[Q] Lazypanda S-OFF question - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Hey guys, just got my EVO today and I have a few questions.. to use this tool, must I use the root method in development which goes through HTCdev.com? If so, does this blacklist my phone at HTC automatically? If that is the case, whats the purpose of the tool? Also, if I do this and return my phone within 14 days will I be unable to return it because I went through the procedure?
I really want to try some custom ROMS, I love the phone stock but the inability for the browsers to keep pages loaded when you multitask is just killing me. This is my one and only complaint about this phone.

You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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sleevester said:
You don't have to run the htcdev unlock to run lazy panda. Without knowing exactly how this exploit works, its hard to say whether HTC knows you've unlocked your bootloader with this. I'd guess no, but again, I'm not sure exactly how this works. I'm sure some of the smarter people around here could write you a book though.
I've read a few stories of people swapping HTC unlocked Evos through Sprint stores though, so I don't know if I'd worry too much about the voided warranty. I know I haven't.
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Voiding ur HTC warrenty doesnt affect your sprint warrenty. There's been people swapping in there phones fully rooted before with sprint
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You don't need to be HTC Dev unlocked, run this first and then run LazyPanda and you should be fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577

Make sure you read through the entire s-off thread. I am not going to risk soft bricking my phone until they release a fix for why some people are getting stuck at a black screen in download mode. I assume their original script will be updated to prevent that from occurring in the future.
Just make sure you read up on it and accept the risk it comes with. People install drivers by all sorts of different methods (HTC Sync, through device manager, through a stand alone installer...etc) and I am guessing the way some people installed drivers is why the issues are happening since a couple different drivers need to be installed depending on which mode your phone is in and I wouldn't be surprised if the correct drivers don;t get installed if you use certain methods but I'm probably wrong.
The only reason I want s-off is because we can get rid of that red text now on boot up but I don't want to deal with unbricking if I am one of the unlucky people.

Related

Bootloader unlocking is live!! (But only for Global SIM-Unlocked Sensation)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/htcs-bootloader-unlock-process-goes-live-sensation-prepares-fo/
Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
saltorio said:
Too bad you're going to have to register your device with HTC in order to use it. That way they can track that your device is rooted and deny your servicing.
I'll stick with Revolutionary when it can actually handle my Rogers device.
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Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
saltorio said:
Not sure about that. Once they know your unlocked the bootloader, I think they can deny your warranty (may even be something you have to agree to as part of the process).
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Yeah, but is this going to void your warranty by the carrier? I have Sprint's TEP, so I don't think I really need to worry about it.
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, I'm fine with how the root is now. But, they won't necessarily say your phone is rooted, just that you had the bootloader unlocked. If you can restore it to stock, they really can't do much to accuse.
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HTC did mention that if you unlock your bootloader your warranty will be voided.
I sure hope nobody is considering using HTC's unlock method... Revolutionary works perfect and is totally reverable and untrackable.
I might have to use it if revo doesn't end up supporting my Evo 3D. Right now Revolutionary unlocks every EVO 3D except Rogers Canada phones which have HBOOT 1.49.0008.
I'm hoping Revo does end up supporting ours as I don't want to void warranty if I don't have to!
Yes. Lose your warranty. Lets all do it.
From my MIUI'd Evo3D
I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
carica42 said:
Warranty is voided if you use HTC or revolution. I like the xda developers and always contribute to the things they work on, but I am going to use the best unlocking method right now it is revolution . I'll use HTC when it comes out because I like to see what HTC has to offer, they have been good so far.
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The difference between HTC and Revo is that with Revo you can always lock back up and no one will be the wiser (unless you seriously screwed something up in the software). With HTC, you register with them beforehand that you plan to unlock, and then you regsiter with them again when the unlock is performed. There's no denying it, no fooling them. And you can be assured they'll be sharing that info with the carriers.
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I wonder how many people who spammed HTC's facebook wall with complaints about the 3D being locked/how long it was taking them to unlock it aren't even going to use their tool.
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It's a matter of principle.
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is it just me or does the so-called "unlocking" method/instructions sounds almost similar to revolutionary's method/procedure??? ex... generating keys... having sdk downloaded for fastboot commands/htc drivers??? just sayin...
Ok the warranty thing says may cancel all or parts which I'm sure if it is a true hw problem it will be fine and your warranty will be ok unless you oc it and causes it to mess up etc also isn't the nexus line that way if u unlock it revokes it
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Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
cordell12 said:
Why is everyone so wound up over HTC's warranty policy on the unlocking of the bootloader? You all know what you are getting into when you mod your phones. If you are a dumb ass and use a OC app and set it for 1.8 min & 1.8 max and jack your CPU up its YOUR fault, not HTC's. If your LCD starts to pull away from the phone then HTC will be responsible, surely they wont deny your warranty for issues like these because you unlocked your phone.
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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Finally someone w brains lol
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cordell12 said:
However I CAN see sprint using this as a way of NOT replacing phones under warranty. That is what will be the worst part of HTC's unlock tool!
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That's the reason I won't use it. I'm fine with HTC's warranty policy. It makes sense from their standpoint.
I'd simply rather avoid it altogether by not registering myself as having unlocked my bootloader.

Rooting HBOOT 1.50

Hello, I just got an EVO 3D today and was wondering if there was a possible way to root with HBOOT 1.50?? My Software Version is 2.08.651.2
I tried using this method, but it said HBOOT 1.50 is not supported.
Does anyone know how I can root?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
did mines last night
I actually want to root without voiding warranty. Does anyone know how much longer it will take to get root working on HBOOT 1.50 without having to void your warranty?
Thanks
It's not about whether or not you void your warranty. It's about whether HTC has the explicit knowledge that you've done so.
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in other words... if you root, u will void your warranty no matter what.
Yes, I think thats a correct assumption.
turboed dragon said:
in other words... if you root, u will void your warranty no matter what.
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How does Sprint insurance work with this?
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I think everyone is too caught up in the "will this void my warranty". The reality is: No matter the method you use, if it can be proven that YOU were at fault with borking your phone then they will probably tell you that you aren't covered and make you pay for the fix. This is the understanding that everyone who comes to XDA or any of the similar sites should have prior to doing anything to your phone.
Nobody has explicitly said that HTC will void a warranty on a phone unlocked with HTC's Unlock Tool. There is a pretty good chance that using the Revolutionary method will void it if they can prove it. You need to get really good at reversing your tracks and getting your phone back to square one. Follow all directions, make sure you know what you are flashing before you do.
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How does Sprint insurance work with this?
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Yeah, rooting your phone automatically voids your warranty. I just received my Evo last week and didn't get Sprint's insurance, but got radioshack's. Usually, the phone companies does not cover rooted phones.
I really doubt that Sprint's insurance cares one way or the other. A tech at a store may refuse to work on it if you don't have the stock rom on it and it's a software problem (which is valid as they can't fix problems some custom roms have). If you get water damage, screen cracks, or you lose it, who cares if it was rooted. You can always report it lost and they will never know one way or the other. They've had no problems working on unlocked windows mobile phones in the past or replacing them through asurion in my experience.
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Nobody has explicitly said that HTC will void a warranty on a phone unlocked with HTC's Unlock Tool. There is a pretty good chance that using the Revolutionary method will void it if they can prove it. You need to get really good at reversing your tracks and getting your phone back to square one. Follow all directions, make sure you know what you are flashing before you do.
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actually, htc does say you'll void your warranty if you use their unlock tool. there's a warning about it before you try their method.
btw, if you want to flash custom kernels for the custom roms, you need to boot into recovery (type "fasboot boot recovery.img" <recovery.img> is the name of whatever your recovery image is) through bootloader. i didn't know that and i was pulling my hair out flashing roms that wouldn't boot properly because i used rom manager and other methods to reboot into recovery.
this is for hboot 1.50
you need the kernels that go with the roms or your phone won't boot the roms properly.
You do know they too are aware of our secret public forum.
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we all know if you use any rooting method your warranty is void and like someone said by easily reverting back to factory stock this can be concealed. I think the concern is if people with hboot 1.50 use the HTCDEV unlock method and root their phone, will that place a marker or be put in some kind of database for sprint techs to see thus ruining chances of the phone being taken care of by them? I know I read that locking the phone backup shows so no matter what the techs will know.

Should I Root?

Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
You'll be fine, best buy will still take care of ya. Go for it.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Bestbuy doesn't have a policy, but if it is rooted, chances are you'll get a dumbass who won't replace it because it's rooted. The reason they will know this is because of the superuser app. If you ever decide to replace, go back to stock rooted, hide superuser the from apps list using a custom launcher like Launcher Pro and you'll be good.
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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That's the truth
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I would wait till revolutionary or who ever finds a way to s-off 1.5 I'm pretty sure there has been progress.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/hboot-15000-close-to-getting-s-off-on-htc-evo-3d.html
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is there an eta on 1.5?
Yes you should root.
Take05 said:
Ive done some searching and cant seem to find the specific answer Im looking for.
I have HBoot 1.5, and i was thinking of rooting by HTC's method. Im mostly concerned about what this will mean... What warranty does this void? I have Best Buy's Protection Plan, and to my knowledge they dont care if its rooted or not. but im not entirely sure... What would it mean if I root and my phone breaks?
If Best Buy will replace it, what exactly is voided?
Thanks for your guys help.
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i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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timezone12 said:
when you buy a car do you worry, that the dealership will find out that you put new tires on it? If you buy a house do you worry that the builder will find out you painted it a different colors? You paid for the car and the house and your phone which gives you the right to do what you want to it! So go forth and root and be confadent that xda will be here to help you
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Horrible comparison. Rooting your phone is more like adding a performance chip to your car that makes the car run different than from the factory, which if something happened to it, such as the engine blows because you removed the rev limiter (overclocking then your phone overheats and won't boot anymore), that would be your fault and the warranty should be voided.
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I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
Sad Panda said:
I'm going to post in contrast to the bandwagon, not saying I think you should not root but posting the counter argument for your decision making process.
I'm thinking that if you need to ask what the benefits of rooting are, maybe you aren't the type of user that needs root. If you were attempting or wanting to do several things that require root access I think your question instead would have been "I am attempting to do x, y, and z but it won't let me, how do I get around this, or that". So I am thinking you aren't using your device in a way that would require root. I could of course be wrong, and I am not trying to say don't root, merely posting the counter argument against persuading you to root, because most of us here have a biased opinion to always root your device.
There are cons to root, for example the same security holes that allow the exploit to root also allow malicious software to exploit it to run on your device.
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I was simply trying to figure out whats gonna be different about waiting for a different method other then HTC's. Ive only broken 1 phone in the past 6 years, and thats cus i was pushed in a lake... Not really my fault. Im not worried about hardware, but more or less when people say HTC Will know that the phone has been rooted no matter what afterwards... Not a big deal if its not gonna affect fixing my phone should i break it in the future.. (i just dont like people knowing what ive done to my electronics) As for using the root. im finally wanting to pull the trigger becasue i just moved and want tethering, as well as improved battery life. (my 4G seemed to get 25%-50% battery life after root)
Im rambling now, mostly cus my brother is distracting me and cant remember what ive written.
Im mostly just looking for peoples thoughts as far as HTC's method vs. Waiting for another actual s-off. unbeknown to HTC. I know the differences about flashing roms and what not, so just the basic question above.
blooregard_q_kazoo said:
i was in the same boat, but i took the plunge and rooted with htc method. i doubt best buy will no what to look for if it comes down to it, but i couldn't find a way to get back to s-on with hboot 1.5 either, so guess its up to you if you decide you want to root. i know the htc method keeps your identifier number on file, but maybe that is just if you return it to the manufacturer.
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There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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thos25 said:
There is no s-off with HTC method, so not sure what you mean when you say that you can't find a ready to get back to s-on. Even after unlocked through HTC you have s-on.
If you mean you want to put the lock back on, you fastboot the phone, type "fastboot OEM lock" with adb and you are locked again.
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I meant should i wait for s-off via someone else (rev i think). or just use htc's method (with s-on)
schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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Yeah this guy said it perfectly...
I only root for free hotspot. Old phones need speed boost but not so much now
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schmeggy929 said:
DONT ROOT!!! You will eventually spends hours of flashing custom ROM's, Kernels and Themes. You will then be tempted to mod your phone the way you like. This in turn will cost you countless hours and headaches to make it perfect. HAHA
YOU CAN DO IT!
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haha. I love this response!
If you're questioning yourself, then you probably should not.

Help please! HTC amaze sending back to for repair.

Please help read!!
So my HTC amaze died on me about 2 days ago I was listening to my music in my car connected through Bluetooth then a cop passed by and everything shut off haha coincidence haha anyway went home had no service like absolutely nothing thought nothing of it and went to sleep, next morning still nothing and ever since now its dead. Called HTC they said most likely its T-Mobile not the phone but they sent me a replacement back cover (which is cool) because the antennas are on the back anyway I know this isn't the problem because even without the back cover you can still get signal. So I took phone to T-Mobile put new sim tested and nothing so now I know its the phone not T-Mobile. Anyway my question is how can I prepare to send back to T-Mobile I have relocked phone put stock recovery and put leaked ics Rom. So is that bad that it sais relocked and bad if I'm using leaked ics rom I know its voids warrenty when it sais relocked but my software and phone everything works perfect its just the signal so will they fix it? And when I send in could I send phone with a eBay bought battery not HTC one so they could send me a new battery or should I send only HTC battery, phone, and back cover. And also is there any fix for this so I don't have to send in? Please help thanks
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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fcpelayo said:
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
cast2brian said:
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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fcpelayo said:
Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Just trying to help you get that under your hat, no offense meant.
Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid
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Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid <br />
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I've never heard of a warranty exchange get denied for this phone... even rooted. Most issues with this device are hw issues... u will be fine
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aw glacierguy thanks for the positive attitude! hope everything goes good for my phone!
So update for everyone i called HTC back and told them to cancel my back cover replacement for the Amaze because i know this is not the reason why i have no bars! because without that cover i still had bars and i know the amaze has some more antennas inside the device. Anyway i told them that i want to send the phone in for repairs so now everything set up and just have to send the phone on its way :crying: hope its a hardware issue and they can fix it. In the mean time got kinda intresting email from HTC saying
"After we receive the device, we will diagnose it and if there are any damages that fall outside of the limited warranty, we will contact you with a quotation to repair. If you choose not to repair, a service fee of up to $35 dollars will be charged and the device will be returned unrepaired."
Yes kinda scared me but hope i don't have to pay anything for this repair so everyone wish me luck and ill let you guys know how everything goes.
Sucks im probably not gonna have my phone for about a month
Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
ericdjobs said:
Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
Yes what darknightmare said you could get token but maybe last second decided not to do it haha anywho sending it saying relocked hope they fix hardware issue if not maybe gotta spend money?
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
Ya for sure lets see what htc sais shipped out today through ups htc should get it thursday hope ups loses or breaks my packagae have 300 dollar insurance ha but yep anyone know of any prices for this fix?
stevedebi said:
They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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100% on what Dark Nightmare said, i followed the procedure on the forums on how to completely restore to stock. i was s-off etc.. after it was all said and done, my phone was locked and ready to rock. I sent it back after my replacement arrived and all was good.
Just read through General, Q&A and Dev section, Trust me the answer is there. It's ALWAYS there. I used the GB juopunutbear S-off tool instead of the ICS tool cause i am retarded and didn't take my time and got stuck because of it. I did 2-3 minutes of using the search button and i was fixed in a second!
First of all! Yes Dark Nightmare is correct he knows his stuff you can put it back to locked anywho i would first like to say thank you for all the replys to this post. First post and didnt think my question would be answered but it was and its a great community we got here, i may be new member, but ive always been on xda reading up and hacking all my phones i have went from metro pcs huawei ascend, tmobile my touch 4g and now htc amaze all rooted and custom roms also have done droid and sidekick 4g. The thing is i do have experience and learned alot. Main thing is its an honor to have Dark nightmare and glacierguy here i feel like you guys are famous! ha have seen you guys in different sections and you guys know your stuff so thanks!
p.s everyone that posted i hit thanks
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That's why when dknmare comes in I don't argue with him instead I take it and learn.
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Dark Nightmare said:
Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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I think my post may not have been clear. Of course you can lock the bootloader; that is how one installs the original ROM. But I was under the impression that it then says ”relocked” if you have previously unlocked the device. That warning from HTC have me a lot of pause when I read it! But I think what I read said ”may” void your warranty. But I was reading fast...
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Help Reverting Back to Stock

Hey all!
I want to send my phone back to HTC for some warranty work (warranty expires within the week so I need to get this done asap). I'm having some call quality issues as well as network issues (limited 4G when my wife's LTEvo is better). Anyway, I'm trying to get it back to stock and unrooted.
I found videos by QBKing77. From his videos, it looks like I'm supposed to lock the bootloader and then unroot the phone. When he shows the bootloader screen, his shows tampered and unlocked. The lock bootloader video is then supposed to make it say relocked and tampered and then the unroot will take away the tampered notice. The thing is, I don't see those on mine. I know my phone is rooted, is it possible I didn't unlock the bootloader? If so, is there a way for me to check?
Basically, I'm looking for the best way for me to relock my phone and have it good enough that nothing looks like I'm violating any warranty. I've seen things about RUUs, but there are different versions it seems. I'm just not sure where to begin or what I need for my phone. I did not unroot via HTC's website or anything like that. But I did it all about a year ago, so I'm not exactly sure what I did.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Yes, if you use the tool it will revert your phone to S-on.
As far as whether or not Sprint or HTC cares is almost anybody's guess. I've seen people say they don't care, and others say that they do. Just to be safe go back completely stock. You can always root it again once you get it back
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Yes it will take the s-off flag to s-on, you will be back to stock, updated to 3.16, after that if it gets fixed/repaired you should be able to get s-off with moonshine / facepalm / dirty racun whichever it's easier for you...
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Thank you both very much! This sounds like exactly what I was looking for. I'll give it a shot and see if I'm still having the issues I'm having. If I am, I'll send it back. We send my wife's phone back to HTC once (never rooted) and they were pretty easy to work with. Just cost us about $8 in shipping or something like that.
I am honest with Sprint employees about my phone being rooted whenever I have an issue. They never seem to mind, they just can't always be as certain if the problem is their problem or something from me messing with it...and I understand that. I usually test with my wife's phone and see if I have the same problem or not. Anyway, for what it's worth, Sprint has always been good to me as far as my phone being rooted, but I wasn't asking for warranty work at those times.

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