Any body know of a way to fix or temporary fix the stupid ball from scrolling to the left? I dont have warranty on my eris ....
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Any body know of a way to fix or temporary fix the stupid ball from scrolling to the left? I dont have warranty on my eris ....
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Try inserting the USB cable and wiggle it around while playing with the trackball. You may find that you temporarily "fix" your trackball. Sometimes pressing the trackball a little harder and moving it all around helps it to stop thinking it's moving when you let go again.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Try inserting the USB cable and wiggle it around while playing with the trackball. You may find that you temporarily "fix" your trackball. Sometimes pressing the trackball a little harder and moving it all around helps it to stop thinking it's moving when you let go again.
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Ill give that a shot ...thanks a lot for your help
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Try inserting the USB cable and wiggle it around while playing with the trackball. You may find that you temporarily "fix" your trackball. Sometimes pressing the trackball a little harder and moving it all around helps it to stop thinking it's moving when you let go again.
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It actually works and like you said its a temporary fix, but none the less its a fix...
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I also saw a thread the other day about cleaning your trackball by turning your phone upside down and running the trackball over a clean sheet of white paper for a minute or two. It helped my problem, at least a little bit.
Lately, however, I've noticed that my phone won't notice that it's being charged unless the cord is inserted only part of the way or has pressure applied to it in a certain way. Which sucks. Damn the USB/trackball hardware on these things.
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I also saw a thread the other day about cleaning your trackball by turning your phone upside down and running the trackball over a clean sheet of white paper for a minute or two. It helped my problem, at least a little bit.
Lately, however, I've noticed that my phone won't notice that it's being charged unless the cord is inserted only part of the way or has pressure applied to it in a certain way. Which sucks. Damn the USB/trackball hardware on these things.
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I will give that a try too..I love the Eris but the trackball is a pain n the @$$.. The developers are awesome here and I don't want to lose my eris cuz of a trackball..lol..much luck with your usb issue.
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You should also be aware that there is a version of Amon_RA's custom recovery that I tweaked-up that does not require the use of a trackball. See this post / thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9124095&postcount=83 and the "sister" thread over at AF: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/214240-amon_ra-1-6-2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html
Just in case you get in a bind when need to do something in recovery.
Cheers!
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You should also be aware that there is a version of Amon_RA's custom recovery that I tweaked-up that does not require the use of a trackball. See this post / thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9124095&postcount=83 and the "sister" thread over at AF: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/214240-amon_ra-1-6-2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html
Just in case you get in a bind when need to do something in recovery.
Cheers!
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Thats awesome. Ill have to bookmark those posts just in case my trackball actually messes up. I see no use for the trackball unless im in recovery anyways. Too bad we couldnt disable the trackball all together.
There are a few threads here on XDA from long time ago that have guides on cleaning under your trackball, by actually taking it out. I remember some people saying that it helped, so that might also be an option.
Here is one of the threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716681
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There are a few threads here on XDA from long time ago that have guides on cleaning under your trackball, by actually taking it out. I remember some people saying that it helped, so that might also be an option.
Here is one of the threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716681
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Thanks..gonna try it.
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I was trying to root my Eris and i went to the 1 click eris root thread, downloaded it, followed all the directions, now when i hold vol up and power it boots to the recovery thing. From here im supposed to scroll down to flash zip from sd. I cant. Ive tried the track ball, the volume keys, everything. All it will let me do is press the trackball to select "reset device" or whatever the first option is. Any help? Like is there any way to flash that zip without using that recovery thing? Sorry if this is some simple noob mistake. just got my eris last week.
Anybody? Is there a different bootloader/recovery program i could load onto my phone to flash the "rootme.zip"?
EDIT: i think my trackball might just be broken or something, is there somethin i could edit to make it where the vol keys move the selector up and down instead of the track ball? i can still press the trackball, just cant scroll with it.
Sounds like a broken trackball to me. Mine broke a month after I first got my Eris, it would only scroll left. The phone was under warranty so I got it exchanged no problem. My younger brother had the same problem except his trackball would not scroll down.
The trackball on the Eris seems to be really sensitive and any pivoting force placed on the usb cable when it's plugged in seems to be the culprit. Just swap out your phone for a new one at a Verizon store and you'll be good to go.
Read the 2nd post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804946
and follow the links there.
This is a method for technically sophisticated users; if you are intimidated by it, then DON'T USE IT.
(The author of that method - me - will not offer spoon-feeding services.)
There is a chance that ROM Manager/Clockwork recovery will work without a trackball, but I don't use that, and in any event you need to be rooted to install that, so there is a chicken-and-egg problem in proposing it as a work-around.
bftb0
If your trackball is rooted please do not go further in the process... simply run the RUU and go back to 1.5 or 2.1 and return your phone for a new one/ Incredible.
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If your trackball is rooted please do not go further in the process... simply run the RUU and go back to 1.5 or 2.1 and return your phone for a new one/ Incredible.
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I was going to offer the OP the same advice, except for one thing: he didn't mention whether or not the trackball problem is also present with the stock O/S booted.
In addition to lots of reports from folks that clearly have broken/bad trackballs, there have also been multiple reports from people that experience scrolling problems with the trackball only when Amon_RA is booted - those folks are sort of SOL when it comes to a return, as they can't demonstrate the problem occurs with factory software.
But, yeah - if it is broken in both Amon_RA and the stock O/S, the OP should try and get a replacement phone. (Ugh! From the looks of recent reports, the OP might just end up with a "refurb" that also has a broken trackball)
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No way i can return it. im not the original owner, i bought it off of a friend for $20 lol, he thought it was broken but it just needed a new battery. the trackball scrolls left and right just not up or down, and it does this whether im in Amon_RA or not. its just the track ball is broken. I consider myself pretty "tech sophisticated" so ill try bftb0's first word of advice and see if that will work. Thanks for the help guys. if it doesnt work i guess im just SOL on getting my Eris rooted. Oh well, im due an upgrade and will probably get the droid 2 anyway but i was hoping to get the eris going.
EDIT: LOL go figure my luck here...my USB port is also gimped, like as in doesnt work at all, i charge my batteries on battery cradles that plug in the wall, and the method of flashing a zip without using the trackball requires you to connect your phone to your computer with usb cable, so im SOL. Thanks for trying guys, any other help (doubtful there is any) would be much appreciated.
So i opened up the app drawer in landscape and had an idea. is there anyway someone could mod the 1 click root thing so that the recovery operates in landscape? because since my trackball scrolls left and right i could then scroll "down" to the flash from sd card option, if it was in landscape.
use clockwork mod. be warned tho people have reported that using that their phone has bricked. but i didnt have problems with it when i was waiting on my referb with a working trackball. Call verizon and tell them your trackball is screwed up scrolling or not scrolling whatever its doing.
Does anyone have a link I can use go back to stock. I need a new phone what Tom do I flash
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Does anyone have a link I can use go back to stock. I need a new phone what Tom do I flash
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792026
It IS Lupus said:
use clockwork mod. be warned tho people have reported that using that their phone has bricked. but i didnt have problems with it when i was waiting on my referb with a working trackball. Call verizon and tell them your trackball is screwed up scrolling or not scrolling whatever its doing.
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How do i install clockwork on an eris? ive looked around but everythings for the facsinate or aria or EVO
i had similar issues with my trackball not responding in recovery earlier this week
did some searching and found that i had to connect the usb cable and try some gentle wiggling - the usb port is so close to the trackball that it sometimes affects how the ball's movement is read
doesnt need to be plugged into PC, just the part that connects to the phone
i wanted to update Kaosfroyo to v38 and i had no control when navigating recovery screen or it would scroll to the bottom of the list without me touching anything
after doing some investigation i booted into recovery with the usb connected and held the plug where it connects to phone and tried holding the cord at different angles until it responded as i needed it to and presto! now running KF38 with no trackball issues
XDA has had all of the answers to my Eris problems so far, just have to do some digging
Hey all,
Just a couple days ago, my track ball stopped working when I use it to scroll down. In recovery, you need to be able to scroll down to do anything. Is there a way to flash things and do nands without the track ball? I know there is Clockwork, but I don't trust it with the stories of bricking. If anything, all I need to do is be able to flash the flashback ROM so I can send it in and get a new phone.
Any remedies?
Thanks
Have a read here.
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Hey all,
Just a couple days ago, my track ball stopped working when I use it to scroll down. In recovery, you need to be able to scroll down to do anything. Is there a way to flash things and do nands without the track ball? I know there is Clockwork, but I don't trust it with the stories of bricking. If anything, all I need to do is be able to flash the flashback ROM so I can send it in and get a new phone.
Any remedies?
Thanks
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It happened to me. I was trying to flashback to send it back...no trackball. I found that pushing on the phone with my thumb above the trackball enabled the trackball enough to flash the zip. Keep in mind I was sending the phone back to Verizon for the broken trackball, though, so I wasn't worried about breaking it further.
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Have a read here.
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It happened to me. I was trying to flashback to send it back...no trackball. I found that pushing on the phone with my thumb above the trackball enabled the trackball enough to flash the zip. Keep in mind I was sending the phone back to Verizon for the broken trackball, though, so I wasn't worried about breaking it further.
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Thank you and thank you!
By the way, you probably should grab the recovery-RA-eris-v1.6.2-trackball-optional.img 1.7.1 version (it has all of the functionality of the "original" 1.6.2 Amon_RA; the first "trackball-not-required" version I built was based on the 1.6.2 source that actually omitted some of the menu options).
Cheers!
i have the trackball not working during recovery issue as well
I have found, and I am almost certain this will work for you, plugging your phone into your charger will get your trackball to work
If I don't have my cord to plug into the usb, I've used a paper clip to press against the top of the usb port towards the trackball and have found this to work as well
if you have any questions on the process please don't hesitate to contact me
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i have the trackball not working during recovery issue as well
I have found, and I am almost certain this will work for you, plugging your phone into your charger will get your trackball to work
If I don't have my cord to plug into the usb, I've used a paper clip to press against the top of the usb port towards the trackball and have found this to work as well
if you have any questions on the process please don't hesitate to contact me
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Actually, most people find out about the problem, or it's more severe when a cord/charger is plugged in.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Actually, most people find out about the problem, or it's more severe when a cord/charger is plugged in.
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Does the problem worsen over time to the point at when it does it if it's not on the charger? Cuz mine's pretty bad on the charger.
I went through this as well. The various tricks to get it to work succeed on some phones and not others, but they're worth a try. In most cases the trackball will continue to deteriorate over time and mine got to the same point where I couldn't scroll down and therefore couldn't use RA to flash. But I needed to flash it back to stock so I could get a refurb from Verizon via my warranty. At that time, I don't think this RA that doesn't require a trackball was available. I asked about if there was and I couldn't find anything about it. Thought about trying to use the RA source and build a version myself but I just didn't have the time and lord knows, screwing that up might have really borked my phone for good, so I get it go. Now that RA without the trackball is out there, I'd use it if you can get that on your phone.
But there's another very easy solution. You can download ROM Manager from the market: ROM manager will let you flash ROMs without the trackball. It uses Clockwork Recovery for flashing and I was concerned at first about the stories of CR possibly bricking phones (in fact this not really a serious risk) or maybe making it harder to return the phone to unrooted stock or something else. But in fact, ROM manager uses Clockwork by only temporarily loading CR in memory, where you can use it to flash a ROM, and it does NOT replace RA! It leaves RA intact on your phone. If you reboot, RA is there. You can use ROM manager to flash any ROM and in my case I used it to flash the easy, return to stock zip that you can find here on the Eris forum. I brought it to the Verizon store and all I had to say was the trackball died and they traded me for a refurb.
BTW, this was a few months ago and there were several threads here with stories about people calling Verizon (not the stores) with tales of woe about their Eris and getting a free upgrade to Incredibles, Moto Droids, etc. if they were very nice about asking. This might have been a time when the inventory on the Eris was low. Anyway, I tried twice times and couldn't swing it - they only offered a refurb Eris. Found a local store with the Eris in stock and did it on the spot.
Now, if an Eris is out of warranty, then the best route is to replace the trackball. There are threads on XDA with all the step by step instructions you need. These are the same trackballs that are used in many of the Blackberrys and apparently those fail frequently and there are a LOT of options available on line for about $3-$5 via Amazon, etc. And hey, you can get them in kinds of whizzy colors ;-p
Hope this helps!
Good luck!
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Does the problem worsen over time to the point at when it does it if it's not on the charger? Cuz mine's pretty bad on the charger.
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That's my observation and experience.
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Oh Man!
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That's my observation and experience.
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crap! that is what I thought and this just confirmed the fate and almost certain death
I think I'm being stalked but maybe I'm not the only one.
So many of you know that the track ball on the eris does not do very well in the normal fone and for mine atleast does nothing in recovery mode. When i went to flash a new rom last night i coudnt even scroll down at all. An easy way to atleast let you navigate recovery and get your rom flashed is to press againts the slilver ring around the trackball with your fingernail. Its not perfect but it gets the job done. You have to keep pressing while you scroll which is not to easy but it works.
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So many of you know that the track ball on the eris does not do very well in the normal fone and for mine atleast does nothing in recovery mode. When i went to flash a new rom last night i coudnt even scroll down at all. An easy way to atleast let you navigate recovery and get your rom flashed is to press againts the slilver ring around the trackball with your fingernail. Its not perfect but it gets the job done. You have to keep pressing while you scroll which is not to easy but it works.
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Just so you are aware (in case you weren't ): Amon_RA 1.6.2 Custom Recovery: trackball not required!
Cheers!
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Just so you are aware (in case you weren't ): Amon_RA 1.6.2 Custom Recovery: trackball not required!
Cheers!
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You know, personally I wish all the most popular rooting methods would be more or less officially modified to include your customized version. The only reason I haven't put it on my phone yet is pure laziness, so far my trackball troubles are isolated to when I'm plugged in, and maybe that was because for so many months until recently tethering of one sort or another was my only internet. Even when WIFI tethering, I was often plugged in since it drank battery juice up like beer.
I digress. So the only reason I haven't put your customized recovery on my phone is because I don't have to, yet.
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You know, personally I wish all the most popular rooting methods would be more or less officially modified to include your customized version. The only reason I haven't put it on my phone yet is pure laziness, so far my trackball troubles are isolated to when I'm plugged in, and maybe that was because for so many months until recently tethering of one sort or another was my only internet. Even when WIFI tethering, I was often plugged in since it drank battery juice up like beer.
I digress. So the only reason I haven't put your customized recovery on my phone is because I don't have to, yet.
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lol...yeah, I still think people have some options to try to clean them first (i.e., like the BlackBerry trackball cleaning video, etc.).
I PM'd jcase a while back to see if he would mind me rebuilding his 1-click app (he shared the source with me), but I never heard back from him and didn't want to do it without his consent.
Also, there's lots of ways to get it on there... I'm actually kind of curious how many people have installed and needed it (although I would have built it for just one person, but its nice to know that I helped a few folks out ).
Cheers!
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lol...yeah, I still think people have some options to try to clean them first (i.e., like the BlackBerry trackball cleaning video, etc.).
I PM'd jcase a while back to see if he would mind me rebuilding his 1-click app (he shared the source with me), but I never heard back from him and didn't want to do it without his consent.
Also, there's lots of ways to get it on there... I'm actually kind of curious how many people have installed and needed it (although I would have built it for just one person, but its nice to know that I helped a few folks out ).
Cheers!
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Oh yeah, you might have mentioned that before about contacting jcase.
Yes, it would be nice to know; I've wondered myself. I'll let you know when I eventually do it! Thanks for it in advance!
I know i am a noob on this site but there are other ways to fix or clean the trackball rubbing alcohol on a cloth and move it fast over the ball.
second with no battery and sd card put the phone in the freezer in a zip loc bag or 20 mins.
plug the phone in and lightly push up on the usb cable and move the trackball
pluging a small video game controller into the usb port and working it that way...
I know all these work cause I use them myself at work and I am proud and not proud to say i do work for vzw and we have to check phones and thats how i do it
scaryalien I used your modded version and would only use this method because the trackball is unreliable. You Rock!
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scaryalien I used your modded version and would only use this method because the trackball is unreliable. You Rock!
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Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it...won't say it was easy...and props to Amon_RA for helping me figure-out how to do this for everyone.
Cheers!
Is there a file I can edit or remove to disable trackball functionality entirely?
The trackball has the bug where it perpetually scrolls to the left. Just curious what I can do to work around the problem.
Many thanks in advance
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Ah yes, I remember this problem. Not a fun experience at all.
The only luck I had was sending in my Eris to Verizon and getting another one. I'm pretty sure you can't do that anymore though, and they'll send you a D1 instead, if they even do that anymore.
Cleaning the trackball might work, since it could be just a piece of dirt causing problems. If you're as unlucky as I was though, its a hardware flaw that can't be (easily) fixed.
Yeah, its a common issue. However that would be an interesting fix lol i know there is another version of the recovery you can use that does not require the trackball, use that to unroot if it dies completely so you can return to Verizon.
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I have the same problem too, but i cant send to verizon because i am in canada for family and two days from now i will be in saudi arabia...so i cant really send it to verizon. I use my phone daily and it roams perfectly. I have 2.3 SENSE on my phone. Back when I had recieve teh bug, it was going on and on and on. After sometime, and also after some flashing new roms, the bug is not as "powerful" as it was before. Now it only does it when i charge it. I remember there was an app in the market that actually stopped the trackball but it only worked for a min. and then the app stops working. I hope this gives you a bit help!
Search under the Stickys here under Eris and it will point you to the link to download & flash the Recovery Rom - where use of trackball is optional, especially if do you boot into doing NAND backup/recovery or flash ROMs, etc.
Cleaning the trackball by pressing down hard & rubbing on a hard surface over a white printer/copier paper sometimes worked wonder (at least for a while - to me.) Stickys for earlier posts (plus look into YouTube for a demo) ....
I got my Eris via eBay and it's been out of warranty and the ultimate solution was to spend $2.50 (including shipping from USPS) to get a Blackberry (8300, etc.) trackball replacement & did a simple transplant or replacement - available in many colors (I got a black one, least expensive, to replace the transparent/clear one on the phone) - and less than 10 minutes of labor to get it changed, as good as brand new. Just need to use a jeweler's screwdriver (it's a torx/hex style micro screws x 4 plus 2 on the circuit board) to open the case with the cover removed, take out 4 screws & then pry carefully around the edge/rim to avoid scratching to pop it open enough, then taking out the 2 crews to get to the trackball. A slight push or nudge, it will pop out - note the direction of the contacts before putting your new one in - reverse the disassembly sequence. Power up once everything is tighten back together & you are good to go - watching that black/blue/red/orange colored trackball dance & light up.
It was a fun project for me & feeling of accomplishments, giving new life to the aging Eris coupled with one's choice of Froyo or GB Rom's.
Actually, I've had the problem for a while now. I've tested many rom's and it really depends on the rom. Funny isn't. I had come up infrequently in GSB. MacRom it didn't it a little but wasn't crazy. What i do to fix it is press down hard and that seems to fix it. I'm running Gin-Sense Tazz and haven't noticed it yet, but i've just flashed the rom.
I've heard of people fixing it by laying the phone down face first and rolling it around with pressure to reseat it. I'm not saying to, it might make the problem worse. But its a thought
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Thanks for the suggestions!
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I've replaced the trackball on a phone with this problem, still having occasional issues... The trackball replacement didn't fix it entirely. What to do next?
From what I understand of the trackball problem is that it is a grounding issue with the contacts and the charging/usb port. Mine is doing it also so when it breaks I will take it apart and find out for sure:}
I finally broke the annoying sucker and flashed a recovery that uses the call and end buttons instead of the trackball. I'm not having any issues.
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I finally broke the annoying sucker and flashed a recovery that uses the call and end buttons instead of the trackball. I'm not having any issues.
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Love seeing another satisfied customer .
Cheers!
Yep. I've been frustrated for so long that I was glad to finally fix it
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I finally broke the annoying sucker and flashed a recovery that uses the call and end buttons instead of the trackball. I'm not having any issues.
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did that recovery also disable the trackball within the ROM? Or just in recovery? can you post a link to it? Thanks!
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did that recovery also disable the trackball within the ROM? Or just in recovery? can you post a link to it? Thanks!
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No, the custom recovery is mutually exclusive of the ROM. Sorry, my tweaked version of Amon_RA's custom recovery can't touch the ROM that's installed...
Here's a link to the XDA post where for my tweaked version of the trackball-optional custom recovery for the Eris:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9124095&postcount=83
And here is the sister thread over on AndroidForums that has some installation options for you:
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/214240-amon_ra-1-6-2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html
Good luck and cheers!
After, I broke the trackball. All the trackball issues left and i needed a way to use the recovery. The recovery without trackball works great.
I also had a bad trackball, now using my wifes old eris since she upgrade to an inc2.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/htc-one-s-teardown/
Looks like getting the battery replaced isn't all that complicated at all. Maybe some company will even come out with a different plastics to accommodate a larger battery.
The guy in the above linked video actually removes the battery within three minutes and forty-two seconds.
That is very fast considering he was even narrating how to do it at the same time. I think I will send this to a few battery manufacturers to give them an incentive to create an aftermarket battery.
Thank you. I believed this could be done in theory. I even created a post about this and everyone was like, "No, you have to remove the screen and then that just gets too complicated." Actually, all you have to do is pop off the back with a flat head, remove four screws, separate the back plate and bam, remove battery and replace it. Takes all of about 3 minutes.
Since the phone is so thin, I wouldn't mind replacing the 2,000 maH battery with a 2,500 or even 3,000 maH battery with just a little added thickness. As long as it is no thicker than my Samsung Epic 4G. That is about perfect thickness. Anything bigger then I will just use a car charger or something.
So what happens when we get to that step in the root process or bootloop that says
"Remove Battery"?
Ugh.
Is there a hard reset button?
may be a hard reset button. but more likely it'll be like One X where 10sec power button push shuts phone off, then power and volume can be used to get to bootloader.
god, i hope i never have to pull my phone apart like that. watching that, I realized the whole time my muscles were clenched, and spine taut as though watching a life or death human surgery.
The one thing about getting this phone is the scare of not having the Non removable battery. I mean sure there's a hard reset, but we had one on the EVO 3D and 10% of the time it didn't work. Not to mention if you flashed the latest firmware leak its completely hindered and won't work anymore... So small things like that can be worrysome
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I've seen this too many times now... has anyone here ever owned an iPod touch? They don't have a removable battery and you can hard reset it JUST FINE. Its been posted several hundred times in every thread here.
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I've seen this too many times now... has anyone here ever owned an iPod touch? They don't have a removable battery and you can hard reset it JUST FINE. Its been posted several hundred times in every thread here.
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The iPod has a Li-Po battery like the LTEvo, instead of a Li-Ion like the OG Evo.
IPod totally diff, and thanks for pointing out Li-Po. Didn't know that.
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Except I'm referring to the Hard reset method, which will be similar.
Gave you a thanks to show no hard feelings. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
Edit: except defenders of apple must die at the sword and pen
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So what happens when we get to that step in the root process or bootloop that says
"Remove Battery"?
Ugh.
Is there a hard reset button?
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Maybe its like the Flyer whenever I have a bootloop or issue I hold power and vol down for a very long time then it opens bootloader. Oh by the way my Flyer has nonremovable battery.
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Ryno_666 said:
Maybe its like the Flyer whenever I have a bootloop or issue I hold power and vol down for a very long time then it opens bootloader. Oh by the way my Flyer has nonremovable battery.
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I have yet to see a tablet that has a removable one
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The Toshiba Thrive has a removable battery.
I think that if the batteries really are like this for our Evo's there will be the usual after market battery options.
ckoadiyn said:
I have yet to see a tablet that has a removable one
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A nice thing I learned while using my HTC Jetstream, which also does not have a removable battery is that if you ever end up in a bootloop, adb still works. So I always end up just doing an "adb reboot bootloader" to get out of a sticky situation
^ I was wondering when someone would pipe in with this bit of info. It works, very well. I wasn't worried about the sealed battery because of ADB. Maybe if more people used it (Meaning: Don't use a one click method, if possible. Learn how your phone works. If I'm 20 and can figure it out, so can everyone else.), we wouldn't have as many people asking questions they could easily fix themselves.
Once, long ago, there were no one click methods, and you had to do it yourself. (No, I wasn't Androiding then, but I wish I was.) If anyone else came from VZW and remembers the Fascinate (Galaxy S variant) some people couldn't get one click methods to work and had to do it manually. Setting your system partition as R/W for the first time, by your own hands, is very rewarding... especially with a Samsung phone.
Boot loader tools are a different story, but there is no reason anyone should not be able to at least root a device themselves once an approved method comes out.
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RegnierD said:
^ I was wondering when someone would pipe in with this bit of info. It works, very well. I wasn't worried about the sealed battery because of ADB. Maybe if more people used it (Meaning: Don't use a one click method, if possible. Learn how your phone works. If I'm 20 and can figure it out, so can everyone else.), we wouldn't have as many people asking questions they could easily fix themselves.
Once, long ago, there were no one click methods, and you had to do it yourself. (No, I wasn't Androiding then, but I wish I was.) If anyone else came from VZW and remembers the Fascinate (Galaxy S variant) some people couldn't get one click methods to work and had to do it manually. Setting your system partition as R/W for the first time, by your own hands, is very rewarding... especially with a Samsung phone.
Boot loader tools are a different story, but there is no reason anyone should not be able to at least root a device themselves once an approved method comes out.
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I hear ya, I too am also only 20. I have to admit, with my HTC EVO 4G, I did use a one click root method to get where I am today, but when it came to my HTC Jetstream, that was a different story entirely. It had a locked bootloader and the root process was a bit more tedious. With that being said, I have to admit, I learned a lot more while using my Jetstream.
I think manual method is a whole lot better. You actually learn something instead of just mechanically clicking a button, not knowing what is really going on in the background.
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I think manual method is a whole lot better. You actually learn something instead of just mechanically clicking a button, not knowing what is really going on in the background.
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In essence, on-click-root is for those Apple fanboys who want an automatic jailbreak, and DIY is for those hardcore Android mechanics who root like a bawss.
^^Very well said above! Seriously though, i truly hate the one click stuff because I don't really know what's going on behind the scenes.
For the original evo, there was a how to guide that was all manual. I went over each step until it was clear what was being done and why.
I'll admit, forbmy Incredible, I used a one click method, but I was curious about how it worked and investigated. It wasn't until my Fascinate that I actually needed to use it, but like I said, I was curious. I feel its important for rooted users to understand at least part of the process. It is an eye opener to a fraction of what our devs go through. It gives you a deeper appreciation.
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