Bootloader Status On Launch Day? - HTC EVO 3D

Has there been any word from sprint or HTC about the status of the e3d bootloader on launch day?

it will be locked at launch which is not a problem. the problem is that it will be cryptographically signed at launch

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it will be locked at launch which is not a problem. the problem is that it will be cryptographically signed at launch
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well technically every phone is locked but the term locked/encrypted is used with one another so my question is about the encryption status at launch?
HTC has had almost a month from when they reversed their policy til launch. I was wondering if they are ready

I can't find the link, but I thought I read somewhere a week or so back on Android Central (maybe) that the 3D will ship encrypted then later on (who knows how long) HTC will offer a software update that will un-encrypt it so we can have access to the bootloader/nand and be able to write ROMs and Kernels.
I could be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt

They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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daneurysm said:
They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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I could not agree more.

daneurysm said:
They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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Bostonfin said:
I could not agree more.
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why? they have already said they will unlock it. do you know how long it takes to get things done in the real world? they will have to create a tool or new bootloader that is switchable. these things need to be created and thoroughly tested before rolling out to avoid potentially bricking phones. not to mention all the red tape im sure they will have to go through with the carriers. it will happen, but i wouldnt guess within 30 days so you might as well just not buy it.
now the devs who got the dump with the engineering bootloader may get the phone unlocked within that time frame but thats a different story

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now the devs who got the dump with the engineering bootloader may get the phone unlocked within that time frame but thats a different story
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exactly thats why i started a different thread trying to discuss the official unlocking vs unofficial. Unless this engineering leak really came from HTC to keep us happy why they try to do their thing.
But I for one would love to know what their plan is.

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why? they have already said they will unlock it. do you know how long it takes to get things done in the real world? they will have to create a tool or new bootloader that is switchable. these things need to be created and thoroughly tested before rolling out to avoid potentially bricking phones. not to mention all the red tape im sure they will have to go through with the carriers. it will happen, but i wouldnt guess within 30 days so you might as well just not buy it.
now the devs who got the dump with the engineering bootloader may get the phone unlocked within that time frame but thats a different story
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eh I should have been more specific i was referring to the samsung phones being pieces of crap I can wait for the unlocking no biggie there.

Depending on how the phone operates out of the box, I think I can wait however long it takes for them to unlock it. I don't use wireless tether hardly at all, and aside from that, that's the only reason I would need to root it. I prefer stock ROMs sometimes, as long as they're responsive. I can go with custom ROMs built to look stock if the stock ROM functions crappy.

I will tell you the status when I have the phone in my hands.... LOL
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daneurysm said:
They get 30 days to unlock my phone...and then it gets returned and I swear off HTC for good....too bad, I hate samsung phones... Their radios suck
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agreed
would have been sent from my nxs4g if i could get a signal anywhere

Just curious...Will something like Z4 root work to get us the ability to use wireless tether? I don't need all the custom roms right away but would like to still be able to tether my nook!

cmdauria said:
Just curious...Will something like Z4 root work to get us the ability to use wireless tether? I don't need all the custom roms right away but would like to still be able to tether my nook!
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Z4root was patched way back in froyo so no.

So I've got my new 3D and I'm assuming S-boot is ON, but I can't boot into the bootloader menu to check by holding the volume and power keys down. How does one check it on the 3D?

graham722 said:
So I've got my new 3D and I'm assuming S-boot is ON, but I can't boot into the bootloader menu to check by holding the volume and power keys down. How does one check it on the 3D?
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Do that but pull battery first
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graham722 said:
So I've got my new 3D and I'm assuming S-boot is ON, but I can't boot into the bootloader menu to check by holding the volume and power keys down. How does one check it on the 3D?
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Fast Boot is enabled which is why the phone boots up so fast. When you power off the phone it is in hibernation and not completely shut down. Disable fast boot from menu>settings and you should be able to boot into it by pressing volume down and power.

right on - thanks unCoRrUpTeD.
S-ON as expected

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If the EVO3D can't be rooted will you keep it?

A few people who got there's already have posted on here and other threads it may be locked pretty good.If this is true and IF HTC does not send a OTA out for it will you keep it after 29 days?
To me if it can't be rooted by week 2-3 back it goes to sprint i have no use for it if i can't MOD it.
why theMOD EDIT does everyone play the what if game.
htc said they will unlock them how about we just wait and see and stop saying what if this happens.
I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
jersey221 said:
why the **** does everyone play the what if game.
htc said they will unlock them how about we just wait and see and stop saying what if this happens.
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Yep and we have the engineer hboot. It's all a matter of patience
Im more concerned about the picture quality and battery life. I havent used my digital camera except a few times since me and my gf got the evo 4g. The 8mp cameras awesome. The battery life sucks and from what i understand should be alot better on 3d. Im so sick of my friends iphone lastin all day at work. Me on the other hand i have to throw it on the charger by lunch
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YoungSinema said:
I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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Came in here to post exactly this, word for word.
YoungSinema said:
I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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Me too! ten chars
oh and i would keep mine you know why?
cause rooting doesnt determine if i keep the phone or not yeah it would be nice to but its all extra.
I would bet 70% of the people on here would send it back before 30 days if it can't be rooted.
rdcrds said:
I would bet 70% of the people on here would send it back before 30 days if it can't be rooted.
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Yup, I'm too addicted to modding and flashing to cut it out cold turkey. The 3d is clearly a badass phone, with or without root. But for it to keep me happy, I need root. I'll give it the 29 days. If no root by then, I'd return it and go back to using my Evo, then wait and see if a root method is found for the 3d. I feel pretty confident that root will be found within that time frame though.
Anything at this point is just speculation. No one from the general public will have an EVO 3d in hand until Wednesday at the earliest.
If HTC actually plans to unlock this device, it's quite possible they are waiting until the actual release to provide the code or key. After all, what good is a key if the lock hasn't been made yet? I hope HTC provides the key publicly and not as an OTA or other update. Sprint likely would not let that fly, but it will take Sprint six months to pass it through testing if they did.
What other phone would I go to? The Nexus? If there was something out there maybe but nothing else will be here in time...or anything good anyway.
But this bad boy will be rooted. It might be a month from now but HTC will hold up there side of the bargain and give us root access.
If it can't be rooted it will be replaced. Give a dog a bone.
But it will be rooted no doubt. Have no worries friends!
well i am rather addicted to flashing roms and themes so i dont know that i would want a phone where i cant do that but im also into having a faster phone... sigh
I'll keep mine, preferably rooted; but if not, I still have another Og Evo.
We have an eng hboot. Its not about if, its about when.
seriously???? a) Do you go out looking to start [email protected]#? b) we have already had this thread with a poll even. c) HTC said the phone boot loader issue will be resolved. for a man taking sprints word who was told by HTC about no shortage issue you are now questioning HTC? WTF??
Not even sure why I waste my time responding to you.
Originally I was going to get 2, but with what looks to be a shoddy camera and not knowing when the bootloader will be unlocked, I'm going to get just one. If the one, stock, ends up being better then I feel it might be or it gets full root within a couple weeks, I'll get a 2nd. If not, I'll wait for the Galaxy S 2 and might even return the 1st EVO 3D.
It's going to boil down to how I feel about the one I get. If it's better then expected, I'll get #2. If not, and depending on how well it performs to my liking, I might keep it or get rid of it too b4 the 30 days are up.
To be honest, I'm really hoping it's better then what I think it's going to be because I really don't like Samsung phones.
I'll be keeping it. If full root isn't gained in that time frame, we might have a temp root, allowing us to at least run root apps and do some other things.
I'd probably kill it with fire.

Should I Root?

Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
Take05 said:
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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timezone12 said:
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
Sad Panda said:
I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
blooregard_q_kazoo said:
i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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thos25 said:
There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.

I'm scared doing S-Off right now

Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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mentallo said:
Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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No...
Did it immediately got wire trick 4th try.
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Not more than 20 minutes ago, I just got my friends Rezound S-OFF'd on the very very first attempt! After doing it successfully on my own phone once, it seems simple now.
Maybe I should start charging locals to bring their phones by my house if they don't wanna deal with it themselves.
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Anybody else waiting to do it later also?
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I suggest doing it before it gets patched by an update
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Why wait ? Its simple. Just read a bit before you do. I have and if i ran into any trouble it was already solved somewhere so i knew how to fix it. It only takes imo 30 minutes and this is with getting success after 5 tries. Its really not that hard . Its simple
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I suggest doing it before it gets patched by an update
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Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
This is not for the faint of heart. But since you've already voided your warranty, the worst case scenario, is you have an expensive paperweight.
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This is not for the faint of heart. But since you've already voided your warranty, the worst case scenario, is you have an expensive paperweight.
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.... how has he/she voided their warranty already
tekhna said:
Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
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tekhna said:
Is it even patchable since it's a hardware exploit?
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There's not enough details about how the process actually achieves S-OFF yet to actually make that assertion - but my belief is that it is probably patchable. The group who wrote the exploit specifically said that they won't release details of the method until its been patched, which leads me to believe that they feel it will be patched eventually.
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.... how has he/she voided their warranty already
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Unlocking the Bootloader technically voids your warrantee but most are under the impression that if it is ever sent in for a warrantee replacement that nobody will even check.
Obtaining S-off actually gives you the power (through various steps) to make sure they never even know you unlocked it.
I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
Why wait? It's not that difficult. I'm a n00b, and it only took me about 15min. and 10 tries with a paperclip. Plus, I haven't experienced any of the problems others have... no problems getting it to recognize the SD card, no boot issues, nada. I was unlocked and running de-bloated GB prior to S-Off.
Give it a shot!
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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I agree. It sounds like almost all of the issues raised by the S-Off process have been ironed out, but the possibility of taking several hours to fix any issues has convinced me to wait to do S-Off. I hope to do it eventually, but to me the only reason I'd do S-Off is to be able to get back to S-On/Locked. I'm not terribly interested in flashing different boot images or changing my radios, so being Unlocked is good enough for now.
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I agree. It sounds like almost all of the issues raised by the S-Off process have been ironed out, but the possibility of taking several hours to fix any issues has convinced me to wait to do S-Off. I hope to do it eventually, but to me the only reason I'd do S-Off is to be able to get back to S-On/Locked. I'm not terribly interested in flashing different boot images or changing my radios, so being Unlocked is good enough for now.
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+1, I really see no hurry to do this plus I also don't have hours to prep or fix things if I screw up. lol. Probably will do so at some point though and Im sure it will be fun.
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It's not necessarily a hardware exploit. They're using a hardware event to get some software loaded into memory when you touch the wires. The question is whether the program that loads the hack when that event occurs -- or any of the other data and code the hack has to manipulate before changing the security bit -- can be replaced by something more secure.
And at least some of these components probably can be patched. There's apparently very little truly "hardcoded" logic in these things.
do it... after all the people that have done it no one has bricked a device... jsut follow the directions
it is well worth it. It took me a about 6 times to get the wire trick to work. timing is everything. But once you get the timing right, it is a breeze. AI'm enjoying the much added freedom. Go For It.
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I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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It may take you +10 hours but you can always boot back to your ROM at any time. (At least I could)
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putney1477 said:
I'm waiting just a bit longer. I need my phone for work and can't be without for long periods of time. Reading on some posts that it has taken people in upwards of 10 + hours to get it right. I just can't go that long without it. Not to mention I'm still learning flashing and modding on HTC. I have read thru every single post about s off, and as of now, just seems like alot of problems. Don't get me wrong, I am ever grateful for the devs and all their hard work, really I am, they have made our phones phenominal!
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It may take you +10 hours but you can always boot back to your ROM at any time. (At least I could)
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Exactly, It's not ten hours straight through, but ten hours combined. When this was first released I tried for 5 hours to get it to work, but only got it to run through twice since the program would only detect my phone after an RUU. This issue was fixed in v0.2.2.
Once my dumb ass actually started using the correct pins I got it on the second try. Use a paper clip, that seems to be the easiest tool for shorting out and is what most people (including myself) have the most success with, just make sure to wrap it in electrical or duct tape.
I'd say there's no rush to do this. The tool is only going to get better and easier, it probably won't get patched for a while (if at all), and it's not really useful yet unless you want to downgrade your radio or change the splashscreen, no ROMs support it yet that I know of. The only really useful thing is nandroid backups that can restore your boot.img

Will there ever be a Bootloader unlock without HTC Dev

Will one come about? I don't exactly want to void my warranty but If there is nobody planning on anything soon, I will.
just wait if u dont want it
meanwhile we are loving our phones
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just wait if u dont want it
meanwhile we are loving our phones
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I do want it although if there is a non-htc bootloader unlock right around the corner, wouldn't it be better to wait a couple days?
UhQ said:
I do want it although if there is a non-htc bootloader unlock right around the corner, wouldn't it be better to wait a couple days?
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if its anything like the 3d it will be quite a bit longer than a few days...
yea i could happen when ever could be tomarrow could be 3 months from now.. hope not!!!! but who kno's.. i my self will not mess with htc unlock.. i didnt when i had my 3d either.. im content with my phone for now.. just sit back and chillax!
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yea i could happen when ever could be tomarrow could be 3 months from now.. hope not!!!! but who kno's.. i my self will not mess with htc unlock.. i didnt when i had my 3d either.. im content with my phone for now.. just sit back and chillax!
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While i jumped in with two feet the day the og evo was released im going to sit back for a bit. This device is awesome completely stock. Im going to sit back and see what develops in the dev section for a while.
Is the bootloader encrypted? If it is you may as well just use htc dev because it will never get unlocked if it is unless someone at htc leaks some keys or something.
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Is the bootloader encrypted? If it is you may as well just use htc dev because it will never get unlocked if it is unless someone at htc leaks some keys or something.
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Wasn't that the case with the 3d, yet just bit longer than a month my phone was s-off.
Swyped from my eVo
I'm assuming it will happen eventually. With so few ROMs available right now, the only reason I see to unlock the bootloader is to install a custom recovery and flash a rooted ROM along with some mods. I'm a huge fan of mods, but I'm going to let development run its course before making any decisions.
I received my 3D in October and didn't void my warranty until April. If I was able to wait then, I'm sure I'll be able to wait now.
Really hoping this comes soon with some s off action.
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If you have Sprint then why are you guys even worrying about unlocking the bootloader in the first place? You would be returning your phone to Sprint and not sending it off to HTC.
Plus unlocking the bootloader (by any means) voids your warranty regardless... if you want custom roms unlock the bootloader, I'm already seeing an increase in battery from it.

To root or not to root,

Well with the new HTCDev unlocker tool. I am not so sure i want to root my phone just yet. From the videos i have watched you have to be connected to the net and have to receive a token during the root process. Could this possibly be a method that can void your warranty without a workaround? Would it be smarter to wait for a Dev community method?
I only ask this because, well i have the rooting/flashing itch. I am still funbling around with my phone and getting to know it. Yes people, i am one of those guys, the one who really misses the 4th menu button. So would it really be worth flashing while I am still getting used to the phone. Don't get me wrong the phone rocks even with 3 buttons, but is it worth rooting right away via the HTC Unlocker?
From what I understand, any root method will void your warranty. I have never had an issue getting a rooted phone replaced at Sprint. I always flashed a stock rom before taking it in.
Any root will void a warranty, HTC just has a way to track it with HTCdev. A community method just makes it easier to get away with..
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Kcarpenter said:
Any root will void a warranty, HTC just has a way to track it with HTCdev. A community method just makes it easier to get away with..
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Thx... appreciate the response, its exactly what was on my mind... Except my missing menu button..
Purchase insurance on your phone and you shouldn't have to worry about your warranty. I had my original Evo replaced after it had an unfortunate collision with a wall and the screen no longer worked. I took it into the Sprint store to try and get it repaired, but they told me they couldn't and to file a claim online. The next day, I had a 3D in my hands. My 4G was rooted with S-OFF, but of course they couldn't tell since the screen didn't work.
I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
How did you install Foxfi? It says the app is not compatible with my 4G LTE and shows the phone greyed out.
Tnman7 said:
I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
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Why would you have to go back and forth? Someone always releases a rooted stock rom within hours of it's release by HTC, all you would do is either flash that or wait for the developer of your rom to update to the new OTA. As for OTA's, if and when we have a root and s-off method it's not only possible but likely that you wouldn't be able to use it if you updated your phone. Within weeks of the s-off on the EVO 3D there was an OTA patching it. I haven't rooted yet but I wouldn't accept any OTA's just in case. I still may return my phone due to data issues.
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I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
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You could still get the update even while rooted.
I'll probably give it 2 weeks to make sure the hardware is okay.
Need to root for some privacy apps.
I can hear Pandora/Facebook/Twitter sucking my contacts, web history, and phone number without my permission as we speak.
I used the HTC unlock method on my 3D and didn't hesitate to do it on my new Evo LTE. It was well worth it.
For what it's worth, I had to bring my 3D in to sprint to have the touch screen replaced when it randomly went bad and they never said anything about my phone having an unlocked bootloader... They don't care.
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mugsaway said:
How did you install Foxfi? It says the app is not compatible with my 4G LTE and shows the phone greyed out.
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You have to go directly to foxfi to get the APK a google search will bring you there. It is not in the market. It works fine on my phone, now I wait for second round LTE then I can get better speeds.
Edit: found this, may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26554223
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My og evo was rooted and I was very flash happy with it. But the last 6 months I had it I actually got sick of flashing (gasp). I think the constant need to re setup my phone just got old. As of now I have no plans of rooting it. I like it the way it is. I've gone "iphoney" and just want it to work lol.
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I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
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Devs here are usually pretty good at baking in the ota's into their roms in a quick manner though.
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