I'd like to remove Google Play Music. I have no need for it and I find it is automatically making itself an active app that I always have to kill after a reboot. I really don't care to have google spying on me at that level (yeah, I know it is hard to avoid) and suggesting music for me. I can do that very well for myself, thank you. So, I've rooted my phone, flashed the latest philz kernel, and installed busybox pro and titanium backup pro. If it is safe to kill that google app, which tool and what should I do to accomplish it? I see TB has bloatware melter, but I cannot find an adequate description or how-to for it.
Freeze it with Titanium. Personally speaking, I don't like to outright remove anything, freezing is a better option given it achieves the exact same result & without the 'oops I accidentally deleted an important system app by mistake' type incidents that can/do happen.
Alternatively if you do really want to remove it you can use SystemApp Remover.
Thanks for the helps. I chose to freeze it, because, being a noob, that is the cautious choice for me.
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Do we have a list of system app dependancies? I.e., Handcent requires Messaging.app etc. Just wondered for the purposes of clearing out system space.
I do not believe there is. What I do is: nandroid, uninstall what I don't want, reboot, wait for a crash. The only dependency issue I had was with the gtalk service, required by market, everything else seems to either tell you what it is or simply be unnecessary. You can also try freezing the service/app with Titanium Backup Pro or viciously kill with a task manager and watch for faults before unistalling. Whatever you do NANDROID first, it took me hours to find an install for gtalk (this was before gapps was a separate flash and downloadable everywhere).
Thank you! Titanium Backup works great for this!!! Handcent does good without the stock messaging, but will not get MMS without it. Got rid of quite a few garbage apps that were built in, so far, all is well.
So, on my LG Vortex (aka Optimis One Verizon Edition) the apps "Facebook for LG" and "Twitter for LG" are wrapped up into one apparently, called SNS. I hate twitter with a passion (no offense to any tweeters on the forum) and I only go on FB once in a while to look at my fiancée's posts, which I normally do thru the browser anyways. I would like to remove this app, but I am hesitant as I have no way of knowing what it'll affect on my phone. The apps are tied together into a cryptically named system app, and I'm worried they might be tied to something else, or worse, something I use. So, does anyone know what else (if anything) is included in the SNS app? Or if it is safe to remove this app? Any success or horror stories?
Thanks in advance guys.
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Um, hello? anyone?
You can remove it buddy. Don't worry. You just have to do it the right way. It is better to use an uninstaller than doing it manually.
I use Uninstaller for Root from the market. It can backup the app and remove it. Or you can use Titanium Backup as everybody else does.
Alright, awesome. I actually already have the Uninstaller For Root app, so I'll use that
Alright everyone, I'm just posting this thread for other devs and myself so we can see hat can or cannot be removed from the nook tab as far as bloat goes. So far, I know that the chess, sudoku, and launcher can so we can go from there.
If you see a * it means that it will remove atleast one aspect of barnes and noble service. After the * though, I will explain what gets interrupted.
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List of files that can be removed:
home1.0 (home.apk)
chess
crossword
Applauncher.apk
social.apk * removes Nook Social
shop.apk *Removes the barnes and noble store (Books included)
email.apk Removes crappy email app (you can replace with the Email apk from gingerbread in the Themes and Apps section of the forum.
reader.apk
b3androidreader.apk
netflix
pandora
browser.apk *removes default browser *meaning it can't be accessed from the taskbar gained by clicking the nook button once.
flashplayer.apk
geniewidget.apk
huluplus
nookcommunity *removes nook social
quickofficeviewer
wwreader.apk
bnappinstaller.apk *Removes ability to install apps from B&N store
bnauthenticationservice.apk *removes email account on device therefor completely invalidating the use of any of stores etc.
bncloudrequestsvc.apk *Removes ability to sync B&N content with cloud
bnconnectivityservice.apk *Same as above
bnpolicymanagersvc.apk *Same as authenticationservice
airruntime
cryptoserver.apk *
demomode.apk
telephonyprovider.apk
Devs post here with other files you KNOW can be removed. I'll get around to writing a BASH script for the tablet to run to remove most of it.
What does Applauncher.apk do?
Personally, I'd like to keep Home.apk (which I assume is the default home) and the BN shop. I'll never use most of the other stuff, though.
i'll update this post if i come across any problems caused by the things i've deleted.
yea so I went a little crazy on my delete spree, but everything seems to be working. a lot of things like flash air etc i'll probably wind up reinstalling via the marketplace, but i wanted to start off as bare bones as i could. obviously i don't use any of the barnes and noble services nor do i use hulu or netflix so i remove everything I could find with their names in it.
I did the nook hardware test after i removed all this stuff and it passed with flying colors aswell.
<disclaimer>this list is definately at your own risk, because while it hasn't caused me any problems I'm making no guarantees for you. you probably SHOULDNT be removing these things, SO DONT DO IT, but I did anyways.. with no negative consequences for me. I don't use this as a way to connect to a bunch of diferent services, I'm using it as a tablet.</disclaimer>
definately don't do this unless you have the marketplace installed, along with homecatcher defaulting your n key to an alternative launcher.
home1.0 (home.apk)
chess
crossword
Applauncher.apk
social.apk
shop.apk
email.apk
reader.apk
b3androidreader.apk
netflix
pandora
browser.apk
flashplayer.apk
geniewidget.apk
huluplus
nookcommunity
quickofficeviewer
wwreader.apk
bnappinstaller.apk
bnauthenticationservice.apk
bncloudrequestsvc.apk
bnconnectivityservice.apk
bnpolicymanagersvc.apk
airruntime
cryptoserver.apk
demomode.apk
i'll probably wind up removing even more stuff.
and I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be suprised if one of those bn*apk's i removed broke ota updates, i have no way to be sure though.
Removed those from risho's post and everything is still working fine.
Updated OP with full list of apps that can be removed.
Question: how do you actually remove this stuff?
I'd like to remove the B&N bloatware but I'm not sure how do to that exactly.
Help?
You need to use a root file explorer and mount system as r/w and then go into /system/app
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jimmysuggs said:
Question: how do you actually remove this stuff?
I'd like to remove the B&N bloatware but I'm not sure how do to that exactly.
Help?
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I would use Titanium Backup to backup and then uninstall one by one. Unless someone created a script to do it...
Um is there any chance that someone could run me through the basics of titanium backup? I'm new to this stuff and have no idea how it works.
Do you use titanium backup to uninstall the B&N apps? Or just to back them up, in case you need them again? And if you don't actually use titanium backup to uninstall the apps, what do you use?
Clearly I'm in over my head, any help would be appreciated.
jimmysuggs said:
Um is there any chance that someone could run me through the basics of titanium backup? I'm new to this stuff and have no idea how it works.
Do you use titanium backup to uninstall the B&N apps? Or just to back them up, in case you need them again? And if you don't actually use titanium backup to uninstall the apps, what do you use?
Clearly I'm in over my head, any help would be appreciated.
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I just used it to back up everything. Then I delete whatever I want one by one with root explorer. My hope is that at some point the whole "block OTAs" issue is resolved and then I can reinstall all the B&N stuff.
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Antek App Manager
I used Antek App Manager which is free and allows you to freeze the apps which is like uninstalling them but it renames the files instead of removing them... then if it turns out one was important you can defrost the frozen app and it will work again. Or if it works out you can remove it permanently.
At least that is how I think it works...
Email apk
i replaced the stock email apk with the one Indirect gave us. It works fine in most aspects, but when I tried to open attachment, i would get a force close because of com.android.email.
Anybody ran into this as well?
Okay this is all great info, I think I understand how titanium backup works now.
Question for phon00b (or anyone who can answer it): why do you need root explorer to delete the stuff you don't need? Doesn't titanium backup do that, as well as back up? I see a feature in there for "uninstall," isn't that the same as delete?
I'm just wondering if I actually need to use root explorer (which I'm a little scared of) or if titanium backup will do the job just as well.
I doubt you need to use a root explorer. However, if you are scared of it, remember Titanium Backup has root access as well and can do as much damage as a root explorer if used "incorrectly." Backing up apps before uninstalling or simply freezing them, however, is *generally* safe, assuming you don't do it to something that the NT needs to boot. I prefer to use Titanium Backup in most instances.
No particular reason, really. I'm just used to doing it that way. I'm sure deleting through titanium will yield the same result.
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Here's what I did. I use this app called, SystemApp Remover. It has this inbuilt 'Assist' facility, which kinda guides you to tell which apps are absolutely safe to remove. I used it to remove almost all bloatware that showed up safe to delete.
So far, i've removed almost all of Indirect's list, and also Library, Gallery, Music as well. It still works fine.
So i checked out system app remover but i gotta say, it worries me a bit. There are so many green apps (meaning potentially safe to remove) in there that it makes me wonder. Can all those apps really be safe to remove? Has anyone out there actually removed some (or all) of these apps?
jimmysuggs said:
So i checked out system app remover but i gotta say, it worries me a bit. There are so many green apps (meaning potentially safe to remove) in there that it makes me wonder. Can all those apps really be safe to remove? Has anyone out there actually removed some (or all) of these apps?
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Yes, most are safe to remove! I removed almost all of em, except the ones I knew were useful for me.
You can post here for help about an app if you are in doubt.
It's pretty safe to remove Soduko.apk and Library.apk too.
EDIT: I also removed telephonyprovider.apk without any issues (so far)
So this is my first Android phone, I just rooted it this morning and got ROM toolbox installed. Am I okay to go in and freeze or uninstall all these crappy bloat apps? I noticed in another thread that people were freezing a ton of apps instead of uninstalling - is there any particular reason for this? ROM toolbox apparently gives me the option to uninstall every app that's listed. Is freezing just a better idea for safety reasons? This is all very new to me but I'd like to uninstall as much of this bloat as possible.
Also, are there any other "must have" apps or fixes/tweaks that I should do now that I have root access?
You can uninstall the bloated verizon crap if you want, but some things may not work properly afterwards. i think that's why we usually freeze instead of uninstall.
what you can do instead is make a backup of any/all junk you want to remove. that way it's always there to reinstall if you find your phone not working properly.
if you plan on installing a custom ROM, then none of this even matters. Uninstall to your hearts content. But we typically like original backups of the whole system in case something F's up.
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You can uninstall the bloated verizon crap if you want, but some things may not work properly afterwards. i think that's why we usually freeze instead of uninstall.
what you can do instead is make a backup of any/all junk you want to remove. that way it's always there to reinstall if you find your phone not working properly.
if you plan on installing a custom ROM, then none of this even matters. Uninstall to your hearts content. But we typically like original backups of the whole system in case something F's up.
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This is sorta of off topic, but can you make a backup of everything? I was stupid and uninstalled something i shouldnt have now the I cant login to my google account anywhere on the phone. Could you do this for me and send me the files(s)? It would be a god send.
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This is sorta of off topic, but can you make a backup of everything? I was stupid and uninstalled something i shouldnt have now the I cant login to my google account anywhere on the phone. Could you do this for me and send me the files(s)? It would be a god send.
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Actually, I did the same thing to a couple of apps before I realized what was going on. Then I got titanium backup after posting here and backed everything up, minus the files I uninstalled. It was mostly some random Samsung bloat apps. Everything seems to be working fine, so I don't think I did any damage.
I'll see if I can get the backup uploaded and I'll send you a PM with the link.
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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uberpippi said:
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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uberpippi said:
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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1. Well, if you have the space to spare then obviously freezing would be more convenient than having to go to the Play Store every time you want to re-install it... however I highly doubt that an app like that would run on boot or hog any resources while not in use, so why not just leave it there? Another option if you need space on your phone storage would be to do a backup of any apps you don't use (backups will save to the sd card) and simply restore them when needed. There are ways to find out what apps are hogging resources when not in use, but I don't know off hand so you'll have to do your own search for that info.
2. This is just a matter of convenience as well... the rom developer is simply making your life easier by including popular apps right off the bat saving you the hassle of going to the Play Store to install them one by one. If you feel more comfortable going to the Play Store anyway... well then do so. It's the same apps either way so there's really no difference.