I have an almost new HTC HD2. I am testing various ROMs and radios to find the reason for why is my HD2 going through battery so quick.
At this point I am with HD2O v18 ROM and 2.15.50 radio. This is the best combo for me so far in terms of battery use. Even so, my phone, with everything but 2G turned of, I'm getting 38-39mA. With turned on screen with brightness on auto, and everything else turned of except 2G, I'm getting 100-130mA. This all seems to much to me.
I also sometimes boot AmeriCanAndroid from SD card, and there it's even worse. 60mA on standby and 120-140 on everything off but auto screen brightness.
Any ideas?
What kind of battery consumption are you getting?
i had problem like this when i used wm6.5 but then i flashed Nexus rom on nand and the bettery is good as stand by i leave it for 3 days without charging or some thing like that and every thing is fine ... give it a shoot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Thank you for your time and advice. I'll keep it in mind. But for now, I'd like to stick to WM, and solve the drain problem. Android doesn't suite me.
you welcome man,
hahaha i thought android wouldn't suite me too in the first because im wm freak, but then i found android really good .... if only microsoft didn't stop supporting it
I'm coming from Android on SE x10 which I have been using for four months. And when I say it doesn't suit me, I'm being very mild.
Anywayz, it's better to stick to the original subject. Another thing just came to my mind. Could an old SIM cause battery drain issues in standby? I have a first generation SIM dating to 1998 or 1999. SIM from last millenium.
I read somewhere that old SIMs can cause trouble on modern phones...
hahaha i don't know, first time i hear about the SIM and battery thing ... anyway good luck man solving the problem ... and when it solved let me know what was the reason
Just like I thought, the 12 years old SIM was a problem. Today I got the new SIM, and voila; 4mA on standby, I'm really surprised that nobody thought of this earlier. Not even HTC customer service.
So advice for everyone out there; if your phones have high battery drain on all ROMs/Radios, before anything else, check your SIM. And this applies to all modern phones, not just HD2. I had the same problem with SE X10.
I had the same issue when i used sd card and different android bults even nexu's and I also have a ancient sim.
The drain with the sd was 60mA in standby and more that 200mA with great spikes in normal use.(winmo 6.5 in nand)
Since I made a clean Nand install with NexusGingerbread current in standby is from 4 to 8 mA and in use about 160mA.
So if you ever decide to go in android better have a nand install.
HD2 is a great phone and i think that it is limited with stock os.
it's a common problem, it happens at random when you use WinMo a bit before running android.
use something like exceller's multi build loader, and set it to auto launch at the desired time (even 10-15 seconds work) and this problem should go away.
I also noticed that my battery consumption goes high on some build when using these apps:
setCPU (I know, strange!)
circle launcher
perfect viewer (sometimes, and only when it's running in the background, an app killer solves this)
I can't think of any other app. so if the above methd doesn't work, try to uninstall these apps if you have them one by one, reboot (turn off then on) after each uninstallation and try the phone for a few hours.
Normally, standby consumption shouldn't be higher than 15 mA/h and most of the time it should be lower than 10.
Related
Hi, everyone knows, that 4.000.6 Touch is the best ROM ever made, but as I read through many threads and topics on xda-dev, it seems that probably about one fifth of all users of this great rom is having a terrible problem with its battery drain. Normally, the drain is supposed to be quite good, even better than on WM5. Usually about 4% per night, some even 2% or less.
BUT those with the battery problem have often 5-10% per ONE HOUR. The drain after wake up is from 50mA to 120mA and the drain when using the phone (no wireless, display at maximum level) goes from 140mA to 450mA and so. (Drain after awake is supposed to be around 5mA on well-working ROM).
SO, if you have experienced similar problem, please write down your phone settings. Mine are below and I HAVE drain problem. So we can find out, if there is something we have in common or not and we´ll be able to solve the problem. (it is enough if you post only your Radio (GSM) version, but for being sure, I post everything )
Greetings
HTC Prophet
ROM version: 4.0.0.0.6 WWE --------------l
ROM date: 2/02/07 ---------------------------l
Radio version: 02.07.20 ----------------------l (these can be found in settings/system/device information)
Protocol version: 413.1.03 ------------------l
ExtROM version: 4.0.0.0.6 PV-Touch -----l
IPL: 2.09 ----------------------l
SPL: 2.09.0000 --------------l(these you can see during soft-reset)
I have radio v 2.19.21 and had battery drain issues but also with radio rom 2.69.xx. Usually 1-3 soft resets resolve the draining issues (and I mean _real_ soft resets with the stylus and not with ShutXP).
These problems seem to be related to the lockup-on-boot problem, the first time my battery drained that fast was after one of those lockups.
All that makes me think the problem could be registry-related, since WM6 flushes some reg settings when you do a real soft reset and keeps them when you make a software-induced soft reset.
I had the same issue as Infestor,
Not usually any massive issues, although my battery does seem to drain quicker than some of the other roms I've tried, but once my boot screen froze my battery was practically flat by the morning ( it froze overnight I think)?
The problem is in the new camera app...
ok, I´ll try few soft soft-resets and see what will happen. But I´ve never had any problems with boot lockups (and I have flashed this ROM several times already).
Also the new camera drivers shouldnt´t cause the problem, because then everyone using this ROM would have this problem as well. Btw I think, that in 4.000.6 Touch are the old camera drivers used, but I am not sure, so I will check this out...
robinhlozanka said:
ok, I´ll try few soft soft-resets and see what will happen. But I´ve never had any problems with boot lockups (and I have flashed this ROM several times already).
Also the new camera drivers shouldnt´t cause the problem, because then everyone using this ROM would have this problem as well. Btw I think, that in 4.000.6 Touch are the old camera drivers used, but I am not sure, so I will check this out...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's the old camera driver in the rom not the new driver
Well, well... After around 7 soft-resets (in different combinations) the problem seems to be still here... 135mA with screen on level 3
I thought that flash on Gollums new ROM may solve the problem, but Infestor is apparently using it and he experienced problems too, so it will not be probably something breathtaking
the camera driver in 4.000.6-Touch is really the old (supposed to be good) one: Camera 3.02.23018
Who will solve this is the Master of Riddles.
I havecome to the conclusion that it caused by SR sometime don't clear the memory and therefor there is not enough memory to boot the system so it just gets stuck.... we need an app that starts first in the boot that clears the memory or something like that.... I think that the solution we should look for
Hm, yeah that sounds interesting, but again, I have to say that my Prophet after a week of hard work and lots of SR haven´t experienced any boot stuck. It works with its memory very well, only my battery acts like water pump during summer floods. But certainly such an app might help solve even this.
robinhlozanka said:
Hm, yeah that sounds interesting, but again, I have to say that my Prophet after a week of hard work and lots of SR haven´t experienced any boot stuck. It works with its memory very well, only my battery acts like water pump during summer floods. But certainly such an app might help solve even this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What apps are in startup folder? might be related to some of them using battery and not getting unloaded when not in use?
gullum said:
What apps are in startup folder? might be related to some of them using battery and not getting unloaded when not in use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me see... hm, nothing special. Only poutlook.ink, Services.ink and WiFiInit.Ink
Somewhere I´ve read about WiFiInit problems, but it should have been solved already I think.
i think i figured the problem, i had some occasional HUGE battery drain issues,
then my phone wakes from stand by the battery drain was huge.
i did a hard reset, installed everything except battery status, and everything got a lott better.
i think there is an incompatibility with battery status beta 1.04 and this rom.
I had the problems with PDAViet 5 and 6, I installed gullums Touch v6 just yesterday and I have no complaints on this one so far...
elFahd said:
i think i figured the problem, i had some occasional HUGE battery drain issues,
then my phone wakes from stand by the battery drain was huge.
i did a hard reset, installed everything except battery status, and everything got a lott better.
i think there is an incompatibility with battery status beta 1.04 and this rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have installed battery status just because I wanted to know how big the drain really is. I wouldn´t install it if I haven´t experienced battery problems before BS instalation, because I like SPB pocket plus much more But maybe thi sversion is somehow strange...I will find out, what version is mine... it is 0.04.203
i must add that strangely even when the thing is in absolute low consumption (hibernation???) it wakes up. and after the previously configured time goes on then it tourns off.
i know this because:
a) have seen it
b) ching battery status (i think its the name), that also has an up time counter, shows me that it has been on more than it should, 'cause i hiibernated it.
there you have a power consumption issue...
The BatteryStatus that goes well in this ROM 4.0.0.6 is the 219
The radio goes the 2.61 well to me
PS: Not English, i use translator, sorry by the annoyances
battery draining is so if you use htc cam.if you remove htc new cam your problem should be fixed, but another problem may be begun,you can not use our perivious cam,because all things in it rotate 180 degrree.
I have flashed to Gullums V6 Touch and battery problem is solved
It is not as quick as Cloudyfa´s one, but still good and very stable - and lasts more than one day
mine does get me into the 3rd day.
it depends on how many times i connect to my wifi network... or how many hours i listen to my mp3 gallery....
usually it last 2 days... using pda viet, and although the little thingy that it turns on ....
I have the problem, too.
My xda neo shows in the morning 100% and, without use, in the afternoon 8%.
My battery hold only one day without use, then I must charge again.
o2 xda neo
PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 PV-Touch and the "finger" Cube activation from gullum
02.19.21
4.1.13.09
G4 (0001)
Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade (ENG) WWE_RC2140907B2
anyone can help to download and share it?
thanks much lol
Download at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YZ8MW648
If the download is slow, use the following page to speed it up,
http://www.worldalley.com/rapidleech/index.php
Paste the download link there.
Rom WWE_RC2140907B2
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW IS IT.
if it solve the memory leakage problem .
And if the battery doesn't drain so fast.
Eh...what memory leakage? I have been using the previous WM6 ROM for several months, and the few times I have to do a soft reset (maybe once a week, max twice) it's because the WiFi isn't working after a sync.
More longer you use it, the memory leakage will be solve alittle by alittle.
For more than 1 month without hardreset, i able to get 27mb free RAM after reboot and the 2G MiniSD still inside.
Megaupload is very annoying. I've uploaded the ROM to http://rapidshare.com/files/59257870/Xda_Atom_Life_WM6_WWE_RC2140907B2.exe.html
Once again, you can use the following link, http://www.worldalley.com/rapidleech/index.php to speed up the download speed.
Ronv said:
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW IS IT.
if it solve the memory leakage problem .
And if the battery doesn't drain so fast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, memory leak is a real problem. If you use ActiveSync, MMS, Windows Live, then you would be haunted by the memory leak.
Anyway, this version solves some problem,
1) Windows Live feature does not try to connect to GPRS/3G anymore if you are connected to the internet via WiFi.
2) Esmertec Java is replaced by JBlend. Welcome 3D to Java world!
3) O2 Connect service is improved... a little. Never use it though... the downside is, you can't remove it, but you can disable the service.
Allso...
after update the Rom i see a that the Radio change:
OLD : AL1-KLNC-2.3.40T-070601-2
NEW: AL1_KLNC2340_070905_RS001
don't know if mean somthing.
one more thing.
The Camera is now Fixed, the zoom is working, and it's much faster.
It also looks like that the memory leakage problem is less annoying
last night after the Rom updae I had 21.72 MB now after 8 hours I have 21.70 MB.
I hope that the problem has gone away.
What ROM New
I have ROM
Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade (ENG) WWE_RC2170507B2
or
Atom life new rom in official webside -WWE_RC2140907B2
new rom
Restarts
My Atom Life restarts often without reason.
Can some one guide me why this could be happening?
I tried the new ROM, even then the problem persists.
Hang?
willwmj said:
Xda Atom Life WM6 ROM Upgrade (ENG) WWE_RC2140907B2
anyone can help to download and share it?
thanks much lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there any hang when updating ROM? I read some many threads from other forums, sometimes Atom Life hangs when up ROM. If no, I will update ROM then. If yes, please let me know how to avoid it.
Any comments are highly appreciate.
Thanks in advanced.
I have had no hanging problem. Thankyou.
But, I am facing two problems :
a) Phone restarts w/o reason many times (This problem existed earlier aswell, b4 ROM upgrade)
b) When I use Wi-Fi, and after display goes into stand-by mode (after non-usage for a while), the phone display doesnot come back. (NEW PROBLEM, after ROM upgrade). The only option I have is to soft reset.
Phone resets are usually not software, but hardware related. Often bad battery connections.
The reason why I don't have a memory leak is probably that I don't use any of the Windows Live stuff. That's for kids, and I'm past 40...
But I have a problem with this ROM: The phone doesn't charge when it's connected to my computer with the Active Sync cable. It used to charge, only very slowly. Now the battery slowly drains instead! Does anybody else see this?
About the memory leak, if you didn't run any applications like MMS application, Windows Live, ActiveSync, then you are safe. Anyway, if you soft reset the device and doesn't use it to run any applications for 8 hours, you won't get a memory leak. You need to use the device to run applications to see it. But some are not memory leak. It is the way Windows work. Some code (shared modules) are not released after used because it is hoped that the next applications the user open will be using the same shared modules. The phone application (cprog.exe) also consume quite a lot of memory if you have a lot of contacts. After using it to dial and receive calls, you'll notice that it will be consuming more and more memory. So, on average, you will get around 10mb of free main memory.
Regarding device restarting itself, I only get this when I was using WM5 rom. Actually it doesn't restart itself, it shutdown itself (turned off completely). After using three WM6 rom releases, I haven't have this issue. So, it might have been hardware related (like battery). It might also be 3rd party application like PhoneAlarm. For PhoneAlarm, the device might soft reset after receiving SMS.
Regarding device freezing, I'm not having this problem also. If I do, I know that it is caused by any 3rd party applications I've installed. To investigate this part, you'll need to hard reset and force yourself to try using the device for about a week to see if it still freezes. If it does, bring it back to O2 for warranty claim.
Regarding the latest ROM update, I noticed that the camera DID start faster but the video recording is way too slow. During video recording, the frame rate on the screen is very very very very slow. For the photo shot, the shooting is quite quick but the saving part (save to main memory) is slower compared to previous rom.
I get what you mean about the memory leak. I only use NetRemote (which closes itself completely and doesn't leave anything), Pocket IE (which I up to now have closed with PocketPlus, but I have dumped PP because it gave me a few phone problems every now and then), the phone part and contacts and calendar. But I do active sync, and I haven't seen any problems there.
Well, I have faced 2 problems with this WM6 ROM:
1/ The battery life is no longer than the WM5 it maybe drains the battery more quickly. The old one I used for 2 days in normal condition (call, listen music, radio and a little bit Wifi) while new one with the same condition I only used it for more than 15 hours.
2/ When using wifi more than 30 minutes continuously, the battery become so hot (hotter than the WM5 version).
Does anybody face these problems above? If you know how to overcome them please share me.
Any comment is highly appreciate.
hello guys... I have a question..
right now I am using WM6 Chinese version, is it possible for me to upgrade to WM6 ENG version???
if so, how to do it?
MANY THANKS
[email protected] said:
Well, I have faced 2 problems with this WM6 ROM:
1/ The battery life is no longer than the WM5 it maybe drains the battery more quickly. The old one I used for 2 days in normal condition (call, listen music, radio and a little bit Wifi) while new one with the same condition I only used it for more than 15 hours.
2/ When using wifi more than 30 minutes continuously, the battery become so hot (hotter than the WM5 version).
Does anybody face these problems above? If you know how to overcome them please share me.
Any comment is highly appreciate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You get 15 hours? With my normal use (without bluetooth on), getting 12 hours is considered lucky for me. With bluetooth on, 8 hours and it is dead.
Same goes with WM5.
Okay, I haven't used my Hermes as a phone (since it's near to impossible to get a SIM-card in Japan), but now I got one and I noticed the battery drain really quickly. I can't even have it one for one day, but I used to have it on for two days before I had to recharge, and then I had beam and bluetooth running. So I need a new radio.
The question I have is, I have CRC's latest stable, flashed on a Swedish device. Can I flash any radio? (That's listed in the wiki) I've flashed ROM's and I figure the procedure is pretty much the same, but I can't find if I can use any radio? My operator i SoftBank if that's any help. Will this affect SoftBanks special text-service? (Mails instead of SMS, a real pain to get it working)
While we're at it, anyone got a recommendation for Tokyo? What I have now is 1.07.01.10.
Thanks for you patience! Please don't kill me, I just don't want to do something bad.
If you have HardSPL installed, flashing Radio ROMs is pretty safe, provided you do that from an SD card and not via a USB cable. Just avoid 1.54.x radios as they're known to be dangerous to the radio hardware. It's also a good idea to read the corresponding thread before flashing the radio ROM - people frequently provide their feedback as for stability, reception quality and power consumption.
P.S. They say 1.47.30.00 is quite good power consumption-wise.
Man, more 1.54.xx.xx bashing... I don't know why its said that 1.54.xx.xx is dangerous, I've been using here in Australia for as long as its been available. Never had a problem with the radio... I have 2 Hermes and they are both running 1.54.30.10.
Maybe it has a problem if the provider doesn't support it...
Anyway, if you know anyone in Japan with a Hermes, see what radio they're running... Unless one of our members knows what radio it is they use over there...
Cheers...
Thanks for your replies!
I tried the 1.47.30.00 and it's just as power hungry as the one I used before. Battery is now down at 43 % after 5 hours (completely charged in the beginning) and I haven't even really used it. I have to use 3G since GSM doesn't exist in Japan, which of course is a battery drainer, but come on... This won't last a day! Could be the battery since it's a fairly old phone (a year or two, not sure), but without the phone on it lasted easily two days with music running around 5 hours per day and some other daily use (looking up in dictionary, taking notes, etc).
Unfortunately as you said, 3G is a power eater... You might think about getting an extended life battery, 1500Mah or possibly a 3000Mah battery. Just remember though that the larger the battery the bigger the size and the heavier your Hermes gets...
Cheers...
Once again, thanks for your reply!
But is this drastical drop off battery time normal? I mean, it has more than halfed! The other normal phones I've had, worked atleast week one a full charge, using 3G, and the last one had a 880 Mah battery.
It's probably more convenient for me to carry an extra phone than using a bigger battery, cheaper and easier to find. >.<
I found an enabled data-connection setting in the Comm Manager that hadn't been disabled before. After a few hours of testing it would seem that the batterylife has greatly improved, but haven't done any real testing yet. Strange thing is, if I disable this Data Connection and leave the Comm Manager open, it will enable itself. But if I quit fast enough it's disable.
But what is it? I'm using a prepaid phone with no possiblities to access an internet connection with 3G, 3G is phone only. (And SoftBanks very strange text service)
Im starting this thread because of every battery thread I've read people NEVER seem to solve the problem unless they replace their ATRIX. Now a few questions. This is directed to any ATRIX owner in an attempt to find a solid solution.
1. Did your ATRIX only start having battery issues after upgrading to gingerbread?ATRIX or have you had issues beginning from stock froyo?
2. Has any solution suggested by anyone ever worked for you?
3. Does your ATRIX get hot and battery drains extremely fast?
4. Are you frequently connected to 4g H+?
If you answer no. To #2 and yes to #3 I suspect it may be a hardware problem...
on the battery this is what I see and find strange and this is the battery that came with the phone.
1880mah
1880/1930
Mah(min/typ)
7.0/7.1
Wh(min/typ)
Idk where to find production number so I guessed its this [GB/T 18287]
On the phone idk the specific so I took a guess too XD [SKU:65230]
if someone knows the two above please correct me but anyways I posted those because we can compare for those that have a problem and maybe pinpoint it to be a factory defect. Again I am doing this because this battery AND heating issue is aggravating and after 2 months I can't stand it anymore no fixes ever worked so help me and those with the issue out by providing information thanks.
Hello,
1-Yes
2-Not really, I have increase the battery life but not good as the stock Froyo.
3-Yes, but as I remember it get hot too on Froyo. Less or more... I don't know.
4-Always
I have buy an Andida 2200mAh battery and use it since 3 week, I will return to the stock battery tomorrow to check if there is a difference.
1- Nope, my battery has always lasted for around 8-10 hours everyday. (I play games and browse the internet everyday).
2-Never had any battery problem so....
3-Not at all. My Atrix has always been cool.
4. for about 4-5 hours a day (usually i am on wifi but wifi or not.....i have the same battery life).
It could be a ROM problem that you are having, maybe doing a clean install of a ROM could help you(do a complete wipe before installing the ROM). Are you using faux 123's kernel? It under-clocks your Atrix to as low as 216 GHz when your handset is idle but overclocks it to 1.1 GHz when it use. You could download setcpu to under-clock it for better battery saving and this will make your phone less hot.
You can and should also download a battery app from the market and see what your battery temp is like compared to other users. If it's a hardware issue indeed, you better return your Atrix and get a new one asap as it could cause you harm in the future.
Jibraldor said:
1- Nope, my battery has always lasted for around 8-10 hours everyday. (I play games and browse the internet everyday).
2-Never had any battery problem so....
3-Not at all. My Atrix has always been cool.
4. for about 4-5 hours a day (usually i am on wifi but wifi or not.....i have the same battery life).
It could be a ROM problem that you are having, maybe doing a clean install of a ROM could help you(do a complete wipe before installing the ROM). Are you using faux 123's kernel? It under-clocks your Atrix to as low as 216 GHz when your handset is idle but overclocks it to 1.1 GHz when it use. You could download setcpu to under-clock it for better battery saving and this will make your phone less hot.
You can and should also download a battery app from the market and see what your battery temp is like compared to other users. If it's a hardware issue indeed, you better return your Atrix and get a new one asap as it could cause you harm in the future.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's just it with everything stock gingerbread my friends ATRIX doesn't heat up as hot and eat through batteries like a fat guy an a dozen doughnuts in one sitting. We both had stock when I tried this his phone easily outlasts mine both on 4g and a factory reset I tested this when he asked me to root his phone I was gunna kill its bat and charge it to root and install unlock etc. And to my surprise holy sh#t his battery life WAY outlasted mine, AND HIS DEVICE IS ONE.MONTH OLDER i've had this ATRIX for 2 months now so its none of whatever everyone is saying about battery caliBS its a firm suspicion on a hardware flaw, the sooner people can find it the sooner Motorola can replace defective handsets, ridiculous, two stock gingerbread motorolas with 100% stock and mine only lasts about had as
long as my friends own who gets battery results everyone brags about.
i own 3 atrixes ive had an atrix since launch day had its issues at first but one thing that was never a problem was the battery it was always amazing lasted 2 days sometimes well since the offical ota uPdate i updated only one that way its my main phone and right away i noticed the heat coming from the metal clip holding the sd card then next i noticed the batt life was losing 10 every 20 mins or so. since i have rooted it just so i could try n use tb to freeze all the bloatware and still nothing then i tryed just bout every other method on this forum so i didnt wanna lose my warrenty on that 1 so i didnt unlock it so i took my other atrix with a slightly cracked screen it was running on 4.1.26 so i rooted it unlocked it and charged too 100 then flashed to alien v3 so wen it was done it upgraded to gb and right away i noticed the heat from it just like my other one and battery life was losing 10% every 20 mins just like my other one i have also tryed everything on this forum im lost now dnt no wat to do somebody please help also as upset i am about this happing im very relieved to c im not the only person with this issue
pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
HemRoyd said:
pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are some roms, who improve battery life, don't know about gps. But if you install another rom, you will void your warranty and you won't be able to flash the specific original rom for your region, cause for most devices there's only the generic rom to flash (shouldn't be a problem if you have to take it to service, just that you know)...
If you want to use the active instead of your garmin, you will have to find a very good navigation app, because as I think, you need something for area where are no streets, too. And most navigation apps haven't got this feature...
I have an active myself. If you want to keep it down to it's basic functions (which is basically already set as an outdoors device) i would suggest that you don't upgrade to ics and keep the original gingerbread software which has far less battery draining than any ics based rom. About the GPS, i used it severalk times for travbelling and never for tracking so don't know how it works in deep thick woods, but always had speedy lock on and precise navigation. Unlike above user stated most navigation (one with offline maps would probably be best) apps are for trekking and offraod activities, what you can do is modify your gps.conf file to make it specific to your region or area so satellite lock time will be much improved. Just search the forum for gps speed fixes, there's also a patch for agps to help increase satellite locking time.
I own this phone and wanted to do the same as you.
All setups i tried were not stable. sometimes the external power cable got disconnected, sometimes just the app closed.
after months of testing, i reverted to gamin products as they offer a much more rugged and robust hardware. I never managed to track > 20 hours on my active-phone.
Sent from my Pro using xda premium
Thanks for all of your input folks.
I did receive the phone on Friday and had a chance to check it out over the weekend. My first impression is that it has a comfortable size and mass to it and I do not mind the screen size at all. It seems quite speedy and the (Gingerbread) OS operates like butter. I did have difficulty getting the GPS function to lock at first. After prolonged attempts, it wasn't until I installed an app called GPS Test did it finally lock - not quite sure what the difference was, perhaps AGPS may have been responsible. Since then however, I have been attempting to maintain GPS-only locating as I am certain that data would not be available in the majority of my usage areas. I looked at most of the GPS Mapping/Tracking apps and settled on the paid version of AlpineQuest - excellent app. I got my waypoints from my Garmin loaded onto my SD card and was quickly navigating the trails in the woods behind my house. Great stuff!
I got just over 8hrs of solid use out of the first charge on the stock battery, so the phone should keep up with a full day on the trails. I have also ordered a couple of spare batteries and standalone charger for backup. Since this first day of use, I have been using the GPS Test app exclusively to verify my satellite lock prior to using AlpineQuest. I did notice that after prolonged non-usage or following a charge cycle I did have some difficulty locking on to the satellites, however each time it was solved with a phone reboot - after which the GPS Test app would lock on within seconds (even inside the house). Each time I was in airplane mode with WiFi off. I will have to monitor the satellite locking for consistency before I am all in with this device but so far I am quite please with its (stock) performance.
the phone & the user may be active, but the battery is certainly not. the display is not that bright under bright sunlight situations :X
hi, i have the active as well and so far i am pretty satisfied.. not VERY satisfied due to Battery life.. but without that issue, I am satisfied...
I have dropped this baby 4 times already on concrete (2 waist level 2 chest level) and the phone just bounced without any cracked screen (it does have some dents on the silver lining around the screen though), but i can guarantee that this phone is shock proof because on those 4 times, the phone did not even turn-off or restart or even battery breaking out from its case...
I do not do trails but so far, the NavFree app has been very good to me with my driving direction needs... easy locking with GPS and pretty good directions...
Try also searching for build.prop tweaks in the development area of this forum because i think it can help in the phone's performance and a little bit of battery life.. i can do intermittent non-heavy image/flash website surfing and the battery could last more than 8 hours and if I just have my phone on stand by (just waiting for messages and calls and reply to them) battery could last more than 24 hours...
I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
rullean said:
I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
HemRoyd said:
I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you have to tell me if you notice some increase in battery life with those 1800's...
regarding rooting, i followed this procedure with no problem: http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/241059
just follow it step by step.. also, if you are not aware, you have to flash the kernel using the flashtool before you can flash the rom through CWM.... in anyway, you should not be afraid of bricking your phone because I was able to always restore my phone through that link's procedure.. however, pls do not take my word on it because what works for me might not work for you even if we have the same phone... we still might have a different stock.. so rooting your phone is always at your own risk (my disclaimer, hehehe)...
regarding rom, i find the free experia rom's quite good... after initial loading of the rom, i got more than 400mb free internal space.. so they did remove a lot of bloated apps that you dont really use...
just as side note: i installed cm10 fxp138 on my active and the battery lasts for 36hours and more. i really like 4.1 jb.
Update
OK, so I am rooted and remain locked. I ended up flashing stock 4.0.2.A.0.42 and then this ROM:
ROM][GB][ALL MDPI] HASA v5 [2.3.7][27/9/12]
My prayers have been answered! This ROM is fast and lean! Thanks very much to sandy7 for his work on this! I followed his instructions exactly as in his first post, however did not need to install the revised camera lib as I had no issues with the camera. I've had absolutely zero issues and love the speed.
Now for the battery life. I finally got the spare batteries I mentioned in the previous post (shipped from China). My initial observation is that these batteries smoke the stock one by a large margin. I still need to spend a little more time on this ROM to be certain. As mentioned before, my goal is to replace my standalone GPS unit with this phone. I am not using phone or data, so I am in airplane mode all the time. I am using wifi a bit. With the stock battery I got about 1 day and 12 hours of standby and light use on wifi and gps with 10% remaining. On the replacement battery I got 3 days and 16 hours with 35% remaining before I decided to try the stock battery again. The stock battery began to drain as soon as I put it in and was down to 85% within the first hour. I don't know, perhaps these stock batteries are junk? I am open to suggestions on how to properly do a test and comparison.
omg.. really? so those china batteries work for you? damn.. I want those.. i will buy those..