[Q] Dependencies - Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Do we have a list of system app dependancies? I.e., Handcent requires Messaging.app etc. Just wondered for the purposes of clearing out system space.

I do not believe there is. What I do is: nandroid, uninstall what I don't want, reboot, wait for a crash. The only dependency issue I had was with the gtalk service, required by market, everything else seems to either tell you what it is or simply be unnecessary. You can also try freezing the service/app with Titanium Backup Pro or viciously kill with a task manager and watch for faults before unistalling. Whatever you do NANDROID first, it took me hours to find an install for gtalk (this was before gapps was a separate flash and downloadable everywhere).

Thank you! Titanium Backup works great for this!!! Handcent does good without the stock messaging, but will not get MMS without it. Got rid of quite a few garbage apps that were built in, so far, all is well.

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[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]

Alright everyone, I'm just posting this thread for other devs and myself so we can see hat can or cannot be removed from the nook tab as far as bloat goes. So far, I know that the chess, sudoku, and launcher can so we can go from there.
If you see a * it means that it will remove atleast one aspect of barnes and noble service. After the * though, I will explain what gets interrupted.
Code:
List of files that can be removed:
home1.0 (home.apk)
chess
crossword
Applauncher.apk
social.apk * removes Nook Social
shop.apk *Removes the barnes and noble store (Books included)
email.apk Removes crappy email app (you can replace with the Email apk from gingerbread in the Themes and Apps section of the forum.
reader.apk
b3androidreader.apk
netflix
pandora
browser.apk *removes default browser *meaning it can't be accessed from the taskbar gained by clicking the nook button once.
flashplayer.apk
geniewidget.apk
huluplus
nookcommunity *removes nook social
quickofficeviewer
wwreader.apk
bnappinstaller.apk *Removes ability to install apps from B&N store
bnauthenticationservice.apk *removes email account on device therefor completely invalidating the use of any of stores etc.
bncloudrequestsvc.apk *Removes ability to sync B&N content with cloud
bnconnectivityservice.apk *Same as above
bnpolicymanagersvc.apk *Same as authenticationservice
airruntime
cryptoserver.apk *
demomode.apk
telephonyprovider.apk
Devs post here with other files you KNOW can be removed. I'll get around to writing a BASH script for the tablet to run to remove most of it.
What does Applauncher.apk do?
Personally, I'd like to keep Home.apk (which I assume is the default home) and the BN shop. I'll never use most of the other stuff, though.
i'll update this post if i come across any problems caused by the things i've deleted.
yea so I went a little crazy on my delete spree, but everything seems to be working. a lot of things like flash air etc i'll probably wind up reinstalling via the marketplace, but i wanted to start off as bare bones as i could. obviously i don't use any of the barnes and noble services nor do i use hulu or netflix so i remove everything I could find with their names in it.
I did the nook hardware test after i removed all this stuff and it passed with flying colors aswell.
<disclaimer>this list is definately at your own risk, because while it hasn't caused me any problems I'm making no guarantees for you. you probably SHOULDNT be removing these things, SO DONT DO IT, but I did anyways.. with no negative consequences for me. I don't use this as a way to connect to a bunch of diferent services, I'm using it as a tablet.</disclaimer>
definately don't do this unless you have the marketplace installed, along with homecatcher defaulting your n key to an alternative launcher.
home1.0 (home.apk)
chess
crossword
Applauncher.apk
social.apk
shop.apk
email.apk
reader.apk
b3androidreader.apk
netflix
pandora
browser.apk
flashplayer.apk
geniewidget.apk
huluplus
nookcommunity
quickofficeviewer
wwreader.apk
bnappinstaller.apk
bnauthenticationservice.apk
bncloudrequestsvc.apk
bnconnectivityservice.apk
bnpolicymanagersvc.apk
airruntime
cryptoserver.apk
demomode.apk
i'll probably wind up removing even more stuff.
and I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be suprised if one of those bn*apk's i removed broke ota updates, i have no way to be sure though.
Removed those from risho's post and everything is still working fine.
Updated OP with full list of apps that can be removed.
Question: how do you actually remove this stuff?
I'd like to remove the B&N bloatware but I'm not sure how do to that exactly.
Help?
You need to use a root file explorer and mount system as r/w and then go into /system/app
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jimmysuggs said:
Question: how do you actually remove this stuff?
I'd like to remove the B&N bloatware but I'm not sure how do to that exactly.
Help?
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I would use Titanium Backup to backup and then uninstall one by one. Unless someone created a script to do it...
Um is there any chance that someone could run me through the basics of titanium backup? I'm new to this stuff and have no idea how it works.
Do you use titanium backup to uninstall the B&N apps? Or just to back them up, in case you need them again? And if you don't actually use titanium backup to uninstall the apps, what do you use?
Clearly I'm in over my head, any help would be appreciated.
jimmysuggs said:
Um is there any chance that someone could run me through the basics of titanium backup? I'm new to this stuff and have no idea how it works.
Do you use titanium backup to uninstall the B&N apps? Or just to back them up, in case you need them again? And if you don't actually use titanium backup to uninstall the apps, what do you use?
Clearly I'm in over my head, any help would be appreciated.
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I just used it to back up everything. Then I delete whatever I want one by one with root explorer. My hope is that at some point the whole "block OTAs" issue is resolved and then I can reinstall all the B&N stuff.
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Antek App Manager
I used Antek App Manager which is free and allows you to freeze the apps which is like uninstalling them but it renames the files instead of removing them... then if it turns out one was important you can defrost the frozen app and it will work again. Or if it works out you can remove it permanently.
At least that is how I think it works...
Email apk
i replaced the stock email apk with the one Indirect gave us. It works fine in most aspects, but when I tried to open attachment, i would get a force close because of com.android.email.
Anybody ran into this as well?
Okay this is all great info, I think I understand how titanium backup works now.
Question for phon00b (or anyone who can answer it): why do you need root explorer to delete the stuff you don't need? Doesn't titanium backup do that, as well as back up? I see a feature in there for "uninstall," isn't that the same as delete?
I'm just wondering if I actually need to use root explorer (which I'm a little scared of) or if titanium backup will do the job just as well.
I doubt you need to use a root explorer. However, if you are scared of it, remember Titanium Backup has root access as well and can do as much damage as a root explorer if used "incorrectly." Backing up apps before uninstalling or simply freezing them, however, is *generally* safe, assuming you don't do it to something that the NT needs to boot. I prefer to use Titanium Backup in most instances.
No particular reason, really. I'm just used to doing it that way. I'm sure deleting through titanium will yield the same result.
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Here's what I did. I use this app called, SystemApp Remover. It has this inbuilt 'Assist' facility, which kinda guides you to tell which apps are absolutely safe to remove. I used it to remove almost all bloatware that showed up safe to delete.
So far, i've removed almost all of Indirect's list, and also Library, Gallery, Music as well. It still works fine.
So i checked out system app remover but i gotta say, it worries me a bit. There are so many green apps (meaning potentially safe to remove) in there that it makes me wonder. Can all those apps really be safe to remove? Has anyone out there actually removed some (or all) of these apps?
jimmysuggs said:
So i checked out system app remover but i gotta say, it worries me a bit. There are so many green apps (meaning potentially safe to remove) in there that it makes me wonder. Can all those apps really be safe to remove? Has anyone out there actually removed some (or all) of these apps?
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Yes, most are safe to remove! I removed almost all of em, except the ones I knew were useful for me.
You can post here for help about an app if you are in doubt.
It's pretty safe to remove Soduko.apk and Library.apk too.
EDIT: I also removed telephonyprovider.apk without any issues (so far)

Any success uninstalling or freezing stock bloat?

If it matters, mine is a P509 - my question is whether any of you have found, short of custom ROM, a way to remove bloat apps, or freeze them effectively, given a stock LG ROM? I run kernel 2.6.32.9 and it is very stable. just wanting to free up cycles and memory
the reason I can't get along with custom ROM is the lack of wifi calling [that is, the way it is supposed to work, via T-mo]
Will Titanium Pro do this? any nasty side effects?
root - delete the apps.
TiBackup - freeze or delete.
All of these work. I just test-searched this subforum for remove bloatware and was rewarded with an abundance of information. This also contains info on the likeliest followup question, "what apps can I remove?".
FWIW, I find greatest stability and battery life on a sanitized stock ROM but run CM7 on principle. I use Google Voice + Groove IP for my wifi calling needs. Works fine and doesn't eat TMO voice mins.
I just go to system/app and delete the apps or "bloatware" that you dont need, titanium backup does the same but you have the option to freeze. If you want to get rid of it quick and easy just go to system/app and delete the app you want gone. Be careful what you delete, stay away from system apps that your phone will need. I would make a backup first before you start deleting just to be safe hope this helps
you are my man! i use the same plan with T-mo - do everything I can on wifi, keep data turned off 90% of the time, send pics via GoSMS Pro...
Thank you both, fratermus and 'droid311 for the help.
If you don't mind let me list a few that I ASSUME I can safely remove - if you see something dangerous pls let me know
- Drivesmart
- Telenav
- thinkfree office
- visual voicemail
- Voice Search
- web2go home
- Pacman demo [good grief]
- places
- latitude
- fm radio [never worked]
- dinerdash
- doodle
ok fire away
btw - re: titanium does the freeware version do the trick or the upgrade?
I'll have a look at system/root - not an expert su by any means
fratermus said:
root - delete the apps.
TiBackup - freeze or delete.
All of these work. I just test-searched this subforum for remove bloatware and was rewarded with an abundance of information. This also contains info on the likeliest followup question, "what apps can I remove?".
FWIW, I find greatest stability and battery life on a sanitized stock ROM but run CM7 on principle. I use Google Voice + Groove IP for my wifi calling needs. Works fine and doesn't eat TMO voice mins.
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OK, friends I got it rolling now. handful of that stuff uninstalled.
could I bug you for just a couple of specifics?
- Keyboards: I have been running the Gingerbread keybd for awhile and like it well enough - the handset still has he original keyboard installed. is it safe to uninstall/remove that or is it involved with the core ROM?
- Similarly, I seem to have three Messaging things stacked: there is the original which I guess was on the handset from the edge: there is an Update to the stock Messaging app, then there is GoSMS Pro which is what I actually use. Is it safe to uninstall the other/stock messaging apps?
- Maps [latitude] is a pig - it loads three modules at powerup and I never even use it [my eyes and that screen with ddetailed maps,, no worky well]. safe to remove? answer seems to be yes.
that's all. I am a happy camper
Are you running cm7?
-You would probaly get a foreclose if you delete it, I would go into play store (android market) and find the keyboard you want, download it and push it to system/app then delete the old gingerbread key board.
-I wouldnt move/delete the stock messaging apps because I think (not positive) but gosms pro would need your stock messaging app to run off of.
-yes maps can be safe to remove
-Also reading your list of your bloat ware, they all can be deleted safely with no harm
thank you so much!
no, i'm running 2.2 LG rom and it is so stable I am ok to stay here, especially because WIFI calling works like butter... excellent.
uninstalled maps, finally - nothing else would stop it from loading up. no harm done, as you indicated.
all this has managed to free up about 35% of the meager ROM.
I guess this is about as good as it gets if one retains wifi calling, gmail/voice, and basic decent apps like a good media player, maps [that is, 3rd party], sms/mms, memos, calendar, reminders, notifier[missed message flasher the only one I have found that actually works]
No problem man, make sure you always backup
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After rooting, am I okay to go into ROM toolbox and uninstall/freeze bloat apps?

So this is my first Android phone, I just rooted it this morning and got ROM toolbox installed. Am I okay to go in and freeze or uninstall all these crappy bloat apps? I noticed in another thread that people were freezing a ton of apps instead of uninstalling - is there any particular reason for this? ROM toolbox apparently gives me the option to uninstall every app that's listed. Is freezing just a better idea for safety reasons? This is all very new to me but I'd like to uninstall as much of this bloat as possible.
Also, are there any other "must have" apps or fixes/tweaks that I should do now that I have root access?
You can uninstall the bloated verizon crap if you want, but some things may not work properly afterwards. i think that's why we usually freeze instead of uninstall.
what you can do instead is make a backup of any/all junk you want to remove. that way it's always there to reinstall if you find your phone not working properly.
if you plan on installing a custom ROM, then none of this even matters. Uninstall to your hearts content. But we typically like original backups of the whole system in case something F's up.
yyhd said:
You can uninstall the bloated verizon crap if you want, but some things may not work properly afterwards. i think that's why we usually freeze instead of uninstall.
what you can do instead is make a backup of any/all junk you want to remove. that way it's always there to reinstall if you find your phone not working properly.
if you plan on installing a custom ROM, then none of this even matters. Uninstall to your hearts content. But we typically like original backups of the whole system in case something F's up.
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This is sorta of off topic, but can you make a backup of everything? I was stupid and uninstalled something i shouldnt have now the I cant login to my google account anywhere on the phone. Could you do this for me and send me the files(s)? It would be a god send.
michaelgg13 said:
This is sorta of off topic, but can you make a backup of everything? I was stupid and uninstalled something i shouldnt have now the I cant login to my google account anywhere on the phone. Could you do this for me and send me the files(s)? It would be a god send.
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Actually, I did the same thing to a couple of apps before I realized what was going on. Then I got titanium backup after posting here and backed everything up, minus the files I uninstalled. It was mostly some random Samsung bloat apps. Everything seems to be working fine, so I don't think I did any damage.
I'll see if I can get the backup uploaded and I'll send you a PM with the link.

[Q] how to remove Google Play Music?

I'd like to remove Google Play Music. I have no need for it and I find it is automatically making itself an active app that I always have to kill after a reboot. I really don't care to have google spying on me at that level (yeah, I know it is hard to avoid) and suggesting music for me. I can do that very well for myself, thank you. So, I've rooted my phone, flashed the latest philz kernel, and installed busybox pro and titanium backup pro. If it is safe to kill that google app, which tool and what should I do to accomplish it? I see TB has bloatware melter, but I cannot find an adequate description or how-to for it.
Freeze it with Titanium. Personally speaking, I don't like to outright remove anything, freezing is a better option given it achieves the exact same result & without the 'oops I accidentally deleted an important system app by mistake' type incidents that can/do happen.
Alternatively if you do really want to remove it you can use SystemApp Remover.
Thanks for the helps. I chose to freeze it, because, being a noob, that is the cautious choice for me.

[Help!] Restoring from Titanium Backup breaks some GCM push notifications

As the title states, I was wondering if anyone out there happens to know why restoring an app+data from Titanium Backup after a Factory Reset causes Push Messages (GCM I believe) to stop working. It seems fairly obvious that when restoring an app+app data from a previous installation, they get confused and the push messages aren't being delivered to the right place.
So far the only solution that I've found to the problem is to wipe the app's data, and restart from scratch.
I've done a lot of Google searching, and I have seen that there are a handful of other people who have had this same problem, but I have yet to see anyone come up with a working solution, though there have been a few things I've tried. This is my normal procedure I do when I upgrade/flash a new rom:
Code:
-Backup with Titanium Backup
-Backup with GO Backup
-Nandroid with TWRP
-Factory Reset
-Flash ROM
-Wipe Cache/Dalvik
-Boot
-Sign into Google Account
-Install Titanium Backup
-Restore previous Android ID
-Reboot
-Use Titanium Backup to restore Apps+AppData, as well as some system settings
-Reboot
At this point, some of my GCM push notifications don't work. The only way I can get them to work again is to wipe the app's data and start from scratch. I have tried the following things, none of which worked, but they might provide helpful information.
Code:
-Wiped the app data, restored the app data by itself again.
-Uninstalled the app, installed from Google Play, restored app data.
-Used Application Manager to disable notifications, then re-enabled.
-Went into the app's settings to disable notifications, then re-enabled.
-Cleared data on Google Services Framework
-Removed Google Account, cleared data on Google Services Framework, rebooted.
[B] (This actually had an even worse side effect of re-breaking GCM push
notifications for all of the apps I had fixed by hand)[/B]
At this point I'm at a loss, I'm not sure what else to try. It kind of looks like the Google Account/GSF is related to GCM. I don't remember exactly, but I think I tried restoring the previous GSF App+Data on my most recent flash, and it still didn't work.
Anyways, I'm kind of rambling, if anyone is able to provide any insight or help, it would be greatly appreciated!
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In case anyone is interested, here's some lists of the affected/unaffected apps.
It DOES affect the following:
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Accuweather
American Express
Bejeweled
CBS Sports
Chase
Facebook
Messenger (FB)
Reddit News
Waze
XDA app
It does NOT affect the following:
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Gmail
Google Now
Hangouts
PushBullet
Yahoo! Mail
try to restore only data on titanium backup, not restore app&data
Don't forget to hit THANKS button
I've tried that way, but it didn't work either
Bump for a new day D:
Would love help on this, I have the exact same problem...
I've had this problem for a long, long time (a year or two). If there's a solution, I haven't seen it yet.
Glad that I am not the only one.
Add me to the annoyance list.
I can't figure out how to get SSG2 to notify me, and that's not an app I want to clear data on as it will lose my level saves.
Voxer also has this problem.
Interestingly enough, the Risk style game LandRule has a way to refresh the Google sync services and it works perfectly.
Multiplayer->Notifications->Having trouble...->Refresh Registration.
Very handy tool to have available, need to find a way to spread to other apps!
Try removing and re-adding your Google account. After trying a few things, this either fixed it for me, or was just coincidental timing.
I do see that you tried this... but do it without clearing GSF data.
So glad I found this!
I had been researching why Voxer lost GCM notifications, with no luck and getting frustrated. Eventually stumbled across this thread and problem solved. Back story: two days ago I flashed a factory image and restored user apps & data from TiB. Never would have guessed that any thing to do with GCM "breaking". But sure enough after reading this, I cleared data in Voxer and all is well.
God bless XDA for all the little things like this. Couldn't own a phone without it.
We could really use some type of GCM interface to relink or whatever, if that's possible. Maybe even TiB would be a great vehicle for that?
OK I'm confused. So this problem is not solved?
Solved my particular problem with Voxer by clearing data. Problem with it breaking to begin with not solved.
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So, interesting update for folks in this thread.
My push notifications in SSG have finally been fixed with the latest update.
Now I don't know if it's because something in the update fixed it or because the act of updating from the Playstore re-synced with you/Google.
Will be interesting to check next time I flash a ROM and start from scratch. Will certainly be keeping an older version of the apk to update from if needed
Had the same issue. Lost all push notifications from Whatsapp and other gcm-enabled apps after flashing to CM11 and restoring apps+data with Titanium Backup. Finally tried using the Push Notifications Fixer (root version) app and all of a sudden, my Whatsapp notifications are coming in fine. Not sure if the app really fixed the issue or if it was just a coincidence..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
[APP][2.2+][ROOT][FREE][12-SEP-2013] Push Notifications Fixer v4.1
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Anybody else having luck with that app?
Doesn't do anything for me, tried activating service, changing to 5min and resetting to default but doesn't fix push notifications from Voxer, SSG2 or LandRule...
Anything I'm doing wrong?
I'm using the latest version of TiB and my push notifications never work after a restore. Ive been manually reinstalling any apps that send me notifications after trying everything else others in here have tried. Basically TiB is only saving my WiFis for me these days. Subscribed for a fix!
Has anyone tried backing up and restoring app data with nandroid backups and apps that handle them, instead of TiBu? OBackup, ROM Manager are a couple of apps I believe do this.
What I did is backup app+data but reinstalled from PlayStore and opened up app to where it asked you to login and then goto TiB and restored Data and it worked for me!
I wish best to luck to everyone!
Also having the same issue but I've restored so many apps that I don't know which ones, other than the obvious messengers and the like, use GCM and might have it broken. I did at least figure out that deleting the app data (or uninstalling/reinstalling from the Play Store in my case) fixes the problem on an app by app basis.
A thought occurred to me but I haven't tried it myself... Has anyone tried restoring an app while using SuperSU? I seem to recall Titanium prompting that normal SU isn't very good and should be changed for optimal results but I've always ignored it. Maybe it's affecting that part of the restore.
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Tested my own theory with Voxer and it didn't help.
for me "Push Notifications Fixer" didn't resolve the problem with Whatsapp and UppTalk. To re-enable notifications and not lose data I do this:
1) delete AppData
2) open the App
3) login
4) restore AppData
like badboytw suggested above...

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