im running bionix 1.1 fusion, and before i flashed that i made a nandroid. Now i want to go back to stock. But everytime i restore the image using clockworkmod recovery, i get a problem. The restore will complete, then ill reboot phone. but phone will sit stuck at vibrant screen for a long time. i waited more than 40 minutes...So i reflashed bionix fusion and am waiting for an answer on how to revert to stock. I think the problem might be that fusion 1.1 is based on the JI2 modem, and my backup is the JI6 modem. Someone help, i just want to restore my phone to stock.
roguly said:
im running bionix 1.1 fusion, and before i flashed that i made a nandroid. Now i want to go back to stock. But everytime i restore the image using clockworkmod recovery, i get a problem. The restore will complete, then ill reboot phone. but phone will sit stuck at vibrant screen for a long time. i waited more than 40 minutes...So i reflashed bionix fusion and am waiting for an answer on how to revert to stock. I think the problem might be that fusion 1.1 is based on the JI2 modem, and my backup is the JI6 modem. Someone help, i just want to restore my phone to stock.
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You could flash the JI6 modem from TeamWhiskey's website, then revert to your nandroid.
I had the same exact problem Bionix final R1. Try the above or Odin back to stock JI6, root it then restore. I had to do this, well.. not sure if I had to but it worked for me.
I had bionix fusion 1.1, and i tried to restore using my nandroid backup image. But it didnt work, the phone would get stuck at the vibrant boot up screen. So i decided to just flash bionix's new obsidian rom over the fusion. It worked, but now im wondering what i should do if i ever want to go back to stock. Should i use odin? And if i odin to stock i will get OTA's right? just trying to get answers straight.
This is my second time trying to restore a backup using clockwork and it just hangs on the vibrant screen. The first time I forgot to disable voodoo so that was the problem then, but this time I was on obsidian froyo rom and had issues where I was not able to get any data reception (3g/edge) so I figured to try and got back to stock to see if that solved the issue but no I'm stuck on vibrant screen. It went through the process of restoring then rebooting but it got suck. I am very frustrated because I can't never get it to work so what is the point of backing up stuff. I will be using odin again to restore and not use backups anymore. Just wanted to vent as I am very frustrated about this. If there is some out there that could shed some light as to why I keep getting stuck on the vibrant screen I would appreciate it.
Will be getting a replacement phone from my date issue, and yes my voice still works just not data part.
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Froyo has a differnt kernel than eclair. You were trying to restore an eclair build, but you did not flash the stock eclair kernel first.
s15274n said:
Froyo has a differnt kernel than eclair. You were trying to restore an eclair build, but you did not flash the stock eclair kernel first.
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what eclair kernel can i use for the future???
i odin back to JFD and my 3g/edge is working again i wonder why i lost it?
Probably the easiest thing to do would have been to flash a new custom rom with the kernel included, like Fusion/Bionix.
You could have flashed the stock kernel and then restored a JI6 nandroid too though I imagine. I've not tried yet. The stock kernel can be found in my signature or in the development section. I have a copy on my internal memory just in case.
I am currently running bionix fusion which i know is an eclair rom however i want to flash obsidian, my question was can i flash a froyo rom just as i would any other rom or do i have to install a kernel for 2.2 and when going back to a 2.1 rom do i have to do anything? Sorry if my question is confusing...
Flash it like anything else (depending on the rom), instructions should be in the first post, most flash just like any other rom.
In going from 2.1 to 2.2, you can use CWR to flash the new ROM. The ROMs come with the kernels. But you will want to be sure to follow the install instructions of the ROM you've selected.
Now, if you should decide to go from 2.2 back to 2.1, you will need to flash a 2.1 ROM first. If all if you is a Nandroid recovery without flashing a 2.1 ROM first, you'll have to introduce yourself to ODIN.
so i should be good if say i go from obsidian to bionix as long as i dont do a nandroid backup first thanks for the quick reply by the way
reyese24 said:
so i should be good if say i go from obsidian to bionix as long as i dont do a nandroid backup first thanks for the quick reply by the way
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The key word there is *should*.
From what I can tell, if you do a nandroid backup & restore, you want that to be to the same version of the OS. So, you probably don't want to do a backup from a 2.2 ROM and then recover to a 2.1 ROM, or visa-versa. No harm in doing the backup, however. The thing to avoid is the recovery into the wrong ROM.
As long as you flash a ROM that includes the kernel, you *should* be fine. That said, it is possible that something could go wrong, in which case having ODIN around can save you. (It took me several hours to figure out how to get the right drivers to connect my PC to my phone using ODIN. But once I figured that out, flashing JFD on the phone takes only a few minutes. But I don't flash "in the field", only at home - so if something goes wrong, I'm in a position to repair it).
EDIT: I'm not sure why you'd want to go from a 2.2 ROM back to 2.1 if you've already ventured into the custom ROM world. If you're not happy with the Obsidian performance, you might try Onyx or another ROM, like Axura.
ScratchSF said:
The key word there is *should*.
From what I can tell, if you do a nandroid backup & restore, you want that to be to the same version of the OS. So, you probably don't want to do a backup from a 2.2 ROM and then recover to a 2.1 ROM, or visa-versa. No harm in doing the backup, however. The thing to avoid is the recovery into the wrong ROM.
As long as you flash a ROM that includes the kernel, you *should* be fine. That said, it is possible that something could go wrong, in which case having ODIN around can save you. (It took me several hours to figure out how to get the right drivers to connect my PC to my phone using ODIN. But once I figured that out, flashing JFD on the phone takes only a few minutes. But I don't flash "in the field", only at home - so if something goes wrong, I'm in a position to repair it).
EDIT: I'm not sure why you'd want to go from a 2.2 ROM back to 2.1 if you've already ventured into the custom ROM world. If you're not happy with the Obsidian performance, you might try Onyx or another ROM, like Axura.
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Just to summarize, followed by a question of my own.
Correct me if any of this is wrong. These are the points I gathered from reading this thread.
-Ok Nandroid backup is a program which can be used to backup and at a later time restore your stock firmware, i.e. stock 2.1.
-Backing up your current 2.1 ROM is safe, restoring might get you in trouble if you don't have the correct 2.1 kernal to match.
-Any of the popular 2.2 ROMS (Axura, Macnut, Obsidian) all come with the 2.2 kernal coupled.
-Downgrading from a 2.2 ROM, and restoring your Nandroid Backup of 2.1 can get you into trouble, unless you install a 2.1 ROM first which would restore a 2.1 Kernal at the same time.
Now my question is this. How do you backup not only your 2.1 stock ROM, but your stock kernal also? If you decide you don't like custom 2.2 ROMS and want to go back down to your stock 2.1 rom and kernal, how can you avoid having to install another custom 2.1 ROM with kernal, just to be able to put your restore 2.1 back. Confusing question I know, but basically, how can you just go from a custom 2.2 rom/kernal back to your own stock restore of 2.1(ROM and Kernal), will Nandroid backup the kernal also?
SamsungVibrant said:
-Ok Nandroid backup is a program which can be used to backup and at a later time restore your stock firmware, i.e. stock 2.1.
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Nandroid is the backup/restore component of the ClockworkMod's ROM Manager app. You can use it on any version of the ROM, not only the stock 2.1 version.
SamsungVibrant said:
-Backing up your current 2.1 ROM is safe, restoring might get you in trouble if you don't have the correct 2.1 kernal to match.
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Backups are safe. And restoring can get you into trouble if you don't restore to the same version of the OS (more specifically, the kernal, as you've indicated) that you made your backup from.
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-Any of the popular 2.2 ROMS (Axura, Macnut, Obsidian) all come with the 2.2 kernal coupled.
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For this, you have to read the notes for each build. Yes, as a general rule, the latest works are on 2.2 (which means they come with a 2.2 kernal of some kind).
SamsungVibrant said:
-Downgrading from a 2.2 ROM, and restoring your Nandroid Backup of 2.1 can get you into trouble, unless you install a 2.1 ROM first which would restore a 2.1 Kernal at the same time.
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Yes. My trick is that if I flash ROMs, I don't do worry about nandroid. If I'm trying to customize my current ROM, then that's where I do a nandroid. But you have to do what works best for you.
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Now my question is this. How do you backup not only your 2.1 stock ROM, but your stock kernal also? If you decide you don't like custom 2.2 ROMS and want to go back down to your stock 2.1 rom and kernal, how can you avoid having to install another custom 2.1 ROM with kernal, just to be able to put your restore 2.1 back. Confusing question I know, but basically, how can you just go from a custom 2.2 rom/kernal back to your own stock restore of 2.1(ROM and Kernal), will Nandroid backup the kernal also?
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Good question. I've never backed up the kernal. I only flash ones that others have provided. I'll leave that question for people smarter that me to answer. ;-)
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Good question. I've never backed up the kernal. I only flash ones that others have provided. I'll leave that question for people smarter that me to answer. ;-)
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thanks for the info, anyone know the answer to that last question?
you flash the kernel first and then you restore nandroid for the system that ran on that kernel.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you brick your phone
EDIT: don't forget the radio/modem as well, it is not being backed up by NANDROID.
reyese24 said:
I am currently running bionix fusion which i know is an eclair rom however i want to flash obsidian, my question was can i flash a froyo rom just as i would any other rom or do i have to install a kernel for 2.2 and when going back to a 2.1 rom do i have to do anything? Sorry if my question is confusing...
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Not sure if it was said AND I'm not 100% sure on this but I believe bionix (and a few others) include the kernals in there roms.
and im pretty sure you can just flash over the original fusion you were using and it will also install there kernals.
or you can scope out the bible in the development section to find a kernal.
umm ok so how do you backup your stock kernal, radio and modem?
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you flash the kernel first and then you restore nandroid for the system that ran on that kernel.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you brick your phone
EDIT: don't forget the radio/modem as well, it is not being backed up by NANDROID.
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So if Nandroid can be used to backup your stock ROM. Then how do you backup your stock kernal, radio, and modem?
Hello guys. I currently have Eugene Gingerbread Clone R2 Rom with JL4 Voodoo Lag Fix on my Vibrant.
I want to try other roms for fun. I have some apps and my contacts and stuff backed up and also the entire rom itself. i also have the Stock (Rooted) Backed up as well. My question is how do i go about going back to the "Stock Rooted" safely without using the odin program.
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Hello guys. I currently have Eugene Gingerbread Clone R2 Rom with JL4 Voodoo Lag Fix on my Vibrant.
I want to try other roms for fun. I have some apps and my contacts and stuff backed up and also the entire rom itself. i also have the Stock (Rooted) Backed up as well. My question is how do i go about going back to the "Stock Rooted" safely without using the odin program.
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Well, assuming you have ALL of your apps and data and contacts and such backed up with Titanium Pro (make sure, you don't want to lose this stuff!), just reboot into clockwork recovery.
NEXT DISABLE VOODOO OR DIE.
I'm also assuming you made a backup of your "stock rooted rom" with Clockwork Mod Recovery? Now, just reboot into that green clockwork recovery and go to nandroid or backup and restore and click RESTORE.
Yes i have my stock rooted backed up and also my gingerbread rom backed up as well and also some of the important apps and my contacts backed up.
I will give it a try now.
I don't think it worked lol. Screen shows "Searching"
Sweep screen to unlock but screen is black and i cannot do anything.
cannot seem to get back to recovery either
Bob forgot a very important step, flashing a 2.1 kernal...
Best way out is to just flash another Froyo rom through clockwork since you don't want to mess with Odin.
I recommend Axura 2.2.5.7 as well as Nero V3. Go get those and see what you think.
*Edit* just saw your post 1min before mine. You may be using Odin after all.
Ok Thx. Makes sense lol
Nah i only use Rom Manager.
Ok i'm back to my Gingerclone.. I'm going to find Eclair 2.1 kernel, i assume thats the one i need to get and yes i will make sure to disable voodoo before i flash the 2.1 kernel .
Thx.
Born2rade said:
Ok i'm back to my Gingerclone.. I'm going to find Eclair 2.1 kernel, i assume thats the one i need to get and yes i will make sure to disable voodoo before i flash the 2.1 kernel .
Thx.
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If you just want to flash other roms, you don't have to return to 2.1 IMO.
Just backup everything (Titanium/Nand/Launcher Pro if used), then clear data and cache in clockwork. After that go to install zip from SD and select the new Rom which should be sitting on your internal 16g memory and let it do it's thing.
Ok well i tried other roms. I tried Nero V3, That one was bad, internet was uber slow and Gps doesn't work.
I tried Axura 2.2.5.7, Worked very well except Gps also does not work.
Right now i'm going to stick with my Gingerbread R2 as for everything works extremely well.