Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
pef6000 said:
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that
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anybody recommend switching to android?
elpirruris said:
anybody recommend switching to android?
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Check the activity of the Android forums compared to this one. That should answer your question. Currently Android requires some parts of WinMo to work, but I use a very small version of WinMo, ChuckyDroid ROM.
Android development is thriving. WinMo 6.x development is dead. In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
Well, I guess it depends on the compatibility issues of the software you use. In my case, right now, I cannot leave WinMo as of yet because of that.
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In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
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No way for me
I've had the Nexus One for the last 5 months and Android running on the Hd2 is like a car without oil in the engine: VERY ROUGH
For someone who hasn't had a Nexus One yet then yeah the Android port will be fine for you and you wont know the difference but for me I can DEF feel it and it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Lag + not everything works = I'd rather have WinMo 6.5 for the rest of the Hd2's life unless the can start making the Android versions smoother/work better.
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Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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You need to flash radio so you CAN brick
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
jonny68 said:
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
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i've got the same doubts. well and of course, i'm originally from austria so i'm wondering if there are any language packs or something like that available for the android roms. of course, i can deal with the english roms, but if i have the posibility i'd take the german rom or whatever.
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winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
polo735 said:
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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actually the worst thing you can do is kill your sd card, requiring purchase of new card.
That can get expensive after awhile.
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
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Your a wise man there nrfitchett4
I sold my Nexus One in order to buy an Hd2 for cheap off of craigslist knowing that I might never even run Android on it. I wanted to give Windows Mobile a chance and learn the basics before trying to port Android. Turns out it was the best decision I could have made since I actually prefer Windows Mobile more than Android!
People complaining about a phone they have already purchased need to get a life and better purchasing skills
I don't understand all this hype about Android. From what I have seen it's all over-hyped on the HD2. I went to the Android section expecting to be blown away by the amazing detail, features and screens of Android. Instead i've been underwhelmed and put off of Android. The Interface looks more like a step backwards about 10 years.
Where is the holy grail of Android for HD2 that is going to make us all want to switch to Android from WinMo?
Ok - I get it that for geeks Android might be the way forward as it's all open source and available to tinker with - but for people who just want a phone that works - WinMo 6.5x runs rings around Android. God help us when WinMo 7 arrives on the scene.
I understand that this may start a flaming session - but my mind is open to be converted - point the way.....show me the eye candy...
what making android not work 100% on htc hd2?
Wow, just wait for genius chef if they can make this device capable of running android. Not sure how can we invite them to start working on this.
Can we all make a combined request to great chefs of Android as they made it possible for HD2 so nothing is impossible for them.
I have to ask: why would we possibly want Android when we have WP7? Surely we would all have bought Nexus S' if we wanted Android :S
Wrong answer.
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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Since this phone uses android like hardware that could maybe not be the thing on the mozart, but even so.
I totally agree that it is a waste of time
I want to see Android!! I was not able to purchase the HTC Desire HD... this was the best i could get. So why not have the option to play around....
.....*Sigh*
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
I want a phone that can duel boot WP7 and Androd.
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even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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Then why the hell did you buy a WP7 phone?! And just so that you know, "M$" went out of fashion like 10 years ago, and just makes you seem like a bit of a stuck up idiot.
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... just want android.
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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Well, I have no doubt on your opinion, in fact most of the people would have same opinion, Don't you think its a very simple thing that one can't miss, if we want android then go and buy android,
but according to me there are two ways to live life, one simplest way and second to go beyond limit and do something different.
if we buy android then there is near to impossible to enjoy windows 7 but if we have wp7 then there is possibility to enjoy android and that's in bl** single device wow. no need to have two sim two phone to enjoy life.
After all that's my desire that One day Chef will come and listen to us.
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even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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you are wrong..... Microsoft will know which phone been modified from HD2 by using hardware id..... muahahaha.... you are using illegal OS....
Afaik Mozart is the only handset with a 1ghz+ CPU and a Xenon flash that is "potentially" capable of running android, that fact alone makes it worth modding on imo. Would be fun to see if someone got it working, but right now I'm hoping the motoroi 2 will come out soon =)
Edit: And about legality - many countries (like norway) have laws that forbid EULAs that restrict using other software on your hardware, effectively nullifying that concern
im looking for experiment like this, run android on mozart or any wp7 phone.
Would be great, but i think there isn't a big community for Mozart 7, and special for Android on Mozart
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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your live id is stored in the phones registry
If you are running androind there is no access to that
How could microsoft ban you, magic?
Running androind i would have thought it's pretty clear you wont have access to live functions
but aside from that.
Running custom roms are 'fun' and it's why these forums exist
I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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With Android, it never goes backwards...the only time I've seen phones change an operating system is when it's been WM to Android or iOS to Android. I don't think anyone has ever got an Android to run anything other than modifications of Android and I don't think it will ever happen. And woah you would need a massive team to rewrite WM for any Android and have anything really work...
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Thanks for your reply - for my money, it's the Droid that goes backwards, but anyway ...
If this is not to be, then I'll persist with the task of trying to engineer the Droid to do what I want it to
My long experience with Windows devices showed me that the hardware is not produced for a specific O/S, but rather the O/S is written to fit the hardware. So if we can replace the Droid bootloader, flashing a different ROM is possible
Just an FYI, when you say Droid instead of Android, it makes it seem like you're trying to troll.
Good luck on this though, I remember using WinMo 5 on my HTC 8125 nearly four years ago now and can definitely connect with WinMo appreciation to a certain point. I missed out on the WM6 and 6.5 parties, but I've only ever heard good things about (in regards to WM5).
my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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+1 (10 character).
I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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Paschalis said:
I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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lol that phone looked so good, and was so expensive!!
Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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I'm curious on this as well. I also date back to some of the first WinMo devices. 3125, 2125 (yeah, I owned that), 8125, etc. Not sure I'd want to go back to 6.5, but to each their own.
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Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
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+1 huge pet peeve
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Thanks - already have an HD2, over 15 months now. An excellent PDA but the Atrix hardware specs are a quantum leap
No one is developing software for WinMo 6.5 anymore, of course
OK, I appreciate that the nickname Droid unsettles people, so I won't use it anymore in posts here
From the answers here (much appreciated that people posted back), the short answer is that I'll have to re-engineer what I can. Not unexpected
...and if I could get HTC SENSE that ran on my HD2 on my ATRIX... as a widget. That would be fab. I still think that was a fabulous all in one application ...
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Hi.
This is my first post on xda, and I am hoping to learn a lot whilst I am here.
I am not expecting any help here, but there has been small hype about getting android onto this phone. And I understand that you may be critical about noobs like me expecting an easy fix from you.
I appreciate that the idea makes no sense from many perspectives, this is mine.
I purchased the windows 7 phone 3 months ago, I was a complete idiot and fell for the sales pitch, the salesman promised me the earth, he said I would be able to WiFi Tether on the next update, he told me it would be better then the android evo 4 that I wanted.
As you are probably aware, I am a complete fool. I have however spent many hours on the phone with a certain mobile phone outlett, and my provider, neither will help. And I am stuck with the phone till 2013.
The phone's buyback price has gone down to 1/3rd what it was on the day I bought the phone.
I have now made it my mission to get this phone to run android. I feel so strongly I may even remove the windows logo from the bottom of my touch-screen.
I have already researched some, and expect days more research before I'll be able to do, whatever it is I need to do.
I am and will be keeping a log, of all my research, and hopefully can use what I learn to help people out later on.
So....
Any comments, or questions or support?
CleverNoob
I have picked up a few things. And therefore want to clarify,
I don't want to dual boot the 2 OS's, I want to REMOVE windows 7 and replace it with Android.
From what I gather this means I need to develop an android ROM to work with the mozart, and then Flash it to the phone...?
So my logical mind tells me to look for the android ROM that works on the most similar spec phone.
I am however aware that the firmware or something is different in the mozart, from the HD7 and does not allow for certain android commands to work, therefore the ROM (gingerbread?) used on the HD7 will not be remotely compatible with the HD7?
It seems that there may be a few options for the actual flashing of the ROM already available... So I am going to concentrate on learning more about ROM development now.
If anyone wants to correct me, point me in the right direction, or hurl abuse at me... feel free to do so
I do not know all that much about ROM development.
What about drivers though? Sure it is fine for the chipset as there are Android devices with the same chipset (CPU and GPU)... Although the WiFi, bluetooth, radio etc. I guess it's built into the SoC?
Drivers for the screen, capacitive buttons, camera etc?
I think if you look around, you should be able to find a phone similar to htc mozart and the name which comes to my mind is Nexus one and htc desire...
Although it depends on you that you extract drivers from the OS of both of those android based phones then extract drivers from your mozart and compare if they have same chipset....
I really wonder if it's possible to do all this virtually instead of physically installing OSes on phones for development purposes.
You didnt give up did ya mate!
All of the Australia Telstra Community who got Conned into buying the Mozart over an iPhone due to This Service Provider not having a Contract with Apple are 'root'ing for your Success
just checking if i got it right...
you want android in the mozart just to enable wifi tethering.
well, FYI, its been done and done bro, just unlock your device and install any of the excellent custom ROMs here. my notebook is tethered to my mozart right now.
but if you want to further explore the capabilities of the hardware, no worries- many good samaritans are already doing that. explore the development forums here and thy shall learn!
take care!
Tethering is working now, even with Telstra and no unlocking (7720).
This is my first post too! I was about to post something like yours. I have an HTC Mozart too and I want to install an Android ROM on it though my reasons are different.
As a software developer I have no experience about ROM development but I'm very interested.
So what did you do until now? Any success?
where are the custom roms for titan?
is the developement totally dead?
was exited when i got my titan unlocked and now i have tried every custom rom there is out,
and running dynamics for now.. great and stable
but is there really not happening any more, just wondering if its time to move away from the windows phones...
Dude i dont know what u expected, there isnt much moding in WP u have what u have, why there isnt any custom ROM for iphone? Cause there cant be anything new, same with WP the simple but fiunctional
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Dude i dont know what u expected, there isnt much moding in WP u have what u have, why there isnt any custom ROM for iphone? Cause there cant be anything new, same with WP the simple but fiunctional
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maybe ive been spoiled by the android phones, just seems so dull with a phone that u can make phonecalls and sms only
kinda hoping that windows will be opened so that u can run anything on it without restrictions, maybe a total integration of everything
from samsung stores lg and nokia cooked into one phone with full update availability from the marketplace, alternative apps stores..
j_tag said:
where are the custom roms for titan?
is the developement totally dead?
was exited when i got my titan unlocked and now i have tried every custom rom there is out,
and running dynamics for now.. great and stable
but is there really not happening any more, just wondering if its time to move away from the windows phones...
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I don't see what you expect either...Windows Phone 8 is new and runs on the NT kernal, not CE as all of its predecessors have. You may have also noticed more and more devices have their batteries non-removal and there is no micro SD card for a few devices and there are others like the Samsung Ativ S that has a removal battery and a micro SD slot that guess what; Samsung isn't selling in the United States. Windows Phone platform is what it is; and then there are the iPhones and Android devices and if that's your cup of tea; terrific, there's room for all. I don't care about the marketplaces, what I care about is what many of us in the Windows Mobile universe enjoyed before and that is flash conventionally...download/sideload apps conventionally and stop with locking these devices down every way which way. One of the things I like about the Blackberry of old is its simplicity - a phone, SMS, E-Mail, a web browser and you know what...it's enough. There's a platform for every taste. Choice is yours dude!
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I don't see what you expect either...Windows Phone 8 is new and runs on the NT kernal, not CE as all of its predecessors have. You may have also noticed more and more devices have their batteries non-removal and there is no micro SD card for a few devices and there are others like the Samsung Ativ S that has a removal battery and a micro SD slot that guess what; Samsung isn't selling in the United States. Windows Phone platform is what it is; and then there are the iPhones and Android devices and if that's your cup of tea; terrific, there's room for all. I don't care about the marketplaces, what I care about is what many of us in the Windows Mobile universe enjoyed before and that is flash conventionally...download/sideload apps conventionally and stop with locking these devices down every way which way. One of the things I like about the Blackberry of old is its simplicity - a phone, SMS, E-Mail, a web browser and you know what...it's enough. There's a platform for every taste. Choice is yours dude!
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yes youre there are many of us out there and we all cant have the same taste
I love the simplicity of the user Interface in the Windows phones.. and thats the main reason
I personally would like to stick with the Windows phones.. But then theres the feeling that somethings missing, ITS built so well that theres no room for improwements in the basic functions
But i would like to have flash custom webbrowser Google intgrated for example
But maybe well se that in future updates
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yes youre there are many of us out there and we all cant have the same taste
I love the simplicity of the user Interface in the Windows phones.. and thats the main reason
I personally would like to stick with the Windows phones.. But then theres the feeling that somethings missing, ITS built so well that theres no room for improwements in the basic functions
But i would like to have flash custom webbrowser Google intgrated for example
But maybe well se that in future updates
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My Titan I (Eternity) - Windows Phone 7.8 is my "work" phone and to have it HSPL is like every phone I've had before...the common denominator is simplicity. But...of late Microsoft and carriers have done their level best to make the experience hard which frankly lacks common sense. The bottom line requires "all of us" not everybody pursuing an engineer/rocket science degree, not like a lot of folks are in the rocket business to start with now that robots go up in space now.