http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/htc-one-s-teardown/
Looks like getting the battery replaced isn't all that complicated at all. Maybe some company will even come out with a different plastics to accommodate a larger battery.
The guy in the above linked video actually removes the battery within three minutes and forty-two seconds.
That is very fast considering he was even narrating how to do it at the same time. I think I will send this to a few battery manufacturers to give them an incentive to create an aftermarket battery.
Thank you. I believed this could be done in theory. I even created a post about this and everyone was like, "No, you have to remove the screen and then that just gets too complicated." Actually, all you have to do is pop off the back with a flat head, remove four screws, separate the back plate and bam, remove battery and replace it. Takes all of about 3 minutes.
Since the phone is so thin, I wouldn't mind replacing the 2,000 maH battery with a 2,500 or even 3,000 maH battery with just a little added thickness. As long as it is no thicker than my Samsung Epic 4G. That is about perfect thickness. Anything bigger then I will just use a car charger or something.
So what happens when we get to that step in the root process or bootloop that says
"Remove Battery"?
Ugh.
Is there a hard reset button?
may be a hard reset button. but more likely it'll be like One X where 10sec power button push shuts phone off, then power and volume can be used to get to bootloader.
god, i hope i never have to pull my phone apart like that. watching that, I realized the whole time my muscles were clenched, and spine taut as though watching a life or death human surgery.
The one thing about getting this phone is the scare of not having the Non removable battery. I mean sure there's a hard reset, but we had one on the EVO 3D and 10% of the time it didn't work. Not to mention if you flashed the latest firmware leak its completely hindered and won't work anymore... So small things like that can be worrysome
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I've seen this too many times now... has anyone here ever owned an iPod touch? They don't have a removable battery and you can hard reset it JUST FINE. Its been posted several hundred times in every thread here.
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I've seen this too many times now... has anyone here ever owned an iPod touch? They don't have a removable battery and you can hard reset it JUST FINE. Its been posted several hundred times in every thread here.
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The iPod has a Li-Po battery like the LTEvo, instead of a Li-Ion like the OG Evo.
IPod totally diff, and thanks for pointing out Li-Po. Didn't know that.
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Except I'm referring to the Hard reset method, which will be similar.
Gave you a thanks to show no hard feelings. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
Edit: except defenders of apple must die at the sword and pen
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So what happens when we get to that step in the root process or bootloop that says
"Remove Battery"?
Ugh.
Is there a hard reset button?
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Maybe its like the Flyer whenever I have a bootloop or issue I hold power and vol down for a very long time then it opens bootloader. Oh by the way my Flyer has nonremovable battery.
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Maybe its like the Flyer whenever I have a bootloop or issue I hold power and vol down for a very long time then it opens bootloader. Oh by the way my Flyer has nonremovable battery.
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I have yet to see a tablet that has a removable one
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The Toshiba Thrive has a removable battery.
I think that if the batteries really are like this for our Evo's there will be the usual after market battery options.
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I have yet to see a tablet that has a removable one
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A nice thing I learned while using my HTC Jetstream, which also does not have a removable battery is that if you ever end up in a bootloop, adb still works. So I always end up just doing an "adb reboot bootloader" to get out of a sticky situation
^ I was wondering when someone would pipe in with this bit of info. It works, very well. I wasn't worried about the sealed battery because of ADB. Maybe if more people used it (Meaning: Don't use a one click method, if possible. Learn how your phone works. If I'm 20 and can figure it out, so can everyone else.), we wouldn't have as many people asking questions they could easily fix themselves.
Once, long ago, there were no one click methods, and you had to do it yourself. (No, I wasn't Androiding then, but I wish I was.) If anyone else came from VZW and remembers the Fascinate (Galaxy S variant) some people couldn't get one click methods to work and had to do it manually. Setting your system partition as R/W for the first time, by your own hands, is very rewarding... especially with a Samsung phone.
Boot loader tools are a different story, but there is no reason anyone should not be able to at least root a device themselves once an approved method comes out.
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^ I was wondering when someone would pipe in with this bit of info. It works, very well. I wasn't worried about the sealed battery because of ADB. Maybe if more people used it (Meaning: Don't use a one click method, if possible. Learn how your phone works. If I'm 20 and can figure it out, so can everyone else.), we wouldn't have as many people asking questions they could easily fix themselves.
Once, long ago, there were no one click methods, and you had to do it yourself. (No, I wasn't Androiding then, but I wish I was.) If anyone else came from VZW and remembers the Fascinate (Galaxy S variant) some people couldn't get one click methods to work and had to do it manually. Setting your system partition as R/W for the first time, by your own hands, is very rewarding... especially with a Samsung phone.
Boot loader tools are a different story, but there is no reason anyone should not be able to at least root a device themselves once an approved method comes out.
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I hear ya, I too am also only 20. I have to admit, with my HTC EVO 4G, I did use a one click root method to get where I am today, but when it came to my HTC Jetstream, that was a different story entirely. It had a locked bootloader and the root process was a bit more tedious. With that being said, I have to admit, I learned a lot more while using my Jetstream.
I think manual method is a whole lot better. You actually learn something instead of just mechanically clicking a button, not knowing what is really going on in the background.
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I think manual method is a whole lot better. You actually learn something instead of just mechanically clicking a button, not knowing what is really going on in the background.
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In essence, on-click-root is for those Apple fanboys who want an automatic jailbreak, and DIY is for those hardcore Android mechanics who root like a bawss.
^^Very well said above! Seriously though, i truly hate the one click stuff because I don't really know what's going on behind the scenes.
For the original evo, there was a how to guide that was all manual. I went over each step until it was clear what was being done and why.
I'll admit, forbmy Incredible, I used a one click method, but I was curious about how it worked and investigated. It wasn't until my Fascinate that I actually needed to use it, but like I said, I was curious. I feel its important for rooted users to understand at least part of the process. It is an eye opener to a fraction of what our devs go through. It gives you a deeper appreciation.
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A few people who got there's already have posted on here and other threads it may be locked pretty good.If this is true and IF HTC does not send a OTA out for it will you keep it after 29 days?
To me if it can't be rooted by week 2-3 back it goes to sprint i have no use for it if i can't MOD it.
why theMOD EDIT does everyone play the what if game.
htc said they will unlock them how about we just wait and see and stop saying what if this happens.
I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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why the **** does everyone play the what if game.
htc said they will unlock them how about we just wait and see and stop saying what if this happens.
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Yep and we have the engineer hboot. It's all a matter of patience
Im more concerned about the picture quality and battery life. I havent used my digital camera except a few times since me and my gf got the evo 4g. The 8mp cameras awesome. The battery life sucks and from what i understand should be alot better on 3d. Im so sick of my friends iphone lastin all day at work. Me on the other hand i have to throw it on the charger by lunch
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I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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Came in here to post exactly this, word for word.
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I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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Me too! ten chars
oh and i would keep mine you know why?
cause rooting doesnt determine if i keep the phone or not yeah it would be nice to but its all extra.
I would bet 70% of the people on here would send it back before 30 days if it can't be rooted.
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I would bet 70% of the people on here would send it back before 30 days if it can't be rooted.
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Yup, I'm too addicted to modding and flashing to cut it out cold turkey. The 3d is clearly a badass phone, with or without root. But for it to keep me happy, I need root. I'll give it the 29 days. If no root by then, I'd return it and go back to using my Evo, then wait and see if a root method is found for the 3d. I feel pretty confident that root will be found within that time frame though.
Anything at this point is just speculation. No one from the general public will have an EVO 3d in hand until Wednesday at the earliest.
If HTC actually plans to unlock this device, it's quite possible they are waiting until the actual release to provide the code or key. After all, what good is a key if the lock hasn't been made yet? I hope HTC provides the key publicly and not as an OTA or other update. Sprint likely would not let that fly, but it will take Sprint six months to pass it through testing if they did.
What other phone would I go to? The Nexus? If there was something out there maybe but nothing else will be here in time...or anything good anyway.
But this bad boy will be rooted. It might be a month from now but HTC will hold up there side of the bargain and give us root access.
If it can't be rooted it will be replaced. Give a dog a bone.
But it will be rooted no doubt. Have no worries friends!
well i am rather addicted to flashing roms and themes so i dont know that i would want a phone where i cant do that but im also into having a faster phone... sigh
I'll keep mine, preferably rooted; but if not, I still have another Og Evo.
We have an eng hboot. Its not about if, its about when.
seriously???? a) Do you go out looking to start [email protected]#? b) we have already had this thread with a poll even. c) HTC said the phone boot loader issue will be resolved. for a man taking sprints word who was told by HTC about no shortage issue you are now questioning HTC? WTF??
Not even sure why I waste my time responding to you.
Originally I was going to get 2, but with what looks to be a shoddy camera and not knowing when the bootloader will be unlocked, I'm going to get just one. If the one, stock, ends up being better then I feel it might be or it gets full root within a couple weeks, I'll get a 2nd. If not, I'll wait for the Galaxy S 2 and might even return the 1st EVO 3D.
It's going to boil down to how I feel about the one I get. If it's better then expected, I'll get #2. If not, and depending on how well it performs to my liking, I might keep it or get rid of it too b4 the 30 days are up.
To be honest, I'm really hoping it's better then what I think it's going to be because I really don't like Samsung phones.
I'll be keeping it. If full root isn't gained in that time frame, we might have a temp root, allowing us to at least run root apps and do some other things.
I'd probably kill it with fire.
Hello everyone. I was looking at the rooting instructions like damnnn. Lots of steps. I remember when i had the og EVO or my vibrant I could root it and download a custom rom just using my phone. It was just put zip on root of SD card, apply zip, use that ROM changer app to download/apply custom ROM. Bam done. Is the 3D ever going to be that or no?
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I didn't mean to say the rooting process is too much, its just not as simple as before.
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I love the steps..Makes me feel like im actually rooting the phone..Thats just me though,I enjoy the process.
I'm not sure exactly what the exploit is that gets s-off so its hard to say if there will ever be a 1 click method or easier way.My guess is someone will make an easier way of doing it in the future.
Yea Rooting the vibrant 3g was very simple I used z4root it only takes 2mins.. One phone that took me the longest to root was Mytouch 4g because there's alot of steps to do.
It's about as close to one click as you can get with out being one click. all you need to do is run revolutionary and flash su. Even the old one clicks you still had to click to download then click to run, thats two clicks right there. Thats not counting the whole pluging your phone in. Personally I was impressed at how easy it was right away.
Maybe one day all you will need to do is put your 3vo under your pillow and the root fairy will come down and do it for you and leave a shiny quarter(not trying to be a prick here just funny)
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It's about as close to one click as you can get with out being one click. all you need to do is run revolutionary and flash su. Even the old one clicks you still had to click to download then click to run, thats two clicks right there. Thats not counting the whole pluging your phone in. Personally I was impressed at how easy it was right away.
Maybe one day all you will need to do is put your 3vo under your pillow and the root fairy will come down and do it for you and leave a shiny quarter(not trying to be a prick here just funny)
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It sounds simple when you say it like that lol. There's the command prompts and the sdk blah blah I'm not computer litterate but I try because I love my phone. LOL I wish there was a root fairy, and free money too? Win.
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I found it obscenely simple... Lol
My nook was a pain my nuts. The G1 was a ***** without the data Sim card, and the my touch 3g was almost as big of a pain. I'd root another Evo 3D in a heart beat. OG Evo was easier, but not by much.
My buddies fascinate is also a bit of a pain with versions of cwm having to match the rom, modem problems, and more.
E3D'ed... Booyah!
Well, i am not trying to be an asshole, but 1. I think we can't really complain about put a little bit of thinking to get what the devs put way more thinking and effort into. 2. It clearly states that it's a test beta release. maybe when it is actually finalized it will be easier to use.
No.. not too much at all.
I rooted a MyTouch Fender ... That was a process and a half. Required a Goldcard, flashing engineering hboot, flashing rom/kernel and then reflashing the retail hboot.
Hassle...
This.
Input serial
Run Revolutionary
Input serial...
Umm.... Oh yeah, that's all.
Are We Not Phones?
We Are D3VO!
Are we not phones?!
3.DeE.V.O.!!
Flonkas said:
It sounds simple when you say it like that lol. There's the command prompts and the sdk blah blah I'm not computer litterate but I try because I love my phone. LOL I wish there was a root fairy, and free money too? Win.
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To be honest with you....As much of a hassle as you think it is, learning how to use ADB and the neccessary commands from the computer is truly in your best interest. There very well may come a time when you need those very commands to recovery your phone from a bad flash or simple mistake. A lot of people use the simple root method, jump in head first and get into some serious trouble without having the neccessary knowledge to fix said problems. Just something to think about.
rooting the evo 3d was beyond easy.
i feel the evo 4g took more to root. i didnt even feel like i was rooting a phone flashed a few zips and i was done..
anyone saying its difficult or was to many steps will be the first to get bootlooped and wonder why.
Too much? I thought is was pretty simple. Click the bat file & let it go. Then type Y or N to install CWM. Then reboot into recovery & flash Su. Pretty damn easy. No need for ADB unless you want to flash Twerp & now they have a PCM files you just place on root of SD & reboot into Bootloader to flash. You must weren't around when the root & nand unlock first came out for the Hero & OG Evo. Now that got a little complicated. This is very simple.
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This thread proves exactly why HTC should NOT release an unlocked bootloader to the masses!
I am by no means trying to flame on ya OP, but if you consider the root utility for the 3D difficult you should start reading some more or not even be rooting at all.
This utility makes the rooting process cake. If this seems difficult you need to read up on ADB etc. This is a lot easier than the original rooting processes for most phones if you go back a few years. Try rooting using all command prompt with 25 steps that you have to do manually.
I hope that this isn't taken the wrong way, but this is the reason that carriers frown upon rooting...Because people get themselves into something that they shouldn't and end up using insurance at an excessive rate because they brick phones.
Sorry for my rant, just wanted to give my .02
Wow...this root process was super easy...took less then 5min for me...
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This thread proves exactly why HTC should NOT release an unlocked bootloader to the masses!
I am by no means trying to flame on ya OP, but if you consider the root utility for the 3D difficult you should start reading some more or not even be rooting at all.
This utility makes the rooting process cake. If this seems difficult you need to read up on ADB etc. This is a lot easier than the original rooting processes for most phones if you go back a few years. Try rooting using all command prompt with 25 steps that you have to do manually.
I hope that this isn't taken the wrong way, but this is the reason that carriers frown upon rooting...Because people get themselves into something that they shouldn't and end up using insurance at an excessive rate because they brick phones.
Sorry for my rant, just wanted to give my .02
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No worries. I think I have been spoiled with super easy one click root methods so i never had to learn adb or any of that. Just remember not everyone on xda are mega proficient with computers, guess I got some researching to do.
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klbjr;16233680 You must weren't around when the root & nand unlock first came out for the Hero & OG Evo. Now that got a little complicated. This is very simple.
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Those were a pain sometimes. It kept the riff raff out though. You had to be a pretty brave individual to go through that process, I think my brain exploded 3 times before I successfully rooted my hero.
The worst was I bought a g1 off ebay about a year ago, It was completely up to date and the bastard left his security lock on! We have no tmobile service here so I had to do all kinds of crazy ADB commands just to get past the gmail sign in because of having no sim card(back then you couldn't turn on wifi until you got past that point). Plus the whole rooting it too. What I'll do just to have buttons for my emulators.
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Agreed. I didn't even have to use adb to get twrp..just a flash in recovery. Painless. I can't see it needing to be any easier. I am impressed with how well executed Revolutionary is.
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i thought it was very simple compared to the other 5 phones i have done, its funny usually when we first get s-off its a pretty hard process for noobs, but congrats to unrevoked and alpharev for completing this one, and making a nice zip to do it
For the OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196131
Haven't tried it myself but here's a method without using ADB.
I can confirm that I bricked my phone tonight. I was playing in Clockwork trying to get a ext4 partition using a sdparted.txt. I gave up with that because I could not get it to work properly. Well I decided to push my a rom from adb to sd and it was taking forever so I closed out cmd and proceeded to mount SD from recovery but it would not mount. So I figured the SD card was locked up with CMD or perhaps I corrupted the partitions. So I pulled the battery and popped the sd in my pc and everything was fine with the card. So I went back and put the sd card back in my phone and tried to boot it up and I got nothing. I then plugged the phone into my pc and got nothing.. No lights no boot nothing. It did try to install QHSUSB_DLOAD drivers. Which I know someone is already working on. I guess sprint will be getting a visit tomorrow with my brick. Sigh.. No matter how experienced you think you are you are always not experienced enough..
Just wondering have you tried turning it on while its not plugged in? It may take a few pushes of the power button. Well you mentioned you tried before you plugged it in but try a few times, one time it took me 6 presses of the power button.
Try pulling the battery out waiting for 5 to 10 minutes then put it back and try booting!
Sywped from mah Supasonic!
To answer both of you Yes I have tried many times of pushing the power button plugged and unplugged and also leaving the battery an for extended period of time. No charging light comes on and it prompts for the QHSUSB_DLOAD drivers. I am assuming this is what trevE has been working on. Thus leading me to believe it is a full brick.
Can you get to your Hboot?
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So, what exactly are you going to tell sprint after you bricked your phone by flashing a rom through a custom recovery?
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So, what exactly are you going to tell sprint after you bricked your phone by flashing a rom through a custom recovery?
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I was doing an OTA update and then it didnt turn back on.
Yeah, doesn't work like that. EVO 3D has emmc that is write protected that is designed to revert to stock if ota fails.
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Yeah, doesn't work like that. EVO 3D has emmc that is write protected that is designed to revert to stock if ota fails.
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He could just say his phone turned off and now it wont boot. The employees at a Sprint repair center don't have the time or resources to launch an investigation into exactly how your phone failed and if it was his fault or not. Unless he opens his mouth or its some kind of physical/liquid damage they will give him a replacement no problem.
This is correct. By this I mean above post. They won't take the time to really check and you are not lying by saying it won't boot.
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Just tell them that you flipped the score on angry birds and then some crazy government stuff started flashing on your screen before it burned out. And then tell them that you might be the new intersect.
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But what happens if he says that then the Sprint guys find out he was lying? Do they ever do anything?
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But what happens if he says that then the Sprint guys find out he was lying? Do they ever do anything?
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They won't find out if the phone wont turn on. The problem is that people are not smarter than the equipment they are working with and do stupid things like brick their phones, and return them while lying and in the end, the rest of us end up suffering. Before Android brought in a whole slew of retards who bricked their phones, insurance was a 50 dollar deductible. I fully expect it to be 150 soon.
If you are dumb enough to try stupid things and brick your phone, at least man up and be responsible and do the right thing. Yeah, thats not going to happen.
if you brick a phone why not do the right thing and get yourself a new one by manning up and paying for it. I mean dont we all talk about doing the right thing? If you dont wanna pay retail, I am sure they will let your renew your upgrade, if you tell them you can either buy a phone or pay the ETF and go elsewhere, they will usually let you upgrade the phone.
I cant believe you experiment with stupid **** when you know it might f up the phone.
If you have insurance you can just lose it and pay the 100.00 ded. the brick should be worth at least a 100.00 on ebay. I sold an og evo with a broken lcd and bad esn. in an auction it got 126.50 about a month ago.
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They won't find out if the phone wont turn on. The problem is that people are not smarter than the equipment they are working with and do stupid things like brick their phones, and return them while lying and in the end, the rest of us end up suffering. Before Android brought in a whole slew of retards who bricked their phones, insurance was a 50 dollar deductible. I fully expect it to be 150 soon.
If you are dumb enough to try stupid things and brick your phone, at least man up and be responsible and do the right thing. Yeah, thats not going to happen.
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Meh just a soft brick, it's not like he's shipping it to them in pieces or anything. It just needs reflashed. If he were to use insurance the deductible would be nearly pure profit for them.
I remember seeing in another forum (can't remember which atm) that something was buggy in clockwork and it would zero out parts of the eMMC when formatting/partitioning something. It may be a good idea for someone to try and find out what it was doing to see if our version is prone to it also.
I decided to come back to my post and say a few more things. To the few who harped and lectured about taking my phone to sprint, I just wanted to let you know I explained to the sweet girl behind the counter that I was formatting my sdcard and some how the phones emmc got erased with it. She had no freaking clue Wtf I was talking about and just gave me a different phone. I never had any intention of claiming insurance or lying about how it happened. So you guys who whined can settle down now. But on another note this all happened on clock work and yes I was repartitioning the SD card via clock work / recovery - adb shell - sdparted.txt script.
Something funky happened when I did the battery pull after I could no longer mount the sdcard from within recovery..
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Meh just a soft brick, it's not like he's shipping it to them in pieces or anything. It just needs reflashed. If he were to use insurance the deductible would be nearly pure profit for them.
I remember seeing in another forum (can't remember which atm) that something was buggy in clockwork and it would zero out parts of the eMMC when formatting/partitioning something. It may be a good idea for someone to try and find out what it was doing to see if our version is prone to it also.
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I think that's the NookColor. You *cannot* format your SD (or on any non-stock rom) or you would format a portion of the eMMC and could (would always?) brick, hard....though it probably happens elsewhere, it's the entire platform from what I recall (of which the NookColor is a near reference design)...I think it was from confusion caused by how the partitions were referenced since you could boot from SD or eMMC or have any number of partitions on either.
If there were never any "retards" trying unknown things, there would be no dev community.
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If there were never any "retards" trying unknown things, there would be no dev community.
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+1 I r tard
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Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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No...
Did it immediately got wire trick 4th try.
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Not more than 20 minutes ago, I just got my friends Rezound S-OFF'd on the very very first attempt! After doing it successfully on my own phone once, it seems simple now.
Maybe I should start charging locals to bring their phones by my house if they don't wanna deal with it themselves.
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Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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I suggest doing it before it gets patched by an update
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Why wait ? Its simple. Just read a bit before you do. I have and if i ran into any trouble it was already solved somewhere so i knew how to fix it. It only takes imo 30 minutes and this is with getting success after 5 tries. Its really not that hard . Its simple
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I suggest doing it before it gets patched by an update
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Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
This is not for the faint of heart. But since you've already voided your warranty, the worst case scenario, is you have an expensive paperweight.
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This is not for the faint of heart. But since you've already voided your warranty, the worst case scenario, is you have an expensive paperweight.
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.... how has he/she voided their warranty already
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Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
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There's not enough details about how the process actually achieves S-OFF yet to actually make that assertion - but my belief is that it is probably patchable. The group who wrote the exploit specifically said that they won't release details of the method until its been patched, which leads me to believe that they feel it will be patched eventually.
RoryHe said:
.... how has he/she voided their warranty already
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Unlocking the Bootloader technically voids your warrantee but most are under the impression that if it is ever sent in for a warrantee replacement that nobody will even check.
Obtaining S-off actually gives you the power (through various steps) to make sure they never even know you unlocked it.
I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
Why wait? It's not that difficult. I'm a n00b, and it only took me about 15min. and 10 tries with a paperclip. Plus, I haven't experienced any of the problems others have... no problems getting it to recognize the SD card, no boot issues, nada. I was unlocked and running de-bloated GB prior to S-Off.
Give it a shot!
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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I agree. It sounds like almost all of the issues raised by the S-Off process have been ironed out, but the possibility of taking several hours to fix any issues has convinced me to wait to do S-Off. I hope to do it eventually, but to me the only reason I'd do S-Off is to be able to get back to S-On/Locked. I'm not terribly interested in flashing different boot images or changing my radios, so being Unlocked is good enough for now.
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I agree. It sounds like almost all of the issues raised by the S-Off process have been ironed out, but the possibility of taking several hours to fix any issues has convinced me to wait to do S-Off. I hope to do it eventually, but to me the only reason I'd do S-Off is to be able to get back to S-On/Locked. I'm not terribly interested in flashing different boot images or changing my radios, so being Unlocked is good enough for now.
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+1, I really see no hurry to do this plus I also don't have hours to prep or fix things if I screw up. lol. Probably will do so at some point though and Im sure it will be fun.
tekhna said:
Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
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It's not necessarily a hardware exploit. They're using a hardware event to get some software loaded into memory when you touch the wires. The question is whether the program that loads the hack when that event occurs -- or any of the other data and code the hack has to manipulate before changing the security bit -- can be replaced by something more secure.
And at least some of these components probably can be patched. There's apparently very little truly "hardcoded" logic in these things.
do it... after all the people that have done it no one has bricked a device... jsut follow the directions
it is well worth it. It took me a about 6 times to get the wire trick to work. timing is everything. But once you get the timing right, it is a breeze. AI'm enjoying the much added freedom. Go For It.
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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It may take you +10 hours but you can always boot back to your ROM at any time. (At least I could)
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putney1477 said:
I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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It may take you +10 hours but you can always boot back to your ROM at any time. (At least I could)
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Exactly, It's not ten hours straight through, but ten hours combined. When this was first released I tried for 5 hours to get it to work, but only got it to run through twice since the program would only detect my phone after an RUU. This issue was fixed in v0.2.2.
Once my dumb ass actually started using the correct pins I got it on the second try. Use a paper clip, that seems to be the easiest tool for shorting out and is what most people (including myself) have the most success with, just make sure to wrap it in electrical or duct tape.
I'd say there's no rush to do this. The tool is only going to get better and easier, it probably won't get patched for a while (if at all), and it's not really useful yet unless you want to downgrade your radio or change the splashscreen, no ROMs support it yet that I know of. The only really useful thing is nandroid backups that can restore your boot.img
So I flashed back into gb with the latest GB RUU it finished fine but... afterwords I entered Hboot and bam it turned off, Never to be awakened again. I have 2 batteries I tried and nothing tried adb reboot, still nothing. So I called vzw and I'm getting a "replacement". This will be my third rezound lets hope it works fine. anyone else have any stories for me while I wait for my phone to arrive?...
No, first phone works great right out of the box.
Via my HTC Rezound
Never had a single problem but maybe because mine was made in September which was likely one of the first productions
Proximity Sensor Died
Had my Rez for around 4 months. Noticed in the last week or so that the screen never shut off during a call. Rolled back to the latest GB RUU and relocked the phone. Tested again and still a no go.
Spoke with Verizon and they sent out a replacement. This one has another issue with the proximity sensor. Right after I dial, the screen goes black. Have to keep hitting the power button to wake the screen when I take it away from my head. Unless I have the phone tilted toward a light, the proximity sensor turns the screen off during calls. This one also has pink buttons.
Guess I'll be getting back with Verizon shortly...
You did check to make sure the sensor is not blocked right?
Blow it with some canned air. Lint gets in the way all the time.
Via my HTC Rezound
krelvinaz said:
You did check to make sure the sensor is not blocked right?
Blow it with some canned air. Lint gets in the way all the time.
Via my HTC Rezound
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One of mine had that problem too so I doubt it's because of lint. I'm on my 4th Rezound now!
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So I flashed back into gb with the latest GB RUU it finished fine but... afterwords I entered Hboot and bam it turned off, Never to be awakened again. I have 2 batteries I tried and nothing tried adb reboot, still nothing. So I called vzw and I'm getting a "replacement". This will be my third rezound lets hope it works fine. anyone else have any stories for me while I wait for my phone to arrive?...
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Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me with my original Rezound as I was trying to prepare it to send back to Verizon. Originally the screen just died, so I was using fastboot to restore to its original ROM and recovery, and somewhere along the process the Rezound just decided to die completely. Charge LED never illuminated again, and I couldn't get it to turn on at all after that. Oh well, it was on its way back to Verizon anyways.
First phone purchased on Cyber Monday, sent out December 15th when it came back in stock on AmazonWireless. It was January or February when the USB port just gave out, no charging or data flow at all. Had to get a CLN. Both with pink keys and light leak on the bottom >.<
im on my first, soon to be second. the big crack ive had for a month now is getting on my nerves. time to call up the insurance....
Still my first.
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I Am Marino said:
Still my first.
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Same here, jeez what the hell you guys do to your phones?
So it turns out my rezound is some type of vampire. it wouldnt turn on even to hboot so the battery was out while I was at work. I jokingly put the battery in and it booted to hboot. I'm still gonna get a replacement though. I just don't get what would cause it to not boot for a day.
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I'm still on my first rezound with no problems!
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Same here, jeez what the hell you guys do to your phones?
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My first one was detective out of the box. My back button barely had any light.
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AshtonTS said:
One of mine had that problem too so I doubt it's because of lint. I'm on my 4th Rezound now!
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Did you try blowing it out? Otherwise, you wouldn't know. HTC phones are notorious for this.
Po1soNNN said:
Same here, jeez what the hell you guys do to your phones?
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got me. Still on my first, gets a little warmer than I would like (130) but hate to replace it just to get a phone with new problems.
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So it turns out my rezound is some type of vampire. it wouldnt turn on even to hboot so the battery was out while I was at work. I jokingly put the battery in and it booted to hboot. I'm still gonna get a replacement though. I just don't get what would cause it to not boot for a day.
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Sure it wasn't something you did? Considering it happened while flashing things.
DrGlitchyPhD said:
My first one was detective out of the box. My back button barely had any light.
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Holmes or Watson?
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Did you try blowing it out? Otherwise, you wouldn't know. HTC phones are notorious for this.
got me. Still on my first, gets a little warmer than I would like (130) but hate to replace it just to get a phone with new problems.
Sure it wasn't something you did? Considering it happened while flashing things.
Holmes or Watson?
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Lol defective* and even it was something I did I don't what would cause it to come back to life 15 hours with the battery out.
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Here's my sad story. I spent a good 3 - 4 days getting my rezound working on CleanROM. It was not easy; re locking, downgrading the main very files, wiping, flashing Ruu, wiping again, flashing CleanROM, and so forth.
The next day I was charging it, and noticed it was hot at the plug (USB port) I re plugged in the charger and the heat was gone, as was the charge. Long story short, the USB port was fried. I called Verizon and they sent me a new one.
I was just about to start rooting it when I noticed the touch screen was not responsive in one area (an inch above the bottom of the phone).
It was at this point my wife ask when I would just stop with this phone and get an iPhone, b/c it just works. I won't go into the fight that ensued :-$.
So after proving to big red that it was not due to an application I installed, they agreed to send me a new new one (which I'm writing to you on now)
So far, so good. Fingers crossed.
I'll probably try rooting this guy tomorrow. Wish me luck .
-A_Bug
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I am expecting my 4th Rezound in a little over two weeks. Each one was not able to lock onto a 3G signal not to mention 4G. And after the 3rd Rezound they sent me a Razr Maxx with the same issue, did not like the Maxx any way. They and I are scratching our heads on how unlucky it has been. Before you say anything, yes all setting were correct, I even stop using custom roms and either way 4 phones with signal issues yet my ole Fassy still locks onto a 3g.
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I am expecting my 4th Rezound in a little over two weeks. Each one was not able to lock onto a 3G signal not to mention 4G. And after the 3rd Rezound they sent me a Razr Maxx with the same issue, did not like the Maxx any way. They and I are scratching our heads on how unlucky it has been. Before you say anything, yes all setting were correct, I even stop using custom roms and either way 4 phones with signal issues yet my ole Fassy still locks onto a 3g.
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You sure it's not a bad SIM card? That would explain having the issue across two different phones.
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My 2nd, the first had some bad screen tearing so I went and exchanged it, have been using this one for a couple of months now
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