Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
Take05 said:
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.
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Hello everyone. I was looking at the rooting instructions like damnnn. Lots of steps. I remember when i had the og EVO or my vibrant I could root it and download a custom rom just using my phone. It was just put zip on root of SD card, apply zip, use that ROM changer app to download/apply custom ROM. Bam done. Is the 3D ever going to be that or no?
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I didn't mean to say the rooting process is too much, its just not as simple as before.
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I love the steps..Makes me feel like im actually rooting the phone..Thats just me though,I enjoy the process.
I'm not sure exactly what the exploit is that gets s-off so its hard to say if there will ever be a 1 click method or easier way.My guess is someone will make an easier way of doing it in the future.
Yea Rooting the vibrant 3g was very simple I used z4root it only takes 2mins.. One phone that took me the longest to root was Mytouch 4g because there's alot of steps to do.
It's about as close to one click as you can get with out being one click. all you need to do is run revolutionary and flash su. Even the old one clicks you still had to click to download then click to run, thats two clicks right there. Thats not counting the whole pluging your phone in. Personally I was impressed at how easy it was right away.
Maybe one day all you will need to do is put your 3vo under your pillow and the root fairy will come down and do it for you and leave a shiny quarter(not trying to be a prick here just funny)
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It's about as close to one click as you can get with out being one click. all you need to do is run revolutionary and flash su. Even the old one clicks you still had to click to download then click to run, thats two clicks right there. Thats not counting the whole pluging your phone in. Personally I was impressed at how easy it was right away.
Maybe one day all you will need to do is put your 3vo under your pillow and the root fairy will come down and do it for you and leave a shiny quarter(not trying to be a prick here just funny)
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It sounds simple when you say it like that lol. There's the command prompts and the sdk blah blah I'm not computer litterate but I try because I love my phone. LOL I wish there was a root fairy, and free money too? Win.
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I found it obscenely simple... Lol
My nook was a pain my nuts. The G1 was a ***** without the data Sim card, and the my touch 3g was almost as big of a pain. I'd root another Evo 3D in a heart beat. OG Evo was easier, but not by much.
My buddies fascinate is also a bit of a pain with versions of cwm having to match the rom, modem problems, and more.
E3D'ed... Booyah!
Well, i am not trying to be an asshole, but 1. I think we can't really complain about put a little bit of thinking to get what the devs put way more thinking and effort into. 2. It clearly states that it's a test beta release. maybe when it is actually finalized it will be easier to use.
No.. not too much at all.
I rooted a MyTouch Fender ... That was a process and a half. Required a Goldcard, flashing engineering hboot, flashing rom/kernel and then reflashing the retail hboot.
Hassle...
This.
Input serial
Run Revolutionary
Input serial...
Umm.... Oh yeah, that's all.
Are We Not Phones?
We Are D3VO!
Are we not phones?!
3.DeE.V.O.!!
Flonkas said:
It sounds simple when you say it like that lol. There's the command prompts and the sdk blah blah I'm not computer litterate but I try because I love my phone. LOL I wish there was a root fairy, and free money too? Win.
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To be honest with you....As much of a hassle as you think it is, learning how to use ADB and the neccessary commands from the computer is truly in your best interest. There very well may come a time when you need those very commands to recovery your phone from a bad flash or simple mistake. A lot of people use the simple root method, jump in head first and get into some serious trouble without having the neccessary knowledge to fix said problems. Just something to think about.
rooting the evo 3d was beyond easy.
i feel the evo 4g took more to root. i didnt even feel like i was rooting a phone flashed a few zips and i was done..
anyone saying its difficult or was to many steps will be the first to get bootlooped and wonder why.
Too much? I thought is was pretty simple. Click the bat file & let it go. Then type Y or N to install CWM. Then reboot into recovery & flash Su. Pretty damn easy. No need for ADB unless you want to flash Twerp & now they have a PCM files you just place on root of SD & reboot into Bootloader to flash. You must weren't around when the root & nand unlock first came out for the Hero & OG Evo. Now that got a little complicated. This is very simple.
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This thread proves exactly why HTC should NOT release an unlocked bootloader to the masses!
I am by no means trying to flame on ya OP, but if you consider the root utility for the 3D difficult you should start reading some more or not even be rooting at all.
This utility makes the rooting process cake. If this seems difficult you need to read up on ADB etc. This is a lot easier than the original rooting processes for most phones if you go back a few years. Try rooting using all command prompt with 25 steps that you have to do manually.
I hope that this isn't taken the wrong way, but this is the reason that carriers frown upon rooting...Because people get themselves into something that they shouldn't and end up using insurance at an excessive rate because they brick phones.
Sorry for my rant, just wanted to give my .02
Wow...this root process was super easy...took less then 5min for me...
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#Winning# said:
This thread proves exactly why HTC should NOT release an unlocked bootloader to the masses!
I am by no means trying to flame on ya OP, but if you consider the root utility for the 3D difficult you should start reading some more or not even be rooting at all.
This utility makes the rooting process cake. If this seems difficult you need to read up on ADB etc. This is a lot easier than the original rooting processes for most phones if you go back a few years. Try rooting using all command prompt with 25 steps that you have to do manually.
I hope that this isn't taken the wrong way, but this is the reason that carriers frown upon rooting...Because people get themselves into something that they shouldn't and end up using insurance at an excessive rate because they brick phones.
Sorry for my rant, just wanted to give my .02
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No worries. I think I have been spoiled with super easy one click root methods so i never had to learn adb or any of that. Just remember not everyone on xda are mega proficient with computers, guess I got some researching to do.
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klbjr;16233680 You must weren't around when the root & nand unlock first came out for the Hero & OG Evo. Now that got a little complicated. This is very simple.
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Those were a pain sometimes. It kept the riff raff out though. You had to be a pretty brave individual to go through that process, I think my brain exploded 3 times before I successfully rooted my hero.
The worst was I bought a g1 off ebay about a year ago, It was completely up to date and the bastard left his security lock on! We have no tmobile service here so I had to do all kinds of crazy ADB commands just to get past the gmail sign in because of having no sim card(back then you couldn't turn on wifi until you got past that point). Plus the whole rooting it too. What I'll do just to have buttons for my emulators.
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Agreed. I didn't even have to use adb to get twrp..just a flash in recovery. Painless. I can't see it needing to be any easier. I am impressed with how well executed Revolutionary is.
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i thought it was very simple compared to the other 5 phones i have done, its funny usually when we first get s-off its a pretty hard process for noobs, but congrats to unrevoked and alpharev for completing this one, and making a nice zip to do it
For the OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196131
Haven't tried it myself but here's a method without using ADB.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/htcs-bootloader-unlock-process-goes-live-sensation-prepares-fo/
Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
saltorio said:
Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
saltorio said:
Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
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Yeah, but is this going to void your warranty by the carrier? I have Sprint's TEP, so I don't think I really need to worry about it.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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HTC did mention that if you unlock your bootloader your warranty will be voided.
I sure hope nobody is considering using HTC's unlock method... Revolutionary works perfect and is totally reverable and untrackable.
I might have to use it if revo doesn't end up supporting my Evo 3D. Right now Revolutionary unlocks every EVO 3D except Rogers Canada phones which have HBOOT 1.49.0008.
I'm hoping Revo does end up supporting ours as I don't want to void warranty if I don't have to!
Yes. Lose your warranty. Lets all do it.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
carica42 said:
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
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The difference between HTC and Revo is that with Revo you can always lock back up and no one will be the wiser (unless you seriously screwed something up in the software). With HTC, you register with them beforehand that you plan to unlock, and then you regsiter with them again when the unlock is performed. There's no denying it, no fooling them. And you can be assured they'll be sharing that info with the carriers.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
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It's a matter of principle.
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is it just me or does the so-called "unlocking" method/instructions sounds almost similar to revolutionary's method/procedure??? ex... generating keys... having sdk downloaded for fastboot commands/htc drivers??? just sayin...
Ok the warranty thing says may cancel all or parts which I'm sure if it is a true hw problem it will be fine and your warranty will be ok unless you oc it and causes it to mess up etc also isn't the nexus line that way if u unlock it revokes it
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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Finally someone w brains lol
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However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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That's the reason I won't use it. I'm fine with HTC's warranty policy. It makes sense from their standpoint.
I'd simply rather avoid it altogether by not registering myself as having unlocked my bootloader.
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
Saw this today,
http://www.androidauthority.com/how...android-2-3-4-gingerbread-in-one-click-36933/
Bottom of article states you can install custom ROM's
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at the bottom of the page it sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346729
which is temp root, who ever read that prbly didnt know the difference lol
ah, thank you.
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Marine6680 said:
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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Their twitter conversations have a youtube video showing root, have not watched it yet.
The title says Resound gets permanent root.
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The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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If they can release a perm root solution that is safe with S-On, I'll take it. That's all I want right now, and I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy with it for now as well.
Good luck.
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jbh00jh said:
The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
Would it be greedy of me to ask for a $5 donation from 500 people?
I really want this set of rims for Christmas.
Am I asking for too much?
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He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
Speaking of money...anyone willing to organize and spearhead donations to the developer or group that achieves s-off?
I know this was done on other phones where people pledged $x amount of money.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't be asking anyone for a dime period let alone prior to providing a full disclosure of the methods used to obtain root status.
Just like everyone else....I'll believe it when I see it.
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen.
I'll pitch in a few bucks for that... I'll throw a few more for S=Off.
First time since the G1 that I had a device before root was achieved. I wanted to take advantage of the penny sale at Verizon is why I picked it up now. I would have gotten a galaxy s 2 had Verizon offered one. Oh well, every HTC so far has been broken eventually. I hope we don't have to wait too long though.
There was already a donation thread started somewhere I believe. But Evil was the only verbal dev working on root/s-off and said he didn't want money.
Marine6680 said:
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen..
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This is dangerous. If something happens to /system you're screwed because without recovery it can't be..... well recovered.
There is already a temp root method that you can use to kill the bloat. Outside of that root doesn't really provide you with any other abilities except maybe to steal wifi tethering without subscribing.
Without s off you wont be able to overclock, flash custom Roms or alternate radios....so why do people think they need to have perm root without s-off?
There are plenty other things you can do with Root without S-Off.
THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
con247 said:
I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
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Yeah no kidding. I doubt Verizon would let it push thru too. Ahh well. We'll just have to wait for it the old fashion way
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Hey guys, just got my EVO today and I have a few questions.. to use this tool, must I use the root method in development which goes through HTCdev.com? If so, does this blacklist my phone at HTC automatically? If that is the case, whats the purpose of the tool? Also, if I do this and return my phone within 14 days will I be unable to return it because I went through the procedure?
I really want to try some custom ROMS, I love the phone stock but the inability for the browsers to keep pages loaded when you multitask is just killing me. This is my one and only complaint about this phone.
You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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sleevester said:
You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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Voiding ur HTC warrenty doesnt affect your sprint warrenty. There's been people swapping in there phones fully rooted before with sprint
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You don't need to be HTC Dev unlocked, run this first and then run LazyPanda and you should be fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Make sure you read through the entire s-off thread. I am not going to risk soft bricking my phone until they release a fix for why some people are getting stuck at a black screen in download mode. I assume their original script will be updated to prevent that from occurring in the future.
Just make sure you read up on it and accept the risk it comes with. People install drivers by all sorts of different methods (HTC Sync, through device manager, through a stand alone installer...etc) and I am guessing the way some people installed drivers is why the issues are happening since a couple different drivers need to be installed depending on which mode your phone is in and I wouldn't be surprised if the correct drivers don;t get installed if you use certain methods but I'm probably wrong.
The only reason I want s-off is because we can get rid of that red text now on boot up but I don't want to deal with unbricking if I am one of the unlucky people.
Hey all!
I want to send my phone back to HTC for some warranty work (warranty expires within the week so I need to get this done asap). I'm having some call quality issues as well as network issues (limited 4G when my wife's LTEvo is better). Anyway, I'm trying to get it back to stock and unrooted.
I found videos by QBKing77. From his videos, it looks like I'm supposed to lock the bootloader and then unroot the phone. When he shows the bootloader screen, his shows tampered and unlocked. The lock bootloader video is then supposed to make it say relocked and tampered and then the unroot will take away the tampered notice. The thing is, I don't see those on mine. I know my phone is rooted, is it possible I didn't unlock the bootloader? If so, is there a way for me to check?
Basically, I'm looking for the best way for me to relock my phone and have it good enough that nothing looks like I'm violating any warranty. I've seen things about RUUs, but there are different versions it seems. I'm just not sure where to begin or what I need for my phone. I did not unroot via HTC's website or anything like that. But I did it all about a year ago, so I'm not exactly sure what I did.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Yes, if you use the tool it will revert your phone to S-on.
As far as whether or not Sprint or HTC cares is almost anybody's guess. I've seen people say they don't care, and others say that they do. Just to be safe go back completely stock. You can always root it again once you get it back
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Yes it will take the s-off flag to s-on, you will be back to stock, updated to 3.16, after that if it gets fixed/repaired you should be able to get s-off with moonshine / facepalm / dirty racun whichever it's easier for you...
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Thank you both very much! This sounds like exactly what I was looking for. I'll give it a shot and see if I'm still having the issues I'm having. If I am, I'll send it back. We send my wife's phone back to HTC once (never rooted) and they were pretty easy to work with. Just cost us about $8 in shipping or something like that.
I am honest with Sprint employees about my phone being rooted whenever I have an issue. They never seem to mind, they just can't always be as certain if the problem is their problem or something from me messing with it...and I understand that. I usually test with my wife's phone and see if I have the same problem or not. Anyway, for what it's worth, Sprint has always been good to me as far as my phone being rooted, but I wasn't asking for warranty work at those times.