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EDIT: This is for X10 Mini Pro
Greets
So, I've looked around for a phone and while I can get other phones like the LG P500 (Android 2.2 capable) or the Galaxy 550 (cheaper 2.1), the keyboard, the whole design and all, it has gotten to me. I have a low-end touch only and it really annoys me to type with a touch keyboard.
So I've been looking around for all the goodies around and saving all the files on my PC, all organized and ready to be used. So far I've taken care of:
- Rooting the phone;
- Installing Link2SD, from what I read, 2.1 can't move an app to the SD;
- Installing Skyfire 4 so flash videos work.
Now, slade has a fully functional ROM out. How beneficial would it be to ditch the phone's 2.1 for this or any other ROM?
I've been keeping my eye on the CM7 ROM as it seems to be 2.1, right?
So, long post short, what else do you recommend and how beneficial is it for me to dive into the custom ROM environment?
Thanks
Az
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
angry birds works on both cm6/7
also sms app doesnt crash on cm6 when keyboard is out.
which version are you using?
Well, from slade's CM7 post, the camera is stuck at 0.3MP, right? I mean, I will be paying for a 5MP one. Is it fully working on CM6? Cuz I don't really care for the radio or ANT, will not be using those for sure.
Yes cm7 camera is still bad. In cm6 which is froyo btw it will work.
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Your latest CM6 ROM is flawless, CM7 has bad camera, that's pretty much all I'd notice. So installing CM6 will give me 2.2. I guess that pretty much closes the deal, I guess I'll take your hybrid ROM and wait till CM7 is complete. CM7 is 2.3?
Slade CM6's ROMs (there's 2 flavours) are the most suitable for daily use IMHO.
The camera issues in CM7 prevent it from being a daily use ROM for me.
Almost everything is working perfectly in CM6... only bug i've found is when playing music for a while, sometimes phone crashes.
The great thing about playing with dev roms is that you can always revert back to your stock 2.1 backup (or any other backup) if you don't like it. So give it a try, if you don't like it, just revert back... takes a couple of minutes
The backing up of the original ROM, is it with xRecovery?
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The backing up of the original ROM, is it with xRecovery?
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Yes, install xrecovery... backup your current install, then play with dev roms until you're happy.... if you don't like whatever you've installed, then restore your backup with xrecovery again
Ok, thank you both, now, on to get the little thing!
Rzykerz said:
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
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Angry bird working awesome for Me, and sms tooo
go get it! worth every penny. there are many roms that will surely satisfy your requirements.
Rzykerz said:
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
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I've tryed only Slade's CM6 V2 rom and found that the camera performance is noteably inferior to the stock rom. I ll be happy if proven wrong.
tcp.Az said:
EDIT: This is for X10 Mini Pro
Greets
So, I've looked around for a phone and while I can get other phones like the LG P500 (Android 2.2 capable) or the Galaxy 550 (cheaper 2.1), the keyboard, the whole design and all, it has gotten to me. I have a low-end touch only and it really annoys me to type with a touch keyboard.
Az
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Well, my previous phone was an HTC HD2 which I ran with an android nand rom. Although it was quite a machine I find myself happier with the mini pro, the key points being the hardware keyboard, better 5mp camera and better music quality. Low points are the tiny screen and that the mini pro is slower and also the inferior battery life. Still though, I dont regret the change one bit
I mean, maybe better phones feel better, but I guess I am one of those people that won't feel good without the physical keys. I've seen some differences in prices from shop to shop, I found it a little weird. Like, 20€. But it's okay.
And MT is being worked on, I think awsomeness is on it's way
ickata said:
Well, my previous phone was an HTC HD2 ... I find myself happier with the mini pro
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I just notice that Mini Pro's keyboard perhaps seems to be too small but in real life it is flawlessly useable.
My second note is that: is OK for English only - special characters are pain in the @ss.
Third notice is that: HW keyboard usable only when You using phone "horizontally". In practice I using phone in "vertical" position and if want to type, I must to slide-out HW keyboard, type fast, then close HW keyboard and continue work in this comfort orientation.
If You type much SMS or e-mail, HW keyboard is a _must_. If You browse web-sites often in 320X240 and every time You visit totally different places, typing fast also would be good - but this is real?
For me, my any other uses in "vertical" orientation - so I almost no using HS keybouard
Considering I am Portuguese... I've looked around, special characters really are a pain, but I'll find a way.
I think I can combine horizontal and vertical, I don't really mind the little screen. Internet will be seldomly used, MSN and Skype mostly.
Question is which Gingerbread based rom do you think is running a smoother UI and offering the most stable user experience given the video driver issues?
CM7 updates much more frequently, so they have shown more progress on hardware video acceleration, but that doesn't mean Gojimi isn't also working on it, it just wasn't part of the RC1 that is out there. With respect to a smoother UI, Gojimi has released VTLauncher separately so I personally am running the latest CM7 with VTLauncher, for the best of both worlds. I really appreciate having the dock on the bottom, not the right, other than that I turn off the sidebars anyway...
With the CM team making so much rapid progress I'm not even really sure what would motivate Gojimi to work on an almost identical ROM, although he does have more GTab specific experience whereas CM is generic, and then Mad-Murdoch drives the tablet specific features. I actually appreciate Gojimi's other projects more.
MC
MicroChip said:
CM7 updates much more frequently, so they have shown more progress on hardware video acceleration, but that doesn't mean Gojimi isn't also working on it, it just wasn't part of the RC1 that is out there. With respect to a smoother UI, Gojimi has released VTLauncher separately so I personally am running the latest CM7 with VTLauncher, for the best of both worlds. I really appreciate having the dock on the bottom, not the right, other than that I turn off the sidebars anyway...
With the CM team making so much rapid progress I'm not even really sure what would motivate Gojimi to work on an almost identical ROM, although he does have more GTab specific experience whereas CM is generic, and then Mad-Murdoch drives the tablet specific features. I actually appreciate Gojimi's other projects more.
MC
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Excellent Feedback. Agree Gojimi is awesome and VTLauncher is pretty sweet.
I prefer donut myself
This is a toughy. I'm a long time CM fan from way back with my MyTouch. But I've been using Vegan since I got my Gtab. I just switched to CM7 and so far I'm loving it. I appreciate the frequent updates simply because it satisfies my hunger for flashing (that sounds bad). I'm also liking that CM7 has migrated the nightlies to the 2.3.4 strain of Android. Video playback - ech. That topic has been done to death and now all we can do is wait and see. Right now, my money is with CM7 until I see what future Vegan releases bring.
Tablet VS Phone
I prefer VegaN due to its more tablet friendly approach. CM7 felt like a phone, and the even murdoch's tablet tweaks felt like an afterthought. For me not having video hardware acceleration is not a big enough trade off to switch back to CM7 nightlies. VTL in Vegan GE itself is a huge +1.
Didn't vote, but running VeganGinger, and watching CM7
VGinger is based on CM7, so I think of it as a teaser for the next rev of Vegan.
No matter what, VTL Launcher got an instant donation out of me. Awesome.
manikin13 said:
I prefer VegaN due to its more tablet friendly approach. CM7 felt like a phone, and the even murdoch's tablet tweaks felt like an afterthought. For me not having video hardware acceleration is not a big enough trade off to switch back to CM7 nightlies. VTL in Vegan GE itself is a huge +1.
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I think that the tablet tweaks on CM7 look nicer than Vegan, and VTL works nicely too. I'm not sure about your hardware acceleration comment. Neither release has full support yet.
I liked VT Launcher so much I bought it for my droid. Its pimpin
Im also telling Gojimi everyday it's time for an update. He is buried in projects right now.
+1 for the VTLauncher
I started with vegan ROMs and if it wasnt for my other phones running CM and addiction to the nightly build bot I'd still be running vegan ROMs.
I also echo whats been said about VTLauncher. It rocks for tablets. That plus tablet tweaks and the honeybread theme for CM7, Im a happy camper.
thebadfrog said:
I prefer donut myself
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Creme filled or with sprinkles?
BAD frog! BAD!
thebadfrog said:
I prefer donut myself
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Donut wasnt all that bad. It lacked what jit? Task management? And some ui stuff? From froyo?
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Wait....
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice cream
Google devs are fat guys taking a poll on everyones favorite desert
thebadfrog said:
Wait....
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice cream
Google devs are fat guys taking a poll on everyones favorite desert
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My favourite desert is definitely the Sahara. Size is everything!
...but seriously, I run CM7 nightlies but props to gojimi for his contributions. I'd like to him to be more open about his plans and progress, but he certainly doesn't owe me anything
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Wait....
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice cream
Google devs are fat guys taking a poll on everyones favorite desert
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Isnt froyo ice cream? Are we going backwards?
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RobBrownNZ said:
My favourite desert is definitely the Sahara. Size is everything!
...but seriously, I run CM7 nightlies but props to gojimi for his contributions. I'd like to him to be more open about his plans and progress, but he certainly doesn't owe me anything
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Seriously.....Gojimi has not forgotten the community. I chat with him several times a day and he is busy working on his launcher and trying to tweak his next release. I think hes waiting for the hardware accelleration issue to finally be completely fixed and I saw a post earlier that DSP may be fixed. (I think Oozura said it actually ) He has tweaked enough stuff from cm source that he just cant produce as fast as cm can. Lots of changes from source he has to manually fix.
He is also busy working on bugs in his launcher in Honeycomb. Minor but major headaches. He's not a big poster because his head is buried in code all the time.
Oozura said:
Isnt froyo ice cream? Are we going backwards?
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FROzen YOgurt. Not ice cream. Fake. False. Tricksy. We hates it.
Nasty hobbits like Froyo
CM7 no question
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I love VGinger on my Gtablet. Hats off to Gozimi for raising the bar and keeping gtab alive.
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Well, after trying a few keyboards, im still on the hunt for a decent keyboard that doesnt lag or totally miss letters when typing, so far ive tried the stock one, HTC-ime, Gingerbread keyboard from the market, the only one i got along with was the HTC one, but even then it still misses letters every now and then.
So what do you find works well on the X10? 2.3.3.
Hands-down, SmartKeyboard Pro!
I've been using it for almost a year now, it's so good, fast, stable,
supports themes and has many many neat features that imho make it stand out.
Smart keyboard is probably the best keyboard out there.
But there are others out there like Swype (which you can get from their website) and SlideIt. With these keyboards you don't have to type, you just move your fingers over the letters.
Top two keyboards would be Smart Keyboard Pro and SlideIt Pro.
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My_Immortal said:
Hands-down, SmartKeyboard Pro!
I've been using it for almost a year now, it's so good, fast, stable,
supports themes and has many many neat features that imho make it stand out.
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+1
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I like SlideIt......but I prefer to type in my words manually in ABC mode
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My_Immortal said:
Hands-down, SmartKeyboard Pro!
I've been using it for almost a year now, it's so good, fast, stable,
supports themes and has many many neat features that imho make it stand out.
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+10 ! Probably the best so far I checked !
Add another vote for Smart Keyboard Pro. I tried a bunch of different keyboards including Swype but always came back to it.
Default is on of the bests
I like the stock keyboard in gingerbread a lot
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Cheers guys ill try those out later today, as for the last 2 that say they like the Gingerbread stock keyboard, its not bad but it lags abit for me and is probably a little worse for missing letters when im typing/tapping fast.
im usin slide it on x10
im usin swype on sgs2
once u get the hang of it
its fast
Try better keyboard 8 .. it is very cool and customisable...
i would recommend thumb keyboard
I don't even really find smart keyboard pro that good..
Swype for me is much faster and better
My_Immortal said:
Hands-down, SmartKeyboard Pro!
I've been using it for almost a year now, it's so good, fast, stable,
supports themes and has many many neat features that imho make it stand out.
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Bough the app don't remember how much but it worth it ! It fully supports multi touch so i never miss a single key ! Supports themes and aall that ! Just one thing is the "learning" system is kinda slow and its prediction is soso compared to swiftkey
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shahkam said:
Bough the app don't remember how much but it worth it ! It fully supports multi touch so i never miss a single key ! Supports themes and aall that ! Just one thing is the "learning" system is kinda slow and its prediction is soso compared to swiftkey
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Exactly that was my issue with it as well. It doesn't seem to remember new words I typed or anything either
scoobysnacks said:
I don't even really find smart keyboard pro that good..
Swype for me is much faster and better
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Of course you don't!
In my view, you can't compare typing keyboards with swyping keyboards.
They are two different input methods.
I like Swype too, but sometimes it suits me better to just type and that's where Smart Keyboard had yet to fail me.
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My_Immortal said:
Of course you don't!
In my view, you can't compare typing keyboards with swyping keyboards.
They are two different input methods.
I like Swype too, but sometimes it suits me better to just type and that's where Smart Keyboard had yet to fail me.
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I agree, but I use swype and after "training" it to learn the common words you use it is fantastic, and you can always type with it as well as swype it, so its the best of both worlds!
My_Immortal said:
Of course you don't!
In my view, you can't compare typing keyboards with swyping keyboards.
They are two different input methods.
I like Swype too, but sometimes it suits me better to just type and that's where Smart Keyboard had yet to fail me.
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I love the customizability of it, but I just find that it gets a lot of words wrong still when I try to type fast.
All personal opinion, many people hate the swype method of typing so it is probably perfect for them.
I just think that after using swype, I tested this one out and it wasn't for me. I was typing slower and making more mistakes
SwiftKey #1
World record holder for words per minute. It learns your style and predicts not only the word you are spelling, but also the next word. Many times I only have to type 1 letter and can complete an entire sentence.
If you ever have typed out an entire paragraph and deleted/lost it somehow, all you need to remember is the first word you started the paragraph with. Then watch as the entire paragraph can be duplicated by selecting the middle next predicted word each time. Especially useful on xda when helping noobs with the same question over and over.
I've used all the others, better keyboard, smart keyboard, Swipe, HTC.
Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
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Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
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Use what you like. It's your phone, own it. Don't let us tell you what to run.
But ICS here isn't complete, so that isn't exactly a fair comparison yet. There are many many new features to ICS besides the interface. Things such as face unlock (when camera works), managing your data usage, hardware acceleration - just to name a few. Perhaps you should look up all ICS has to offer, there are tons of sources that share what's new. I can't remember everything and there's just too much to type up here.
Thank you. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me what to run. But I WAS looking for what you gave me in your post. Just a brief set of a few reasons why one might want to go with ICS. I appreciate it.
Google "ICS vs gingerbread"
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
I absolutely adore ICS. I cant bring myself to go back to gingerbread. I think asop gb is ugly now that I've gotten used to ics, its just much prettier! Im also very happy to be rid of Android green. Otherwise I personally feel ICS is a much better OS, especially under the hood, its quick, smooth, and better thought out all around. And once you get used to the keyboard its fantastic, and the text prediction and spell check is the best I've used, i love the keyboard.
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
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The text reflow is a sense browser thing
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The text reflowed on my nexus one and nexus s on stock and cyanogenmod roms for 2.3, so it's definitely not just a sense thing
Reflow worked for me in ICS. I had no problems. Did you use the Chrome beta?
anyone prefer the stock keyboard over the new SwiftX keyboard(the new Beta one)?
I have tried the Swift one for the last couple of days and couldn't bring myself to liking it... uninstalled it and started using the Rezoun'd stock keyboard again... much better....
(but I have long fingers... if that makes any difference)
i don't like swiftkey beta, and i'm a swiftkey user. i bought it when it was 99 cents and use it every day. i can't go back to the stock keyboard anymore!
Had swiftly on my dx. There is a density difference so on the resound the siwiftkey is so9 tiny. Stock is big with better voice typing and correction. Can I change long tap length tho?
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The only keyboards I can ever manage to like are the stock AOSP Android keyboards. I really like the ICS keyboard.
I never really did like the Sense keyboard, I love the AOSP ICS keyboard though, it just seems to work so much better for me.
I didn't like Swiftkey. The autocorrection including spaces is amazing, but it is too quirky and needs more customization to fix the weird layout. I like Smart Keyboard Pro.
i have paid for swiftkey and i dont think its better than the stock sense one so thats what im using now.
I'm currently using the beta. I gotta say, I perform a little better on it, especially since I raised the height on the keyboard. At its stock settings, it definitely isn't large enough, so for people having that trouble, just raise the height, but otherwise, I find it autocorrects nicely. Since it learns over time, I save all of my text messages between builds, so then swiftkey can use all of that data to see how I write. When you give it time, it definitely becomes one of the best.
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I like Smart Keyboard Pro.
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Me too, I've tried every KB there is and always end up returning to SKP.
Best keyboard I've found so far is the Go keyboard. It has "swift-like" functions, but I couldn't get used to it.
I like the HTC stock keyboard.
Coming from a DROID-X I find it is much better.
Howard
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Me too, I've tried every KB there is and always end up returning to SKP.
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+1 for SKP.
Stock HTC keyboard is terrible. I like Swiftkey a lot, I like the new ICS keyboard a lot too. Although the new Swiftkey beta doesn't seem to work well on XXX 4.0. Not sure if it's the ROM or the app.
SwiftX is scary good at knowing what I want to type
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fenguepay said:
Had swiftly on my dx. There is a density difference so on the resound the siwiftkey is so9 tiny. Stock is big with better voice typing and correction. Can I change long tap length tho?
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In the beta version, you can choose small, medium and large keyboard sizes.
GeneralCarter said:
SwiftX is scary good at knowing what I want to type
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No kidding. I wish there was a way to combine the prediction engine from SwiftX with the keyboard from SmartKeyboard Pro. That would be the ultimate setup.
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In the beta version, you can choose small, medium and large keyboard sizes.
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true, but even the large is too small IMHO.
I prefer the htc ketboard to any others. I've used swype, swiftkey, and ics. I was a longtime swiftkey user on my nexus device too.
The sense keyboard just works for me.
Rezound, rooted, loving it.
It's surprised me just how much I like the stock Sense keyboard. I usually don't use a stock keyboard, but since Swype isn't working for me I decided to stick it out, and it's really grown on me.
I'm on my DInc right now (only reason I'm on these forums is because I just ordered a Rezound ) and it's running Evervolv ICS Alpha 1, and honestly, I don't have enough extra RAM to run swiftkey :/
If it's a good day, after clearing processes I will have around 222mb free ram, and with swiftkey, it dropped to around 160 free, and Swiftkey ran sliggishly on my phone anyway, so I just reverted to the stock ICS keyboard .
Swiftkey is great at knowing words you use and whatnot, correcting misspells, but just too sluggish for me right now, I'll try it again when I get my Rezound...
Prefer the stock ICS keyboard
That and Google Voice Typing -- it's scary accurate and you can see it type what you are saying as you say it!