Is it possible to dual boot windows phone 7 onto the Verizon droid x2?
I know you can dual boot it on the HTC HD2.
Also, I'm new here and don't know much but if you can't dual boot it is there a ROM that would get me something really close to WP7 on my droid x2? or is that like the same thing as dual booting?
I know all about the apps that make your phone look like WP7(launcher 7, etc..) so no need to talk about those.
Any help would be appreciated,
From the N00B
johndeer said:
Is it possible to dual boot windows phone 7 onto the Verizon droid x2?
I know you can dual boot it on the HTC HD2.
Also, I'm new here and don't know much but if you can't dual boot it is there a ROM that would get me something really close to WP7 on my droid x2? or is that like the same thing as dual booting?
I know all about the apps that make your phone look like WP7(launcher 7, etc..) so no need to talk about those.
Any help would be appreciated,
From the N00B
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There is a ROM that ia WP7 themed but mostly through the apps that you have mentioned above...and as far as I am aware the dual booting is not an option...although I am sure I will be corrected of I am off base
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If tou head over to the development forum though there are some awesome ROMs that we have available...lot of food devs...Eclipse 2.1 with the Core Droid theme happens it be my favorite. Eclipse in mt opinion is the most stable that we have available...many other tweaks and mods there too for you to check out
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johndeer said:
Is it possible to dual boot windows phone 7 onto the Verizon droid x2?
I know you can dual boot it on the HTC HD2.
Also, I'm new here and don't know much but if you can't dual boot it is there a ROM that would get me something really close to WP7 on my droid x2? or is that like the same thing as dual booting?
I know all about the apps that make your phone look like WP7(launcher 7, etc..) so no need to talk about those.
Any help would be appreciated,
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Go to this thread. Peperm1nt has a ROM for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17868583
This ISN'T my Transformer Prime
I would assume the locked BL would keep us from doing anything like this. The Android's kernel would need to be replaced with whatever WP7 uses. Plus would the X2's hardware even be compatible with WP7? I don't know very much at all when it comes to WP7.
Unfortunately, we cannot dual boot at all....
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No chance
Moto's locked bootloader would prevent us from loading another linux kernel, much less a WP7 kernel, in addition to the fact that we'd need a WP7 kernel compiled for the Tegra2, and WP7 drivers for all the hardare on the X2. Since WP7 is closed source, the only possible way you can expect that is if Motorola unlocks the bootloader (looking more and more unlikely every day) and Microsoft compiles a version of WP7 for the X2 (Not a chance)
The only reason the HD2 was able to run WP7 is because it was made for WP7. But Microsoft turned it down. Thats what I get from wikipedia anyway. lol. I've never heard of any other phone other than the HD2 being able to run WP7. On top of that, like others have said, our phones cant dual boot anything due to the locked bootloader. But even then, I dont even know if it would be possible then either.
Thanks for all the responses everyone.
But I think I decided I just want to switch to a windows phone. I would Like the nokia lumia 800 or 900 but I am on Verizon and I don't want to spend $600 on a phone. Does anyone know a way or place where I can just like trade my phone in for one and only pay like $100 or something? But i feel like that doesn't happen except on shady parts of the internet lol
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The only reason the HD2 was able to run WP7 is because it was made for WP7. But Microsoft turned it down. Thats what I get from wikipedia anyway. lol. I've never heard of any other phone other than the HD2 being able to run WP7. On top of that, like others have said, our phones cant dual boot anything due to the locked bootloader. But even then, I dont even know if it would be possible then either.
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It would undoubtedly require some strong changes in the Linux source included with our phones, but it can definitely be done. Unfortunately kernels are not my strong suit when it comes to Linux, so I myself would have very limited knowledge for actually doing it. I'll have to read up on it.
Keep in mind though, all operating systems are designed specifically designed so that they will run on limited amounts of hardware, allowing the manufacturers licensed for making the hardware will bring larger profits for both groups. WP7 cannot natively be run on our phones. However, I think that pepperm1nt is still working on a full rework of his rom from the ground up, so that's something to look forward too if he is.
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Wow, just wait for genius chef if they can make this device capable of running android. Not sure how can we invite them to start working on this.
Can we all make a combined request to great chefs of Android as they made it possible for HD2 so nothing is impossible for them.
I have to ask: why would we possibly want Android when we have WP7? Surely we would all have bought Nexus S' if we wanted Android :S
Wrong answer.
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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Since this phone uses android like hardware that could maybe not be the thing on the mozart, but even so.
I totally agree that it is a waste of time
I want to see Android!! I was not able to purchase the HTC Desire HD... this was the best i could get. So why not have the option to play around....
.....*Sigh*
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
I want a phone that can duel boot WP7 and Androd.
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even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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Then why the hell did you buy a WP7 phone?! And just so that you know, "M$" went out of fashion like 10 years ago, and just makes you seem like a bit of a stuck up idiot.
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... just want android.
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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Well, I have no doubt on your opinion, in fact most of the people would have same opinion, Don't you think its a very simple thing that one can't miss, if we want android then go and buy android,
but according to me there are two ways to live life, one simplest way and second to go beyond limit and do something different.
if we buy android then there is near to impossible to enjoy windows 7 but if we have wp7 then there is possibility to enjoy android and that's in bl** single device wow. no need to have two sim two phone to enjoy life.
After all that's my desire that One day Chef will come and listen to us.
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even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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you are wrong..... Microsoft will know which phone been modified from HD2 by using hardware id..... muahahaha.... you are using illegal OS....
Afaik Mozart is the only handset with a 1ghz+ CPU and a Xenon flash that is "potentially" capable of running android, that fact alone makes it worth modding on imo. Would be fun to see if someone got it working, but right now I'm hoping the motoroi 2 will come out soon =)
Edit: And about legality - many countries (like norway) have laws that forbid EULAs that restrict using other software on your hardware, effectively nullifying that concern
im looking for experiment like this, run android on mozart or any wp7 phone.
Would be great, but i think there isn't a big community for Mozart 7, and special for Android on Mozart
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
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even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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your live id is stored in the phones registry
If you are running androind there is no access to that
How could microsoft ban you, magic?
Running androind i would have thought it's pretty clear you wont have access to live functions
but aside from that.
Running custom roms are 'fun' and it's why these forums exist
I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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I'm quite experienced with Windows 6.5 devices - about 8 years with Windows devices, built my own ROM's etc for too many devices to count now
I've purchased an Atrix 4G for it's hardware specs but dislike the Droid O/S intensely (I won't detail why, just that this O/S does almost nothing I want to and almost everything that I don't want to). Before anyone pours shallow scorn on this, please realise that I knew beforehand that this was so. I had my eyes wide open here
So can we, through some processes, eventually finish with a Windows 6.5 O/S (NOT 7, the ARM CPU won't work) on the Atrix ? I can find a "dual boot" thread (good!) but no thread on the possibility (?) of using Windows 6.5
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With Android, it never goes backwards...the only time I've seen phones change an operating system is when it's been WM to Android or iOS to Android. I don't think anyone has ever got an Android to run anything other than modifications of Android and I don't think it will ever happen. And woah you would need a massive team to rewrite WM for any Android and have anything really work...
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Thanks for your reply - for my money, it's the Droid that goes backwards, but anyway ...
If this is not to be, then I'll persist with the task of trying to engineer the Droid to do what I want it to
My long experience with Windows devices showed me that the hardware is not produced for a specific O/S, but rather the O/S is written to fit the hardware. So if we can replace the Droid bootloader, flashing a different ROM is possible
Just an FYI, when you say Droid instead of Android, it makes it seem like you're trying to troll.
Good luck on this though, I remember using WinMo 5 on my HTC 8125 nearly four years ago now and can definitely connect with WinMo appreciation to a certain point. I missed out on the WM6 and 6.5 parties, but I've only ever heard good things about (in regards to WM5).
my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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my advice is to get a HD2 and youll have a large amount of OS's to install.
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+1 (10 character).
I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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I had the htc touch hd..
Worst choise ever.
Miles away from windows mobile..
Personal opinion!
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lol that phone looked so good, and was so expensive!!
Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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What sort of things are you looking for in an OS that Android doesn't offer?
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I'm curious on this as well. I also date back to some of the first WinMo devices. 3125, 2125 (yeah, I owned that), 8125, etc. Not sure I'd want to go back to 6.5, but to each their own.
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Yes, "Droid" refers to a specific line of phones. "Android" refers to the operating system.
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+1 huge pet peeve
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Thanks - already have an HD2, over 15 months now. An excellent PDA but the Atrix hardware specs are a quantum leap
No one is developing software for WinMo 6.5 anymore, of course
OK, I appreciate that the nickname Droid unsettles people, so I won't use it anymore in posts here
From the answers here (much appreciated that people posted back), the short answer is that I'll have to re-engineer what I can. Not unexpected
...and if I could get HTC SENSE that ran on my HD2 on my ATRIX... as a widget. That would be fab. I still think that was a fabulous all in one application ...
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Is there such a thing? I saw a article that best buy was running a Droid Eris with Windows 7. Where can I get this and how stable is it? This thread is intended for Eris only. Looking for a Windows 7 ROM/OS for the HTC Droid Eris. I am using Amon_RA recovery now and my phones (2) are both on Cricket Carrier plans.
I think you've been misled. There are so many reasons that no matter what you try you'll never get Windows 7, assuming you mean the desktop Windows 7, running on the Eris. I doubt if you could get Windows Phone 7 running on the Eris, either. AFAIK, there's never been any version of Windows 7 compiled for ARM processors, only for x86 and x86-64. Even if it were, the hardware constraints of the Eris would be completely ludicrous to expect it to run a huge Windows 7 installation, even if the ROM actually ran from the SD card, which would be the only way it would fit since the internal flash memory of the Eris is too small.
I did a quick Google search and I couldn't easily find the article you mention. Do you have a link?
There is a launcher that looks like windows though. That's about as close as your going to get. There's a launcher that looks like desktop and another that looks like mobile.
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Wp7 was coded to only work with snapdragon processors. Running at 1ghz. If I remember correctly the Eris is somewhere in the ballpark of 518mhz.
If someone would've put the time and effort into rebuilding wp7 it could be possible. But why?
The Eris is the toughest and hardest to kill android phone I've ever played with
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Can someone post a link to the launcher that looks like WP7?
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Can someone post a link to the launcher that looks like WP7?
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i cant make any promises... but probably within the next few days im gonna make some cm7 ports and see what i can do with them.. currently my eris is on simple mobile so i cant test mms or anything until i find a way to flash it back..
this was my first android... and i just got my hands back on it... my fascinate is a PITA with reading my sdcards.. so i think i may show the eris community some love..
expect lg ui moto touchwiz xperia wp7/8 and maybe more.. but those will be my priorities.. if i can learn how aroma works i may make a all in one flashable... just gotta give me time to relearn the device and see whats been done in the few years since i last used it
Is WP8 rootable? How customizable is it when it comes to custom ROMs?
I guess it would be as costumizable as WP7 was. You can have a look at what was included in those CustomROMs. Wether it can be done is another question given that the hurdles on "rooting" a WP8 are rather high (especially since it uses SecureBoot.
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Is WP8 rootable? How customizable is it when it comes to custom ROMs?
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I think it depends on the phone. The fact that some Dev team was able to get WP8 partially running on an HTC HD2, points to perhaps it could be rootable, and it depends on who and for how long people try to hack the OS. But it looks to me that even if they hack the OS, it will really depend on what phone you have.
The Lumia 900 (WP7) was deemed in-hackable. So if you have a 920 or other Nokia phone for WP8, Ill be shocked (pleasantly) if we ever see Custom ROMs on them. If the 900 was unable to be hacked, it would be a big surprise if Nokia didnt put the same type of security in their newer phones as well, like the 920/820.
So dont get your hopes up, and if you have HTC, you may have a better shot of seeing a Custom ROM in the future.
Just to add. If you look at the Hacking forum of Windows Phone 8, there isnt much activity. Im sure people are working in the background on cracking the phone, but there clearly is a lack of progress so far. If they were making headway, Id think we see more activity in that forum.
One of the main problems with "rooting" or "jailbreaking" is to get a modified version of the OS to boot, e.g. getting a bootloader on the device that allows for that. That by the way is exactlly one of the things that SecureBoot used by WP8 is designed to circumvent.
Loading a modified OS onto a device it was not designed for is easier in that regard as for that device there already is a possibility to get it loaded onto that. The difficulties there are developing a Bootloader that supports the OS from scratch and developing drivers that support the hardware.
So in the end those are two very difficult tasks but in many ways they are not connected and the possibility of doing one of them doesn't tell you much about the possibility of the other one.
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that