Wow, just wait for genius chef if they can make this device capable of running android. Not sure how can we invite them to start working on this.
Can we all make a combined request to great chefs of Android as they made it possible for HD2 so nothing is impossible for them.
I have to ask: why would we possibly want Android when we have WP7? Surely we would all have bought Nexus S' if we wanted Android :S
Wrong answer.
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
djfuego said:
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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Since this phone uses android like hardware that could maybe not be the thing on the mozart, but even so.
I totally agree that it is a waste of time
I want to see Android!! I was not able to purchase the HTC Desire HD... this was the best i could get. So why not have the option to play around....
.....*Sigh*
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
I want a phone that can duel boot WP7 and Androd.
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
ds4 said:
i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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Then why the hell did you buy a WP7 phone?! And just so that you know, "M$" went out of fashion like 10 years ago, and just makes you seem like a bit of a stuck up idiot.
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... just want android.
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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Well, I have no doubt on your opinion, in fact most of the people would have same opinion, Don't you think its a very simple thing that one can't miss, if we want android then go and buy android,
but according to me there are two ways to live life, one simplest way and second to go beyond limit and do something different.
if we buy android then there is near to impossible to enjoy windows 7 but if we have wp7 then there is possibility to enjoy android and that's in bl** single device wow. no need to have two sim two phone to enjoy life.
After all that's my desire that One day Chef will come and listen to us.
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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you are wrong..... Microsoft will know which phone been modified from HD2 by using hardware id..... muahahaha.... you are using illegal OS....
Afaik Mozart is the only handset with a 1ghz+ CPU and a Xenon flash that is "potentially" capable of running android, that fact alone makes it worth modding on imo. Would be fun to see if someone got it working, but right now I'm hoping the motoroi 2 will come out soon =)
Edit: And about legality - many countries (like norway) have laws that forbid EULAs that restrict using other software on your hardware, effectively nullifying that concern
im looking for experiment like this, run android on mozart or any wp7 phone.
Would be great, but i think there isn't a big community for Mozart 7, and special for Android on Mozart
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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your live id is stored in the phones registry
If you are running androind there is no access to that
How could microsoft ban you, magic?
Running androind i would have thought it's pretty clear you wont have access to live functions
but aside from that.
Running custom roms are 'fun' and it's why these forums exist
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it is possible? my htc hero can runn windows mobile??
smokeeboy said:
it is possible? my htc hero can runn windows mobile??
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No you can not.
Why would you?
"There's so many ways for me to say this to you - Never, Not in a million years, absolutely not, no way hose, no chance Lance, net, negatorie, mm, nah, aa, and of course my own personal favorite of all time - man falling of of a cliff, Nooooooooouuuuu...!"
AdrianK said:
"There's so many ways for me to say this to you - Never, Not in a million years, absolutely not, no way hose, no chance Lance, net, negatorie, mm, nah, aa, and of course my own personal favorite of all time - man falling of of a cliff, Nooooooooouuuuu...!"
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in french: NON lol
Jose...........
It's Jose.
*Slaps forehead*
That's what you get for copying quotes off facebook pages, peeps.
wow y would u even want to run windows mobile... I had a tmobile wing once - - - dont get me started on that phone lol.
lol im sry but even if i knew how i wouldnt tell ya cause its stupid idea.
why would you want windows mobile on your phone, well for decent media play back i.e films that you don't need to convert before you put on the phone, I've got both a android and windows phone, and personally I find the experience better on android, but converting films is a drag.
I don't see why you want to downgrade your phone
knowledge is power
I don't think this is such a bad idea actually it's kind of good for us having someone asking this...IS NOT ABOUT DOWNGRADING your beloved hero it's about the challenge it would be to do it and the KNOWLEDGE we would get by doing so...
Currently a lot of our great developers at XDA are focused on bringing android to our WM phones and they have done a great job so far using only reverse engineering methods, patience and a certainly huge amount of cups of coffee...so how about seeing things from a different angle? just imagine the possibilities if we can make WM work in an originally Android designed phone ,i bet you if someone dares to do it,not only the android porting project will benefit from this but several other open source mobile platforms that are already here[Maemo] and others to come [MeeGo], They all have one purpose bringing the end user a better and richer mobile experience which is the same reason i believe this forum was created for so...
Why not giving it a try?
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up up up
sorry
android is a open source OS
windows mobile is not
so you can change android kernel to run on other device
windows mobile nope
I love android for this
I hate windows mobile for this
with a boot loader : you cant
and i know you don't want windows mobile on your brilliant android phone
hahaha
One time I saw a thread in the Rhodium forums where they were trying to find evidence of an Android user trying to port Windows Mobile to their phone. I didn't think it would ever happen...
Hmmm a challenge
Sounds like a great challenge, something to really upset the a few people who wander around bragging about they're "completed" operating systems (yeah right, 15 years as an IT Consultant and I've yet to hear Microsoft claim to complete anything).
Android is a PITA and not as flexible as I was told it would be - nowhere near as flexible as linux was meant to be - I wonder if its possible to go the rest of the way and compile a linux for our android phones that runs natively. Then we can really put windows phones to shame.
doofah said:
I wonder if its possible to go the rest of the way and compile a linux for our android phones that runs natively.
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Well, of course it's possible, seeing how it's already been done. I don't know about your phone, but my CDMA Hero is most definitely running Linux natively.
So it's already running on a Linux kernel with a reasonable command line environment. It might be useful to compile a more complete set of GNU utilities for it.
Android is, in basic terms, just the GUI that's running on top of Linux. There are plenty of other GUIs designed for small devices with limited resources. Porting one of them over to run on top of the existing Linux environment shouldn't be too terribly tough.
The real trick, I would guess, would be getting all the hardware bits to work. Writing apps that can access the phone radio, gps, audio, etc.... All of those things are currently accessed through APIs that Android provides. If you remove Android, and those APIs, then there's a great deal of work to be done to make those things functional again.
So if you just want a handheld Linux box, that's easy. If you want all of the hardware features to work, and to still be able to use it as a phone, just with Android stripped out, then you've got a LOT of work ahead.
they have already ported android to win mobile it is possible to reverse see as win mobile does not have alot of anti piracy safeguards
wnathanball said:
they have already ported android to win mobile it is possible to reverse see as win mobile does not have alot of anti piracy safeguards
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???
Maybe if you wrote complete sentences with proper punctuation, this might parse.
well am with original poster on this I for one would love and prefer to see Winmo on my hero.... I find android such a dam pain.... I have both winmo(on my kaiser) and android... But only use droid for a toy and playing games. where as I much prefer my winmo for Work and navigation... At least with Winmo theres no reliance on flippin data, Which isa pain in the butt with droid..
So come on you tech Geeks show us what you are made of...Port Winmo to hero... let us have the choice...
WM On Hero.......
say what you will about Android Vs WM but I believe WM is just perfect for me. If hero could support WM then please someone anyone help me get it on mine. I loved the convenience of WM. On my Blackstone Sync was not a problem. I get all my emails and my contacts in the same place. With Android I have to sync via G-Mail. For being open source this is a huge price for me to pay. Now I have to change my email address and redirect all my clients to G-mail so I get all my mail.
anybody recommend switching to android?
elpirruris said:
anybody recommend switching to android?
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Check the activity of the Android forums compared to this one. That should answer your question. Currently Android requires some parts of WinMo to work, but I use a very small version of WinMo, ChuckyDroid ROM.
Android development is thriving. WinMo 6.x development is dead. In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
Well, I guess it depends on the compatibility issues of the software you use. In my case, right now, I cannot leave WinMo as of yet because of that.
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In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
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No way for me
I've had the Nexus One for the last 5 months and Android running on the Hd2 is like a car without oil in the engine: VERY ROUGH
For someone who hasn't had a Nexus One yet then yeah the Android port will be fine for you and you wont know the difference but for me I can DEF feel it and it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Lag + not everything works = I'd rather have WinMo 6.5 for the rest of the Hd2's life unless the can start making the Android versions smoother/work better.
polo735 said:
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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You need to flash radio so you CAN brick
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
jonny68 said:
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
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i've got the same doubts. well and of course, i'm originally from austria so i'm wondering if there are any language packs or something like that available for the android roms. of course, i can deal with the english roms, but if i have the posibility i'd take the german rom or whatever.
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winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
polo735 said:
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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actually the worst thing you can do is kill your sd card, requiring purchase of new card.
That can get expensive after awhile.
nrfitchett4 said:
it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
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LoL +1
Your a wise man there nrfitchett4
I sold my Nexus One in order to buy an Hd2 for cheap off of craigslist knowing that I might never even run Android on it. I wanted to give Windows Mobile a chance and learn the basics before trying to port Android. Turns out it was the best decision I could have made since I actually prefer Windows Mobile more than Android!
People complaining about a phone they have already purchased need to get a life and better purchasing skills
I don't understand all this hype about Android. From what I have seen it's all over-hyped on the HD2. I went to the Android section expecting to be blown away by the amazing detail, features and screens of Android. Instead i've been underwhelmed and put off of Android. The Interface looks more like a step backwards about 10 years.
Where is the holy grail of Android for HD2 that is going to make us all want to switch to Android from WinMo?
Ok - I get it that for geeks Android might be the way forward as it's all open source and available to tinker with - but for people who just want a phone that works - WinMo 6.5x runs rings around Android. God help us when WinMo 7 arrives on the scene.
I understand that this may start a flaming session - but my mind is open to be converted - point the way.....show me the eye candy...
what making android not work 100% on htc hd2?
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vickythelizard said:
As we know the HTC HD2 is a very good phone let down by Windows 6.5 being the operating system, obviously the options that are currently open to us are to upgrade the ROM and install a snazzy new theme from this website or plonk Google Android on it.... however....
I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
Has anyone found or heard of any grounded evidence that this will happen or is it all a pipe dream?
All communications regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
- Thank you for your time and for reading this.
- Vicky
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I remember seeing free WM 7 update for HD2 few months back. But I don't think we will get it until the end of holiday season. Because they want to sell HD7 too.
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I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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.... I have counted the number of buttons on the HD7 and it is exactly the same number as on the HD2 but placed differently around the screene
HTC is playing a nice game with us
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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HTC HD2 - 5 buttons
HTC HD7 - 3 buttons
HD2 has enought buttons , obviously more than Windows Phone 7 needs
I heard it's actually because of the extra buttons.
Not entirely sure what to make of it - whether is was real or not just came across it and thought I'd share:
Windows Phone 7 Running on HTC HD2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk
HTC support told me that there will be upgrade for the HD2.
Windows Phone 7 devices should have only a Back-Button, Windows-Start-Button and a BING-Search-Button. Additional buttons can be e.g. Volumecontrol- or Cameracontrol-Buttons. The HD2 has no Search-Button and the Call-Accept/End-Buttons and the Home-Button are not supported natively by Windows Phone 7, thats why the HD2 never gets an official upgrade to WP7.
@TriniKing_CE: This video might be true. Cotulla is trying to port WP7 to the HD2 but he says it will be more difficult than expected! So you have to wait for a stable and full working rom!
Greez zyclop
vickythelizard said:
As we know the HTC HD2 is a very good phone let down by Windows 6.5 being the operating system, obviously the options that are currently open to us are to upgrade the ROM and install a snazzy new theme from this website or plonk Google Android on it.... however....
I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
Has anyone found or heard of any grounded evidence that this will happen or is it all a pipe dream?
All communications regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
- Thank you for your time and for reading this.
- Vicky
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I have to disagree, I do not think that the HD2 is "let down" by WM6.5.....
It is far and away the most versatile OS as far as I can see. Ok the actual WM interface is dated but I still find the windows version of sense to be much nicer than the android equivalent. I have been using android a lot lately and find it to be so much more restrictive than WM. However it cannot be denied that it is much more suitable for the "average user" ( I tried to phrase that without coming across as a techno snob )
As far as the free upgrade to WP7 is concerned Im afraid you were misinformed... It has been officially stated that this will not happen
c_arivazhagan said:
I remember seeing free WM 7 update for HD2 few months back. But I don't think we will get it until the end of holiday season. Because they want to sell HD7 too.
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Again I think you have either misread or been misinformed..........
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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Too many buttons..........
TriniKing_CE said:
Not entirely sure what to make of it - whether is was real or not just came across it and thought I'd share:
Windows Phone 7 Running on HTC HD2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk
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The general concensus is that this video comes from cotulla and if theres anyone that will bring WP7 to the HD2 it will be him (and the rest of DFT)
Theres a pretty good chance that vid is genuine however I wouldnt expect to see an actual release for a long time.......
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HTC support told me that there will be upgrade for the HD2.
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Nope...........
zyclop said:
Windows Phone 7 devices should have only a Back-Button, Windows-Start-Button and a BING-Search-Button. Additional buttons can be e.g. Volumecontrol- or Cameracontrol-Buttons. The HD2 has no Search-Button and the Call-Accept/End-Buttons and the Home-Button are not supported natively by Windows Phone 7, thats why the HD2 never gets an official upgrade to WP7.
@TriniKing_CE: This video might be true. Cotulla is trying to port WP7 to the HD2 but he says it will be more difficult than expected! So you have to wait for a stable and full working rom!
Greez zyclop
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Beat me to it...........
conantroutman said:
I have to disagree, I do not think that the HD2 is "let down" by WM6.5.....
It is far and away the most versatile OS as far as I can see. Ok the actual WM interface is dated but I still find the windows version of sense to be much nicer than the android equivalent. I have been using android a lot lately and find it to be so much more restrictive than WM. However it cannot be denied that it is much more suitable for the "average user" ( I tried to phrase that without coming across as a techno snob )
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I completely agree with that. WM 6.5 is a great OS and I really want to have a device running it. But most manufacturers have set up there priority to Android or Windows Phone 7. I preffer to buy a HD2, because it is the most exciting phone. It can run Android and maybe later WP7 if Cotulla get it working. But it also would be nice if any manufacturer like HTC bring out new WM 6.5 devices, because WM6.5 is not outdated.
I am a user which has no prejudices against any operating system. It is only a matter of taste which you want to have and which you need for your requirements. WM is almost the only OS, which is not addicted to any big concern. While using Android, Google is omnipresent, while using an iPhone you have restrictions from Apple everywhere. And on WM you can install what you want. I also can run non Microsoft software and if you want you can run Android by using HARET. Tell me any other OS which is able to perform a dualboot or wich is able to run a second OS parallel?! I guess there is NO!
where are the custom roms for titan?
is the developement totally dead?
was exited when i got my titan unlocked and now i have tried every custom rom there is out,
and running dynamics for now.. great and stable
but is there really not happening any more, just wondering if its time to move away from the windows phones...
Dude i dont know what u expected, there isnt much moding in WP u have what u have, why there isnt any custom ROM for iphone? Cause there cant be anything new, same with WP the simple but fiunctional
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Dude i dont know what u expected, there isnt much moding in WP u have what u have, why there isnt any custom ROM for iphone? Cause there cant be anything new, same with WP the simple but fiunctional
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maybe ive been spoiled by the android phones, just seems so dull with a phone that u can make phonecalls and sms only
kinda hoping that windows will be opened so that u can run anything on it without restrictions, maybe a total integration of everything
from samsung stores lg and nokia cooked into one phone with full update availability from the marketplace, alternative apps stores..
j_tag said:
where are the custom roms for titan?
is the developement totally dead?
was exited when i got my titan unlocked and now i have tried every custom rom there is out,
and running dynamics for now.. great and stable
but is there really not happening any more, just wondering if its time to move away from the windows phones...
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I don't see what you expect either...Windows Phone 8 is new and runs on the NT kernal, not CE as all of its predecessors have. You may have also noticed more and more devices have their batteries non-removal and there is no micro SD card for a few devices and there are others like the Samsung Ativ S that has a removal battery and a micro SD slot that guess what; Samsung isn't selling in the United States. Windows Phone platform is what it is; and then there are the iPhones and Android devices and if that's your cup of tea; terrific, there's room for all. I don't care about the marketplaces, what I care about is what many of us in the Windows Mobile universe enjoyed before and that is flash conventionally...download/sideload apps conventionally and stop with locking these devices down every way which way. One of the things I like about the Blackberry of old is its simplicity - a phone, SMS, E-Mail, a web browser and you know what...it's enough. There's a platform for every taste. Choice is yours dude!
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I don't see what you expect either...Windows Phone 8 is new and runs on the NT kernal, not CE as all of its predecessors have. You may have also noticed more and more devices have their batteries non-removal and there is no micro SD card for a few devices and there are others like the Samsung Ativ S that has a removal battery and a micro SD slot that guess what; Samsung isn't selling in the United States. Windows Phone platform is what it is; and then there are the iPhones and Android devices and if that's your cup of tea; terrific, there's room for all. I don't care about the marketplaces, what I care about is what many of us in the Windows Mobile universe enjoyed before and that is flash conventionally...download/sideload apps conventionally and stop with locking these devices down every way which way. One of the things I like about the Blackberry of old is its simplicity - a phone, SMS, E-Mail, a web browser and you know what...it's enough. There's a platform for every taste. Choice is yours dude!
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yes youre there are many of us out there and we all cant have the same taste
I love the simplicity of the user Interface in the Windows phones.. and thats the main reason
I personally would like to stick with the Windows phones.. But then theres the feeling that somethings missing, ITS built so well that theres no room for improwements in the basic functions
But i would like to have flash custom webbrowser Google intgrated for example
But maybe well se that in future updates
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yes youre there are many of us out there and we all cant have the same taste
I love the simplicity of the user Interface in the Windows phones.. and thats the main reason
I personally would like to stick with the Windows phones.. But then theres the feeling that somethings missing, ITS built so well that theres no room for improwements in the basic functions
But i would like to have flash custom webbrowser Google intgrated for example
But maybe well se that in future updates
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My Titan I (Eternity) - Windows Phone 7.8 is my "work" phone and to have it HSPL is like every phone I've had before...the common denominator is simplicity. But...of late Microsoft and carriers have done their level best to make the experience hard which frankly lacks common sense. The bottom line requires "all of us" not everybody pursuing an engineer/rocket science degree, not like a lot of folks are in the rocket business to start with now that robots go up in space now.
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
pef6000 said:
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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rowlie50 said:
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that