http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/htcs-bootloader-unlock-process-goes-live-sensation-prepares-fo/
Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
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Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
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Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
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Yeah, but is this going to void your warranty by the carrier? I have Sprint's TEP, so I don't think I really need to worry about it.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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HTC did mention that if you unlock your bootloader your warranty will be voided.
I sure hope nobody is considering using HTC's unlock method... Revolutionary works perfect and is totally reverable and untrackable.
I might have to use it if revo doesn't end up supporting my Evo 3D. Right now Revolutionary unlocks every EVO 3D except Rogers Canada phones which have HBOOT 1.49.0008.
I'm hoping Revo does end up supporting ours as I don't want to void warranty if I don't have to!
Yes. Lose your warranty. Lets all do it.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
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Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
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The difference between HTC and Revo is that with Revo you can always lock back up and no one will be the wiser (unless you seriously screwed something up in the software). With HTC, you register with them beforehand that you plan to unlock, and then you regsiter with them again when the unlock is performed. There's no denying it, no fooling them. And you can be assured they'll be sharing that info with the carriers.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
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It's a matter of principle.
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is it just me or does the so-called "unlocking" method/instructions sounds almost similar to revolutionary's method/procedure??? ex... generating keys... having sdk downloaded for fastboot commands/htc drivers??? just sayin...
Ok the warranty thing says may cancel all or parts which I'm sure if it is a true hw problem it will be fine and your warranty will be ok unless you oc it and causes it to mess up etc also isn't the nexus line that way if u unlock it revokes it
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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cordell12 said:
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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That's the reason I won't use it. I'm fine with HTC's warranty policy. It makes sense from their standpoint.
I'd simply rather avoid it altogether by not registering myself as having unlocked my bootloader.
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Hello, I just got an EVO 3D today and was wondering if there was a possible way to root with HBOOT 1.50?? My Software Version is 2.08.651.2
I tried using this method, but it said HBOOT 1.50 is not supported.
Does anyone know how I can root?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
did mines last night
I actually want to root without voiding warranty. Does anyone know how much longer it will take to get root working on HBOOT 1.50 without having to void your warranty?
Thanks
It's not about whether or not you void your warranty. It's about whether HTC has the explicit knowledge that you've done so.
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in other words... if you root, u will void your warranty no matter what.
Yes, I think thats a correct assumption.
turboed dragon said:
in other words... if you root, u will void your warranty no matter what.
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How does Sprint insurance work with this?
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I think everyone is too caught up in the "will this void my warranty". The reality is: No matter the method you use, if it can be proven that YOU were at fault with borking your phone then they will probably tell you that you aren't covered and make you pay for the fix. This is the understanding that everyone who comes to XDA or any of the similar sites should have prior to doing anything to your phone.
Nobody has explicitly said that HTC will void a warranty on a phone unlocked with HTC's Unlock Tool. There is a pretty good chance that using the Revolutionary method will void it if they can prove it. You need to get really good at reversing your tracks and getting your phone back to square one. Follow all directions, make sure you know what you are flashing before you do.
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How does Sprint insurance work with this?
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Yeah, rooting your phone automatically voids your warranty. I just received my Evo last week and didn't get Sprint's insurance, but got radioshack's. Usually, the phone companies does not cover rooted phones.
I really doubt that Sprint's insurance cares one way or the other. A tech at a store may refuse to work on it if you don't have the stock rom on it and it's a software problem (which is valid as they can't fix problems some custom roms have). If you get water damage, screen cracks, or you lose it, who cares if it was rooted. You can always report it lost and they will never know one way or the other. They've had no problems working on unlocked windows mobile phones in the past or replacing them through asurion in my experience.
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Nobody has explicitly said that HTC will void a warranty on a phone unlocked with HTC's Unlock Tool. There is a pretty good chance that using the Revolutionary method will void it if they can prove it. You need to get really good at reversing your tracks and getting your phone back to square one. Follow all directions, make sure you know what you are flashing before you do.
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actually, htc does say you'll void your warranty if you use their unlock tool. there's a warning about it before you try their method.
btw, if you want to flash custom kernels for the custom roms, you need to boot into recovery (type "fasboot boot recovery.img" <recovery.img> is the name of whatever your recovery image is) through bootloader. i didn't know that and i was pulling my hair out flashing roms that wouldn't boot properly because i used rom manager and other methods to reboot into recovery.
this is for hboot 1.50
you need the kernels that go with the roms or your phone won't boot the roms properly.
You do know they too are aware of our secret public forum.
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we all know if you use any rooting method your warranty is void and like someone said by easily reverting back to factory stock this can be concealed. I think the concern is if people with hboot 1.50 use the HTCDEV unlock method and root their phone, will that place a marker or be put in some kind of database for sprint techs to see thus ruining chances of the phone being taken care of by them? I know I read that locking the phone backup shows so no matter what the techs will know.
When i bought my evo 3d I could choose between it or the samsung galaxy s ii, I chose the evo 3d because it looked like it was going to have the best dev support, but then my phone broke and i had to get a replacement that came with 1.50. now i have to choose between voiding my warranty or staying stock. I've been waiting for months but were still screwed. Did we choose a phone that was truly a gimmick and all the devs have moved on? Or did HTC win and develop an un-hackable hboot with 1.50?
Most devs haven't wasted time with it recently because ICS and other things like CIQ
I have 2 dead pixels and decided not to test my luck with a refurbished device..
Most people that have 1.5hboot took the HTC method.. and seem pretty happy. But there are a few that feel the warranty void is to big of a risk...
If you waited this long is wait for ICS OTA as it most likley will come with a new hboot that someone will most likley crack (look at what happened with the EVO 4G GB update and how long it took to crack)
My best advice is if you are a flash fiend do the HTC method...
If your the few dozen that don't want to "void" your warranty then write HTC or some respected devs.... I seen there was a large bounty for a s-off 1.5 awhile ago... Go stir up that thread rather than making a new one...
Good luck!
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When i bought my evo 3d I could choose between it or the samsung galaxy s ii, I chose the evo 3d because it looked like it was going to have the best dev support, but then my phone broke and i had to get a replacement that came with 1.50. now i have to choose between voiding my warranty or staying stock. I've been waiting for months but were still screwed. Did we choose a phone that was truly a gimmick and all the devs have moved on? Or did HTC win and develop an un-hackable hboot with 1.50?
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Really???
Have you ever been to the Dev section??? There is more than enough action going on as far as development. The EVO 3D does have the best Dev's, but your issue is not the phone. You issue is you have 1.50. There are other alternatives you have to flash and get custom mods but you need to do the research. But don't be mistaken, the party is still jumping in the development section. Hell ICS is just in its alpha stage but its running just like a RC.
This is my 3rd evo. 1st had hboot 1.4 2nd had 1.5 and when it stopped charging they replaced it free. (I have the 8$ insurance plan) I dont see why people are so worried about voiding their warranty..?
I don't get it either. It only matters if your returning it for a software problem.
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Easy way to get replacement after void warranty + software problem....
Remove battery....
Place in microwave for 3-5 seconds (just enough to zap the motherboard,not melt ****)
Put battery back in.. make sure it won't respond to any key combo.
Take it to sprint and say you pulled it off the charger and this is how it ended up...
Poof a phone will either be handed to you... Or one will be sent in the mail...
(this has been working for people for ALL carriers and devices since g1)
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Amen to that
Bear gri11z said:
Easy way to get replacement after void warranty + software problem....
Remove battery....
Place in microwave for 3-5 seconds (just enough to zap the motherboard,not melt ****)
Put battery back in.. make sure it won't respond to any key combo.
Take it to sprint and say you pulled it off the charger and this is how it ended up...
Poof a phone will either be handed to you... Or one will be sent in the mail...
(this has been working for people for ALL carriers and devices since g1)
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maek_it_happen said:
Amen to that
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Bear gri11z said:
Easy way to get replacement after void warranty + software problem....
Remove battery....
Place in microwave for 3-5 seconds (just enough to zap the motherboard,not melt ****)
Put battery back in.. make sure it won't respond to any key combo.
Take it to sprint and say you pulled it off the charger and this is how it ended up...
Poof a phone will either be handed to you... Or one will be sent in the mail...
(this has been working for people for ALL carriers and devices since g1)
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So let me get this straight. You mess up the phone and then engage in insurance fraud...and then promote it as well?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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really? i thought it voided the hardware warranty because once you mod it you can change the factory settings that are setup as failsafes... but if its just for software.. thats what xda is for. i do have a few dying pixles though so maybe i should go get it replaced then open up the new one....
I havent applied any updates or anything since i got the phone because i didnt want to start the waiting process over, but thats a good point, once ics gets released it will probably start a new wave of development bound on cracking the new hboot.
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really? i thought it voided the hardware warranty because once you mod it you can change the factory settings that are setup as failsafes
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You are about to start the process of unlocking your device. Unlocking your device allows you to install custom Operating Systems (“OS”) onto your device. Custom OS’s are not tested as thoroughly as your original OS, and unlocking your device may void all or parts of your warranty. HTC disclaims any and all liability for proper functioning of your device after the bootloader has been unlocked and for data lost in the unlocking process.(Meaning they are unable to help you trouble shoot your phone once you place a rom on it.) To prevent unauthorized access to your data, unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings.
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No where does it say your warranty WILL be 100% void. In my opinion this means
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- If you overclock your phone and your phone overheats to the point of processor damage
- Undervolting or overvolting causing damage
- Flashing an incompatible radio file causing brick
- Flashing a GSM ROM on your phone causing brick
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Warranty still intact after using HTC UNLOCK method.
- Charging port errors (shorts, detaching, etc)
- Dead Pixels in screen
- Severe light leakage
Also I highly advise against doing the microwave method because that is fraud and you'll be up the creek when they ask you for the charger that resulted in the "severe electrical damage" to your device. Just be up front with the techs and tell them you used HTC DEV but you're having hardware issues (assuming you're actually having hardware issues.) This is my view on HTC's stance on the warranty issue, so take it as that - my personal opinion.
I'm still new to this regarding s-off and rooting but I have hboot 1.5 and used the HTC bootloader unlock method and I've had no trouble flashing roms. I don't see what the big deal for s-off is when we are still able to flash kernels and ROMS.
Hey guys, just got my EVO today and I have a few questions.. to use this tool, must I use the root method in development which goes through HTCdev.com? If so, does this blacklist my phone at HTC automatically? If that is the case, whats the purpose of the tool? Also, if I do this and return my phone within 14 days will I be unable to return it because I went through the procedure?
I really want to try some custom ROMS, I love the phone stock but the inability for the browsers to keep pages loaded when you multitask is just killing me. This is my one and only complaint about this phone.
You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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Voiding ur HTC warrenty doesnt affect your sprint warrenty. There's been people swapping in there phones fully rooted before with sprint
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You don't need to be HTC Dev unlocked, run this first and then run LazyPanda and you should be fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Make sure you read through the entire s-off thread. I am not going to risk soft bricking my phone until they release a fix for why some people are getting stuck at a black screen in download mode. I assume their original script will be updated to prevent that from occurring in the future.
Just make sure you read up on it and accept the risk it comes with. People install drivers by all sorts of different methods (HTC Sync, through device manager, through a stand alone installer...etc) and I am guessing the way some people installed drivers is why the issues are happening since a couple different drivers need to be installed depending on which mode your phone is in and I wouldn't be surprised if the correct drivers don;t get installed if you use certain methods but I'm probably wrong.
The only reason I want s-off is because we can get rid of that red text now on boot up but I don't want to deal with unbricking if I am one of the unlucky people.
Please help read!!
So my HTC amaze died on me about 2 days ago I was listening to my music in my car connected through Bluetooth then a cop passed by and everything shut off haha coincidence haha anyway went home had no service like absolutely nothing thought nothing of it and went to sleep, next morning still nothing and ever since now its dead. Called HTC they said most likely its T-Mobile not the phone but they sent me a replacement back cover (which is cool) because the antennas are on the back anyway I know this isn't the problem because even without the back cover you can still get signal. So I took phone to T-Mobile put new sim tested and nothing so now I know its the phone not T-Mobile. Anyway my question is how can I prepare to send back to T-Mobile I have relocked phone put stock recovery and put leaked ics Rom. So is that bad that it sais relocked and bad if I'm using leaked ics rom I know its voids warrenty when it sais relocked but my software and phone everything works perfect its just the signal so will they fix it? And when I send in could I send phone with a eBay bought battery not HTC one so they could send me a new battery or should I send only HTC battery, phone, and back cover. And also is there any fix for this so I don't have to send in? Please help thanks
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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fcpelayo said:
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
cast2brian said:
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Just trying to help you get that under your hat, no offense meant.
Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid
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Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid <br />
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I've never heard of a warranty exchange get denied for this phone... even rooted. Most issues with this device are hw issues... u will be fine
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aw glacierguy thanks for the positive attitude! hope everything goes good for my phone!
So update for everyone i called HTC back and told them to cancel my back cover replacement for the Amaze because i know this is not the reason why i have no bars! because without that cover i still had bars and i know the amaze has some more antennas inside the device. Anyway i told them that i want to send the phone in for repairs so now everything set up and just have to send the phone on its way :crying: hope its a hardware issue and they can fix it. In the mean time got kinda intresting email from HTC saying
"After we receive the device, we will diagnose it and if there are any damages that fall outside of the limited warranty, we will contact you with a quotation to repair. If you choose not to repair, a service fee of up to $35 dollars will be charged and the device will be returned unrepaired."
Yes kinda scared me but hope i don't have to pay anything for this repair so everyone wish me luck and ill let you guys know how everything goes.
Sucks im probably not gonna have my phone for about a month
Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
Yes what darknightmare said you could get token but maybe last second decided not to do it haha anywho sending it saying relocked hope they fix hardware issue if not maybe gotta spend money?
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
Ya for sure lets see what htc sais shipped out today through ups htc should get it thursday hope ups loses or breaks my packagae have 300 dollar insurance ha but yep anyone know of any prices for this fix?
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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100% on what Dark Nightmare said, i followed the procedure on the forums on how to completely restore to stock. i was s-off etc.. after it was all said and done, my phone was locked and ready to rock. I sent it back after my replacement arrived and all was good.
Just read through General, Q&A and Dev section, Trust me the answer is there. It's ALWAYS there. I used the GB juopunutbear S-off tool instead of the ICS tool cause i am retarded and didn't take my time and got stuck because of it. I did 2-3 minutes of using the search button and i was fixed in a second!
First of all! Yes Dark Nightmare is correct he knows his stuff you can put it back to locked anywho i would first like to say thank you for all the replys to this post. First post and didnt think my question would be answered but it was and its a great community we got here, i may be new member, but ive always been on xda reading up and hacking all my phones i have went from metro pcs huawei ascend, tmobile my touch 4g and now htc amaze all rooted and custom roms also have done droid and sidekick 4g. The thing is i do have experience and learned alot. Main thing is its an honor to have Dark nightmare and glacierguy here i feel like you guys are famous! ha have seen you guys in different sections and you guys know your stuff so thanks!
p.s everyone that posted i hit thanks
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That's why when dknmare comes in I don't argue with him instead I take it and learn.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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I think my post may not have been clear. Of course you can lock the bootloader; that is how one installs the original ROM. But I was under the impression that it then says ”relocked” if you have previously unlocked the device. That warning from HTC have me a lot of pause when I read it! But I think what I read said ”may” void your warranty. But I was reading fast...
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I just got my new EVO and it already loaded the new update. I was wondering if i can root it now? if not what are my options?
You'll need to use HTC's unlock with 1.22.651.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
xHausx said:
You'll need to use HTC's unlock with 1.22.651.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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where do i find the unlock? Sorry i am fairly new at this.
You'll probably get flamed for not searching, as this is a common question. But anyway, go to htcdev.com and on the right side where it says choose device, look for 'other devices' or so me things similar. Also read a lot about rooting, everything you need is in the dev section. If you get stuck let us know
"We're coming from a pure power source"
What others have said. Just wanted to add in that your warranty will be void if you unlock with htcdev
To some it matters, to others it does not.
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champ052005 said:
What others have said. Just wanted to add in that your warranty will be void if you unlock with htcdev
To some it matters, to others it does not.
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This only voids your HTC warranty. When was the last time anyone has used that?
It does NOT prevent you from getting repairs through sprint or insurance
HTC's warranty is lame anyway. You have to send your phone to them and it could be gone for a month.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
metalfan78 said:
HTC's warranty is lame anyway. You have to send your phone to them and it could be gone for a month.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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This is funny because my already htcdev rooted, and reverted back evo is now in Texas for my camera repair. No mention
yet that I have voided my warranty, we'll see what happens. They better not say rooting fuk'd my camera, it went out gradually.
NOW FIX MY F"N PHONE!!
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This is funny because my already htcdev rooted, and reverted back evo is now in Texas for my camera repair. No mention
yet that I have voided my warranty, we'll see what happens. They better not say rooting fuk'd my camera, it went out gradually.
NOW FIX MY F"N PHONE!!
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The disclaimer said that it may void parts of the warranty, so I'm hoping they'll still fix hardware issues like that. Unless they want to start making claims about rooting breaking things at a hardware level.
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where do i find the unlock? Sorry i am fairly new at this.
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Not sure if you have rooted a phone before, but i just rooted my phone for the first time last weekend this way and it's really easy. Best of luck but i don't think you should have any issues figuring it out though.
This is the way i did it though. Having the written instructions and the video really helped. http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-root/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-lte-unlock-bootloadertwrp-recovery/
S-off
If you root your phone on 122.651.3, it must be done through htcdev and you still could file an insurance claim with sprint?
Is there a way to S-off the phone...I will not touch until I can do both!
So, my predicament is a little different. Prior to the OTA update (not sure what the OS version was at that time) I used the one click script root method to root my phone, it worked perfectly. With root access, I installed GooManager and installed TWRP recovery. After that I used the Panda S-Off method to get to s-off. With all three pieces in place, I never flashed a custom ROM (primarily becasue they are all Sense based ROMs and I am looking for a way to fix the multitasking issue) because I realized that I didn't clear out my Google Wallet settings prior to rooting my phone. After reading a few threads on the NFC sensitivity I decided to RUU my phone back to stock to try to recover my NFC/Google Wallet functionality. After RUUing my phone, I was surprised to see that the bootloader was still reporting s-off, but recover was back to stock and I had no root access. I was able to recover NFC and get GW working again. At this point the OTA came out, so I decided to take it. Now I am on the latest OS version 1.22.651.3 and there is no root method available except the HTC unlock. I'm just wondering if there are any "unique" options for me since I have s-off, but don't have root?
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This only voids your HTC warranty. When was the last time anyone has used that?
It does NOT prevent you from getting repairs through sprint or insurance
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Really? I don't know why but I was under the impression that if you were HTCDev unlocked that it would invalidate any repairs or replacements through Sprint as well. I figured they had an agreement to communicate this to one another. Have you had personal experience that can validate this?
[edit] I suppose you would just relock the bootloader and then unroot and Sprint would have no idea you ever did anything? Is this correct?
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Really? yes I don't know why but I was under the impression that if you were HTCDev unlocked that it would invalidate any repairs or replacements through Sprint as well no. I figured they had an agreement to communicate this to one anothernope. Have you had personal experience that can validate this?taken rooted phones in before
[edit] I suppose you would just relock the bootloader and then unroot and Sprint would have no idea you ever did anything? Is this correct?
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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If you root your phone on 122.651.3, it must be done through htcdev and you still could file an insurance claim with sprint?
Is there a way to S-off the phone...I will not touch until I can do both!
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Yes, you can can unlock via HTc dev and still get an insurance claim.
No you cannot get S-OFF (although the past S-OFF method worked even if you were already unlocked, so it may not even matter)
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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Yes, you can can unlock via HTc dev and still get an insurance claim.
No you cannot get S-OFF (although the past S-OFF method worked even if you were already unlocked, so it may not even matter)
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So the moral of the story is if my phone is completely stock and I want to eventually fully root it either s-off I need to ignore the 1.22.651.3 update?
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Curb71 said:
So the moral of the story is if my phone is completely stock and I want to eventually fully root it either s-off I need to ignore the 1.22.651.3 update?
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Theres no reason to wait. S-OFF wont wipe your data or anything like that. Do it while you still can. You can S-OFF the device and run the bootloader customizer so it shows S-ON and locked.
Sprint will never know you rooted
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Theres no reason to wait. S-OFF wont wipe your data or anything like that. Do it while you still can. You can S-OFF the device and run the bootloader customizer so it shows S-ON and locked.
Sprint will never know you rooted
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the last time I rooted a phone was when the evo 3d dropped. so everything since then is over my head. since Im still on 651.1 I'm trying to figure out what steps I need to follow and what different options/ways of rooting there are. What's the best way? I see this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 and the regaw and the lazy panda and I think a few more. I just want the phone fully rooted like my evo and evo 3d were. but I'm reading about google wallet, rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, custom recovery, I thought this was all done in a step or two before...
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the last time I rooted a phone was when the evo 3d dropped. so everything since then is over my head. since Im still on 651.1 I'm trying to figure out what steps I need to follow and what different options/ways of rooting there are. What's the best way? I see this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577 and the regaw and the lazy panda and I think a few more. I just want the phone fully rooted like my evo and evo 3d were. but I'm reading about google wallet, rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, custom recovery, I thought this was all done in a step or two before...
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It is pretty much 2 steps
Use this first (STEP 1):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then lazypanda (STEP 2).
Everythings automated. When you get S-OFF you can flash a custom ROM, or leave the one you currently have. Just remember to never take an OTA
I'd suggest running the bootloader customizer too once S-OFF has been achieved. Once again, all automated
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Sprint does NOT care if you are rooted. They will still repair the device if it is not rooting that directly caused the issue. Its a company wide policy.
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Appreciate the reply. It's been years since I was a Sprint customer, last phone I had with them until now was a Blackberry Curve 8330, so their policies with various Android stuff is still new to me but I'm glad to hear it's not a big deal. I think I may actually htc unlock this weekend then and finally give some custom roms a test run.
lordelin said:
I just got my new EVO and it already loaded the new update. I was wondering if i can root it now? if not what are my options?
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Use the RegawMOD root, its automated and easy and he updated it to the 1.22....3 version, only problem I had was installing the root.zip in TWRP at the end of the install, there are real good instruction on pages 81-83 of that forum to help if you cant locate the .zip file. Worked great for me and am rooted, no s-off though will have to wait till there is a reliable exploit, the lazy panda method is too risky for me right now.