my friend with a BB Bold took at lunch - sorry they're blurry. The amazing onion dosa must have gotten us crazy ; >
External 7276.jpg is clear enough to see the std TP (not FUZE) style keyboard and no FF camera.
Internal 7276.jpg shows under the battery.
SN: HT845L00063
PN: 99HEY088-00
Just to the side of where the MicroSD slot is
Date 080608
Rev B01
Screen 2.jpg is the Device Info HW screen
Screen 3.is the about screen
I'm willing to screen capture or dump any part of my reg people would find helpful in troubleshooting this with me.
BTW - I purged EnergyRom 2.0 31809 this morning ... I love the UI but battery life when to S**T - which is weird, because I'd assume there is nothing in his ROM which would cause this kind of problem. Right now, I'm back on the latest official HTC ROM and battery life is back to 'dissapointing but acceptable'.
I wonder now...as I don't think the ENERGY series of ROMs comes with a radio if the rilphone.dll is correct for the 10.11.25.01 radio?.?.?.?
Anybody think I may have luck security unlocking the phone and load the blackstone radio? Many people rave about it.?.?.?.?
---Rob
Weird, no RAPHnnn?!
Hi Rob,
I would have had paneer dosa instead but unfortunately no dosa place here in Islamabad
Its weird that there is no RAPHnnn e.g. RAPH110 (FUZE) there. Anyways, in my opinion radio plays a part in battery life. I tried to refrain from flashing, and specially radio although my device is Security Unlocked. But the battery did not last a whole day so I first flashed to 20M1 then .01 and now to 12.25.19 and found the last one to be the best, I get 2 days of normal usage. You can try different radios to see which one suites you best but I never tried a radio from another device.
As far as the ROM OS goes it depends on your usage, I hate the 6.5 chrome UI. Always used M2D or full manila on older devices too, but the new manila is simply awesome in my view. I want to see minimum of the Windows UI, except when using Word, Excel, PP, or other business apps. So the new manila keeps me in stylus-free interface similar to the main screen, and the Energy ROMs are really stable, fast and NRGZ28 is constantly fixing any thing he can find.
Look at the different screenshots and give the ROMs a try, you find to your liking.
More on the battery, I ordered a 2000 mAh battery from seidoonline.com because I want two days of heavy usage like I get from my Nokia E90.
All the best.
When I bought mine the box it came in had a BIG yellow Idea Cellular label on it, and the carrier boot screen also comes up with the big yellow Idea logo.
With my radio I get about 8 stations reliably.
BTW - UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
About 2 hours ago I flashed the new HTC Asian WWE and guess what ... battery life is fine, wifi is connecting at 54mbps & GPS works. I about fell over when I was walking around and saw the lock happen.
For what it's worth, this ROM has fixed all my problems ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494603
I would love to know what is so wildly different about this ROM ... there has got to be something...the default ROM was awful the official HTC ROM from a couple weeks ago was only 'ok'.
Absolutely Rock Solid
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
crlowryjr said:
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
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Nice to hear from you ROB.... basically its based on asian customers which might differ from other countries you are getting best results....Myself tried the ROM & it's work fine so thinking of making ROM out of this base (With sahzad may be) with out much tweaking ....only stripping unwanted things & program me folder well organized easy access to often used application. By the way may i know which part of bangalore you reside in.....
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out of this which one you are using
Asia-English
ROM version: 5.07.707.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
HK-English
ROM version: 5.07.831.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
SinTel-English
ROM version: 5.07.871.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
If it is ROM version: 5.07.707.2 could you give me the s/n used to download it
crlowryjr said:
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
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Congrats, its nice to hear that you are happy now with this amazing device. And the choice of ROMs is one thing which I like about WM thanks to great chefs around here at XDA-dev.
it is 5.07.707.2 WWE ... I got it off a mirror from the original thread (my SN didn't work either).
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
Henke001 said:
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
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Hi, Henke001,
I also have same TP with vodafone in Delhi. And I could successfully update my phone with custom roms EnergyRom Phoenix2/Leo.
The phone do have 3G, though the service provider doesnt provide the support for it. I have no idea about front camera, does anyone has any idea on how do I check about this one.
Thanks
Henke001 said:
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
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Hi, Henke001,
I also have same TP with vodafone in Delhi. And I could successfully update my phone with custom roms EnergyRom Phoenix2/Leo.
The phone do have 3G, though the service provider doesnt provide the support for it. I have no idea about front camera, does anyone has any idea on how do I check about this one.
Thanks
i have the rom on my new gene how.its cool man.but my battery work only for 1 hour....and when gprs is on only 25m..this is also happen with ankit 6.5...what is the problems ...i had done battery clibration mentioned in the forum but nothing help.plz tell me..i lose 1% drainage every 1minute......should i buy new one..
It seems to be a battery problem. Try another battery.
Get a new battery.
saurabh88 said:
i have the rom on my new gene how.its cool man.but my battery work only for 1 hour....and when gprs is on only 25m..this is also happen with ankit 6.5...what is the problems ...i had done battery clibration mentioned in the forum but nothing help.plz tell me..i lose 1% drainage every 1minute......should i buy new one..
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How new is your device???
If it is still within the warranty check with the service center...also try to remove the memory card and try using for some time and monitor the battery status...it happens some times a bad memory card can suck all the power from the device...if it is kinda phone which is older 2 yr or more then get a new battery...hope you find this usefull...
my gene is 18months old.it was good when i had my original wm5..that time i got 2days battery..ok.how costly it is...should i get original or duplicate?
I always recommend original replacements. Sometime ago I lost a cell phone because of a fake battery.
I do not think duplicate batteries are worth it. They never ever give you performance (as a matter of fact, their performance will be most likely worse than your existing battery ).
BTW can you try Pro User's ROM? And give us a feed back? The Gene is a very complex device (thanks to HTC ). All are Gene, but all are different, some issues come with some devices, while they are totally non existent in other phones. If you are reading the forum for some time, I hope you understand what I mean. BTW, if I am not wrong, Battery should be around INR 2000/-.
saurabh88 said:
my gene is 18months old.it was good when i had my original wm5..that time i got 2days battery..ok.how costly it is...should i get original or duplicate?
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did you try using the phone after removing the memory card?is the battery draining at 1% every minute even after removing the memory card??
@saurabh: Try Krazy prousers ROM V2R3. Earlier also a discussion happended on battery issue. May go thru the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487374
hey strange but after removing 4gb kingston card i got 5 hrs battery at 42%charged...so u r right about bad memory card...any helpful solution for that thing
buy a new SD
hi
may be ur SD is gone bad or some thing or try buying a 2GB sd maybe another brand like transcend im using this 2GB and its not affecting my battery
and note when u use things like the M2D it drains battery so try sumits pro users im sure by my experience that ur battery performance will improve
goodluck
saurabh88 said:
hey strange but after removing 4gb kingston card i got 5 hrs battery at 42%charged...so u r right about bad memory card...any helpful solution for that thing
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saurabh88 said:
hey strange but after removing 4gb kingston card i got 5 hrs battery at 42%charged...so u r right about bad memory card...any helpful solution for that thing
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cool man....try to use the phone without the mem card for a few days so that you would know for sure if it was the memory card...when you know for sure then you can buy a new SD...good luck man...
And if you like WM 6.5 Try the new Pro Users WM 6.5 Edition, you will love the battery life it gives. With Pro Users WM 6.1 I was getting about 2-2.5 days backup, now i am getting 3.5 to 4 days! whoa! Thats super cool for a smartphone.
thanks for quickly reply and making life easier.thanks a lot.... but another question of about downgrading to my original wm5 which i had dumped...so what's ur guidance for me....plz help....and how can i do it?
4 days????
hi
im really u get 4 days man the best i get is around 2 days max but then im a heavy user i also dont have a land line so all calls official and personal on this phone only
or may be u don't use ur phone as much as me
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And if you like WM 6.5 Try the new Pro Users WM 6.5 Edition, you will love the battery life it gives. With Pro Users WM 6.1 I was getting about 2-2.5 days backup, now i am getting 3.5 to 4 days! whoa! Thats super cool for a smartphone.
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yes Haree,while using pro6.5 maximum battery life for me is 2 days ,i don't know how Sumit's gene is giving 4 days backup.
@Hari and Rakesh : Yes i am not a very heavy phone user, on gene particularly. It is for official purpose only. For other battery busting tasks, i use a nokia 1600 But i use my touch screen too much, more than anybody of you, due to always searching for new registry tweaks, analyzing system files, internet browsing, email checking, etc. Other than this i use my phone for listening to songs with AudioBooster ON for 1.5 hours everyday (I am quiet a bhajan fan, i find them very soothing, so i listen to them everyday strange for a tech guy, isn't it? But thats the way I am, a little different ). Plus about 1-2 hours of bluetooth on mode. I am gettting 3.5 to 4 days with all this
hey i got new battery cost 1500ru..and i want to ask one question.i always download from net at night..putiing my phone with charger..so is it safe way?plz give me some guidance about hiw to and when to charge battery
Yes its safe. But over time, if you don't calibrate your battery for long time, the first battery bar will start to go down fast. So make sure you re-calibrate your battery at least a month. To do that, follow these steps :
1. Discharge phone completely using games, music, videos etc and then take battery out.
2. Press and hold the power button for 30 seconds.
3. Put back the battery but don't turn on the phone.
4. Charge it in switched off condition, until the power LED becomes green.
5. Restart the phone now.
Thats it
thanks
thanks for reply
I have an almost new HTC HD2. I am testing various ROMs and radios to find the reason for why is my HD2 going through battery so quick.
At this point I am with HD2O v18 ROM and 2.15.50 radio. This is the best combo for me so far in terms of battery use. Even so, my phone, with everything but 2G turned of, I'm getting 38-39mA. With turned on screen with brightness on auto, and everything else turned of except 2G, I'm getting 100-130mA. This all seems to much to me.
I also sometimes boot AmeriCanAndroid from SD card, and there it's even worse. 60mA on standby and 120-140 on everything off but auto screen brightness.
Any ideas?
What kind of battery consumption are you getting?
i had problem like this when i used wm6.5 but then i flashed Nexus rom on nand and the bettery is good as stand by i leave it for 3 days without charging or some thing like that and every thing is fine ... give it a shoot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Thank you for your time and advice. I'll keep it in mind. But for now, I'd like to stick to WM, and solve the drain problem. Android doesn't suite me.
you welcome man,
hahaha i thought android wouldn't suite me too in the first because im wm freak, but then i found android really good .... if only microsoft didn't stop supporting it
I'm coming from Android on SE x10 which I have been using for four months. And when I say it doesn't suit me, I'm being very mild.
Anywayz, it's better to stick to the original subject. Another thing just came to my mind. Could an old SIM cause battery drain issues in standby? I have a first generation SIM dating to 1998 or 1999. SIM from last millenium.
I read somewhere that old SIMs can cause trouble on modern phones...
hahaha i don't know, first time i hear about the SIM and battery thing ... anyway good luck man solving the problem ... and when it solved let me know what was the reason
Just like I thought, the 12 years old SIM was a problem. Today I got the new SIM, and voila; 4mA on standby, I'm really surprised that nobody thought of this earlier. Not even HTC customer service.
So advice for everyone out there; if your phones have high battery drain on all ROMs/Radios, before anything else, check your SIM. And this applies to all modern phones, not just HD2. I had the same problem with SE X10.
I had the same issue when i used sd card and different android bults even nexu's and I also have a ancient sim.
The drain with the sd was 60mA in standby and more that 200mA with great spikes in normal use.(winmo 6.5 in nand)
Since I made a clean Nand install with NexusGingerbread current in standby is from 4 to 8 mA and in use about 160mA.
So if you ever decide to go in android better have a nand install.
HD2 is a great phone and i think that it is limited with stock os.
it's a common problem, it happens at random when you use WinMo a bit before running android.
use something like exceller's multi build loader, and set it to auto launch at the desired time (even 10-15 seconds work) and this problem should go away.
I also noticed that my battery consumption goes high on some build when using these apps:
setCPU (I know, strange!)
circle launcher
perfect viewer (sometimes, and only when it's running in the background, an app killer solves this)
I can't think of any other app. so if the above methd doesn't work, try to uninstall these apps if you have them one by one, reboot (turn off then on) after each uninstallation and try the phone for a few hours.
Normally, standby consumption shouldn't be higher than 15 mA/h and most of the time it should be lower than 10.