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Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
pof said:
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
I just bought a used 8125. The device was suppose to be standard, but when it arrived it had WM 6.1 custom rom from newbie1221. I also noticed that it is a G4.
IPL 2.1.0001
SPL 2.1.01ip
So is it safe to assume the device is CID unlocked?
Is it safe to flash This Romas it doesn't include ipl/spl?
How will the UK radio work since I'm in the US? My current Radio version is 2.25.11
How can I tell if it's wwe?
It says it's WM 6.1 but I'm confused by this
5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 (AKU 1.0 )
OS: 11.0.1.0 << as you know, 11.x.x.x is for TNT Series or based on
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Does this mean it's not 6.1?
Please be patient with me it's been a while since I've had WM device. The wiki helped me a lot.
Heya man, welcome to the fold....you can tell if your device has WM6.1 on it by going to START->Settings->System->About, and at the top is will say OS:Windows Mobile 5.0/6/6.1, depending on what you have. Since your IPL/SPL is already Olip'ed, then yes, your device IS indeed CID unlocked....but if you havent done so already, I would download the excellent Wizard Tool availible up here at XDA-Dev and SIM unlock your device aswell. To answer your other question, you should be fine with flashing a different rom, as long as it DOES NOT contain an Extended ROM partition OR IPL/SPL.
No, G4 is always CID locked, regardless you used HardSPL or not (HardSPL only tricks the RUU program, you can always check the CID lock status using WST)
Yes, it's safe to flash any ROMs that doesn't include IPL and SPL.
For the Radio, all Radio ROMs has support for all GSM modes supported by Wizard hardware, just try to see if it gives a better reception.
TNT roms are always WWE (you can see the screenshots, it is always WWE if it is an English ROM)
5.2.19xxx is WM6.1 ROM. TNT used its own versioning in ROM, so don't count on that.
So all that HardSPL'ing a device does is trick the RUU? Didnt know that, I thought that it actually "unlocked" the phone, like we do over in the excalibur forums lol
starkwong is absolutely correct and I endorse it!
Thanks for all the help. I downloaded WST it shows it was Sim unlocked but I have no way of testing. WST shows that the phone is HardSPL. When I try to flash any Roms I get a Error 300 message. So I used the RUU MUN worked perfectly. The phone is my wifes & she is very happy. Thanks again for all the help. The Wizard may be old but it runs great.
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
vma
I am newbie with X7500
vma said:
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
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I think is correct.
vma said:
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
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SPL 3.5 is for ROMs adapted from X7510 (but not for X7510)
vma said:
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
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Yes.
vma said:
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
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Yes.
vma said:
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
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You must make superCID in your X7500 (>>>SPL1.2)
vma said:
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
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I think ROM for SPL3.5 in SPL1.x and for SPL1.x in SPL 3.5
Thanks for the resonse.
So here is the sum up for all Newbies like myself:
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The Hitchiker's Guide to understanding SPL on Athena
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1) SPL = second stage bootloader
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
3) Athena 7510 is originally shipped with SPL 3.5
4) for different firmware to be loaded, one need a hacked SPL, that allows flashing unsigned firmware
5) There is a modified SPL 3.5 for the Athena 7500 that allows WM6.x firmware, ported from the Athena 7510 to run on the 7500
6) SPL 1.2 and 3.5 are incompatible, regarding firmware, due to the different amount of memory reserved for the ROM. A SPL 1.2 firmware won't run on SPL 3.5 and the other way around, neither. Trying to do so, will make the black screen or reset loop happen.
7) to get SPL 1.2 Olipro (the hacked one), you need to do the UNLOCKER procedure (search sticky)
8) to get SPL 3.5 Olipro, you need to install AP 4.0 (it's a WM6.1 firmware, that installs the SPL 3.5 Olipro as well)
9) to be able to install SPL 1.2 compatible firmware again, you need to follow the DOWNGRADER procedure (search sticky)
10) if you want to have, for warranty issues, the original SPL 1.2 back, you need to install an official dump. I am not 100% sure about this one...
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I hope my statements are correct. If not, please let me know, so this post can act as a beginners first read. Currently I have to confess, that it is quite confusing to understand these 10 points... And I am already familiar with modding the BA, Universal, HP 514, VDA GPS, etc.
Thanks,
vma
PS: Yes, I ask silly questions, but still I try to bring something back...
vma said:
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
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No, X7500 original is SPL 1.1
Is there a way to go back from i.e. SPL 1.2olipro to official SPL?
Thanks,
vma
Hi everybody,
i get a problem when i tried to flash my second HD2, flashed the first one without problems
i searched for spl 3.03 and i found other threads saying that we have to flash with stock ROM but the serial number doesn't match with the mskip list...
S/N is : HT01KNW03882 is there anyone who can tell me it 's from where ?
i bought it to a guy who get it with a contract it's under Orange french ROM and i'm in france so i get this french ROM:Leo_HTC_FRA_1.43.406.2_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2
but i get this message error during a sd card method (card was formatted in FAT32), after showing me the bootloader screen, in the grey back :00028002
Not allow
and then it returns in the tri color screen
sorry for the bad english and thanks in advance
Hello sir, honestly it isn't complicated.
You mention that it is a device who came from a contract under Orange.
So it is a Orange branded device.
So conclusion; you need this ROM: RUU_Leo_S_Orange_FR-B2B_3.14.73.2 Download!
And for your info; I have verified it with your S/N
thanks for reply !
this is the ROM i had already and the only one i can get from HTC whith the S/N you'r right but i tried that and it do not change spl
i just flashed it now with SSPL and a 1.43 french stock ROM but i just want HSPL on it
abdelQouddouss said:
thanks for reply !
this is the ROM i had already and the only one i can get from HTC whith the S/N you'r right but i tried that and it do not change spl
i just flashed it now with SSPL and a 1.43 french stock ROM but i just want HSPL on it
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Mate, Im confused..
You said you have that rom installed/flashed but didnt change the SPL?
As I know, the stock rom version 3.14 contains SPL 3.03.0000. So, your hd2 should have had that spl now.
Try to check again in case you missed something.
Also please keep in mind that SPL 3.03.0000 are not compatible with HSPL at the moment. It will cause you trouble if you install HSPL over SPL 3.03
Cheers
silverwind said:
Mate, Im confused..
You said you have that rom installed/flashed but didnt change the SPL?
As I know, the stock rom version 3.14 contains SPL 3.03.0000. So, your hd2 should have had that spl now.
Try to check again in case you missed something.
Also please keep in mind that SPL 3.03.0000 are not compatible with HSPL at the moment. It will cause you trouble if you install HSPL over SPL 3.03
Cheers
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that's the ROM i had when i get the phone and the only one i can get via HTC and the spl was only 3.03.0000 and do not change with flashing this ROM
now i have 1.43.french ROM and still this $&!ù^* 3.03.000 spl
ok i have successfully flashed the device with darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 using jayceooi's video because i saw the spl 3.03 in it
abdelQouddouss said:
thanks for reply !
this is the ROM i had already and the only one i can get from HTC whith the S/N you'r right but i tried that and it do not change spl
i just flashed it now with SSPL and a 1.43 french stock ROM but i just want HSPL on it
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First of all I'm confused, If you already have this ROM; way your question about that you card find your stock ROM based on your S/N???
And secondly, way would you install stock ROM over SSPL??? Just use the normal installation proses. But in case you have HSPL on your device, remove it first. (HSPL isn't compatible with stock ROM 3.14)
was afraid when i saw that no S/N was like mine and i want HSPL because it's easy and i use it since Trinity without any probs.
flashed with SSPL because i really don't like Orange's ROM
If i understand correctly, you flashed with sspl and can't go back to hspl even after going back to stock rom. Its very easy to solve but difficult to find the required rom. All you have to do is download different kinds or should i say download an older version of the orange stock rom and install it on your device. That should solve your proplem, at least that how i was able to solve mine.
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an older version of the orange stock rom and install it on your device.
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hehe, and that little piece of info is the cause of confisuion this mildly amusing thread,, , you see the only orange rom that has been released by HTC directly is the 3.14, (there is an earlier orange FR rom about, but i remember lots of people hunting high and low last summer for it) but the OP wants to downgrade to apply hspl.
@OP - give the one in post 2 a try HERE.
Hello. I want to buy a HTC Radar and I want flash custom ROM because I need BT transfer, File Manager and other good stuff. So I must install HSPL with Y cable and Gold card ? Or maybe I dont understand ? (sorry for bad English)
depends if radar has been supported MIDs
List of supported MIDs:
“PI061100, “PI061000"
if not supported, then you must install HSPL with Y cable.
Here is everything explained ... good luck
If your MID (you can find it in SPL) is supported, you just flash SPL, then HSPL and then ROM (you may need flash proper radio too).
If you have T-Mobile or AT&T Radar, you have to use y-cable for SPL flashing. HSPL and ROM can be flashet from computer.
It may look hard, but it's pretty easy.
Ok. Thank you for fast reply
CreAtive_34 said:
If your MID (you can find it in SPL) is supported, you just flash SPL, then HSPL and then ROM (you may need flash proper radio too).
If you have T-Mobile or AT&T Radar, you have to use y-cable for SPL flashing. HSPL and ROM can be flashet from computer.
It may look hard, but it's pretty easy.
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i'm sorry, what do you mean by "you may need flash proper radio too"?
sorry, noob question. im new to windowsphone
AsphyxiaS said:
i'm sorry, what do you mean by "you may need flash proper radio too"?
sorry, noob question. im new to windowsphone
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after downgrade SPL to 2.5 , you need to install the Radio .nbh ,
tell me if i'm wrong
You have to install the correct radio for the ROM. It should say with each ROM what radio it needs...
There is an exe with a wizard that will install the radio, just like the ROM...