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Since clockwork doesnt check for verification, what if i flashed, say, a Nexus one or Incred rom... what would happen?
Im asking this first so i dont get a brick
I going to go with a brick, But i heard some one on one of these forums talking about how he flashed the radios for the evo on his eris and it didnt brick, He also did a bunch of other stuff that "should" have bricked his phone but did not.
So basically what im saying here is i have no clue, lol
Well i just tried flashing the Incredible MIUI rom. Nothing happened so now im nandroiding.
Anyway when is that rom gonna come to us??
Nikolai2.1 said:
Well i just tried flashing the Incredible MIUI rom. Nothing happened so now im nandroiding.
Anyway when is that rom gonna come to us??
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no clue, but using clockwork on your eris is like playing Russian Roulette, eventually you're going to shoot yourself in the head.
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no clue, but using clockwork on your eris is like playing Russian Roulette, eventually you're going to shoot yourself in the head.
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My Eris is weird. Whenever i flash clockwork i can only get to it via rom manager. Whenever I hold vol up and power it takes me to Amon Ra.... I use Amon Ra, just flashed clockwork today. I guess my Eris is telling me NO!
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My Eris is weird. Whenever i flash clockwork i can only get to it via rom manager. Whenever I hold vol up and power it takes me to Amon Ra.... I use Amon Ra, just flashed clockwork today. I guess my Eris is telling me NO!
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Ya that's how mine works too. If you flash it from Rom Manager it won't replace Amon Ra for some reason. Guess it's a good thing though in case clockwork decides to be bad haha.
Well, I'm speculating here, because I've never used Clockwork, but I did notice in a past posting here about nandroid backups under clockwork, that it makes a backup copy of the recovery partition in every backup.
I suppose that might mean that it only temporarily flashes clockwork into place in the recovery and then restores the recovery partition when it finishes (if a nandroid restore has not taken place)...?
I can't imagine why it would make recovery partition backups unless it intended to use them... during restores.
That's just a guess, but it is consistent with your observations.
bftb0
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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I couldnt post this there, so im posting it here
I've flashed 2 other versions of this rom successfully in the past. The only difference is this time is factory reset it first. Then attempted to flash the rom. the Rom gave me an error, and thats when the bootlooping started.
I tried factory resetting, deleting cache, leaving battery out for 30 seconds.
Im stuck at the Moto screen
SO, what do i do? is there any pertinent information im leaving out?
Your going to want to flash the sbf, full instructions are in a thread in the development section, don't have access to the link at the moment I'm mobile, sorry mate.
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ok.
Is there any way to make sure this doesnt happen again? This is such a process
You could also try plugging the phone into a wall when its off to see if you can get into BSR and either restore a backup or try to flash again.
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Is there any way to make sure this doesnt happen again? This is such a process
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It IS a bit of a process to go thorough. Part of the price to pay if you're gonna modify, I guess. If the suggestion above about trying the BSR program (Bootstrap Recovery program, also called "System Recovery" in app drawer) doesn't work for you, then SBF to stock, which should get you back live, then flash P3 rooted Gingerbread, then Eclipse. That will work. All the links with instructions and downloads have been graciously provided here by our Moderator, The Clown.
As you already know, Eclipse has loaded fairly easily in the past, and wiping data is the recommended procedure. While not absolutly necessary, it has helped others resolve problems they had after loading Eclipse in the past, so I wouldn't be afraid to do it. It's hard for anyone to say for sure why this happened to you this time. The process is a bit touchy, reqireing you to follow the instructions exactly - including, for example, plugging in the phone to a wall charger while using the System Recovery program. Perhaps you inadvertently left out some step along the way.
I dont THINK i did, but hey, i wouldnt doubt it.
Anywho, just for an update, im now pre-rooted GB, waiting for nitro to update the eclipse rom.
Problem is now, i dont have 3g. i tried *228 multiple times
Robin M said:
...the links with instructions and downloads have been graciously provided here by our Moderator, The Clown.
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Thats MR. Clown to you!
lacross said:
I dont THINK i did, but hey, i wouldnt doubt it.
Anywho, just for an update, im now pre-rooted GB, waiting for nitro to update the eclipse rom.
Problem is now, i dont have 3g. i tried *228 multiple times
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Whenever I have had to sbf back to froyo, I have always done the *228 before I installed the GB update.
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Thats MR. Clown to you!
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Opps.
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I dont THINK i did, but hey, i wouldnt doubt it.
Anywho, just for an update, im now pre-rooted GB, waiting for nitro to update the eclipse rom.
Problem is now, i dont have 3g. i tried *228 multiple times
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Reflash the sbf, activate the phone, reflash P3Droids update, wipe data/cache/dalvik from custom recovery, flash Eclipse v0.3/4 wichever now that he has a newer release.... I had to do this yesterday as I wiped when I didnt get a homescreen after flashing Eclipse.
So I am pretty new to these forums, as well as the whole android hacking community. I recently got a droid x 2 and thought I would take a shot at the whole rooting thing. I used the Motorola 1 click Root process and was able to root with no problems. I then downloaded the droidx2 recovery bootstrap and created a backup. After creating the backup, I attempted to flash eclipse (v 0.5). After it installed, I rebooted from the bootstrap and now I am stuck in a bootloop. The startup animation has changed to the droid bionic(one of the features of eclipse) so I am assuming the ROM installed somewhat correctly. Just wondering if anyone can help me here.
Thanks
-Noob D:
Did you wipe data / cache? If not, do so.
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So I am pretty new to these forums, as well as the whole android hacking community. I recently got a droid x 2 and thought I would take a shot at the whole rooting thing. I used the Motorola 1 click Root process and was able to root with no problems. I then downloaded the droidx2 recovery bootstrap and created a backup. After creating the backup, I attempted to flash eclipse (v 0.5). After it installed, I rebooted from the bootstrap and now I am stuck in a bootloop. The startup animation has changed to the droid bionic(one of the features of eclipse) so I am assuming the ROM installed somewhat correctly. Just wondering if anyone can help me here.
Thanks
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does it actually bootloop, aka do a restart after a while? or does it just sit at the bionic boot screen for a really long time?
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Did you wipe data / cache? If not, do so.
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Haha that's exactly what my friend told me to do. Working now, finally got my first ROM to start working...took me 3 days
Thanks for the help though!
morlakai said:
Haha that's exactly what my friend told me to do. Working now, finally got my first ROM to start working...took me 3 days
Thanks for the help though!
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Whenever flashing a ROM, even an updated version, usually do a wipe/data reset by default. If you get a bootloop after that, then that's something to worry about possibly.
I had the same problem when i flashed version .04. I pulled the battery after it bootlooped, and went into stock recovery and did factory/reset and it fixed it.
Actually, I'm not sure I went wrong somewhere, just didn't understand things right.
I rooted about a month ago.
I unlocked today using skuddy's electrify.zip that was posted here (and the other site).
After I unlocked (temp and full), I installed CWM, and booted to that, and did a Nandroid backup, then reboot.
Now the Electrify is acting like I wiped it, where I never told it to do so. Does unlocking it wipe it? Or does performing the backup wipe it? Neither make much sense.
Maybe restoring the nandroid backup would have answered that (if the unlock wiped it, the nandroid restore would do nothing for me) but instead I just re-rooted, installed Titanium from my SD card, and am now restoring my backups.
I just downloaded joker's latest (0.6.1) CM9/ICS, but I'll worry about that tomorrow.
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Actually, I'm not sure I went wrong somewhere, just didn't understand things right.
I rooted about a month ago.
I unlocked today using skuddy's electrify.zip that was posted here (and the other site).
After I unlocked (temp and full), I installed CWM, and booted to that, and did a Nandroid backup, then reboot.
Now the Electrify is acting like I wiped it, where I never told it to do so. Does unlocking it wipe it? Or does performing the backup wipe it? Neither make much sense.
Maybe restoring the nandroid backup would have answered that (if the unlock wiped it, the nandroid restore would do nothing for me) but instead I just re-rooted, installed Titanium from my SD card, and am now restoring my backups.
I just downloaded joker's latest (0.6.1) CM9/ICS, but I'll worry about that tomorrow.
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Pretty sure unlocking wipes it.
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Okay thanks. So I can throw out my nandroid backup since it is a backup of nothing?
Just wish I knew that going in. Oh well lesson learned, and not too harsh a lesson compared with something like a brick or boot loop.
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so there is an unlock to the2.3.5 bootloader now? !?!? must research! i saw some guy post last night on he about following teamuscellular and someone there temporary unlocked and flashed a custom rom. i couldn't find it though
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moparfreak426 said:
so there is an unlock to the2.3.5 bootloader now? !?!? must research! i saw some guy post last night on he about following teamuscellular and someone there temporary unlocked and flashed a custom rom. i couldn't find it though
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ONLY IF YOUR ELECTRIFY CAME WITH 2.3.5!!!! If you started with 2.3.4 and upgraded to 2.3.5, you are SCREWED!!!
Sorry for yelling, haha... Don't want to give you false hope!
If your Electrify came with 2.3.5, like mine did, YES you can unlock it. The unlock is temporary, but you then make it permanent.
I think you need to root first? Not sure. I used the torpedo method. Might as well go to Team US Cellular, they have all the Electrify-specific stuff in one place. The torpedo method can be found here, but it's spread across several posts. gr33nd3vil over on TUSCC has it all in one post. Torpedo is easy, they tell you everything. Pretty much.
Once rooted, unlock with the electrify.zip. It's in TUSCC's download section. The .zip comes with instructions. It's pretty clear, and easy to follow.
Everyone says to install drivers, during both procedures? This is more CYA than anything. On Windows 7, the drivers were automatically installed.
I'm fairly new at this, but I will help you where I can, if I can. Shoot me a PM anytime, here or on TUSCC (same name), but I'm up here more often. Though, I think Tapatalk will tell me if I get a PM, regardless.
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ONLY IF YOUR ELECTRIFY CAME WITH 2.3.5!!!! If you started with 2.3.4 and upgraded to 2.3.5, you are SCREWED!!!
Sorry for yelling, haha... Don't want to give you false hope!
If your Electrify came with 2.3.5, like mine did, YES you can unlock it. The unlock is temporary, but you then make it permanent.
I think you need to root first? Not sure. I used the torpedo method. Might as well go to Team US Cellular, they have all the Electrify-specific stuff in one place. The torpedo method can be found here, but it's spread across several posts. gr33nd3vil over on TUSCC has it all in one post. Torpedo is easy, they tell you everything. Pretty much.
Once rooted, unlock with the electrify.zip. It's in TUSCC's download section. The .zip comes with instructions. It's pretty clear, and easy to follow.
Everyone says to install drivers, during both procedures? This is more CYA than anything. On Windows 7, the drivers were automatically installed.
I'm fairly new at this, but I will help you where I can, if I can. Shoot me a PM anytime, here or on TUSCC (same name), but I'm up here more often. Though, I think Tapatalk will tell me if I get a PM, regardless.
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OK. i need to do something to my electrify to get a replacement and hope it has unlocked bootloader. any suggestions as to what i can do?
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moparfreak426 said:
OK. i need to do something to my electrify to get a replacement and hope it has unlocked bootloader. any suggestions as to what i can do?
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i got a replacement phone and it also has locked bootloader
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