hello. i own a qtek2020 of french origin and as i am a real rom'holic i use to upgrade to the latest versions either in french or english language.
With this last upgrade, something puzzles me: i normaly rely on SPB Gprs monitor's batterylife indicator to measure what energy is left in the battery. Since i have upgraded my device to 1.72 imate , the remaining indicated battery life has significantly shortened from 3 hours and something minutes talktime with a full charged battery to 2 and a half hours.
Does this mean that the battery life has significantly shorted with the 1.72 release or that SPB way of mesuring remaining energy is no more accurate with the new rom release. what also puzzles me is that i tried to switch the unit's battery for another brandnew one and i get almost the same reading.
IS this normal?
Which other precise batterylife indicating application do you use except maybe omega's one as it seems no to be fully compatible with my qtek2020.
Awaiting your suggestions, hints and answers, i remain
Brgds, Arnaud alias adhoc
don't have any problems with battery life.
I'm running i-mate 1.72 on my QTEK 2020 which has been through several updates (1.60, 1.66, orange SPV1000 rom, T-mobile 1.72 and finally i-mate 1.72).
I'm pretty satisfied with the battery life I have now.
I left my PDA with bluetooth turned on for the last 4H30 hours and got only a 4% loss of power, which means about 8% for a typical day in standby mode.
I am coming to believe that ALL SPB software has issues with 1.72 rom or specifically the Microsoft Service Pack 2 that is in the 1.72
I would suggest you remove all SPB software and see how your battery life is. Just check it in SETTINGS - POWER
drj said:
I am coming to believe that ALL SPB software has issues with 1.72 rom or specifically the Microsoft Service Pack 2 that is in the 1.72
I would suggest you remove all SPB software and see how your battery life is. Just check it in SETTINGS - POWER
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May i ask you why you say this ( regarding the compatibility issues between SPB software and rom version 1.72)?
Did you have other bad experiences with some other piece of software. Do please elaborate, as i own, like other people on this forum, some other sotware titles from or released by SPB House.
Brgds, Arnaud
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Good Day All,
I recently got a qtek1010 from a friend of mine who claimed not to use with ppc 2002 installed. I have some questions about it on the hardware and also upgrading.
1. Backup battery indicator always shows 25% even if i leave it charging whole night. Is the battery dead? What kind of a battery is that Is it an easy process to renew it?
2. My rom version is 3.18.04 rom date :05/22/03 radio verion 3.25.01 and protocol version 32S54. The radio reception of the phone is not satisfactory. If the signal is somewhat weak it is not possible to talk without interruption. May i have some improvement on reception if i upgrade to wm 2003 or 2003se? As far as i saw, all wm2003 versions in the kitchen are for specific operators. If i decide to update to wm 2003 which rom version should i use in order to get it work in Turkey?
I will be pleased if anybody can help.
Thanks
There is a new Radio from Imate in the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms Anyone try it and is it any better. I didnt download it yet but I imagine take the RUUSigned and put with RUU Wrapper v4 and I'll try it out today.
Here is the thread about the ROM update that is containing the new Radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299597
I combined the RUU with the Olipro RUUWrapper v4 and uploaded to a NON Rapidshare mirror and added to wiki.
http://www.bestsharing.com/files/INdT1250288/RUU Radio Only 1.38.30.10.exe.html
Radios can be uploaded to the xda ftp, the M$ crap was just for ROMs.
been trying it out for the past 2 days...i don't know if it's the new combo of the new Lvsw build with this radio but my battery has gone down faster. I work in a building where typically reception is from poor to non-existent. I carry the phone in my pocket and set to auto band mode and the past two days working from 8 to 1 Battery life have been going down to 40%. On the older wm6 builds with 1.38.00.10 I can typically get around 70% by the time I leave work...
So what's everyone else getting? Have you experienced a decrease in battery life?
On a plus note, I can see that it hangs on to a 3G signal longer before it switches to Edge and a very slight increase in reception.
its no real change from the 1.38 update.... just fixes for WCDMA on the 850Mhz band....
walshieau said:
its no real change from the 1.38 update.... just fixes for WCDMA on the 850Mhz band....
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must be the new OS i'm runnin'...maybe I should try the new Black
guapinoy said:
been trying it out for the past 2 days...i don't know if it's the new combo of the new Lvsw build with this radio but my battery has gone down faster. I work in a building where typically reception is from poor to non-existent. I carry the phone in my pocket and set to auto band mode and the past two days working from 8 to 1 Battery life have been going down to 40%. On the older wm6 builds with 1.38.00.10 I can typically get around 70% by the time I leave work...
So what's everyone else getting? Have you experienced a decrease in battery life?
On a plus note, I can see that it hangs on to a 3G signal longer before it switches to Edge and a very slight increase in reception.
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I noticed the battery drain too.
I noticed something "strange" but I can't assure (yet) if it's caused by this Radio ROM or by the WWE AKU 3.3.1 ROM.
The strange behaviour is that my phone auto switched-on apparently without reason (?). It happens when I enter in the underground and the phone losses the signal, and when I leave the underground and the phone catch the signal again...
Since I've installed the Radio ROM and the AKU 3.3.1 almost at same time, I don't know what is the cause. But I will return to a prior Radio ROM in order to know it.
In any case, did anyone noticed something similar?
BTW: Bootloader 1.11 is really fast flashing radio!!!
Fail at 7% ...
Trying to upgrade from the HTC ROM 2.11 which install SPL 1.11
When I run the radio only upgrade, it will start flashing but will stop at around 7%, then reboot.
Any ideas?
Jean-Yves
jyavenard said:
Trying to upgrade from the HTC ROM 2.11 which install SPL 1.11
When I run the radio only upgrade, it will start flashing but will stop at around 7%, then reboot.
Any ideas?
Jean-Yves
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Hope you have Hard-SPL installed...if not...you have bricked your device
Regards,
Primoz
VivaErBetis said:
I noticed something "strange" but I can't assure (yet) if it's caused by this Radio ROM or by the WWE AKU 3.3.1 ROM.
The strange behaviour is that my phone auto switched-on apparently without reason (?). It happens when I enter in the underground and the phone losses the signal, and when I leave the underground and the phone catch the signal again...
Since I've installed the Radio ROM and the AKU 3.3.1 almost at same time, I don't know what is the cause. But I will return to a prior Radio ROM in order to know it.
In any case, did anyone noticed something similar?
BTW: Bootloader 1.11 is really fast flashing radio!!!
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Tests finished. It's not a radio behaviour; it's a AKU 3.3.1 behaviour. Does anybody knows how to deactivate it?
Pc78 said:
Hope you have Hard-SPL installed...if not...you have bricked your device
Regards,
Primoz
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Not at all.
After 7% it reboot and that's it.. back to normal.
I can't install Hard-SPL for some reasons...
JY
jyavenard said:
Not at all.
After 7% it reboot and that's it.. back to normal.
I can't install Hard-SPL for some reasons...
JY
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I assume you cannot enter into OS if you don`t have HardSPL....cause if you can enter to OS you can repair it...
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Primoz
No Battery Drain here
VivaErBetis said:
I noticed the battery drain too.
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My battery is holding charge just fine. My phone hasn't been plugged in since I left for lunch from work yesterday afternoon. I have used it to make several calls and emails since yesterday and it's still showing a full charge.
Of course I live in an area that has really good coverage as well, so my phone doesn't search for signal that much.
I can report the same... no noticed change to battery life.
I have noticed a massive change with battery life. Also i cant go a call more than 30sec with out it breaking up, never a problem before with 1.34
Anyone else experiencing this problem?
I have been running version 2.11 for the HTC Qtek (South Africa) on my imate JasJam, it was running 1.38.00.10
I upgraded the radio to 1.38.30.10, and three times in 24 hours now I've noticed that the jasjam was asking for my PIN code and had switched the phone off.
This never happened with the earlier 1.38.
Has anyone experienced something similar ?
Thanks
JY
No, not to me..
Maybe depends by the ROM installed..
I upgraded the Radio for 2 days and can tell the followings: -
The time required to search network in Hong Kong (3 HK) has been reduced and the signal is stronger than 1.38.00.10. However, I notice one problem, I tried to call my mobile a few times after the upgrade, and 2 out of 10 calls had been directed to voice mail (signal was strong at that time). Don't know it is the problem of this rom or I had that problem long ago (as I hadn't tried before to call myself so many time).
I just read the comments about the Radio ROM 1.48.00.0 and I'm not conviced I should upgrade, however I am useing 1.47.00.10 now and it sucks. I hardly get any signal. It took the hermes about 20km on the motorway to fetch a proper signal so I could call home (very irritating)
I hear some people talking about 1.43 being the best. Also some sounds that only the first ROM is generic and the rest is specific for the provider it was stripped from. Other users experience batterydrain with specific ROMs. There is no real favourite anyway
So my question is, which ROM is the best? I am in Europe most of the time so my focus will be on that functionality.
Please post your suggestions
Cheers!
For me the best is 1.43.
I installed 1.47, and I have a lot of problems with internet connection and missed calls.
Could you post please the link to the thread for the 1.48.00.00 bad comments?
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Could you post please the link to the thread for the 1.48.00.00 bad comments?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317335
Not specifically bad comments. It seems to work fine for the AT&T community, but not for others.
Big comments post
So why we don't make a bir query, a big post where people could speak they're experience with different radios, in an Standardized aproach, like:
-Phone Model:
-OS in use:
-Operator in use and actual location in the world:
-Radio Rom's used and the opinion on each of them:
What do you think??? I'm reading a lot to discover wich one to upgrade... But there are so many different opinions...
Can nobody on XDA decipher these radios and tell us exactly what's different with each? Higher frequency in one part of the band or some sort? I have no idea... almsost seems like for all we know, all the radios are exactly the same the manufacturers just rename them each time they release it with a new ROM.
im a cingular user and tried 1.48 and i know it did not work good for me .. went back to 1.47
im on tmob and i notice 1.48 doesnt perform as well as 1.43/1.46 never tried 1.47
I'm also on t-mobile and 1.47 has much better reception and battery life than 1.48.
I found 1.43 is best for AT&T in Southern California. I tried 1.48 and 1.47, but 1.48 drained battery too fast, and 1.47 only gave so so signal strength.
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I found 1.43 is best for AT&T in Southern California. I tried 1.48 and 1.47, but 1.48 drained battery too fast, and 1.47 only gave so so signal strength.
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I just upgraded to 1.48 a few days ago and had a chance to test it from where I live in Palmdale out to Ontario yesterday. I noticed the same thing too. On a full charge all night on the wall I was able to take a single 10 minute call and use the internet for about 15 minutes. By the time I was heading back home my battery was almost drained! My power settings put the phone to sleep after 1 minute on battery power and my screen backlight is set to 30% on battery power. Definitely not acceptable! I think I will give 1.43 a try.
1.43 is amazing for battery life. i will not be upgrading to 1.47/1.48
I have tried them all (Rom's and Radio's). For me in the Netherlands is probably the 1.47 the best option. In combination with Schap's Rom even the power consumption is acceptable. I travel a lot and come often in Germany and Belgium too. No problemos with my combination!
The best option for you is try them out!
Good Luck with it.
Codevyper said:
I just upgraded to 1.48 a few days ago and had a chance to test it from where I live in Palmdale out to Ontario yesterday. I noticed the same thing too. On a full charge all night on the wall I was able to take a single 10 minute call and use the internet for about 15 minutes. By the time I was heading back home my battery was almost drained! My power settings put the phone to sleep after 1 minute on battery power and my screen backlight is set to 30% on battery power. Definitely not acceptable! I think I will give 1.43 a try.
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Your case is a bit too weird. But I have tested all 1.40/41/43/47 and 1.48
1.48 is definitely drains power much faster than other radio version and without any extra benefits.
I will suggest 1.41 and 43 (they are both good and stable) but I am now testing 1.47.
BTW, I believe it also depends on where is your location and also the network operator. If your area or your operator has weaker network, the device needs more power to get signal (by my common sense)
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
One of the issues which is commonly being reported is faster draining of battery life after upgrade to wm6.1. I am infering this not only by the postings in this Forum , but many other similar forums on the net.
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
1. Upgrade from wm6.0 to wm6.1 results in faster battery drain. I understand W6.1 upgrade is must and really makes your gene fast, However I could never calibrate/compare both these OS on the battery parameter.
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
3. Suprisingly and Interestingly- I also read (across some forums) even the SIM cards have also a role to play. HTC gene with SIM card of one teleoperator had different battery drain experience when compared to SIM of the other teleoperator.
4. SD card use may also affect the battery use.
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
techmate said:
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
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I have always been flashing ROM with the SIM in the mobile...can someone confirm if we do have to remove the sim while flashing...
Sumit,ankit,Ramersonw whats your thought on this...
Flashing Correct Roms never damage sim cards. And the reason why SDCard is recommended to be removed is because in some firmware, mostly in old gene, the bootloader gets stuck when it enconters RUU connection from both cable as well as an SD Card, which as you might know can also be used to flash ROMs. this problem is not seen in New GENE (as far as i know). But sim cards have nothing to do with flashing, i can say this after 800+ flashes i have done.
Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
^I dont quiet agree with the battery thing. There is something wrong with the old gene XIP that chefs in this forum including me have got. Because, the problem doesnt exists on New Gene. I think, if we can find a WM 6 rom for old gene and then use its XIP to port 6.1 ROMs, battery problem will be solved. I am deeply investigating this issue and its got something to do with Filesystem drivers and filters, that i am sure. lets see
i think its just the Phone
hi
this is what i feel is the reason for batt life
i think it is about usage i think this is not designed for a person like me who is in sales and has heavy call in comming and outgoing i did not feel any batt problem when i was using non WM phone so may be WM os takes up a lot of batt is what i feel u see the whole of last week i was using my spare Motorola ( non WM)and the batt life was great 2 days and its an old mobile
so my feeling is this phone isnt made for heavy phone user its for light users who are at office and have the option of recharging the batt as an when they want
pls not im one of those guys who has changed my phone in every 6 months and the last one was this gene (hope i dont change again cant afford anymore )
the above is my feeling after using almost every brand of Non WM and now using WM phone
techmate said:
Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
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No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
Sumit,
True something is amiss in ROM for OLD GENE. I find your V1.04 much battery friendly but a more sophisticated version V2.0 hard on battery.
Is it that newer builds may have some compatability/hardware issue with OLD Gene or some features actually not meant for OLD Gene are hard on battery life?
Remember HTC 3400 (OLD GENE) has only been launched with WM5.0 and officially no ROM upgrade has been given by them
People like you have and some great developers /contributors have kept the HTC gene live
BTW during these discussions if we are able to find some tweaks for battery issues that will be great and will really help all of us.
Sumit,
I am Agree with u. I also use my new Gene with Ur's 6.1 V2 R1, and also I am Is in sales and doing a lots of call, checking lotus Note Mail. My Battery Life is fine. It goes hole day..
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Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
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Hi buddy i am just sharing my experience here i have tried lomlom's fusion ROM in the past ....i have been using it for at least a good 3 months or so which is a manila ROM and i have not seen any decrease in battery performance and to mention i have a OLD gene...so i don't think that Manila ROM's eat the battery fast...
Re: Battery Life Vs Network
One thing you guys are missing out is battery life is directly dependent on the signal strength, the worse the strength, the more battery the device will eat up, trying always to get a good signal. When I am travelling on train, my battery wont last even 12 hours . Even without talking. So take a note of that too. And my personal experience with AirTel is that network quality is very poor, as far as Kolkata goes, where as Vodafone has the best quality, so whenever I put in my Vodafone SIM, my battery life automatically increases. Please note that even if your signal is showing 100%, it may not be actual. As most of you must have noticed, the moment you make a call or recieve a call, signal strength drops (not always though). For example in my office (With airtel), the signal strength is always 100%, but to attend a call, everyone has to run out of the office .
You have a very good point there Shaunak
i think u did not get wat i meant @Krazy
hi
what i meant is their are 8XXX and 7xxx old gene mine is a 8xxx old gene
what i meant is pls chek if this batt problem is with the users of 8XXX old gene or 7XXX old gene because im having no battery problem with any of ur Prouser roms so thought if may be we can clear it out it might help u
its not about my phone and ur phone(we are both using 8xxx) im asking could it be about 8xxx and 7xxx old gene just a suggestion on an area we can chek on
krazy_about_technology said:
No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
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@hari : Oh, i did not got what you intended. Sorry, and thanks for enlightening me
@everyone: Yeah, so far we have tried checked ONBL, SPL and GSM versions but they dont tell anything about which gene is having battery problems and which don't. I request people to try posting the serial nos also if they are having battery problem.
Registry tweaks for battery
Hi all,
I was wondering whether the various regsitry tweaks for battery power usage work. I found some of them while browsing some of the forums
As said while illustrating these tips " I owe No Responsibility for any damage"
I just found them on the forums, am using them and sharing them to you. I will share my experience and request you to use them at your own risk.
1. HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
2. HKLM\Comm\Irsir1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
3. HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
4. HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
5. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]
"DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 0
Good Luck.
These tweaks are already there in Schaps Advance Config Tool, just for enlightenment of everyone
Krazy thats great. I somewhow missed it. However I find by default these are disabled.
My experience is the tweaks work and are worth a try (enable the power management features).
Ya, by default for some strange reason, they are disabled. I'll try to find on the net if there is any reason for this. I have turned these on, and checking performance. Lets see.
BTW, .NET programmers here should check out a software called Pocket C#, its a compiler and IDE using which you can create .NET software on the phone itself, i really liked it. I made a small puzzle program using it on my phone itself
Hello.
Recently I tests different ROMs. Little longer I have Novembre5 Clean from June with radio 1700.
Generally I noticed , that if radio is not in use, one can work with tg01 relatively long time. However it is enough to start internet connection ( palringo or IE ) and battery life is less than 1 hour. I realize that backlight is active then and it consumes a lot of energy but with executed navigation software like Garmin XT with GPS on and backlight on , battery is able to live above 3.5 hour.
Unfortunately I did not check how situation looks with original Toshiba WM6.5 ROM.
I know gsm transmiter can issue even 1W of power but as I know it can happen only when there is very poor quality of connection so it rather does not explain so fast battery discharging. It looks like gsm transmiter emits 1W all the time gsm connection is active.
Is anybody able to explain it ? Are radio versions more or less power consuming ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hello.
Recently I tests different ROMs. Little longer I have Novembre5 Clean from June with radio 1700.
Generally I noticed , that if radio is not in use, one can work with tg01 relatively long time. However it is enough to start internet connection ( palringo or IE ) and battery life is less than 1 hour. I realize that backlight is active then and it consumes a lot of energy but with executed navigation software like Garmin XT with GPS on and backlight on , battery is able to live above 3.5 hour.
Unfortunately I did not check how situation looks with original Toshiba WM6.5 ROM.
I know gsm transmiter can issue even 1W of power but as I know it can happen only when there is very poor quality of connection so it rather does not explain so fast battery discharging. It looks like gsm transmiter emits 1W all the time gsm connection is active.
Is anybody able to explain it ? Are radio versions more or less power consuming ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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This was a problem I faced with all Novembre 5 roms, Battery life. I thought that the phone's battery life was supposed to be like that, Until i tried cooked WM 6.5 roms, and I was really surprised
Try the rom in my signature and fixes are available in the thread, you'll be really glad with battery life.
Regards
wafeeq said:
Try the rom in my signature and fixes are available in the thread, you'll be really glad with battery life.
Regards
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Thanks
Any fixes I can see there are concerned only with GPS. Am I right ?
It is possible I would have to change radio to other version - maybe 1700 ( there are different oppinions what radio is the best in Poland ). May it has any influence on battery life ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Thanks
Any fixes I can see there are concerned only with GPS. Am I right ?
It is possible I would have to change radio to other version - maybe 1700 ( there are different oppinions what radio is the best in Poland ). May it has any influence on battery life ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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1- There are some fixes I posted in the thread for manila, like weather update and finance tab etc...
2-Changing radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823706
And for my experience Radio has nothing to do with battery life
wafeeq said:
1- There are some fixes I posted in the thread for manila, like weather update and finance tab etc...
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Could You upload version with manila ( and radio like in original thread - 5005.1700.05 ) to any human server ?
This link :
http://share.yunfile.com/file/zhaochengw/602b29cb/TG01 WM21908+Manila20161332.rar/
is tragic
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
If the mobile phone is struggling to find a signal, it will use more power to search for it.
elder T said:
If the mobile phone is struggling to find a signal, it will use more power to search for it.
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I agree with You but it was testing in my home in the centre of the city, so it is hard to assume that signal strength is small. I suppose that described in tg01 user's manual talk time about 4-5 hours is pure fiction.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd