Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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No...
Did it immediately got wire trick 4th try.
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Not more than 20 minutes ago, I just got my friends Rezound S-OFF'd on the very very first attempt! After doing it successfully on my own phone once, it seems simple now.
Maybe I should start charging locals to bring their phones by my house if they don't wanna deal with it themselves.
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I suggest doing it before it gets patched by an update
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Why wait ? Its simple. Just read a bit before you do. I have and if i ran into any trouble it was already solved somewhere so i knew how to fix it. It only takes imo 30 minutes and this is with getting success after 5 tries. Its really not that hard . Its simple
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I suggest doing it before it gets patched by an update
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Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
This is not for the faint of heart. But since you've already voided your warranty, the worst case scenario, is you have an expensive paperweight.
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This is not for the faint of heart. But since you've already voided your warranty, the worst case scenario, is you have an expensive paperweight.
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.... how has he/she voided their warranty already
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Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
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tekhna said:
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There's not enough details about how the process actually achieves S-OFF yet to actually make that assertion - but my belief is that it is probably patchable. The group who wrote the exploit specifically said that they won't release details of the method until its been patched, which leads me to believe that they feel it will be patched eventually.
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.... how has he/she voided their warranty already
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Unlocking the Bootloader technically voids your warrantee but most are under the impression that if it is ever sent in for a warrantee replacement that nobody will even check.
Obtaining S-off actually gives you the power (through various steps) to make sure they never even know you unlocked it.
I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
Why wait? It's not that difficult. I'm a n00b, and it only took me about 15min. and 10 tries with a paperclip. Plus, I haven't experienced any of the problems others have... no problems getting it to recognize the SD card, no boot issues, nada. I was unlocked and running de-bloated GB prior to S-Off.
Give it a shot!
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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I agree. It sounds like almost all of the issues raised by the S-Off process have been ironed out, but the possibility of taking several hours to fix any issues has convinced me to wait to do S-Off. I hope to do it eventually, but to me the only reason I'd do S-Off is to be able to get back to S-On/Locked. I'm not terribly interested in flashing different boot images or changing my radios, so being Unlocked is good enough for now.
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I agree. It sounds like almost all of the issues raised by the S-Off process have been ironed out, but the possibility of taking several hours to fix any issues has convinced me to wait to do S-Off. I hope to do it eventually, but to me the only reason I'd do S-Off is to be able to get back to S-On/Locked. I'm not terribly interested in flashing different boot images or changing my radios, so being Unlocked is good enough for now.
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+1, I really see no hurry to do this plus I also don't have hours to prep or fix things if I screw up. lol. Probably will do so at some point though and Im sure it will be fun.
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It's not necessarily a hardware exploit. They're using a hardware event to get some software loaded into memory when you touch the wires. The question is whether the program that loads the hack when that event occurs -- or any of the other data and code the hack has to manipulate before changing the security bit -- can be replaced by something more secure.
And at least some of these components probably can be patched. There's apparently very little truly "hardcoded" logic in these things.
do it... after all the people that have done it no one has bricked a device... jsut follow the directions
it is well worth it. It took me a about 6 times to get the wire trick to work. timing is everything. But once you get the timing right, it is a breeze. AI'm enjoying the much added freedom. Go For It.
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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It may take you +10 hours but you can always boot back to your ROM at any time. (At least I could)
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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It may take you +10 hours but you can always boot back to your ROM at any time. (At least I could)
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Exactly, It's not ten hours straight through, but ten hours combined. When this was first released I tried for 5 hours to get it to work, but only got it to run through twice since the program would only detect my phone after an RUU. This issue was fixed in v0.2.2.
Once my dumb ass actually started using the correct pins I got it on the second try. Use a paper clip, that seems to be the easiest tool for shorting out and is what most people (including myself) have the most success with, just make sure to wrap it in electrical or duct tape.
I'd say there's no rush to do this. The tool is only going to get better and easier, it probably won't get patched for a while (if at all), and it's not really useful yet unless you want to downgrade your radio or change the splashscreen, no ROMs support it yet that I know of. The only really useful thing is nandroid backups that can restore your boot.img
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Has there been any word from sprint or HTC about the status of the e3d bootloader on launch day?
it will be locked at launch which is not a problem. the problem is that it will be cryptographically signed at launch
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it will be locked at launch which is not a problem. the problem is that it will be cryptographically signed at launch
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well technically every phone is locked but the term locked/encrypted is used with one another so my question is about the encryption status at launch?
HTC has had almost a month from when they reversed their policy til launch. I was wondering if they are ready
I can't find the link, but I thought I read somewhere a week or so back on Android Central (maybe) that the 3D will ship encrypted then later on (who knows how long) HTC will offer a software update that will un-encrypt it so we can have access to the bootloader/nand and be able to write ROMs and Kernels.
I could be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt
They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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I could not agree more.
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They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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I could not agree more.
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why? they have already said they will unlock it. do you know how long it takes to get things done in the real world? they will have to create a tool or new bootloader that is switchable. these things need to be created and thoroughly tested before rolling out to avoid potentially bricking phones. not to mention all the red tape im sure they will have to go through with the carriers. it will happen, but i wouldnt guess within 30 days so you might as well just not buy it.
now the devs who got the dump with the engineering bootloader may get the phone unlocked within that time frame but thats a different story
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now the devs who got the dump with the engineering bootloader may get the phone unlocked within that time frame but thats a different story
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exactly thats why i started a different thread trying to discuss the official unlocking vs unofficial. Unless this engineering leak really came from HTC to keep us happy why they try to do their thing.
But I for one would love to know what their plan is.
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why? they have already said they will unlock it. do you know how long it takes to get things done in the real world? they will have to create a tool or new bootloader that is switchable. these things need to be created and thoroughly tested before rolling out to avoid potentially bricking phones. not to mention all the red tape im sure they will have to go through with the carriers. it will happen, but i wouldnt guess within 30 days so you might as well just not buy it.
now the devs who got the dump with the engineering bootloader may get the phone unlocked within that time frame but thats a different story
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eh I should have been more specific i was referring to the samsung phones being pieces of crap I can wait for the unlocking no biggie there.
Depending on how the phone operates out of the box, I think I can wait however long it takes for them to unlock it. I don't use wireless tether hardly at all, and aside from that, that's the only reason I would need to root it. I prefer stock ROMs sometimes, as long as they're responsive. I can go with custom ROMs built to look stock if the stock ROM functions crappy.
I will tell you the status when I have the phone in my hands.... LOL
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daneurysm said:
They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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agreed
would have been sent from my nxs4g if i could get a signal anywhere
Just curious...Will something like Z4 root work to get us the ability to use wireless tether? I don't need all the custom roms right away but would like to still be able to tether my nook!
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Just curious...Will something like Z4 root work to get us the ability to use wireless tether? I don't need all the custom roms right away but would like to still be able to tether my nook!
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Z4root was patched way back in froyo so no.
So I've got my new 3D and I'm assuming S-boot is ON, but I can't boot into the bootloader menu to check by holding the volume and power keys down. How does one check it on the 3D?
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So I've got my new 3D and I'm assuming S-boot is ON, but I can't boot into the bootloader menu to check by holding the volume and power keys down. How does one check it on the 3D?
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Do that but pull battery first
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So I've got my new 3D and I'm assuming S-boot is ON, but I can't boot into the bootloader menu to check by holding the volume and power keys down. How does one check it on the 3D?
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Fast Boot is enabled which is why the phone boots up so fast. When you power off the phone it is in hibernation and not completely shut down. Disable fast boot from menu>settings and you should be able to boot into it by pressing volume down and power.
right on - thanks unCoRrUpTeD.
S-ON as expected
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
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Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
blooregard_q_kazoo said:
i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.
Wow - they snuck that out, didn't they. Walked back to my phone and saw it was in the middle of a forced update. So much for temp root, etc. Really bummed.
If you are using temp root simply because you don't want to unlock the boot loader, sorry I have no sympathy for you. If you can't unlock it because it is a company phone or something, then I feel bad for you.
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If you are using temp root simply because you don't want to unlock the boot loader, sorry I have no sympathy for you. If you can't unlock it because it is a company phone or something, then I feel bad for you.
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Con ... first, thanks for all the work you do for the Rezound.
To answer you ... it's all on me I'm on Rezound # 4 and since heat is very subjective and there is no answer to what ultimately happens when/if a "re-locked" phone gets back to Verizon, I haven't unlocked. It was nice having temp root from time to time when needed, but I don't have $650 lying around, so I stayed locked.
I'll tell ya ... I wish we had S-OFF and S-ON swapping like on my dearly departed DINC. That would solve it all
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Con ... first, thanks for all the work you do for the Rezound.
To answer you ... it's all on me I'm on Rezound # 4 and since heat is very subjective and there is no answer to what ultimately happens when/if a "re-locked" phone gets back to Verizon, I haven't unlocked. It was nice having temp root from time to time when needed, but I don't have $650 lying around, so I stayed locked.
I'll tell ya ... I wish we had S-OFF and S-ON swapping like on my dearly departed DINC. That would solve it all
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I usually give my devices the 2 week rule. If it doesn't have problems in the first 2 weeks, it is likely it won't have any until the warranty expires. Then at that point I would be paying for issues anyway. If it has problems in those 2 weeks (I have NEVER had an issue with an electronic device in my life as far back as my 4th gen clickwheel ipod) I would keep returning until I get a good one.
Welp
con247 said:
I usually give my devices the 2 week rule. If it doesn't have problems in the first 2 weeks, it is likely it won't have any until the warranty expires. Then at that point I would be paying for issues anyway. If it has problems in those 2 weeks (I have NEVER had an issue with an electronic device in my life as far back as my 4th gen clickwheel ipod) I would keep returning until I get a good one.
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... and that's a good rule; but whether or not a phone overheats (which is what I wish I knew) or is acting normally given the ambient temperature + what you are doing, is too subjective across threads to be determinable. Short of standing next to someone running basically the same background threads (although I would gladly dismiss that), running battery indicator, and playing the same game at the same time for the same length; there is no true way to know yes or no. ... so that 2 weeks never ticks off
Anyway - again, thanks for all your hard work for the Rezound.
One word..... Asurion, their replacement program is awesome and they don't care about root etc. IF you ever have an issue you call CS and complain. They promptly send out a new one. You just gotta pay the initial 100 dollars.
The cheaply made htc batteries have a lot to do with the overheating. When they start using some well made batteries the overheating should stop.
I just got the rezound.
Unlocked-fine
Rooted-fine
Put ICS on it- Crashes everr 3 minutes
Put stock back on- bricked?
I really need help
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I just got the rezound.
Unlocked-fine
Rooted-fine
Put ICS on it- Crashes everr 3 minutes
Put stock back on- bricked?
I really need help
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how did you attempt to put stick back on it?
fenguepay said:
I just got the rezound.
Unlocked-fine
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Put ICS on it- Crashes everr 3 minutes
Put stock back on- bricked?
I really need help
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Define bricked for us. "Bricked" generally means that you can't get it to turn on at all. If you are getting bootloops or whatever, you still have hope!
Can you get to the boot loader? If so, have no fear. The path to redemption is probably going to be simple.
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Define bricked for us. "Bricked" generally means that you can't get it to turn on at all. If you are getting bootloops or whatever, you still have hope!
Can you get to the boot loader? If so, have no fear. The path to redemption is probably going to be simple.
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and if not you sound like a perfect candidate for the downdate because people cant get their phones to brick XD
Thanks for the quick replies
I am in the bootloader currently and i get a lit up black screen when i turn it on. But the bootloader seems to be glitching a bit but i relocked the bootloader and am retrying on the ics.
fenguepay said:
I am in the bootloader currently and i get a lit up black screen when i turn it on. But the bootloader seems to be glitching a bit but i relocked the bootloader and am retrying on the ics.
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I hope you are doing the RUU. Follow these instructions closely and slowly and I bet you'll be back up and running in the hour.
Don't forget to check you MD5 after you put the RUU on the SD... just in case. And run the RUU twice, just like the instructions say. It's essential.
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Its funny becasue iwas doing exactly that. Do i HAVE to relock?
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I hope you are doing the RUU. Follow these instructions closely and slowly and I bet you'll be back up and running in the hour.
Don't forget to check you MD5 after you put the RUU on the SD... just in case. And run the RUU twice, just like the instructions say. It's essential.
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I have to commend you on stressing checking the MD5! It seems people have completely left this important step out of the flashing equation. I forget who it was who said this, but it holds true. "Flashing a file without checking the MD5 is like having sex with a known prostitute without a condom" Classic awesomeness! It seems that running the RUU twice is getting by a lot of people. It is DEFINITELY essential!l,
Accidental
I accidentaly ran it twice and i didnt chack the md5 but it worked!!!!! i think...
Which ICS ROM?
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I have to commend you on stressing checking the MD5! It seems people have completely left this important step out of the flashing equation. I forget who it was who said this, but it holds true. "Flashing a file without checking the MD5 is like having sex with a known prostitute without a condom" Classic awesomeness! It seems that running the RUU twice is getting by a lot of people. It is DEFINITELY essential!l,
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Personally, i have NEVER checked the MD5 sum and never had a problem. Maybe i have just been lucky but i think that probably 99.9% of the time theres no point
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Personally, i have NEVER checked the MD5 sum and never had a problem. Maybe i have just been lucky but i think that probably 99.9% of the time theres no point
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99.999% of the time there is no point... but you don't want to be that .0001% unless you have insurance on the phone!
Glad to hear you may be back up and going.
The one with the face
I got the one from that site you sent me, i am restoring market as we speak
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99.999% of the time there is no point... but you don't want to be that .0001% unless you have insurance on the phone!
Glad to hear you may be back up and going.
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i mean it probably helps that i have fios because the files download so fast that its less likely somthing will become corrupt. i also refrain from flashing anything that has a chance to brick my phone though
Will a bad md5sum screw you over FOREVER?
Mill mah phone just suicide if it is bad?
just got a message"Your phone is using more power than the usb cna deliver" |O
Re rooting
I got the mirror 3 form android police. Can i reroot on ics from this? do i just unlock- flash superuser again?
Also, i didnt purchase 4g and i am getting it
is this very normal, can i stop the 4g, i need to save money
werdna87 said:
Personally, i have NEVER checked the MD5 sum and never had a problem. Maybe i have just been lucky but i think that probably 99.9% of the time theres no point
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It's just good common sense to check the MD5. It takes like 5 seconds and could save you tons of problems. Flash a bad file to your phone once and see how you feel about it!
fenguepay said:
Mill mah phone just suicide if it is bad?
just got a message"Your phone is using more power than the usb cna deliver" |O
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This is normal. i forget when but i know i saw it before. It just means your phone is pulling more power then the USB can pull. Try using the adapter that came with your phone
fenguepay said:
is this very normal, can i stop the 4g, i need to save money
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You don't purchase 4G seperately. If you have a 4G phone and a data plan, it is part of the deal.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/htc-one-s-teardown/
Looks like getting the battery replaced isn't all that complicated at all. Maybe some company will even come out with a different plastics to accommodate a larger battery.
The guy in the above linked video actually removes the battery within three minutes and forty-two seconds.
That is very fast considering he was even narrating how to do it at the same time. I think I will send this to a few battery manufacturers to give them an incentive to create an aftermarket battery.
Thank you. I believed this could be done in theory. I even created a post about this and everyone was like, "No, you have to remove the screen and then that just gets too complicated." Actually, all you have to do is pop off the back with a flat head, remove four screws, separate the back plate and bam, remove battery and replace it. Takes all of about 3 minutes.
Since the phone is so thin, I wouldn't mind replacing the 2,000 maH battery with a 2,500 or even 3,000 maH battery with just a little added thickness. As long as it is no thicker than my Samsung Epic 4G. That is about perfect thickness. Anything bigger then I will just use a car charger or something.
So what happens when we get to that step in the root process or bootloop that says
"Remove Battery"?
Ugh.
Is there a hard reset button?
may be a hard reset button. but more likely it'll be like One X where 10sec power button push shuts phone off, then power and volume can be used to get to bootloader.
god, i hope i never have to pull my phone apart like that. watching that, I realized the whole time my muscles were clenched, and spine taut as though watching a life or death human surgery.
The one thing about getting this phone is the scare of not having the Non removable battery. I mean sure there's a hard reset, but we had one on the EVO 3D and 10% of the time it didn't work. Not to mention if you flashed the latest firmware leak its completely hindered and won't work anymore... So small things like that can be worrysome
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I've seen this too many times now... has anyone here ever owned an iPod touch? They don't have a removable battery and you can hard reset it JUST FINE. Its been posted several hundred times in every thread here.
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Art2Fly said:
I've seen this too many times now... has anyone here ever owned an iPod touch? They don't have a removable battery and you can hard reset it JUST FINE. Its been posted several hundred times in every thread here.
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The iPod has a Li-Po battery like the LTEvo, instead of a Li-Ion like the OG Evo.
IPod totally diff, and thanks for pointing out Li-Po. Didn't know that.
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Except I'm referring to the Hard reset method, which will be similar.
Gave you a thanks to show no hard feelings. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
Edit: except defenders of apple must die at the sword and pen
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mswlogo said:
So what happens when we get to that step in the root process or bootloop that says
"Remove Battery"?
Ugh.
Is there a hard reset button?
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Maybe its like the Flyer whenever I have a bootloop or issue I hold power and vol down for a very long time then it opens bootloader. Oh by the way my Flyer has nonremovable battery.
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Ryno_666 said:
Maybe its like the Flyer whenever I have a bootloop or issue I hold power and vol down for a very long time then it opens bootloader. Oh by the way my Flyer has nonremovable battery.
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I have yet to see a tablet that has a removable one
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The Toshiba Thrive has a removable battery.
I think that if the batteries really are like this for our Evo's there will be the usual after market battery options.
ckoadiyn said:
I have yet to see a tablet that has a removable one
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A nice thing I learned while using my HTC Jetstream, which also does not have a removable battery is that if you ever end up in a bootloop, adb still works. So I always end up just doing an "adb reboot bootloader" to get out of a sticky situation
^ I was wondering when someone would pipe in with this bit of info. It works, very well. I wasn't worried about the sealed battery because of ADB. Maybe if more people used it (Meaning: Don't use a one click method, if possible. Learn how your phone works. If I'm 20 and can figure it out, so can everyone else.), we wouldn't have as many people asking questions they could easily fix themselves.
Once, long ago, there were no one click methods, and you had to do it yourself. (No, I wasn't Androiding then, but I wish I was.) If anyone else came from VZW and remembers the Fascinate (Galaxy S variant) some people couldn't get one click methods to work and had to do it manually. Setting your system partition as R/W for the first time, by your own hands, is very rewarding... especially with a Samsung phone.
Boot loader tools are a different story, but there is no reason anyone should not be able to at least root a device themselves once an approved method comes out.
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RegnierD said:
^ I was wondering when someone would pipe in with this bit of info. It works, very well. I wasn't worried about the sealed battery because of ADB. Maybe if more people used it (Meaning: Don't use a one click method, if possible. Learn how your phone works. If I'm 20 and can figure it out, so can everyone else.), we wouldn't have as many people asking questions they could easily fix themselves.
Once, long ago, there were no one click methods, and you had to do it yourself. (No, I wasn't Androiding then, but I wish I was.) If anyone else came from VZW and remembers the Fascinate (Galaxy S variant) some people couldn't get one click methods to work and had to do it manually. Setting your system partition as R/W for the first time, by your own hands, is very rewarding... especially with a Samsung phone.
Boot loader tools are a different story, but there is no reason anyone should not be able to at least root a device themselves once an approved method comes out.
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I hear ya, I too am also only 20. I have to admit, with my HTC EVO 4G, I did use a one click root method to get where I am today, but when it came to my HTC Jetstream, that was a different story entirely. It had a locked bootloader and the root process was a bit more tedious. With that being said, I have to admit, I learned a lot more while using my Jetstream.
I think manual method is a whole lot better. You actually learn something instead of just mechanically clicking a button, not knowing what is really going on in the background.
gpz1100 said:
I think manual method is a whole lot better. You actually learn something instead of just mechanically clicking a button, not knowing what is really going on in the background.
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In essence, on-click-root is for those Apple fanboys who want an automatic jailbreak, and DIY is for those hardcore Android mechanics who root like a bawss.
^^Very well said above! Seriously though, i truly hate the one click stuff because I don't really know what's going on behind the scenes.
For the original evo, there was a how to guide that was all manual. I went over each step until it was clear what was being done and why.
I'll admit, forbmy Incredible, I used a one click method, but I was curious about how it worked and investigated. It wasn't until my Fascinate that I actually needed to use it, but like I said, I was curious. I feel its important for rooted users to understand at least part of the process. It is an eye opener to a fraction of what our devs go through. It gives you a deeper appreciation.
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