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Can we expect to see a Windows 7 ROM for the hero ? or does it not work like that ?????
Seeing as though you have nearly 200 posts, you should know that this should have gone in GENERAL or QnA. Please remember this for next time.
As for Windows Phone on an Android handset,... Never,... as it is not open source. I'm pretty sure that is the only answer you will get.
my bad,, sorry about that,, thanks for the answer...
Would be cool though :b
ddotpatel said:
Seeing as though you have nearly 200 posts, you should know that this should have gone in GENERAL or QnA. Please remember this for next time.
As for Windows Phone on an Android handset,... Never,... as it is not open source apparently. I'm pretty sure that is the only answer you will get.
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Well you got almost 1000 posts and still you say "never"....no such thing at XDA.
I remember ppl saying that Android would "never" be ported to WM phones...guess what!
only snapdragons are supported currently, xda is amazing but they can't turn an armv6 into an armv7 with a finger snap
ya know, i get the fact that winmo has been completely redesigned etc. but .. ionno , if idd have the option to choose betwen android and winmo i would totally stick with android ^_^
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Seeing as though you have nearly 200 posts, you should know that this should have gone in GENERAL or QnA. Please remember this for next time.
As for Windows Phone on an Android handset,... Never,... as it is not open source. I'm pretty sure that is the only answer you will get.
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the only way it could be done is via virtual machine i *BELEIVE*. Youll need a powerful ass phone though to manage it, any phone in existance couldnt run it properly via vm due to requirements of additional power for virtualisation.
come to think of it, i dont know if any phone processor suports virtualisation...
Until VM Ware for mobiles gets released? I should Google that again, haven't seen any updates in a while.
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I remember ppl saying that Android would "never" be ported to WM phones...guess what!
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Yes well android is open source and can be modified. And even then, this was only done on a WinMo device very similar to an android one.
You can look at it by comparing Macs with PCs. Can you install windows on Macs? No! Why? Because Apple won't make hardware property drivers for Windows. The same here with Android and Winmo7. When HTC will release new phone with Winmo7 devs on xda will be able to port it to similar device with similar hardware, so drivers are more or less compatible. So I agree with ddotpatel that Hero won't have running Winmo7.
On another hand technically it is possible by using reverse engineering, but that is the hell of the work so I don't think someone can do that.
... or HTC have full stock of Hero hardware which they can't sell so to reduce costs they decide to design new model with Hero hardware running Winmo7. I personally think Hero could handle Winmo7 without problems.
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You can look at it by comparing Macs with PCs. Can you install windows on Macs?
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yes you can
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... or HTC have full stock of Hero hardware which they can't sell so to reduce costs they decide to design new model with Hero hardware running Winmo7. I personally think Hero could handle Winmo7 without problems.
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winmo7 has strict hardware requirements, MS would never allow it to be run on a low end phone like Hero.
Thread moved to Q&A.
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You can look at it by comparing Macs with PCs. Can you install windows on Macs? No! Why? Because Apple won't make hardware property drivers for Windows.
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You can.
Ps I see someone beat me
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You can.
Ps I see someone beat me
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Yeah, well, both of you did not get the point. I'm not talking about new macs who come now pre-installed with windows. I was talking about old times back when macs where only available with iOS and it was kinda cold war between macs and pcs.
I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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With Android, it never goes backwards...the only time I've seen phones change an operating system is when it's been WM to Android or iOS to Android. I don't think anyone has ever got an Android to run anything other than modifications of Android and I don't think it will ever happen. And woah you would need a massive team to rewrite WM for any Android and have anything really work...
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Thanks for your reply - for my money, it's the Droid that goes backwards, but anyway ...
If this is not to be, then I'll persist with the task of trying to engineer the Droid to do what I want it to
My long experience with Windows devices showed me that the hardware is not produced for a specific O/S, but rather the O/S is written to fit the hardware. So if we can replace the Droid bootloader, flashing a different ROM is possible
Just an FYI, when you say Droid instead of Android, it makes it seem like you're trying to troll.
Good luck on this though, I remember using WinMo 5 on my HTC 8125 nearly four years ago now and can definitely connect with WinMo appreciation to a certain point. I missed out on the WM6 and 6.5 parties, but I've only ever heard good things about (in regards to WM5).
my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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+1 (10 character).
I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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lol that phone looked so good, and was so expensive!!
Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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I'm curious on this as well. I also date back to some of the first WinMo devices. 3125, 2125 (yeah, I owned that), 8125, etc. Not sure I'd want to go back to 6.5, but to each their own.
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Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
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+1 huge pet peeve
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Thanks - already have an HD2, over 15 months now. An excellent PDA but the Atrix hardware specs are a quantum leap
No one is developing software for WinMo 6.5 anymore, of course
OK, I appreciate that the nickname Droid unsettles people, so I won't use it anymore in posts here
From the answers here (much appreciated that people posted back), the short answer is that I'll have to re-engineer what I can. Not unexpected
...and if I could get HTC SENSE that ran on my HD2 on my ATRIX... as a widget. That would be fab. I still think that was a fabulous all in one application ...
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I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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really? another thread about this?
to answer this so it can be locked or merged:
1. let's stop speculating about an OS which is at least 7 months if not a year out (for ARM) techincally windows will be able to run, but getting it to run is going to depend on a lot of things we don't have details about.
2. ubuntu should be portable, it's going to depend on the bootloader to a fair degree as to how easy it is to do.
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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yungballla6 said:
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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To be fair, you are like the 10th person to ask this question about a separate OS then the one it comes with. The answers is no one knows. Just like no one knows if Win8 will be worth a damn.
Windows 8... maybe, but there's an awful lot of unknowns there.
I'd love to have the Prime dual-boot with a Linux distro though, and that seems quite feasible (though the bootloader is an unknown; I have faith in XDA though!). That really would make it into a full netbook.
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Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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in the time it took to open this thread you could have found that it has already been covered.
in this day of instant information, it just irks me when people don't take the time to find what's already there.
yungballla6 said:
I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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Idk about win8 (like others have said there's a thread for that) but as for linux, many devices have been able to boot Ubuntu and bt5 on top with root using chroot and androidvnc. I'm sure it will work considering I've run both on my g2x. There's a thread here on xda for those but currently at work and don't have efficient access to that link. Think its in the nexus s forums?
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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If your a hacker or linux based nerd, then I get Ubuntu. power is king in code crunching. But Windows? Anyone needing windows on the move is 90% working. I dont think you need that much power for that.
If i could boot a windows 8 install off an SD Card in the dock i would be alllllllllllll about that.
i want to put the blackberry playbook OS on it, but emulated inside ICS, and then i can run android apps, emulated through the playbook OS, which is emulated through android. possibly while running an snes emulator.
it's going to be so meta, and you all will be so jealous. :|
There are many threads about Windows 8. The Prime has the Tegra 3 chip which will be supported in Windows 8 and most likely several Linux flavors. We'll see. No let's stop discussing this for the next couple months.
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
benzas said:
best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
Will you be able to run MS excel with VB editing and running it if/when prime gets Win 8?
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
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same here.
At the moment the solution that worked for original Transformer and phones was ok but I would love to actually boot it off a usb drive or SDcard and not have to run the GUI over VNC.
Although Backtrack devs have said that the ARM image released is only for testing and they wont be supporting it. Hopefully they start to fully support it as tablets become more powerful.
Hey does android run on this thing?
/sarcasm
Windows 8 Thread from NOVEMBER: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283
What? Microsoft missed their mark here. I don't see them making a dent on the tablet market that it's rival Google has a hold of.
Is it possible to dual boot windows phone 7 onto the Verizon droid x2?
I know you can dual boot it on the HTC HD2.
Also, I'm new here and don't know much but if you can't dual boot it is there a ROM that would get me something really close to WP7 on my droid x2? or is that like the same thing as dual booting?
I know all about the apps that make your phone look like WP7(launcher 7, etc..) so no need to talk about those.
Any help would be appreciated,
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Is it possible to dual boot windows phone 7 onto the Verizon droid x2?
I know you can dual boot it on the HTC HD2.
Also, I'm new here and don't know much but if you can't dual boot it is there a ROM that would get me something really close to WP7 on my droid x2? or is that like the same thing as dual booting?
I know all about the apps that make your phone look like WP7(launcher 7, etc..) so no need to talk about those.
Any help would be appreciated,
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There is a ROM that ia WP7 themed but mostly through the apps that you have mentioned above...and as far as I am aware the dual booting is not an option...although I am sure I will be corrected of I am off base
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If tou head over to the development forum though there are some awesome ROMs that we have available...lot of food devs...Eclipse 2.1 with the Core Droid theme happens it be my favorite. Eclipse in mt opinion is the most stable that we have available...many other tweaks and mods there too for you to check out
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johndeer said:
Is it possible to dual boot windows phone 7 onto the Verizon droid x2?
I know you can dual boot it on the HTC HD2.
Also, I'm new here and don't know much but if you can't dual boot it is there a ROM that would get me something really close to WP7 on my droid x2? or is that like the same thing as dual booting?
I know all about the apps that make your phone look like WP7(launcher 7, etc..) so no need to talk about those.
Any help would be appreciated,
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Go to this thread. Peperm1nt has a ROM for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17868583
This ISN'T my Transformer Prime
I would assume the locked BL would keep us from doing anything like this. The Android's kernel would need to be replaced with whatever WP7 uses. Plus would the X2's hardware even be compatible with WP7? I don't know very much at all when it comes to WP7.
Unfortunately, we cannot dual boot at all....
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No chance
Moto's locked bootloader would prevent us from loading another linux kernel, much less a WP7 kernel, in addition to the fact that we'd need a WP7 kernel compiled for the Tegra2, and WP7 drivers for all the hardare on the X2. Since WP7 is closed source, the only possible way you can expect that is if Motorola unlocks the bootloader (looking more and more unlikely every day) and Microsoft compiles a version of WP7 for the X2 (Not a chance)
The only reason the HD2 was able to run WP7 is because it was made for WP7. But Microsoft turned it down. Thats what I get from wikipedia anyway. lol. I've never heard of any other phone other than the HD2 being able to run WP7. On top of that, like others have said, our phones cant dual boot anything due to the locked bootloader. But even then, I dont even know if it would be possible then either.
Thanks for all the responses everyone.
But I think I decided I just want to switch to a windows phone. I would Like the nokia lumia 800 or 900 but I am on Verizon and I don't want to spend $600 on a phone. Does anyone know a way or place where I can just like trade my phone in for one and only pay like $100 or something? But i feel like that doesn't happen except on shady parts of the internet lol
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The only reason the HD2 was able to run WP7 is because it was made for WP7. But Microsoft turned it down. Thats what I get from wikipedia anyway. lol. I've never heard of any other phone other than the HD2 being able to run WP7. On top of that, like others have said, our phones cant dual boot anything due to the locked bootloader. But even then, I dont even know if it would be possible then either.
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It would undoubtedly require some strong changes in the Linux source included with our phones, but it can definitely be done. Unfortunately kernels are not my strong suit when it comes to Linux, so I myself would have very limited knowledge for actually doing it. I'll have to read up on it.
Keep in mind though, all operating systems are designed specifically designed so that they will run on limited amounts of hardware, allowing the manufacturers licensed for making the hardware will bring larger profits for both groups. WP7 cannot natively be run on our phones. However, I think that pepperm1nt is still working on a full rework of his rom from the ground up, so that's something to look forward too if he is.
So...I just got an Android ~5 days ago. My friend told me to root the phone and get plain Android on it instead of HTC's bloated modified version of it. I'm not a newbie to SSH and managing linux via prompt (I assume rooting the phone is what that means?..) Anyway, I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been an iPhone user for...~2 years. I'm completely new to Android.
Can anyone start me on the right path, maybe give me some explanations as to what I'm actually doing? Does this void my warranty with Best Buy (probably...jailbreaking the iPhone does, but recovering from that is easy-peezy..)
I'd like to tinker with my phone, but it seems so much more complicated to fix the phone if I make an oops than doing so with an iPhone does.
Thanks in advance.
Assuming you have the DNA, as that is the section you are in, there is quite a few helpful threads already. Check the sticky posts, they usually link to helpful threads.
With the speed of the quad core phones, debloating isn't needed as much as before, but rooting does have it's ups and downs.
I found that AOSP (pure android) based roms compared to sense (HTC software) are a little mote buggy and not as fluid. They feel snappier, but really aren't.
Try some sense based roms before going full aosp on this device. Take it from me. My old devices, I would run only AOSP, but after usi.g sense 5 on this phone, it has so.e good HTC only features.
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I'll echo Uzephi, give sense a try first. If you really want to tinker make sure to make a nandroid in recovery. You will probably need to use either moonshine or rum runner to do what's called s-off your phone first. That will also root it. I've found the easiest way to do that is to boot to a live USB Linux, then you don't have to deal with driver issues. If you have windows 8 or 8.1 64 bit there have been fastboot issues with drivers seeing the phone for some users, myself included. Give us some more info on what your PC set up and phone OS versions are and we can help some more when and if you want. Have you gotten the latest OTAs.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android 4.2 is the base operating system and HTC customized it to their liking, which they call Sense, and you have version 5 of Sense.
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...I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android phone manufacturers like to give their phones a specific look and feel, which is why android phones can look so different. This modification/augmentation of the base android software environment is commonly referred to as a UI (user interface), or Skin.
The term 'skin' is a terrible over-simplification, but it gets the point across. The vanilla Android software environment is, for many, quite boring, and not as powerful as it can be. Companies like HTC and Samsung incorporate cool animations, graphics, and sounds effects, as well as software that takes advantage of their camera's capabilities.
HTC's UI is called Sense
Samsung's is called TouchWiz Motorola's used to be called Blur (don't know if it still is)
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If you're brand new to Android, I would just use the phone as it is now without rooting or putting a custom ROM on it. Once you're comfortable and familiar with Android then you can decided if you want to root and rom.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Rooting is akin to jailbreak, gaining control of your phone. You can root your phone (get root directory access) and still remain completely stock for your Rom.
I personally have had the best experience with sense based roms. Your experience may differ depending on what you use.
If you want to use mobile hotspot on your phone without paying subscription then rooting is a must.
Linux used to be a must to root. Now there are windows based options, I used moonshine.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Yes, correct, capped data is forbidden by law to charge for mobile hotspot, unlimited data is chargeable.
Edit* At OP, Sense is the king flavor of android, stick unrooted for a while as you won't really see a need for it yet, unless you want to go and throw on different ROM's and try them out, which in that case def. go and try viperDNA (best sense ROM avail.) AOSP/CM based ROM's are still a WIP and are ok to use but you will miss out on everything sense (sense apps, widgets, features, and even some hardware features)
Gaining root is becoming the sys admin of the phone, you would be able to read/write to the system partition of the phone and execute system privileged commands that are more for the hacker/modder/enthusiast (not normal user, you really wouldn't find a use for that type of stuff, the only app that would serve you good is "Titanium Backup" that does require root but it basically backs up all of the apps and their data)