I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
ianl8888 said:
I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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With Android, it never goes backwards...the only time I've seen phones change an operating system is when it's been WM to Android or iOS to Android. I don't think anyone has ever got an Android to run anything other than modifications of Android and I don't think it will ever happen. And woah you would need a massive team to rewrite WM for any Android and have anything really work...
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Thanks for your reply - for my money, it's the Droid that goes backwards, but anyway ...
If this is not to be, then I'll persist with the task of trying to engineer the Droid to do what I want it to
My long experience with Windows devices showed me that the hardware is not produced for a specific O/S, but rather the O/S is written to fit the hardware. So if we can replace the Droid bootloader, flashing a different ROM is possible
Just an FYI, when you say Droid instead of Android, it makes it seem like you're trying to troll.
Good luck on this though, I remember using WinMo 5 on my HTC 8125 nearly four years ago now and can definitely connect with WinMo appreciation to a certain point. I missed out on the WM6 and 6.5 parties, but I've only ever heard good things about (in regards to WM5).
my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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+1 (10 character).
I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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Paschalis said:
I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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lol that phone looked so good, and was so expensive!!
Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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I'm curious on this as well. I also date back to some of the first WinMo devices. 3125, 2125 (yeah, I owned that), 8125, etc. Not sure I'd want to go back to 6.5, but to each their own.
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Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
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+1 huge pet peeve
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Thanks - already have an HD2, over 15 months now. An excellent PDA but the Atrix hardware specs are a quantum leap
No one is developing software for WinMo 6.5 anymore, of course
OK, I appreciate that the nickname Droid unsettles people, so I won't use it anymore in posts here
From the answers here (much appreciated that people posted back), the short answer is that I'll have to re-engineer what I can. Not unexpected
...and if I could get HTC SENSE that ran on my HD2 on my ATRIX... as a widget. That would be fab. I still think that was a fabulous all in one application ...
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anybody recommend switching to android?
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anybody recommend switching to android?
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Check the activity of the Android forums compared to this one. That should answer your question. Currently Android requires some parts of WinMo to work, but I use a very small version of WinMo, ChuckyDroid ROM.
Android development is thriving. WinMo 6.x development is dead. In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
Well, I guess it depends on the compatibility issues of the software you use. In my case, right now, I cannot leave WinMo as of yet because of that.
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In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
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No way for me
I've had the Nexus One for the last 5 months and Android running on the Hd2 is like a car without oil in the engine: VERY ROUGH
For someone who hasn't had a Nexus One yet then yeah the Android port will be fine for you and you wont know the difference but for me I can DEF feel it and it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Lag + not everything works = I'd rather have WinMo 6.5 for the rest of the Hd2's life unless the can start making the Android versions smoother/work better.
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Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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You need to flash radio so you CAN brick
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
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Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
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i've got the same doubts. well and of course, i'm originally from austria so i'm wondering if there are any language packs or something like that available for the android roms. of course, i can deal with the english roms, but if i have the posibility i'd take the german rom or whatever.
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winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
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Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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actually the worst thing you can do is kill your sd card, requiring purchase of new card.
That can get expensive after awhile.
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
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Your a wise man there nrfitchett4
I sold my Nexus One in order to buy an Hd2 for cheap off of craigslist knowing that I might never even run Android on it. I wanted to give Windows Mobile a chance and learn the basics before trying to port Android. Turns out it was the best decision I could have made since I actually prefer Windows Mobile more than Android!
People complaining about a phone they have already purchased need to get a life and better purchasing skills
I don't understand all this hype about Android. From what I have seen it's all over-hyped on the HD2. I went to the Android section expecting to be blown away by the amazing detail, features and screens of Android. Instead i've been underwhelmed and put off of Android. The Interface looks more like a step backwards about 10 years.
Where is the holy grail of Android for HD2 that is going to make us all want to switch to Android from WinMo?
Ok - I get it that for geeks Android might be the way forward as it's all open source and available to tinker with - but for people who just want a phone that works - WinMo 6.5x runs rings around Android. God help us when WinMo 7 arrives on the scene.
I understand that this may start a flaming session - but my mind is open to be converted - point the way.....show me the eye candy...
what making android not work 100% on htc hd2?
Can we expect to see a Windows 7 ROM for the hero ? or does it not work like that ?????
Seeing as though you have nearly 200 posts, you should know that this should have gone in GENERAL or QnA. Please remember this for next time.
As for Windows Phone on an Android handset,... Never,... as it is not open source. I'm pretty sure that is the only answer you will get.
my bad,, sorry about that,, thanks for the answer...
Would be cool though :b
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Seeing as though you have nearly 200 posts, you should know that this should have gone in GENERAL or QnA. Please remember this for next time.
As for Windows Phone on an Android handset,... Never,... as it is not open source apparently. I'm pretty sure that is the only answer you will get.
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Well you got almost 1000 posts and still you say "never"....no such thing at XDA.
I remember ppl saying that Android would "never" be ported to WM phones...guess what!
only snapdragons are supported currently, xda is amazing but they can't turn an armv6 into an armv7 with a finger snap
ya know, i get the fact that winmo has been completely redesigned etc. but .. ionno , if idd have the option to choose betwen android and winmo i would totally stick with android ^_^
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Seeing as though you have nearly 200 posts, you should know that this should have gone in GENERAL or QnA. Please remember this for next time.
As for Windows Phone on an Android handset,... Never,... as it is not open source. I'm pretty sure that is the only answer you will get.
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the only way it could be done is via virtual machine i *BELEIVE*. Youll need a powerful ass phone though to manage it, any phone in existance couldnt run it properly via vm due to requirements of additional power for virtualisation.
come to think of it, i dont know if any phone processor suports virtualisation...
Until VM Ware for mobiles gets released? I should Google that again, haven't seen any updates in a while.
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I remember ppl saying that Android would "never" be ported to WM phones...guess what!
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Yes well android is open source and can be modified. And even then, this was only done on a WinMo device very similar to an android one.
You can look at it by comparing Macs with PCs. Can you install windows on Macs? No! Why? Because Apple won't make hardware property drivers for Windows. The same here with Android and Winmo7. When HTC will release new phone with Winmo7 devs on xda will be able to port it to similar device with similar hardware, so drivers are more or less compatible. So I agree with ddotpatel that Hero won't have running Winmo7.
On another hand technically it is possible by using reverse engineering, but that is the hell of the work so I don't think someone can do that.
... or HTC have full stock of Hero hardware which they can't sell so to reduce costs they decide to design new model with Hero hardware running Winmo7. I personally think Hero could handle Winmo7 without problems.
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You can look at it by comparing Macs with PCs. Can you install windows on Macs?
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yes you can
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... or HTC have full stock of Hero hardware which they can't sell so to reduce costs they decide to design new model with Hero hardware running Winmo7. I personally think Hero could handle Winmo7 without problems.
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winmo7 has strict hardware requirements, MS would never allow it to be run on a low end phone like Hero.
Thread moved to Q&A.
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You can look at it by comparing Macs with PCs. Can you install windows on Macs? No! Why? Because Apple won't make hardware property drivers for Windows.
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You can.
Ps I see someone beat me
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You can.
Ps I see someone beat me
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Yeah, well, both of you did not get the point. I'm not talking about new macs who come now pre-installed with windows. I was talking about old times back when macs where only available with iOS and it was kinda cold war between macs and pcs.
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As we know the HTC HD2 is a very good phone let down by Windows 6.5 being the operating system, obviously the options that are currently open to us are to upgrade the ROM and install a snazzy new theme from this website or plonk Google Android on it.... however....
I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
Has anyone found or heard of any grounded evidence that this will happen or is it all a pipe dream?
All communications regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
- Thank you for your time and for reading this.
- Vicky
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I remember seeing free WM 7 update for HD2 few months back. But I don't think we will get it until the end of holiday season. Because they want to sell HD7 too.
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I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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.... I have counted the number of buttons on the HD7 and it is exactly the same number as on the HD2 but placed differently around the screene
HTC is playing a nice game with us
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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HTC HD2 - 5 buttons
HTC HD7 - 3 buttons
HD2 has enought buttons , obviously more than Windows Phone 7 needs
I heard it's actually because of the extra buttons.
Not entirely sure what to make of it - whether is was real or not just came across it and thought I'd share:
Windows Phone 7 Running on HTC HD2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk
HTC support told me that there will be upgrade for the HD2.
Windows Phone 7 devices should have only a Back-Button, Windows-Start-Button and a BING-Search-Button. Additional buttons can be e.g. Volumecontrol- or Cameracontrol-Buttons. The HD2 has no Search-Button and the Call-Accept/End-Buttons and the Home-Button are not supported natively by Windows Phone 7, thats why the HD2 never gets an official upgrade to WP7.
@TriniKing_CE: This video might be true. Cotulla is trying to port WP7 to the HD2 but he says it will be more difficult than expected! So you have to wait for a stable and full working rom!
Greez zyclop
vickythelizard said:
As we know the HTC HD2 is a very good phone let down by Windows 6.5 being the operating system, obviously the options that are currently open to us are to upgrade the ROM and install a snazzy new theme from this website or plonk Google Android on it.... however....
I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
Has anyone found or heard of any grounded evidence that this will happen or is it all a pipe dream?
All communications regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
- Thank you for your time and for reading this.
- Vicky
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I have to disagree, I do not think that the HD2 is "let down" by WM6.5.....
It is far and away the most versatile OS as far as I can see. Ok the actual WM interface is dated but I still find the windows version of sense to be much nicer than the android equivalent. I have been using android a lot lately and find it to be so much more restrictive than WM. However it cannot be denied that it is much more suitable for the "average user" ( I tried to phrase that without coming across as a techno snob )
As far as the free upgrade to WP7 is concerned Im afraid you were misinformed... It has been officially stated that this will not happen
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I remember seeing free WM 7 update for HD2 few months back. But I don't think we will get it until the end of holiday season. Because they want to sell HD7 too.
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Again I think you have either misread or been misinformed..........
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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Too many buttons..........
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Not entirely sure what to make of it - whether is was real or not just came across it and thought I'd share:
Windows Phone 7 Running on HTC HD2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk
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The general concensus is that this video comes from cotulla and if theres anyone that will bring WP7 to the HD2 it will be him (and the rest of DFT)
Theres a pretty good chance that vid is genuine however I wouldnt expect to see an actual release for a long time.......
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HTC support told me that there will be upgrade for the HD2.
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Nope...........
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Windows Phone 7 devices should have only a Back-Button, Windows-Start-Button and a BING-Search-Button. Additional buttons can be e.g. Volumecontrol- or Cameracontrol-Buttons. The HD2 has no Search-Button and the Call-Accept/End-Buttons and the Home-Button are not supported natively by Windows Phone 7, thats why the HD2 never gets an official upgrade to WP7.
@TriniKing_CE: This video might be true. Cotulla is trying to port WP7 to the HD2 but he says it will be more difficult than expected! So you have to wait for a stable and full working rom!
Greez zyclop
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Beat me to it...........
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I have to disagree, I do not think that the HD2 is "let down" by WM6.5.....
It is far and away the most versatile OS as far as I can see. Ok the actual WM interface is dated but I still find the windows version of sense to be much nicer than the android equivalent. I have been using android a lot lately and find it to be so much more restrictive than WM. However it cannot be denied that it is much more suitable for the "average user" ( I tried to phrase that without coming across as a techno snob )
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I completely agree with that. WM 6.5 is a great OS and I really want to have a device running it. But most manufacturers have set up there priority to Android or Windows Phone 7. I preffer to buy a HD2, because it is the most exciting phone. It can run Android and maybe later WP7 if Cotulla get it working. But it also would be nice if any manufacturer like HTC bring out new WM 6.5 devices, because WM6.5 is not outdated.
I am a user which has no prejudices against any operating system. It is only a matter of taste which you want to have and which you need for your requirements. WM is almost the only OS, which is not addicted to any big concern. While using Android, Google is omnipresent, while using an iPhone you have restrictions from Apple everywhere. And on WM you can install what you want. I also can run non Microsoft software and if you want you can run Android by using HARET. Tell me any other OS which is able to perform a dualboot or wich is able to run a second OS parallel?! I guess there is NO!
Is there such a thing? I saw a article that best buy was running a Droid Eris with Windows 7. Where can I get this and how stable is it? This thread is intended for Eris only. Looking for a Windows 7 ROM/OS for the HTC Droid Eris. I am using Amon_RA recovery now and my phones (2) are both on Cricket Carrier plans.
I think you've been misled. There are so many reasons that no matter what you try you'll never get Windows 7, assuming you mean the desktop Windows 7, running on the Eris. I doubt if you could get Windows Phone 7 running on the Eris, either. AFAIK, there's never been any version of Windows 7 compiled for ARM processors, only for x86 and x86-64. Even if it were, the hardware constraints of the Eris would be completely ludicrous to expect it to run a huge Windows 7 installation, even if the ROM actually ran from the SD card, which would be the only way it would fit since the internal flash memory of the Eris is too small.
I did a quick Google search and I couldn't easily find the article you mention. Do you have a link?
There is a launcher that looks like windows though. That's about as close as your going to get. There's a launcher that looks like desktop and another that looks like mobile.
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Wp7 was coded to only work with snapdragon processors. Running at 1ghz. If I remember correctly the Eris is somewhere in the ballpark of 518mhz.
If someone would've put the time and effort into rebuilding wp7 it could be possible. But why?
The Eris is the toughest and hardest to kill android phone I've ever played with
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Can someone post a link to the launcher that looks like WP7?
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Can someone post a link to the launcher that looks like WP7?
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i cant make any promises... but probably within the next few days im gonna make some cm7 ports and see what i can do with them.. currently my eris is on simple mobile so i cant test mms or anything until i find a way to flash it back..
this was my first android... and i just got my hands back on it... my fascinate is a PITA with reading my sdcards.. so i think i may show the eris community some love..
expect lg ui moto touchwiz xperia wp7/8 and maybe more.. but those will be my priorities.. if i can learn how aroma works i may make a all in one flashable... just gotta give me time to relearn the device and see whats been done in the few years since i last used it
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that