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hello. i own a qtek2020 of french origin and as i am a real rom'holic i use to upgrade to the latest versions either in french or english language.
With this last upgrade, something puzzles me: i normaly rely on SPB Gprs monitor's batterylife indicator to measure what energy is left in the battery. Since i have upgraded my device to 1.72 imate , the remaining indicated battery life has significantly shortened from 3 hours and something minutes talktime with a full charged battery to 2 and a half hours.
Does this mean that the battery life has significantly shorted with the 1.72 release or that SPB way of mesuring remaining energy is no more accurate with the new rom release. what also puzzles me is that i tried to switch the unit's battery for another brandnew one and i get almost the same reading.
IS this normal?
Which other precise batterylife indicating application do you use except maybe omega's one as it seems no to be fully compatible with my qtek2020.
Awaiting your suggestions, hints and answers, i remain
Brgds, Arnaud alias adhoc
don't have any problems with battery life.
I'm running i-mate 1.72 on my QTEK 2020 which has been through several updates (1.60, 1.66, orange SPV1000 rom, T-mobile 1.72 and finally i-mate 1.72).
I'm pretty satisfied with the battery life I have now.
I left my PDA with bluetooth turned on for the last 4H30 hours and got only a 4% loss of power, which means about 8% for a typical day in standby mode.
I am coming to believe that ALL SPB software has issues with 1.72 rom or specifically the Microsoft Service Pack 2 that is in the 1.72
I would suggest you remove all SPB software and see how your battery life is. Just check it in SETTINGS - POWER
drj said:
I am coming to believe that ALL SPB software has issues with 1.72 rom or specifically the Microsoft Service Pack 2 that is in the 1.72
I would suggest you remove all SPB software and see how your battery life is. Just check it in SETTINGS - POWER
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May i ask you why you say this ( regarding the compatibility issues between SPB software and rom version 1.72)?
Did you have other bad experiences with some other piece of software. Do please elaborate, as i own, like other people on this forum, some other sotware titles from or released by SPB House.
Brgds, Arnaud
There is a new Radio from Imate in the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms Anyone try it and is it any better. I didnt download it yet but I imagine take the RUUSigned and put with RUU Wrapper v4 and I'll try it out today.
Here is the thread about the ROM update that is containing the new Radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299597
I combined the RUU with the Olipro RUUWrapper v4 and uploaded to a NON Rapidshare mirror and added to wiki.
http://www.bestsharing.com/files/INdT1250288/RUU Radio Only 1.38.30.10.exe.html
Radios can be uploaded to the xda ftp, the M$ crap was just for ROMs.
been trying it out for the past 2 days...i don't know if it's the new combo of the new Lvsw build with this radio but my battery has gone down faster. I work in a building where typically reception is from poor to non-existent. I carry the phone in my pocket and set to auto band mode and the past two days working from 8 to 1 Battery life have been going down to 40%. On the older wm6 builds with 1.38.00.10 I can typically get around 70% by the time I leave work...
So what's everyone else getting? Have you experienced a decrease in battery life?
On a plus note, I can see that it hangs on to a 3G signal longer before it switches to Edge and a very slight increase in reception.
its no real change from the 1.38 update.... just fixes for WCDMA on the 850Mhz band....
walshieau said:
its no real change from the 1.38 update.... just fixes for WCDMA on the 850Mhz band....
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must be the new OS i'm runnin'...maybe I should try the new Black
guapinoy said:
been trying it out for the past 2 days...i don't know if it's the new combo of the new Lvsw build with this radio but my battery has gone down faster. I work in a building where typically reception is from poor to non-existent. I carry the phone in my pocket and set to auto band mode and the past two days working from 8 to 1 Battery life have been going down to 40%. On the older wm6 builds with 1.38.00.10 I can typically get around 70% by the time I leave work...
So what's everyone else getting? Have you experienced a decrease in battery life?
On a plus note, I can see that it hangs on to a 3G signal longer before it switches to Edge and a very slight increase in reception.
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I noticed the battery drain too.
I noticed something "strange" but I can't assure (yet) if it's caused by this Radio ROM or by the WWE AKU 3.3.1 ROM.
The strange behaviour is that my phone auto switched-on apparently without reason (?). It happens when I enter in the underground and the phone losses the signal, and when I leave the underground and the phone catch the signal again...
Since I've installed the Radio ROM and the AKU 3.3.1 almost at same time, I don't know what is the cause. But I will return to a prior Radio ROM in order to know it.
In any case, did anyone noticed something similar?
BTW: Bootloader 1.11 is really fast flashing radio!!!
Fail at 7% ...
Trying to upgrade from the HTC ROM 2.11 which install SPL 1.11
When I run the radio only upgrade, it will start flashing but will stop at around 7%, then reboot.
Any ideas?
Jean-Yves
jyavenard said:
Trying to upgrade from the HTC ROM 2.11 which install SPL 1.11
When I run the radio only upgrade, it will start flashing but will stop at around 7%, then reboot.
Any ideas?
Jean-Yves
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Hope you have Hard-SPL installed...if not...you have bricked your device
Regards,
Primoz
VivaErBetis said:
I noticed something "strange" but I can't assure (yet) if it's caused by this Radio ROM or by the WWE AKU 3.3.1 ROM.
The strange behaviour is that my phone auto switched-on apparently without reason (?). It happens when I enter in the underground and the phone losses the signal, and when I leave the underground and the phone catch the signal again...
Since I've installed the Radio ROM and the AKU 3.3.1 almost at same time, I don't know what is the cause. But I will return to a prior Radio ROM in order to know it.
In any case, did anyone noticed something similar?
BTW: Bootloader 1.11 is really fast flashing radio!!!
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Tests finished. It's not a radio behaviour; it's a AKU 3.3.1 behaviour. Does anybody knows how to deactivate it?
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Hope you have Hard-SPL installed...if not...you have bricked your device
Regards,
Primoz
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Not at all.
After 7% it reboot and that's it.. back to normal.
I can't install Hard-SPL for some reasons...
JY
jyavenard said:
Not at all.
After 7% it reboot and that's it.. back to normal.
I can't install Hard-SPL for some reasons...
JY
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I assume you cannot enter into OS if you don`t have HardSPL....cause if you can enter to OS you can repair it...
Regards,
Primoz
No Battery Drain here
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I noticed the battery drain too.
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My battery is holding charge just fine. My phone hasn't been plugged in since I left for lunch from work yesterday afternoon. I have used it to make several calls and emails since yesterday and it's still showing a full charge.
Of course I live in an area that has really good coverage as well, so my phone doesn't search for signal that much.
I can report the same... no noticed change to battery life.
I have noticed a massive change with battery life. Also i cant go a call more than 30sec with out it breaking up, never a problem before with 1.34
Anyone else experiencing this problem?
I have been running version 2.11 for the HTC Qtek (South Africa) on my imate JasJam, it was running 1.38.00.10
I upgraded the radio to 1.38.30.10, and three times in 24 hours now I've noticed that the jasjam was asking for my PIN code and had switched the phone off.
This never happened with the earlier 1.38.
Has anyone experienced something similar ?
Thanks
JY
No, not to me..
Maybe depends by the ROM installed..
I upgraded the Radio for 2 days and can tell the followings: -
The time required to search network in Hong Kong (3 HK) has been reduced and the signal is stronger than 1.38.00.10. However, I notice one problem, I tried to call my mobile a few times after the upgrade, and 2 out of 10 calls had been directed to voice mail (signal was strong at that time). Don't know it is the problem of this rom or I had that problem long ago (as I hadn't tried before to call myself so many time).
My Hermes is Currently on 1.51.00.10 with rom version 3.54.255.3
Battery is getting absolutely caned and service seems to be very patchy.
Has anyone else flashed their T Mobile Hermes? I know T won't be upgrading to 6, which is kinda lame.
I've got WM6 Black Satin and radio rom 1.43.00.00
Battery seems to be taking a beating with Bluetooth on as well.
Other than that it's totally brilliant.
Doogs.
I am on 1.50 that comes with the T Mobile WM6 (not for sale) Rom.
Seems to be working lovely and battery life fine bu I do use the streaming alot so purchased a nice cheap second battery on Ebay.
I've got 1.50 and Black Satin and find thats pretty much okay, helps if you do things like turn down the screen brightness and turn of 3G/HSDPA unless you absolutely need high speed data transfers.
GPRS works pretty well for my e-mail and web browsing.
I do love web n walk
I'm on schap's 3.60a and radio 1.50...battery does seem to get drained but i have 3g/hsdpa on all the time and syncing with windows live and exchange server. Do need to recharge th ebattery everyday.
Im with TMobile as well, Im currently on:
ROM: Black Dymond
Radio: 1.41.00.10
Location: London
I tend to charge my phone every evening, so cant comment on the battery life.
My reception kinda sucks though, any suggestions as to what the best radio version is?
I've been using 1.50 since it came out, and it's definitely a good 'un! The 3G/HSDPA signal works perfectly (1.51 doesn't work on 3G for T-Mob UK) and download speeds are generally 900kbps+ when the network isn't playing silly beggars. Call quality seems OK, but I don't actually use my phone for calls much. Battery life is fine, but again I play with it so much that I always charge every night.
Plus, the version number is higher than all the 1.4x ones, and everyone knows a higher version number is more important than almost anything else!!!
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(1.51 doesn't work on 3G for T-Mob UK)
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Really? That can't be right, stuff loads lightning fast when it actually works.
Actually the little 3G icon on the phone sometimes changes to an 'H' also. That kinda weirded me out.
I might try going back to something earlier.
I get the H icon appear but only get like 120kbit/s or 190 max?
Isnt 900 like you mention the above the equivilent of nearly a 10mb line or have i got my bytes and bits mixed up or something lol?
I switched from the official WM5 that came with the Vario II to the unofficial W6 with radio 1.50. At the beginning it was working ok, however battery life was about 50% of what it used to be, so not too great but ok.
Recently the phone part freezes more and more, especially when I try to dial, ‘dialing’ just hangs on the screen, and after a while I get a 'operation failed' balloon. The phone also looses signal quite often and switches between GPRS and 3G, although my office normally has excellent T-Mobile reception. Only soft resetting brings back the signal, and sometimes I even have to repeat this several times.
So this morning I switched to 1.48, but still seem to have the same problem loosing the signal.
Maybe I should just try installing the whole ROM again, cause I can’t figure out if a particular software is causing the problems. and it seems I'm the only one who has these problems.
One thing though, I am definitely 100% sure that this unofficial T-Mobile Rom was not intended for the Vario II. Maybe for the new Kaiser, but TM was and is definitely not working on updating old Window Mobile 5 devices already sold.
I have a similar pattern of poor reliability and battery drain emerging after a very good start with Radio 1.50. I can't see why this would happen though, it was originally very good and I have only installed one new app since then (SPB Time, which I took off again).
Currently almost all calls drop within 2 minutes and Internet Sharing is intermittent over 3G/H.
Anyone recommend a stable Radio for Tmob UK?
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I have a similar pattern of poor reliability and battery drain emerging after a very good start with Radio 1.50. I can't see why this would happen though, it was originally very good and I have only installed one new app since then (SPB Time, which I took off again).
Currently almost all calls drop within 2 minutes and Internet Sharing is intermittent over 3G/H.
Anyone recommend a stable Radio for Tmob UK?
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I went back to 1.46 and internet sharing is rock solid and it seems better with regards to holding a signal.
It's not perfect but pretty close, still have the occasional missed call without the phone ringing but thats exagerated because I am on a borderline 3g 3g area, batt life is good too.
Karzi said:
I went back to 1.46 and internet sharing is rock solid and it seems better with regards to holding a signal.
It's not perfect but pretty close, still have the occasional missed call without the phone ringing but thats exagerated because I am on a borderline 3g 3g area, batt life is good too.
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OK, I'm sold, I will have a go with it and report back.
I'm still using 1.27 tried 1.40.30 and 1.50 and a few others but although data was fine on them i had loads of people who couldn't get through to me, straight to answer phone or would ring there end but not mine. never had a problem with 1.27 but will keep trying the new ones
I have been using 1.50 since it came out and have not had any problems with it at all. Battery life is very good. Phone rings after 1-2 rings on the other end. No dropped calls due to my end.
Will look out for the problems people seem to be having here though.
I have just changed my UK T-Mobile MDA Pro for a Vario 2, and one of the first things I did was to flash it with the unofficial T-Mobile WM6 upgrade. After about a day, I started to experience lockups on the phone and GPRS. So I went back to WM5 (found a T-Mobile WM5 on the Wiki, albeit Hungarian!). That cured the lockups. The weird thing is that the radio remained as the upgraded 1.50.
My conclusion is, WM6 is not yet compatible with T-Mobile UK.
Hissing Syd said:
I have just changed my UK T-Mobile MDA Pro for a Vario 2, and one of the first things I did was to flash it with the unofficial T-Mobile WM6 upgrade. After about a day, I started to experience lockups on the phone and GPRS. So I went back to WM5 (found a T-Mobile WM5 on the Wiki, albeit Hungarian!). That cured the lockups. The weird thing is that the radio remained as the upgraded 1.50.
My conclusion is, WM6 is not yet compatible with T-Mobile UK.
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Syd, don't give up so easily on WM6! I've been using it since the first test ROMs surfaced - the main reason being I wanted to get rid of the daily lock-ups I was experiencing on WM5. I haven't had a lockup for months now, and can go several days without resetting the phone (generally do it whenever the available RAM figure gets lower than I'd like). The T-Mobile WM6 ROM was just a test ROM and as such may well have bugs. I'd suggest trying some of the Chef cooked ROMs over on the WM6 forum, or trying Pandora if you know what you want.
T-Mobile and WM6 make a wonderful partnership, believe me!
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Syd, don't give up so easily on WM6! I've been using it since the first test ROMs surfaced - the main reason being I wanted to get rid of the daily lock-ups I was experiencing on WM5. I haven't had a lockup for months now, and can go several days without resetting the phone (generally do it whenever the available RAM figure gets lower than I'd like). The T-Mobile WM6 ROM was just a test ROM and as such may well have bugs. I'd suggest trying some of the Chef cooked ROMs over on the WM6 forum, or trying Pandora if you know what you want.
T-Mobile and WM6 make a wonderful partnership, believe me!
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Confused Stu, Thanks for those encouraging words. I will indeed take the plunge again, and go for a cooked WM6 ROM. At the moment, I am torn between TNT 2.0 and Schap's Pro 3.6.
Thanks again for the reassurance.
I got my Vario II at the weekend so I can't really comment on improvement from the defaults, but I upgraded straight away to Schap's Pro 3.6 and the 1.50 radio and everything is stable.
I am thinking of changing to Black Satin though, just to see the difference.
Yet to really put the device through a tough test though, will let you know if I manage to get a day's use out of it when I'm caning it hard.
I've had 1.50 for about a month. It took me a while to realise I was NEVER getting 3G (I put it down to TM's flakey coverage at first!).
Also noticed I kept failing to get to the phone in time to answer calls (2-3 rings max) - At first I though my voicemail setting were too aggressive, then I tested by calling myself and realised it was ringing 2-3 times before the Hermes even woke up I put this down to the usual windows bloat at first but after reading here I see other people associate this problem with the radio firmware.
Oh, and battery life is appalling. Have been caught out several times, and it's down to 20-40% by the evening if I don't use it for anything. Definitely DOESN'T make it through the night if I forget to charge.
Just gotta work out which version to switch too... !
sim
PS schaps 3.60a
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
One of the issues which is commonly being reported is faster draining of battery life after upgrade to wm6.1. I am infering this not only by the postings in this Forum , but many other similar forums on the net.
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
1. Upgrade from wm6.0 to wm6.1 results in faster battery drain. I understand W6.1 upgrade is must and really makes your gene fast, However I could never calibrate/compare both these OS on the battery parameter.
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
3. Suprisingly and Interestingly- I also read (across some forums) even the SIM cards have also a role to play. HTC gene with SIM card of one teleoperator had different battery drain experience when compared to SIM of the other teleoperator.
4. SD card use may also affect the battery use.
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
techmate said:
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
This issue is being mainly reported by HTC Old gene users, if I am correct.
The reported reasons for faster battery drain are multiple. Few of them are
5. Even there is one suggestion, we should never flash a mobile when SIM is in. It may damage the SIM. Have anybody experienced this? I have flashed my gene mutliple times with always the SIM Card in HTC gene and I faced no issues (was I not doing the right thing)
All WM 6.1 users may have varied opinions on Battery life issue.
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I have always been flashing ROM with the SIM in the mobile...can someone confirm if we do have to remove the sim while flashing...
Sumit,ankit,Ramersonw whats your thought on this...
Flashing Correct Roms never damage sim cards. And the reason why SDCard is recommended to be removed is because in some firmware, mostly in old gene, the bootloader gets stuck when it enconters RUU connection from both cable as well as an SD Card, which as you might know can also be used to flash ROMs. this problem is not seen in New GENE (as far as i know). But sim cards have nothing to do with flashing, i can say this after 800+ flashes i have done.
Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
^I dont quiet agree with the battery thing. There is something wrong with the old gene XIP that chefs in this forum including me have got. Because, the problem doesnt exists on New Gene. I think, if we can find a WM 6 rom for old gene and then use its XIP to port 6.1 ROMs, battery problem will be solved. I am deeply investigating this issue and its got something to do with Filesystem drivers and filters, that i am sure. lets see
i think its just the Phone
hi
this is what i feel is the reason for batt life
i think it is about usage i think this is not designed for a person like me who is in sales and has heavy call in comming and outgoing i did not feel any batt problem when i was using non WM phone so may be WM os takes up a lot of batt is what i feel u see the whole of last week i was using my spare Motorola ( non WM)and the batt life was great 2 days and its an old mobile
so my feeling is this phone isnt made for heavy phone user its for light users who are at office and have the option of recharging the batt as an when they want
pls not im one of those guys who has changed my phone in every 6 months and the last one was this gene (hope i dont change again cant afford anymore )
the above is my feeling after using almost every brand of Non WM and now using WM phone
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Ya, you are correct I also did not face any issue flashing the ROM with SIM on. I mentioned this in my post, as I saw this one of the suggestion/view from someone on some forum.
BTW could anybody share has upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 seen substantial battery experience?
I find WM6.1 a much improved ROM , but is it correct that WM5 ROM are more battery friendly?
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No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
Sumit,
True something is amiss in ROM for OLD GENE. I find your V1.04 much battery friendly but a more sophisticated version V2.0 hard on battery.
Is it that newer builds may have some compatability/hardware issue with OLD Gene or some features actually not meant for OLD Gene are hard on battery life?
Remember HTC 3400 (OLD GENE) has only been launched with WM5.0 and officially no ROM upgrade has been given by them
People like you have and some great developers /contributors have kept the HTC gene live
BTW during these discussions if we are able to find some tweaks for battery issues that will be great and will really help all of us.
Sumit,
I am Agree with u. I also use my new Gene with Ur's 6.1 V2 R1, and also I am Is in sales and doing a lots of call, checking lotus Note Mail. My Battery Life is fine. It goes hole day..
techmate said:
Upgrade from wm5.0 to wm6.0 and then wm6.1 has been worth the effort and it has definitely given new lease of lief to HTC Gene- Both Old and New
2. Manilla ROMs eat the battery fast.
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Hi buddy i am just sharing my experience here i have tried lomlom's fusion ROM in the past ....i have been using it for at least a good 3 months or so which is a manila ROM and i have not seen any decrease in battery performance and to mention i have a OLD gene...so i don't think that Manila ROM's eat the battery fast...
Re: Battery Life Vs Network
One thing you guys are missing out is battery life is directly dependent on the signal strength, the worse the strength, the more battery the device will eat up, trying always to get a good signal. When I am travelling on train, my battery wont last even 12 hours . Even without talking. So take a note of that too. And my personal experience with AirTel is that network quality is very poor, as far as Kolkata goes, where as Vodafone has the best quality, so whenever I put in my Vodafone SIM, my battery life automatically increases. Please note that even if your signal is showing 100%, it may not be actual. As most of you must have noticed, the moment you make a call or recieve a call, signal strength drops (not always though). For example in my office (With airtel), the signal strength is always 100%, but to attend a call, everyone has to run out of the office .
You have a very good point there Shaunak
i think u did not get wat i meant @Krazy
hi
what i meant is their are 8XXX and 7xxx old gene mine is a 8xxx old gene
what i meant is pls chek if this batt problem is with the users of 8XXX old gene or 7XXX old gene because im having no battery problem with any of ur Prouser roms so thought if may be we can clear it out it might help u
its not about my phone and ur phone(we are both using 8xxx) im asking could it be about 8xxx and 7xxx old gene just a suggestion on an area we can chek on
krazy_about_technology said:
No Hari, that is not the case. I talk to my girlfriend hours with this phone, still i get 2 days of backup. Its just because of the battery issue we are having for old gene.
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@hari : Oh, i did not got what you intended. Sorry, and thanks for enlightening me
@everyone: Yeah, so far we have tried checked ONBL, SPL and GSM versions but they dont tell anything about which gene is having battery problems and which don't. I request people to try posting the serial nos also if they are having battery problem.
Registry tweaks for battery
Hi all,
I was wondering whether the various regsitry tweaks for battery power usage work. I found some of them while browsing some of the forums
As said while illustrating these tips " I owe No Responsibility for any damage"
I just found them on the forums, am using them and sharing them to you. I will share my experience and request you to use them at your own risk.
1. HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
2. HKLM\Comm\Irsir1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
3. HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
4. HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
5. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]
"DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 0
Good Luck.
These tweaks are already there in Schaps Advance Config Tool, just for enlightenment of everyone
Krazy thats great. I somewhow missed it. However I find by default these are disabled.
My experience is the tweaks work and are worth a try (enable the power management features).
Ya, by default for some strange reason, they are disabled. I'll try to find on the net if there is any reason for this. I have turned these on, and checking performance. Lets see.
BTW, .NET programmers here should check out a software called Pocket C#, its a compiler and IDE using which you can create .NET software on the phone itself, i really liked it. I made a small puzzle program using it on my phone itself
for starters ... want to apologize if people feel I should have posted in an existing thread rather than starting a new one. I have searched quite a bit and couldn't find an answer to the several questions I have. That said ...
I live in Bangalore India, and recently purchased a TP. It's an Idea Cellular branded model which in all the advertising is listed as a 7276 (though Device Info says 7272). The phone does not have a front facing camera, though it does have the Q7201a chip - so it should be capable of 3G.
The problems I'm facing are quite a few, and I'm wondering if it's Radio, ROM, carrier, etc.. and I'm hoping the members of this forum also in India can help point me in the right direction.
BTW - my phone is unlocked and I'm using Airtel in Bangalore.
a. battery life is aweful
b. wifi has poor signal strength and resets every couple minutes
c. GPS won't fix on a satellite
What ROM / Radio combination have you found to work well?
Have you gotten GPS to work.
If using Airtel have you gotten NOP or Airtel Live to work?
Do you use wifi successfully?
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A.
With the stock ROM the phone would run through it's battery in about 1/2 a day. Sitting on my nightstand with BT, WIFI, GPRS all turned off and not getting a single SMS or call, it would deplete by close to 20%.
I've tried a few other ROMs and have had various results ... the new HTC ROM is ok, but still BAD. Elite RC3 seemed better. AtomAng's newest and Energy ROM 2.0 31709 both chew through the battery pretty bad. When making/receiving a call or SMS the battery will deplete by 2~4%, but will otherwise be OK if sitting idle.
I'm suspecting it could be carrier related as I switch between Edge and GPRS constantly.
B.
Sitting within a meter of my Linksys Dual N router, I get 1mbps transmit and it resets every minute or so. If I walk upstairs, I can pretty much kiss my signal goodbye. With my VOX I could hold the signal no problem. This has been consistent with every ROM I have used.
C.
I have tried every hack and setting I can find on this one...
Using any tool I can see in the upwards of 16 satellites, but will never lock onto even a single one. I left my phone plugged in and sitting on the window ledge last night ... 3 hours and still not a single lock.
This is the 2nd handset from Idea as well ... the 1st one had audio problems and was replaced with a completely new handset.
Thanks for any help...I really want to like this phone, but right now I can't see me keeping it much longer.
---Rob
pics will help
Hi Rob,
If you send a couple of pics, me or someone else maybe able to give you better directions:
1. open the keyboard, take a pic of the whole device from the front
2. open the battery cover, remove the battery and take a pic, please black out the IMEI number before uploading this pic, I do not know any other sensitive info.
I have a suspicion it maybe a rebranded fuze, in that case flash the latest radio 1.12.25.19 and try EnergyROM 1.7 or for latest interface 2.0 (31809). But let me see the pics.
About GPS, I usually do not get a lock from a ROM until I download data in QuickGPS, try that. I think for our geographic location that matters.
Try NATF Roms
I was visiting India last month and was using my AT&T Fuze unlocked running NATF 4.2 ROM (now it is 4.4). I used idea, Airtel and CellOne all three providers and was able to get it to work flawlessly. The battery used to last 3 days on a single charge.
I did not test the GPS but did test the Wifi and BT and they work fine.
AT&T Fuze has a different keyboard layout than Touch Pro. So compare the keyboard layout and find the correct ROM and keyboard patch to use it in your phone.
i m using ROMeOS ROM and Radio 1.11.25.01 and it works perfectly fine....
for GPS, try GPS Test and some fixes available as Cabs....u can search for them in XDA........also use advance config tool and disable aGPS......
i usually get GPS lock in 10-20 seconds
on wifi signal, i cant comment, as i dont use it.........
on Battery usage, agree that battery on Touch Pro is awefull, but still i manage to end the day with 30-40 % charge after normal usage.....again search and find some tips and quick fixes, eg disabling 3g network etc etc
hope it helps you
do let me know, in case ne othr help needed
Hi,
I am also from Bangalore and am using an unlocked Fuze on the Airtel Network.
My Device : Fuze
My Radio : 1.12.25.19
Rom : Energy31709
I suggest you read up in this link by member Nvious regarding battery tips, these are working very well for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3411492&postcount=930
For better performance and stability i suggest use either Energy 1.5Final or RRE 4 Ver 2 final. Both are really good Roms and the other roms by the same chefs are really in beta stage and getting updated everyday.
Regarding GPS: the HTC GPS tool does the same for me. It can see 16 sats but doesnt lock on to one, but if you check with Chartcross Gps Test or on Google maps if you use the Use GPS function i do get an under 20sec lock and also 10 sats giving a very accurate location of me in the lawn(pretty accurate, inspite of the built in 30m error).
Hope this helps
Ice
Thanks for the quick replies ...
Tazzix
I'll get some pics out shortly...
...the keyboard has a top row of numbers so that would make it a TP. However, it's missing the front camera && it comes default with 3G turned off. Some kind of weird hybrid.
I'm currently on Energy ROM 2.0 build 31809, and just flashed the 1.12.25.19 radio an hour ago ... did the rilphone2.dll copy w/a regedit. Battery is absolutely horrible now ... a 30 min call sucked my batter by 35%.
chicagomce
Yeah, the keyboard is a TP not FUZE keyboard.
Kingjack
I've been using Adv. Config from day 1, and have done every hack for power savings I could find on xda & other HTC sites (enabled power management for everything, turned off GPRS & 3G, sleep after 1 min, keep BT and WiFi off unless I'm using it...). It's the weirdest thing ... I literaly lose 2~4% of battery each and every time I get an SMS or send one ... call drain the battery at about 1% per minute.
Ice
Interesting thing about the 1.12.25.19 radio ... I now 'find' 16 satellites in about 2 seconds, but still won't lock onto a single one - let google, HTC GPSTool, Visual GPSce and ChartCross all have a crack at it, and the result is the same ... 16 satellites get spotted but nothing will lock no matter how long I let it sit (even with QuickGPS updated no more than a minute before
each test).
When you use Google Maps does it ever go away from Seeking GPS satellites (0)? I've noticed my location is pretty much on the spot, but I thought that was because of the information passed on
Thanks for the tip on the battery link ... I already do that and a lot more, so nothing stood out as a culprit.
I'm really missing my VOX : (
---Rob
1. The rilphone is already cooked into Energy 31 series for 1.12.25.19 in energy roms as far as i know .....so messing with it may not be a good idea...unless you really know what you are doing.
2. yes it shows 10 in the brackets for me like this Satt....(10). When you say accurate how accurate is it?.
If i let my data connection do my position in google maps it points me to the location of the nearest tower which is 600m away, however when i say use gps it gives my location as my lawn from where i try it.
I get 24 to 48 hrs out of my Battery.
Hi,
I am using TP in Delhi through Vodafone since last month. And I am using original ROM/Radio till now -
ROM : 1.95.720.2 WWE
Date : 10/21/08
Radio : 1.02.25.28
I dont feel battery is that horrible as you explained... I browse internet extensively, and do spend atleast an hour talking on phone.... But by the end of the day battery remains till 30-40%... which I think is good. If I dont use wifi, its even better.
Also wifi works like a charm for me... i am able to see a complete 7 mins. youtube video or download something/read news without any connectivity break....
However, I have not been able to successfully listen to local FM till now. Has anybody got that solved (in india).
Thanks
MS
Hey MS...
Did you get a TP from out of country or did you get one of the Idea Cellular branded models?
BTW - Radio has worked for me no problem in bangalore...plug in the headset and it finds several stations...pretty good reception as well.
---Rob
Hi Rob,
I bought it in Noida only. And I dont think it is that idea branded model (how do I find out that ?)....
Only thing is that I didnt flash any ROM on this yet... just believed on the existing ROMs, used many tweaks listed in this forum... And it is running pretty good.
I couldnt get my FM radio working till yet... It is just unable to find any radio station, while there are many (ofcourse with headset plugged it). Dont know what could be the reason.
- MS
Hey Tazzix,
Here are a couple pics my friend with a BB Bold took at lunch - sorry they're blurry. The amazing onion dosa must have gotten us crazy ; >
External 7276.jpg is clear enough to see the std TP (not FUZE) style keyboard and no FF camera.
Internal 7276.jpg shows under the battery.
SN: HT845L00063
PN: 99HEY088-00
Just to the side of where the MicroSD slot is
Date 080608
Rev B01
Screen 2.jpg is the Device Info HW screen
Screen 3.is the about screen
I'm willing to screen capture or dump any part of my reg people would find helpful in troubleshooting this with me.
BTW - I purged EnergyRom 2.0 31809 this morning ... I love the UI but battery life when to S**T - which is weird, because I'd assume there is nothing in his ROM which would cause this kind of problem. Right now, I'm back on the latest official HTC ROM and battery life is back to 'dissapointing but acceptable'.
I wonder now...as I don't think the ENERGY series of ROMs comes with a radio if the rilphone.dll is correct for the 10.11.25.01 radio?.?.?.?
Anybody think I may have luck security unlocking the phone and load the blackstone radio? Many people rave about it.?.?.?.?
---Rob
Weird, no RAPHnnn?!
Hi Rob,
I would have had paneer dosa instead but unfortunately no dosa place here in Islamabad
Its weird that there is no RAPHnnn e.g. RAPH110 (FUZE) there. Anyways, in my opinion radio plays a part in battery life. I tried to refrain from flashing, and specially radio although my device is Security Unlocked. But the battery did not last a whole day so I first flashed to 20M1 then .01 and now to 12.25.19 and found the last one to be the best, I get 2 days of normal usage. You can try different radios to see which one suites you best but I never tried a radio from another device.
As far as the ROM OS goes it depends on your usage, I hate the 6.5 chrome UI. Always used M2D or full manila on older devices too, but the new manila is simply awesome in my view. I want to see minimum of the Windows UI, except when using Word, Excel, PP, or other business apps. So the new manila keeps me in stylus-free interface similar to the main screen, and the Energy ROMs are really stable, fast and NRGZ28 is constantly fixing any thing he can find.
Look at the different screenshots and give the ROMs a try, you find to your liking.
More on the battery, I ordered a 2000 mAh battery from seidoonline.com because I want two days of heavy usage like I get from my Nokia E90.
All the best.
When I bought mine the box it came in had a BIG yellow Idea Cellular label on it, and the carrier boot screen also comes up with the big yellow Idea logo.
With my radio I get about 8 stations reliably.
BTW - UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
About 2 hours ago I flashed the new HTC Asian WWE and guess what ... battery life is fine, wifi is connecting at 54mbps & GPS works. I about fell over when I was walking around and saw the lock happen.
For what it's worth, this ROM has fixed all my problems ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494603
I would love to know what is so wildly different about this ROM ... there has got to be something...the default ROM was awful the official HTC ROM from a couple weeks ago was only 'ok'.
Absolutely Rock Solid
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
crlowryjr said:
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
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Nice to hear from you ROB.... basically its based on asian customers which might differ from other countries you are getting best results....Myself tried the ROM & it's work fine so thinking of making ROM out of this base (With sahzad may be) with out much tweaking ....only stripping unwanted things & program me folder well organized easy access to often used application. By the way may i know which part of bangalore you reside in.....
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out of this which one you are using
Asia-English
ROM version: 5.07.707.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
HK-English
ROM version: 5.07.831.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
SinTel-English
ROM version: 5.07.871.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
If it is ROM version: 5.07.707.2 could you give me the s/n used to download it
crlowryjr said:
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
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Congrats, its nice to hear that you are happy now with this amazing device. And the choice of ROMs is one thing which I like about WM thanks to great chefs around here at XDA-dev.
it is 5.07.707.2 WWE ... I got it off a mirror from the original thread (my SN didn't work either).
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
Henke001 said:
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
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Hi, Henke001,
I also have same TP with vodafone in Delhi. And I could successfully update my phone with custom roms EnergyRom Phoenix2/Leo.
The phone do have 3G, though the service provider doesnt provide the support for it. I have no idea about front camera, does anyone has any idea on how do I check about this one.
Thanks
Henke001 said:
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
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Hi, Henke001,
I also have same TP with vodafone in Delhi. And I could successfully update my phone with custom roms EnergyRom Phoenix2/Leo.
The phone do have 3G, though the service provider doesnt provide the support for it. I have no idea about front camera, does anyone has any idea on how do I check about this one.
Thanks