Since SDE was released, who wants to build some fresh and shiny android which might be running someday side by side with AVOS (Archos Android)?
What do we need (openembedded?)?
Installation of Other OS:
root: /mnt/storage/rootfs.img
kernel:
Reboot into Recovery Mode (howto)
Recovery System -> Developer Edition Menu -> Flash Kernel and Initramfs
Connect USB and copy "zImage" and "initramfs.cpio.gz" to the Archos
Unmount Archos on PC (safe remove)
Press ok on Archos
Don't you think dev's are already working on this right now?
OpenAS is a site to look at, there are a few in fact and some even on XDA.
your instructions are sort of nothing anyone who has booted the angstrom distribution can see that?
this thread is a bit pointless. your asking for devs to create something they are already working on and you can't help as you don't know how?
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support
and now I'm looking for some help and informations.
this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.
I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.
summarizing informations, that's the point.
ok fair enough
it's more likely though someone will do a port and use it over the current android system as apposed to using the SDE. Most dev's will be concentrating on other O/S's such as Ubuntu etc.
I can see why you want to do it but im not sure it will be done this way. We havent even managed to get perm root yet, sadly the archos wont get a lot of love I fear.
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it we can decide everything
edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
chulri said:
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support
and now I'm looking for some help and informations.
this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.
I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.
summarizing informations, that's the point.
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but I say go with your dreams and keep up the good work (whatever work that may be).
Don't let anyone tell you you can't do it (whatever "it" may be). Any contribution to making my A70 better is a + in my book.
chulri said:
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it we can decide everything
edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
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But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.
It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
why would someone want to run ubuntu on this hardware? winxp is out of scope as it doesn't support arm processors.
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by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
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why shouldn't we have root in SDE?? The SDE is the only way (so far, gen8 hasn't been hacked yet) to get perm root and custom roms.
why won't you just use SDE to run custom android roms? why it has to be ubuntu or any other bloated linux distribution?
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But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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Agreed, who cares if you have more then one build of Android on a device? On other devices people have developed their own method of doing this exact thing. SDE is a great idea to let people load custom ROMs onto their device without fear of bricking. Now if someone would just get one developed....
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no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
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Archos have released the source code, the only thing that's missing is Root.
The distro is already pretty close to stock even the BT stack is android native allowing us to use wiimote etc.
Archos have done a pretty "pure" android release Cynogen's goal is get a pure android rom working. Stock it's not that far away now?
and what about ISO, windows 7 (mobile), tiny linux, yellow dog, many other great distro's. All im saying is wait until root is achieved (it's being worked on) nd see what happens to the default android then.
Your may be jumping the gun a bit developing something that's not needed
waz000000 said:
But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3
it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.
It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?
by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
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was agreeing with you until this post.
the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.
and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
@wazalotofzeros
oh come on, are you kidding me? why is it so hard to understand that a rooted android or even custom roms are wanted by a lot of archos users (see archosfans.com)
whats the point of installing any linux distribution instead of android?
why are you telling me its pointless to do custom roms for the Archos Gen8 while there are custom roms for a lot of other android devices?
I give up, please contribute something useful to this topic or stop posting offtopic.
@waz000000,
don't want to participate in this then don't. There is no reason to put down others work though just because you think it is pointless.
Grand Idea
Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!
Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
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new firmware came out today! works great on my A101, no crashes or freezes so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875393
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So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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Me neither but I'm willing to do if nobody else does, simply because of my DVB-T project in the other thread
€dit I'll give cyanogenmod a try
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was agreeing with you until this post.
the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.
and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
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ok fair enough so what would you rather?
a cynogen mod with archos firmware or linux distro (Whatever) and cynogenmod?
im not saying dont work on a custom rom, im saying work on a "proper" custom rom and use the dual boot option for something other than android.
1st step develop root
2nd step develop custom rom
3rd step install another distro
What im trying to say is, develop a "proper" custom rom and leave the dual boot option for something mind blowing!
as to blazingwolf im not trying to put anyone's work down (apart from the fact there isn't any yet this is pure concept)
I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
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I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
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who does what and when it gets released?
in the mean time have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610303
i know its different hardware but use a cynogen beta like the I9000 as a base, and work from there, even try the original firmware and look to cook that one.
you will be surprised how almost stock the archos one is
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Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!
Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.
So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
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the purpose of SDE is to give users a way to dual boot and be able to load "another" operating system. The Angstrom image we provide is just a demo and nothing else. You are free to put anything else, like Android 4.0, Meego, Maemo or whatever else you want...
First, i want to thank cyanogenmod people for their awesome works, then dsixda for his/her Android kitchen, then XDA people who inspired me to learn about cooking ROM, you guys are awesome
Well, as the title says, i want to port CM6 Hero ROM into Sony Ericsson Xperia X8, i'm using libs from some ROM that are meant for my X8, also using ramdisk that already built in X8's Custom ROM.
Here i attach the adb logcat message when my phone boot, from what i see, there is no problem regarding the booting process of the phone in the log, but hey, i'm newbie, maybe you guys know what is the problem.
Please help me, i want to learn more about Android, well my first attempt is to port this ROM
Thanks before, Regards
aldee_s
Progress = I managed to boot the phone, i found that framework is the problem, some pre-installed application doesnt work, like terminal emulator, then the android keyboard.
How do i disable physical keyboard options in setting?
Recently more and more Android developer start to developping and propose to upgrade their OS from old Froyo (Android 2.2/2.3 ) to Android 4.0 (ICS)system,even though low level 600MHz CPU/256Mb RAM Android phone
(ex. Huawei U8150 ) :
Refer to beneath thread of their activities:
1. Port ICS transition animations on EVERY ROM & EVERY PHONE Thread
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342117 )
2. [Huawei U8150] Ice Cream Sandwich AOSP Alpha 3 WIFI+SD WORKS
: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366404
I hope someone of our Archos developer also can consider to develop Android 4.0 (ICS)system for Gen 8 ASAP
well the answer is easy:
and if u would have spend some time in this forum - reading - u would have it already...
Atm we got 3 main developers for our archos devices: sauron/bubu/divx
Since sauron will stick to his UD for a while as it seems hes out of the race atm
The other 2 are wokring on CM7 (-> Ginger) atm.
Even they are doing a great job we still dont have a fully bug free and installable CM7 yet...
CM9 (-> ICS) is in a very early development stage (as u already can see in any other android forum here - mostly alpha builds with barely functionality) so it's kinda meanless to switch over to it atm - since we dont have enough developers for it.
Once CM7 is fully working I think bubu/divx will head on to CM9 ofc (if they still own an archos then )
Even I know u just had good intensions - I think those [Request] threads are meanless most time - as they won't "help" anyone sadly.
Imho: if u want to contribute and take the development a step further or want to help them - join the Cyanogen Bull RC development discussions and help out with bug-reports or anything else u can do...
greez
Hello FrEcP:
Thanks for your update informations.
Sorry!I do not know how to develope Linux or Android OS and just a Android system user
However I always keep watch the new OS improvement and contribute my testing result to developer all the time and wish Archos Gen8 could be better
performace than before!!
ICS Port to our gn8 started!
letama, made an alpha version of an ICS Port for our devices
Look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404492
Currently the only thing that seems to run is the touchscreen (Actually the launcher is pretty smooth)! And it's booting of course
nice to see progresses in ics development for ics!!
This is a call out to all existing and future developers of Xperia MDPI Devices.
For about a month now there is an app called Update Me Smartphone, which basically gives OTA update functionality for our Custom Roms.
From 01/05/2012 the developer of this app has given it a very interesting feature. You can view all Roms compatible with the Update Me Smartphone application. Even though you get a list a bunch of irrelevant devices, I suppose if we all "help" him with our suggestions he can make an application that will be on par with the Rom Manager app for devices that are fully supported by CWM.
To make this as simple as possible....
User "A" wants to download a new Rom for his Xperia MDPI Device. He has already downloaded and flashed a custom kernel (whether this is a Stock Kernel, or a CM kernel), then proceeds to download the app, install it and browse any compatible Rom's with his device... From then on his device will stay updated, through the Update Me application providing OTA updates of the Rom he has installed. If he wished to download another rom (compatible with the kernel he has - there are 3 Different Kernels AFAIK: GB CM, ICS CM, GB-ICS Stock Sony Kernel) he will just proceed to download the latest version of the rom he has selected straight to his device. No need to download to your computer, then connect the device, then copy it, then flash it. If you have the compatible kernel already installed, then its easy as pie.
Please let me know of your thoughts on this...
Edit: Link to the application's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590170
Edit 2: Apart from Rom's we can also implement various mods, tweaks, fixes, etc for our devices. Even though that would be extremely hard, due to the fact that all these files need to be stored in a direct download location like Dropbox, its is a viable option.
OMG I love the idea, that would be awesome!!
It's very interesting, thanks a lot for the info I will try it!
Some modification: In GB we have 3 different kernel (Stock Based, CM Based, MIUI Based [not released yet]). In ICS we don't have Stock based to Xperia MDPI, because Sony don't released yet the stock for us. So we have CM9 based, AOSP based (it's work with CM9 ROMs btw), and ported Stock based.
Some another notice: I saw a lot of thread (not only in this forum), but sooo many people trying to make ROMs. It's not a problem, but some guy don't know some full minimum things... So who will help this guys to add this app to their ROMs?
Are you using a different Kernel for the Sony ICS rom port? I mean the Ramdisk is the same size and you're using the same zImage from a stock GB rom correct?
Well nobody is forced to do this. All we have to do is provide the app developer a link with the update_me_check.xml so that he will sort of add a link for that in the application.
By the way, i now got my goo.im account, and this have own OTA app. I will try it, and I will report.
But I know, this is not only OTA app... Hmm... I need to think in it
So the only developer checking the thread is Expeacer?
Ok...
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So the only developer checking the thread is Expeacer?
Ok...
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What makes you think like this?
Well, it's been a couple of days since I posted this, either people dont have an opinion of their own, or they don't care...
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Well, it's been a couple of days since I posted this, either people dont have an opinion of their own, or they don't care...
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I also read quite a lot of topics, but I don't respond in every topic.
So i got my Go and its pretty good overall, but im so dissatisfied that it hasnt gotten the ics update yet, even though sony has been telling us that we would have it already. so i decided to take this in my own hands and try and build my own ics, or even jb rom i have found some great Resources like linaros Linux 3.4 kernel for Android novathor and the cyanogen work in progress for the device, but since im not exactly experienced i have some questions,
what rescources from the Linux kernel are needed to run Android, and how can i make sure that a build ive made wont crash my device, can i try it in some kind of emulator, or is it too Hard to set an emu up wih the right settings for my phone?
and once again, can we please get a subforum for go here? it has the same processor as p, u and sola, and more than 55 People have requested it in the ***New device forum*** post, how many does it take?