[Q] Looking for the smallest and lightest rom - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, im looking for a wimo rom only to start an android rom so the wimo rom needs to be very small very light whit allmost nothing in there
thanks, Itay Sharoni

+1, been looking for the same thing, the one that loads the quickest and it's Android FroyoSense 2.2 compatible, first of all.

Since Android runs 100% on the SD card, it actually doesn't matter about the size of the Windows ROM. So, with that in mind I'd recommend the latest official ROM as it boots far faster than any other ROM I've seen.
Sent from my iPhone 5 beta using the XDA App

LOL @ iPhone 5 beta, what else can they invent?
My stock ROM was taking a *LOT* longer than the one I'm using now (OzDroid) so not sure why. What stock rom build # you have?

The latest stock ROM is 3.14. I don't actually use it at all, so I can't say whether it's good or bad. I'm just impressed with the boot speed.

johncmolyneux said:
The latest stock ROM is 3.14. I don't actually use it at all, so I can't say whether it's good or bad. I'm just impressed with the boot speed.
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Kewl, will give it a try. OzDROID boots in like 1 second, you should try it. I'm sure you will find it quite fast booting. It's like instant, plus I found a blog on how to run CF apps in the HKLM/Init where I wrote my own CLRCAD/HARET Launcher. Turns out you have to write a "gate app" that depends on GWES, then your app depend on the gate app so you don't get Exception message using CF libraries... It works...
Code:
http://blog.opennetcf.com/ctacke/2009/04/15/AutolaunchingCFAppsWithTheHKLMInitRegistryKey.aspx

Miri XtraLight v.25
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1786

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What ROM do you guys recommend?

I have a Touch Pro (CDMA/Sprint) coming in next week, and when it gets here, one of the first things I would like to do is put a new ROM on it.
I currently have a Mogul (also with a custom ROM), but I am out of the loop when it comes to the Touch Pro.
All of the ROM's in the official Wiki are under the GSM heading (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.1_ROMs), so no help there.
So, what ROM would you guys recommend?
Juggalos as well.
I have been loading roms on my touch pro all day. I would have to say juggalo's rom is the fastest and most stable. definitely recommend it.
Mine ;c)
If your on VZW!
www.scottcrosler.com for details!
I also got a beta 6.5 IM going to post shortly if anyone wants to play (VZW!)
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I went ahead and downloaded Juggalo's rom which I found over at ppcgeeks, but I will also have a look at what you've got "cookin" scrosler.
I liked Juggalo's ROM, but it was a bit too buggy for me. I found Juicy 4.7 to be the best ROM out right now for the Sprint Touch Pro
MightyROM 4.9
Its perfect!
And stay away from WM6.5 unless you either:
1. Know how to fix it.
2. Enjoy headaches.
FYI: Juicy is no longer supported.
I also like MightyRom and currently run 4.9.1 (the latest). Juggalo was fine until my WiFi started turning itself on for no reason. It could be something I have done and not the rom, but I run the same configuration on mightyrom and it never happened.
Ultimately, you should try them all and see which one you like more yourself.
Jugallo work fine for my telus and its quite an improvement over the stock rom. Not sure what other rom run for telus anyway.
Running Juggalo's on my Telus Touch Pro. No problems yet....
Imunalia said:
Running Juggalo's on my Telus Touch Pro. No problems yet....
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where do you download that rom .. got a link?
yes I got two phone ...
Check that forum for Raphael CDMA Rom : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=68
juicy 4.7 all the i have tried all other roms and for some reason i seem to keep going back to it it has been the fastest and stable you can still get it just google it
Psycho77 said:
Check that forum for Raphael CDMA Rom : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=68
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Thank you...
I've downloaded other ROMs, but always come back to Juggalo's........best out there for my needs.
I have a stock ROM, would getting Juggalo's ROM delete every other programs I have installed in phone and also contact lists and etc.?
DoMiNiKiNG947 said:
I have a stock ROM, would getting Juggalo's ROM delete every other programs I have installed in phone and also contact lists and etc.?
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Yes. Uploading a new ROM to your phone will erase anything that isn't part of the ROM. Programs will need to be reinstalled, but don't you just sync your contacts with your PC?
Juicy 4.7. Blazing fast and no crazy looking theme to boot.
ycats said:
I've downloaded other ROMs, but always come back to Juggalo's........best out there for my needs.
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Yeah, me too...
MightyROM 4.9.3 actually beats Juicy's 4.7.
Amazing.

Benefits of gettin MoDaCo?

My current build is one of those Asian ones that are locked/disabled from upgrading or downgrading.
Build: 2.73.721.9 146733 CL#62020
Firmware Version: 1.5
Baseband: 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18
I currently cannot do any upgrading or change of ROM because of it being locked. I know that I have to use the GoldCard method.
I'm on the edge of the fence deciding whether I should root my Asian HTC Hero to a MoDaCo 3.1.
I have been looking up about these ROM changes and wonder to myself what are the goods behind changing to MoDaCo.
Is 3.1 a lot faster than my current ROM? (anybody changed to modaco from an Asian phone with my same build?)
This is my current concern, Is it worth the hassle to get MoDaCo?
Thanks for clearing me up and possibly bring me to a better world of ROMs.
theres no harm in rooting... you can always revert back to the stock ROM if you feel that MoDaCo's 3.1 ROM is slower.. but to tell you the truth, its actually quite fast
Well I finally did it last week and I also had the "asian" HTC hero which could not get root the one click way....I had to make a goldcard and went through the whole process...
anyways after installing modaco 3.1, I was a bit disappointed...yes it is a bit faster than the original Rom but there are certain bugs that made me regret the move
All this said,the guys at modaco did a great job on the Rom...I give that to them...
but for some reason my phone is a little less responsive...
I have not experience any bugs or slowness or anything with Modaco. On any ROM, stock or custom, if you're running 7 widgets on 7 screens you're bound to find some "slowness".
im asian version too. i using modaco rom with a faster speed.
if u decide to root & flash custom rom, would you mind do a nandroid backup before u flash custom rom & send me a copy? thanks in advance =)
e.japonica said:
im asian version too. i using modaco rom with a faster speed.
if u decide to root & flash custom rom, would you mind do a nandroid backup before u flash custom rom & send me a copy? thanks in advance =)
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I don't think a nandroid dump generated from another Hero to put into yours would be a good idea, because (i am not 100% sure) of the fact that, each device has its own IMEI which might be stored in part of the rom (maybe in hboot?)
kazuni said:
I don't think a nandroid dump generated from another Hero to put into yours would be a good idea, because (i am not 100% sure) of the fact that, each device has its own IMEI which might be stored in part of the rom (maybe in hboot?)
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it will conflict my hero? or it will over write my IMEI? awww... coz i was accidentally delete my own backup =.=" as i cant manage to find singapore version of RUU.
here's a few reasons to pick MoDaCo
1) minimal battery drain (and I mean MINIMAL)
2) no process errors
3) super fast
4) completely customizable
5) market works (just a problem I have with eclair roms lately)
berger34 said:
here's a few reasons to pick MoDaCo
1) minimal battery drain (and I mean MINIMAL)
2) no process errors
3) super fast
4) completely customizable
5) market works (just a problem I have with eclair roms lately)
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+1 on this
berger34 said:
here's a few reasons to pick MoDaCo
1) minimal battery drain (and I mean MINIMAL)
2) no process errors
3) super fast
4) completely customizable
5) market works (just a problem I have with eclair roms lately)
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I don't know much details to each point. The eye catching one is point 3 and 1.
I have never tried on a Modaco Hero and therefore cannot compare to stock speed and batter usage.
How fast is super fast? lol Is it completely lagless and instant response when a button is pressed? I do noticed sometimes it takes about 0.5s for a thing to load up afterpressing button
Batter drain minimal. How much improvement on battery do I get? For ex., it used to take me 3 days to drain a battery before charge; now I takes 5 days under the same usage behavior.
Thank you
3.2b5 is a dream to use compared with stock Rom....also with the latest memory chaging facility the phone flies like the wind. Not had any errors at all...rooting was the best thing i done for this phone...it just does not make sence that android/htc cant do the same for stock roms.....cant wait for 2.1 with the added functionality...
sheridan2000 said:
3.2b5 is a dream to use compared with stock Rom....also with the latest memory chaging facility the phone flies like the wind. Not had any errors at all...rooting was the best thing i done for this phone...it just does not make sence that android/htc cant do the same for stock roms.....cant wait for 2.1 with the added functionality...
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did u do this on a Asian hero?
i will void warrenty if i root the phone, can i go back to stock ROM after chaging to modaco so i get my warranty back if it ever breaks?
so the stock ROM is really slow? I haven't used other roms so I don't know if mine is slow or what. It does lag sometimes when I have a few apps updating
I've finally decided to Root, and prepared myself for a long day, because i had to downgrade, create a gold card etc..
BUT! Everything went much smoother than i thought.
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-root-your-htc-hero-in-one-click/
this guide is now updated, and I can confirm that it works for the latest HTC build. Do it people!
I can't say that I feel there is alot of difference between Modaco and Stock, at least for me, but APP2SD worth it alone.

[Q] Fastest ROM for the HERO?

Hey there. I've been running VillainROM 1.5 Froyo for about 2 weeks, and is quite dissapointed of the speed. It's to laggy, even when I'm just writing a SMS. So, i was woundering, what ROM is the fastest? i dont seek any android version under 2.0 - Thanks!
Have you tried flashing flykernel over the top of froyd? I found that helped - but only the 528/352 kernel.
I currently use Elelinux 2.2 stock with the default 528/352 - well smooth, but I find that if I go any higher than 576 flykernel the phone becomes laggy.
Higgsy said:
Have you tried flashing flykernel over the top of froyd? I found that helped - but only the 528/352 kernel.
I currently use Elelinux 2.2 stock with the default 528/352 - well smooth, but I find that if I go any higher than 576 flykernel the phone becomes laggy.
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Don't know what that means
Elelinux for me too. It comes with the kernal so no need to worry about that. Lag could be helped by full wipe. Elelinux has now released a lighter version which may be even faster. Keep caches clean and overclock to what works best for your hero : )
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
I'm also using the Elelinux Froyo 2.2 ROM, so far so good
Much quicker than the 2.1 i was running.
So far no breakdowns.
I'm using elelinux's Froyo 2.2 Special Edition release and my phone is faster than it's ever been.
Apparently I can't post links to other threads. That's dumb!
I am using RCmix (experimental), its very fast, and I had no problems with it. The only problem is that it drains the battery quite fast, but still a excellent rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702398
2.1 HTC sense,
timbohobbs said:
Elelinux for me too. It comes with the kernal so no need to worry about that. Lag could be helped by full wipe. Elelinux has now released a lighter version which may be even faster. Keep caches clean and overclock to what works best for your hero : )
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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how do i know what to overclock it to+
Try without overclock, the Rom is fast anyway so you may not need it. It can be trial and error, search the forum for set CPU, you can download set CPU for free there too: )
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
ok firstly he said fastest
i would put money on none of them roms match the speed and smoothness of sensehero b5.1
it just lacks some of the new cool stuff people go on about which after a week you wont use it anyway so id say sensehero
VillainROM12 with Flykernel overclocked to 729MHz (by SetCPU, scaling mode=performance). Very fast and stable.
jackhab said:
VillainROM12 with Flykernel overclocked to 729MHz (by SetCPU, scaling mode=performance). Very fast and stable.
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Okay, first of all, i don't know **** abour all that overclocking and all that. I'm just a newbie who learned how to root my htc and install another rom. And when people say "Overclock" i think, "Well, can't it break it i overclock it, like a computer processor?" - So, i need one to tell me exactly which rom, and everything i need to do to get it to run fast and stable. I hope someone can help
nicolajreck said:
Okay, first of all, i don't know **** abour all that overclocking and all that. I'm just a newbie who learned how to root my htc and install another rom. And when people say "Overclock" i think, "Well, can't it break it i overclock it, like a computer processor?" - So, i need one to tell me exactly which rom, and everything i need to do to get it to run fast and stable. I hope someone can help
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Knowing how to install a ROM is enough. Installing custom kernel is pretty much the same: get a zip file (in this case it is FlyKernel-11c #66 (Generic) from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730471), put in on your SD card, boot into recovery and apply the zip.
Then you install SetCPU application which allows you to change the maximum frequency of your phone's CPU. No tech knowledge is required: it has a slider to set it. The higher the frequency the faster your phone will go but setting it too high might get it unstable (apps closing, device freeze). You just need to experiment to get to the highest frequency possible.
Oveclocking cannot damage your phone (it's not like PC overclocking when people usually also raise the CPU voltage).
Get VillainROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715728
Good luck
jackhab said:
Knowing how to install a ROM is enough. Installing custom kernel is pretty much the same: get a zip file (in this case it is FlyKernel-11c #66 (Generic) from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730471), put in on your SD card, boot into recovery and apply the zip.
Then you install SetCPU application which allows you to change the maximum frequency of your phone's CPU. No tech knowledge is required: it has a slider to set it. The higher the frequency the faster your phone will go but setting it too high might get it unstable (apps closing, device freeze). You just need to experiment to get to the highest frequency possible.
Oveclocking cannot damage your phone (it's not like PC overclocking when people usually also raise the CPU voltage).
Get VillainROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715728
Good luck
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Thanks for that detailed answer. But even that isn't enough, need instructions one by one
Just flash the Elilinux 2.2 ROM.
You won't be disappointed
Don't think anything, don't hear to anyone.. just do this..
go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784689
and then just download, the rom.. and wipe everything... and just flash!!
you will be amaiged to see this, battery is best, fast, everything is perfect (9.9/10 )
Goto the Android Touch development section. Find [ Guide ] Complete newbie guide to rooting and installing roms by btdag. HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253
I was in your shoes 4 weeks ago, and now I've flashed 5 roms. 2 kernels. Countless themes and a font or 3. Seriously that guide is simple and easy to learn.
As for roms, I've only tried 5, so I'm certainly no expert but I've found them all to be very close speed wise. Stability wise, floyo,froyo and villian roms seem to edge out ( but only by a little, they are all good ).
Readers digest: read the above thread, then read it again. The put all three of the above mentioned roms on you SD card. Try them all. Once you know the steps in that thread, switching roms is a breeze. That thread includes step by step instructions.
Good luck. Msg me if you have question i'll be happy to help. I was there in your shoes just a month ago and know how frustrating it can be.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

[Q] A couple of questions :-)

Hello i am new to the X10 forum, just got the handset second hand, but in super condition, the other day and i must say i is really growing on me!
Being a former, Htc hd2, galaxy tab, htc magic owner i have done allot of tweaking to my devices, so i started of with rooting my x10, putting on jit, deleting a ton of apps and so on, and i must say it is running great now with dual touch and all.
But i see there is a newer firmware out there and also a froyo rom (which i might wait on getting til everything works).
when i check about phone, i currently get this information:
Firmware version: 2.1 update 1
Baseband version: 2.0.46
Kernel version: 2.6.29 [email protected] #1
Build number: 2.0.A.0.504
so here comes the questions:
1) What is the newest version of 2.1 i should look for? ( a link would be great )
2) Will there be any major changes?, i looked abit around and it seemed that its mostly about battery life and so? i got about 32 hours last full circle with 17 procent left when i recharged it.
3) I am trying to use "setcpu" but i am not sure it is allways running since it dosent always show up in my app killer program, is there a way to make it run allways?
4) Another program i am using for the first time is APNdroid, i am not really sure about, and the question goes, does it do anything automaticly? or is it only a switch (the widget) for turning on or off all wireless radios? same thing with this as with "setcpu" i dont feel sure that it is running?
5) Is there a work around to get the camera working in froyo? using a third party app maybe? is there other disadvantages and is there a way to get the Sony E wallpapers loaded to the rom ? ( i actually really like the cosmetic chances of the X10s android)
I thank you for taking a bit of your time, i am glad to be back at xda with my phone, just had to sell my Nokia n8 since i just missed xda and all the fun too much
1) What is the newest version of 2.1 i should look for? ( a link would be great )
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If you're referring to firmware, Then 2.1 Generic Firmware (2.1.A.0.435) is the latest as of now. You can update using the flashtool. (Try searching the forum for tutorial)
2) Will there be any major changes?, i looked abit around and it seemed that its mostly about battery life and so? i got about 32 hours last full circle with 17 procent left when i recharged it.
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Well yeah Timescape has landscape mode, Smoother unlock, HTC keyboard.
PS: I tried to do my part of help I can, I am really unsure of other questions. You can wait for others to help you out buddy!
it's portrait and landscape mode*
3) I am trying to use "setcpu" but i am not sure it is allways running since it dosent always show up in my app killer program, is there a way to make it run allways?
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use it as a widget,you will see it always then
4) Another program i am using for the first time is APNdroid, i am not really sure about, and the question goes, does it do anything automaticly? or is it only a switch (the widget) for turning on or off all wireless radios? same thing with this as with "setcpu" i dont feel sure that it is running?
5) Is there a work around to get the camera working in froyo? using a third party app maybe? is there other disadvantages and is there a way to get the Sony E wallpapers loaded to the rom ? ( i actually really like the cosmetic chances of the X10s android)
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camera works great,video cam is not working ,we use cam illusion as a alternate
Thanks guys
I might go for froyo, just dosent look as good as SE custom blueish skin, but i guess the speed is worth it. would love those wallpapers though.
Is the froyo batterilife worse? ( i am thinking the SE rom is optimized for the device while froyo is not?)
Okaj now i really need some help did a really unwise thing, was not intentionaly just forgot to flash newest baseband radios
well i flashed froyo without the newest baseband and now it just keeps restarting and restarting with the freex10 logo, is there any way i can get the phone to talk with the computer so i can flash the newest baseband?
i allready tryed the factory restore, don tknow why i didnt think of backing up or something so foolished mistake.
if anyone can point me to some help i would be glad.
Download newest flashing software for x10
>>>HERE<<<
Also get yourself a copy of the newest FW with new baseband >>>HERE<<<
The second link should give you the required file to use with the new flash software.
Just put the files in Firmware folder of your Flash software install location and hunt out the simple instructions.
When you have done press the Root option on your flash software and install xrecovery and titanium backup.
Instructions for flashing to the 2.2 froyo beta 4 are in the development section but make sure you use xrecovery to wipe user data before you flash it.
I'm guessing thats why you semi-bricked your X10 last time.
Hey i got it up running by loading v3 of froyo, so now i can just flash the newest, and then v4 i hope so at least but thanks
oh i see so the flashing it will give me newest baseband super thanks
simon2901 said:
oh i see so the flashing it will give me newest baseband super thanks
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If you can't make it, check howto thread
I did manage to get a hold on it, feel in control now thank you by the way does anyone any good "skins" /"Themes" ( not sure what its called) for froyo on it?

[Q] Should I risk a custom ROM and Kernel?

Hey all,
Today, I'll be picking up my new P500, after deciding to get a phone before my trip away.
I was considering flashing franco's rom and kernel combo, but seeing as I leave tomorrow, would it be worth the risk? This would be my first attempt at anything like this, and while I know I can get it to work eventually, would the benefits outway the risk of not having a proper functioning phone in time for my trip?
I'd be using my phone for video and music playback, and some pic taking, while keeping me connected to Facebook the whole time, if my priorities make a difference.
if u are good with nerd stuff, do it.
or stay away! u wud end up asking ur friend for a spare phone
with this phone yes absolutely it makes a amazing performance difference with the right ROM and kernels
The answer: YES.
It's pretty easy, root with gingerbreak, install a recovery, make a nandroid and that's it! Now jflash a nice rom/kernel combo and you will benefit of a much better battery life and performance overall. Enjoy!
Btw, welcome to the party here
sure the feeling of constant crashes and a bricked phone (that used to work perfectly on stock) is awesome.
I suggest this:
use your stock phone for a little while, get used to it, and then flash a custom rom and see the differences; you won't want to go back again
22VIN said:
I suggest this:
use your stock phone for a little while, get used to it, and then flash a custom rom and see the differences; you won't want to go back again
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Yeah, it's the better thing IMHO... I used the stock ROM for about two weeks, then i tried to flash some custom kernels and then i flashed a new rom...
onlymeipse said:
Yeah, it's the better thing IMHO... I used the stock ROM for about two weeks, then i tried to flash some custom kernels and then i flashed a new rom...
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+ 1. You will find the diff only after you use the stock, other-wise you may not like it.
nikhil4186 said:
sure the feeling of constant crashes and a bricked phone (that used to work perfectly on stock) is awesome.
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I've never had a single crash on my O1 since at least 3 months. You must be getting something (or everything) wrong.
Vip_blast said:
I've never had a single crash on my O1 since at least 3 months. You must be getting something (or everything) wrong.
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Well that depends on how many beta things you try
Go, no problem at all, it's easy. You can try what you want and you can always come back.
It's good to install a custom ROM and Kernel, I use [ROM] devoid. #froyo-final & franco kernel. Very fast, smooth .
If you just get the phone new, I will recommend your stay with the original firmware. That way you dont have to worry about it during your trip, and you will have something to reference to when you try the custom ROM/kernel later.
Okay, here's my personal opinion. Having bought my Optimus T (P509) brand new in November the week it came out, I had no option but to keep the original firmware for a while. It's not that bad. It's very stable, and it honestly isn't that slow. I was only getting about 460 on my quadrant, and I was disappointed, but quadrant has come to mean nothing. Despite my consistent 1000+ quadrant scores on other ROM's, I was disappointed with the appearance. Appearance has come to mean almost everything to me now. This all being said, I would advise keeping the stock for a while and messing with ADW Launcher (found in the market for free) and some of it's themes. Although it's totally worth the minimal risk of bricking, as has been previously stated, you'll fully appreciate custom ROM's more if you keep the original ROM for a time.
Go Launcher Ex will give you a great overhaul as well on stock ROM.
now day it is very easy to:
1. root Use GingerBreak, just click and click reboot, all done.
2. Install recovery, For 1st recovery u can use ungaze zip and terminal emulator with very short command for Amonra, or use Rom manager to install CwM.
3. Flashing Custom Rom, just go to recovery Wipe all and then Flash it.
its just take 1-2 hour to finish that... very different with me when i install Custom Recovery on Last Feb... you must use ADB.
cupliz said:
now day it is very easy to:
1. root Use GingerBreak, just click and click reboot, all done.
2. Install recovery, For 1st recovery u can use ungaze zip and terminal emulator with very short command for Amonra, or use Rom manager to install CwM.
3. Flashing Custom Rom, just go to recovery Wipe all and then Flash it.
its just take 1-2 hour to finish that... very different with me when i install Custom Recovery on Last Feb... you must use ADB.
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Well yes it is, but the main idea is that he won't understand the pros and cons of a custom rom if he doesn't get to really know his stock phone.
For example when I bought my phone I couldn't find a reason to mod it. I was coming from Symbian & WinMo and I was perfectly happy with the phone the way it was; only after I got bored with it and got tired with it being rather slow I decided to mod it and I could perfectly see and understand all the differences.
Why am I telling this? Because he's asking if he should risk moding it. The answer is no, you shouldn't risk this if you're happy with it the way it is now and if you can't tell all the differences and improvements.
Grow some balls and do it ours worth out trust new lol
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
22VIN said:
Well that depends on how many beta things you try
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And how about I have tried almost all of them? I'm even testing Ciaox's ThunderSense Rom. We're not talking about testing here, he isn't here to be a beta tester. He can just use stable roms like devoid.final and enjoy his phone.
And yes I do agree, he should use his phone for some time before rooting to really feel the benefits of customs, unless he already had an android phone before.

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