Hi,
How can I permanently disable the Android market application from updating? I've used uninstaller to remove the update, but it seems Android thinks it has the authority to automatically update it self when it so pleases.
Is this not a violation of the TOS? How can I permanently prevent the Android Market application from installing updates?
The new version is a usability nightmare. Over half the screen is allocated to the stupid green top to which "google" will eventually be pushing their own advertised applications. Its absolutely brutal and unusable in its current form.
My phone is rooted if that makes a difference: IE change the permissions of the Android Market.apk so no one has the privilege to change write it.
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Android apps don't update themselves unless you allow them by checking the "automatic update" box. Uncheck that and see what happen. I've never encounter an app updates itself without my permission, unless I misunderstand your question?
Try something like:
adb shell chmod 555 /system/app/Vending.apk
adb shell cp /system/app/vending.apk /data/app/
adb shell chmod 555 /data/app/Vending.apk
phuthanvinh said:
Android apps don't update themselves unless you allow them by checking the "automatic update" box. Uncheck that and see what happen. I've never encounter an app updates itself without my permission, unless I misunderstand your question?
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Yes, you misunderstood the question. The OP is talking about the actual Android Market itself. It automatically updates itself as soon as you launch the Market.
The funny thing is that the OP hasn't counted how many apps are shown in the old version vs the new version.
khaytsus said:
The funny thing is that the OP hasn't counted how many apps are shown in the old version vs the new version.
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Take a look at where the scrollbars are. The new version is displaying less, from those screenshots.
Perfectly useable.
I just got the update, and yeah, this was really badly done.
Apparently loading the market now starts on your downloads list, which I find to be rather useless - I'm in the market to search or browse, and already have the main app list for this...
The curved upper part is pointless and just makes it feel more cramped, since it blocks most of whatever's at that part of the scrolling. It also keeps changing size, depending on what part of the Market you're in, rather disorienting.
The amount of lag is at the HOLY CRAP level, at least on the main screen that contains "Featured Apps". I had to put my phone down and wait just now because it completely stopped responding..
Now, let's go into "Apps"...
There are new subcategories, which is nice, but the Featured Apps are still there. Why? It's just a waste of space at this point.
Selecting an app, it's just a big mess. The curved upper part that has contained nothing but "Featured Apps" and the selector for Paid/Free/New now contains the image, name, and install/open/update/uninstall buttons, as well as the rating. I did ignore it for a short bit, expecting more ads, but then I realized - all the update/install/etc buttons in the entire market have been moved from the bottom of the screen to the top. And they're smaller, and their styles are different, so it's not immediately apparent.
Why is the Description automatically in "Less" mode? What happened to the nice tabs for Description, Comments, and Related that I had - now it's all smooshed back onto one page MySpace style..
I also see Allow Automatic Updates takes up... Wow, 3 lines, large gaps, and 1/3rd of my screen. Much more than it used to, for identical functionality. Again, why?
I think I'm going to redownload the AppBrain app for my searches. The "Update All" button is all I'll want from here.
I have no problems with the new market and it only loads the downloads page if that was the last page I was on and didnt close it completely and just put it in the background. IT may be device or Android version dependent as I have the update on a Captivate, Streak, and a LG ally and they all have almost no lag that I can notice.
Mine is working perfectly fine and only starts on the downloads page if I used the "home" button to exit the market rather than hitting back until it exited out. No lag and downloads seem to be faster as well. I am rooted and overclocked on a Droid X if that matters.
Have to agree with OP and Izkata, this is terrible from a usability standpoint; way too much scrolling and clicking to look at things like descriptions and comments on the details screen. Tabs just make more sense for that. Not to mention that when I'm browsing for apps, that curved upper section takes anywhere from 1/2 to 1/3 of my screen. Major fail on this one.
The Android Market Automatically Updates ITSELF ...
The original question was how does one prevent ithe Market from updating itself.
There is a suggested solution for a rooted phone ... which someone has tried?
Is there a solution for a phone as yet unrooted?
xxos
I had trouble with the market update on my rooted Flipside so I uninstalled the updates and used Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater app. Did this a week ago and so far no adverse effects.
xxos, as far as I know there is no way to prevent the update on a non-rooted phone.
As soon as I get over a certain natural nervousness I will be rooting my little beauty.
I like the idea of going straight to 2.3 and I like the idea of starting from a Sense-less base.
Any suggestions?
xxos
HTC Desire GSM 2.2
xxos said:
As soon as I get over a certain natural nervousness I will be rooting my little beauty.
I like the idea of going straight to 2.3 and I like the idea of starting from a Sense-less base.
Any suggestions?
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Don't hijack threads
I run GingerVillain works fine except videorecording
marvin02 said:
I had trouble with the market update on my rooted Flipside so I uninstalled the updates and used Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater app. Did this a week ago and so far no adverse effects.
xxos, as far as I know there is no way to prevent the update on a non-rooted phone.
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Thanks for the tip! Doing this you can keep the old Market, thus the Fast Web Installer from AppBrain still works
"pm disable com.android.vending.updater" should stop the market from auto-updating on you (You need to do this from a terminal session (or via adb shell) and you need to be rooted.
I used bloat freezer to freeze the market updater and it worked fine. Also requires root
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d11dog11 said:
I used bloat freezer to freeze the market updater and it worked fine. Also requires root
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I guess $1 is worth you not typing pm disable?
d11dog11 said:
I used bloat freezer to freeze the market updater and it worked fine. Also requires root
Sent from my Att Atrix 4g unlocked.
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Just remember that once they are done with the upgrades the old versions will not work.
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FIRST AND FOREMOST!
I apologize for any spamming that may have lead you here, however I have a SERIOUS problem!!!
My phone will NOT enter deep sleep. 7 hrs of light use has brought me down to 35%
I've tried 4 XLA4 base ROMs. Currently on LiL ROM. and I can't seem to find out what the problem is...
I have 83 apps installed on my phone and my facebook and twitter sync every hour. I have a weather widget doing an update ever 2 hrs and I hardly ever have my GPS turned on. This same config on non XLA4 Roms used to get between 22-28hrs of life with similar or identical usage pending the ROM.
Is it me or is it just XLA4? I've noticed I seem to be one of the few suffer issues with these ROMs. Help would be greatly appreciated.
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Battery life on XWLA4 has been sort of shoddy for me too when I left the phone sitting doing nothing. I once left my phone off the charger over night and it only went into deep sleep 78% of the time. Android OS was at 35% of usage.
I'll need to do more conclusive testing.
I just don't understand what it is...
Me neither. Didn't get it at all with either UCKH7 or XWKL1.
Well in any event I hope someone can point out the error of my ways and get this thing up and going properly.
The problem is at the top of your BBS (Android System NotificationService); it's the sole reason for not entering deep sleep. I've never seen it, so I can't speak to what it is. Maybe someone around here can identify it; otherwise, post your dump in the BBS thread for a better chance of someone being able to identify it.
EDIT: Search the BBS thread for NotificationService in the meantime. Also, google search the term with "xda" behind it, and peruse those threads.
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Not sure what's going on with yours but I was able to manage 6 1/2 hours of screen on time with LiLRoM v1. I have pics in the battery life thread in the general section as proof. I was using Entroypy's daily driver kernel but I'm not sure if that would have a huge impact or not. Your BBS dump shows that the Notification Service(Android System) is the main culprit of the battery drain. I don't know what exactly that counts as though.
Just posted in the BBS thread. hope someone can help...
Try any different kernels?
At the bottom of Siyah thread, I have a link to older versions. Some people like .7 & .9 more than newer versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19650906
It looks like that NotificationService is firing multiple repeated wakeup events... I think Siyah's suspend lock frequency is 500 MHz, which is why so much time is there.
As to why - no clue, I've never seen this happen on LA4 myself.
Well I've expirenced the same issues with multiple kernels.
So far I've tried...
Siyah
2.6.7
2.6.9
2.6.11
2.6.12
Entropy's DD
02/07/12
02/15/12_A
02/15/12_B
02/15/12_C
02/18/12_A
02/18/12_B
I want to say its the base but I don't get why I'd be the minority having the issues.
It seems like the problem is app based. I would suggest that you do nandroid and Titanium backups and delete all apps that could start the Notification Services. I see facebook katana in your BBS log.. that's my primary suspicion. Before you remove all notification related apps, try removing just Facebook and Facebook Messenger (if you have that installed too) and see if it helps.
That should hopefully remove this problem. If it does, then start adding those apps one by one and find the culprit. If it doesn't, then post here and we can do some differential diagnosis.
UPDATE: Another reason why I think that Facebook could be the rogue app is that in Market page for Facebook, the version number is not explicitly mentioned.. it says that the version number depends on the device. I am not an app dev but I presume that with the change in Android OS, Facebook probably needs to handle notifications differently. Now if you used TB to restore Facebook from an i777 backed up version, that could be causing the problem.
Summary
PLAN A:
1. right now you see excessive notification service wakelocks
2. uninstall facebook and messenger and see if that helps
3. IF that helps, install facebook fresh from market (that should fetch the correct Facebook version)
4. ...
PLAN B:
1. right now you see excessive notification service wakelocks
2. uninstall all notification related apps
3. reinstall them one by one
4. ...
jazzboyrules said:
It seems like the problem is app based. I would suggest that you do nandroid and Titanium backups and delete all apps that could start the Notification Services. I see facebook katana in your BBS log.. that's my primary suspicion. Before you remove all notification related apps, try removing just Facebook and Facebook Messenger (if you have that installed too) and see if it helps.
That should hopefully remove this problem. If it does, then start adding those apps one by one and find the culprit. If it doesn't, then post here and we can do some differential diagnosis.
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I'll do that now.
If you have apps like Facebook, its almost a necessity to download Autorun Manager. Through that you can disable those startup receivers that you can't through the interface settings on FB.
Might also help with other apps. One more time, its called Autorun Manager.
cwc3 said:
If you have apps like Facebook, its almost a necessity to download Autorun Manager. Through that you can disable those startup receivers that you can't through the interface settings on FB.
Might also help with other apps. One more time, its called Autorun Manager.
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Gonna give autorun manager a shot and see. Thanks.
Alucardis666 said:
Just posted in the BBS thread. hope someone can help...
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As per my post in the BBS thread:
OK I had a look at the thread you insist we post in. Have you carried out the suggestions?
Anyway, the issue seems reasonably obvious to me, but the app itself responsible isn't obvious. You're going to need to do some work to resolve this.
One of your apps is posting a notification - either a notification icon, or notification lights - that is stopping your phone going to sleep. Given that you have so many apps doing background activities, it's up to you to figure out which one it is. I would start by disabling notifications in facebook, and I think also Titanium Backup (are you doing automated app backups using TiBU?). But from experience, the app is likely to be your SMS app - for some reason, they have a bad rap for draining battery once a message is received but not read. Go SMS and Handcent both do this depending on configuration and random ROM/kernel/karma combinations.
Anyway, it's not kernel, it's a userland wakelock.
For your next BBS dump, do what we keep telling other people to do - charge the phone before going to bed, remove from charger, and leave it idle for a good number of hours. Then take a BBS dump with the view "since unplugged". Do this because there is little value trawling through a log that shows you normal work-day activities.
Cheers
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Well I just disabled sync/notifications for facebook and twitter and I turned off notifications for go sms too I'll leave the phone idle for an hr and see what happens.
EDIT: I've decided the head ache just isn't worth it. I'm gonna do a full wipe and then flash UnNamed V2.2.1 and not restore anything through TiBu
It definitely has to be an app because this is an idle test of a fresh install of Shishir with Siyah 2.6.12 and Init.doh .35 Exp. Less than 1%/hour drop with twitter every 15 minutes, and google sync/backup/locations enabled.
penguinlogik said:
It definitely has to be an app because this is an idle test of a fresh install of Shishir with Siyah 2.6.12 and Init.doh .35 Exp. Less than 1%/hour drop with twitter every 15 minutes, and google sync/backup/locations enabled.
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Wow... Stock battery?
Yup.123456
My totally stock (not rooted, never been near ODIN) S3 is suffering from a memory leak/issue that's requiring me to reboot my phone every 24 hours or so. I'm wondering if anyone else has faced this issue, or if anyone with any technical knowledge has any suggestions for how to fix it?
After 24 hours, this is what Applications Manager / Running looks like:
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See all those processes in a start of Restarting...?
Looking at "Cached Processes" will show only 1, maybe 2 processes. Returning to the homescreen is slow and has redraw issues.
As soon as I restart the phone, no processes are restarting anymore, and the list of cached processes has 10-15 items in it.
The symptoms to me scream "memory leak!" but I'm not sure how to progress to debug what's causing the issue. I have installed Terminal Emulator and also connected to the phone via ADB, but there's nothing terrible I can see in the list of processes that are taking up lots of memory. I can't see anything bad in logcat, but cat /proc/meminfo shows that I'm running out of memory.
Can anyone with a good understanding of Linux/Android provide suggestions on how I can debug what is taking up all the memory? There must be some tools via ADB or shell commands I can run to get a better understanding of what's going on.
I'm also curious to hear if anyone else is running into this issue. If it's just me, it could well be an app that I have installed causing the problem.
Thanks!
- muppet
Probably a software bug, 4.1.2 is out, why not update? It works wonders for me.
muppetmania said:
My totally stock (not rooted, never been near ODIN) S3 is suffering from a memory leak/issue that's requiring me to reboot my phone every 24 hours or so. I'm wondering if anyone else has faced this issue, or if anyone with any technical knowledge has any suggestions for how to fix it?
After 24 hours, this is what Applications Manager / Running looks like:
See all those processes in a start of Restarting...?
Looking at "Cached Processes" will show only 1, maybe 2 processes. Returning to the homescreen is slow and has redraw issues.
As soon as I restart the phone, no processes are restarting anymore, and the list of cached processes has 10-15 items in it.
The symptoms to me scream "memory leak!" but I'm not sure how to progress to debug what's causing the issue. I have installed Terminal Emulator and also connected to the phone via ADB, but there's nothing terrible I can see in the list of processes that are taking up lots of memory. I can't see anything bad in logcat, but cat /proc/meminfo shows that I'm running out of memory.
Can anyone with a good understanding of Linux/Android provide suggestions on how I can debug what is taking up all the memory? There must be some tools via ADB or shell commands I can run to get a better understanding of what's going on.
I'm also curious to hear if anyone else is running into this issue. If it's just me, it could well be an app that I have installed causing the problem.
Thanks!
- muppet
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Even I'm also facing the same problem since 4.1.1 upgrade. .. I tried all solutions by googling but nothing worked. Currently I'm restarting my device everyday. ... also patiently waiting for 4.1.2 update hoping that out will solve this memory leak issue.
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xSpeced said:
Probably a software bug, 4.1.2 is out, why not update? It works wonders for me.
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Because I am keen to find the cause, not just hope it might be fixed in a later version
asdf20 said:
Even I'm also facing the same problem since 4.1.1 upgrade. .. I tried all solutions by googling but nothing worked. Currently I'm restarting my device everyday. ... also patiently waiting for 4.1.2 update hoping that out will solve this memory leak issue.
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Thanks for replying - good to know I'm not going insane here
I experienced the same issue with stock unrooted 4.1.1. The problem is caused by some of the Samsung bloatware that ships with the phone as standard, this stuff is always running and cannot be stopped without rooting. I rooted and disabled a ton of it with Titanium Backup and all the memory issues I had were solved and as a side effect the phone is a lot less laggy. I highly recommend rooting anyway, it gives many advantages with one of the most important ones being the ability to control exactly what runs on your phone and when.
phobox360 said:
I experienced the same issue with stock unrooted 4.1.1. The problem is caused by some of the Samsung bloatware that ships with the phone as standard, this stuff is always running and cannot be stopped without rooting. I rooted and disabled a ton of it with Titanium Backup and all the memory issues I had were solved and as a side effect the phone is a lot less laggy. I highly recommend rooting anyway, it gives many advantages with one of the most important ones being the ability to control exactly what runs on your phone and when.
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Yes I'm familiar with rooting + more (If you look at my history you'll notice I released a few kernels for the Xperia Ray that I compiled. )
I'm trying to figure out exactly what programs/processes are the problem. Can you give me a list of those you disabled? Was there any particular one you disabled that seemed to fix the problem?
Thanks!
--muppet
phobox360 said:
I experienced the same issue with stock unrooted 4.1.1. The problem is caused by some of the Samsung bloatware that ships with the phone as standard, this stuff is always running and cannot be stopped without rooting. I rooted and disabled a ton of it with Titanium Backup and all the memory issues I had were solved and as a side effect the phone is a lot less laggy. I highly recommend rooting anyway, it gives many advantages with one of the most important ones being the ability to control exactly what runs on your phone and when.
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If Samsung bloatware is the culprit, then why it sows more memory when booted? Please note that same number of processes (which you are calling as bloatware) are running irrespective of whether the phone is booted freshly or used for sometime... the problem is with memory leak which this ROM is unable to manage.
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If Samsung bloatware is the culprit, then why it sows more memory when booted? Please note that same number of processes (which you are calling as bloatware) are running irrespective of whether the phone is booted freshly or used for sometime... the problem is with memory leak which this ROM is unable to manage.
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We're not entirely certain how Samsung apps (especially ones that aren't disable-able typically) are interacting with the system; so we can't really be certain of this. Android also does tend to hide some stuff from the services screen.
Anyway, I have a friend with this problem and we can't really find a reason for it; might go about disabling as much as we can (without root I mean) and see if we have any luck. On a sidenote, two others with identical phone/carrier/rom combinations without an issue.
The problem seems to be that some of the Samsung system processes tend to leak ram after some time. Which ones specifically is somewhat unclear, however I've had good results by disabling the kies process from running. Kies exists as both an android apk and an actual daemon process run during startup from init.rc. Disabling the apk and changing the permissions on the daemon so it cannot execute are quite effective methods of stopping it. I also disabled things like S Suggest, Video Hub and a whole bunch of others. Anything useful such as the fm radio, S Calendar, S Memo etc I leave enabled. I can give an exact list of things I've disabled if you like.
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The problem seems to be that some of the Samsung system processes tend to leak ram after some time. Which ones specifically is somewhat unclear, however I've had good results by disabling the kies process from running. Kies exists as both an android apk and an actual daemon process run during startup from init.rc. Disabling the apk and changing the permissions on the daemon so it cannot execute are quite effective methods of stopping it. I also disabled things like S Suggest, Video Hub and a whole bunch of others. Anything useful such as the fm radio, S Calendar, S Memo etc I leave enabled. I can give an exact list of things I've disabled if you like.
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I tried but couldn't find any process related to kies.... I've also disabled things like s suggest etc. But still experiencing memory leak. .. can you give me the list which you disabled on your phone?
I'm on stock and unrooted..
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The kies daemon is called kiesexe and is located in /system/bin. Disable it by removing it's execute permission, then disable the kies related apk's and reboot. I shall post a list soon when I'm back home.
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The kies daemon is called kiesexe and is located in /system/bin. Disable it by removing it's execute permission, then disable the kies related apk's and reboot. I shall post a list soon when I'm back home.
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This requires root though, and I don't want to root my phone (I know, call me crazy)
Also, from what I've seen kies daemon doesn't actually take up any memory, just leaves a lot of processes behind (that all share the same segment of shared memory)
You cannot claim that a phone is totally stock, and then post a picture including processes like winamp, facebook, etc. Stock means its only running the software that it would be running after a fresh wipe.
I never had this problem under 4.1.1, so its either
* A kernel fault in the stock firmware itself
* A faulty application you have downloaded
* A leaking service process that won't appear on the running processes list.
Okay, 2nd person on a i9300T stock ROM (there aren't that many after all) with this horrible leak (one of the previously okay people I mentioned). Looks like the early jellybean builds just suck (well, more than we originally thought).
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You cannot claim that a phone is totally stock, and then post a picture including processes like winamp, facebook, etc. Stock means its only running the software that it would be running after a fresh wipe.
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Sorry but I disagree with you. Stock to me, and I think most people, means the stock ROM that it came with, no mods, not rooted etc. Otherwise where do you draw the line? Is it still stock by your definition if I've taken 5000 photos and put 2000 contacts in the phone? Synced it with 50 Gmail accounts?
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I never had this problem under 4.1.1, so its either
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Oh, you've never had the problem? Why are you replying?
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* A kernel fault in the stock firmware itself
* A faulty application you have downloaded
* A leaking service process that won't appear on the running processes list.
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Yes, I'm aware of that. What I'm trying to track down is which one of those it is though. So I'm asking people what do they suggest so I can do that.
I'm fairly sure it's not going to be an app - apps run within the VM so killing them off would release all that memory. Much more likely is that it's a native ARM process (kiesexec for example) that's at fault. It could be an app I've downloaded though, there's no doubt about that.
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Okay, 2nd person on a i9300T stock ROM (there aren't that many after all) with this horrible leak (one of the previously okay people I mentioned). Looks like the early jellybean builds just suck (well, more than we originally thought).
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Any suggestions on how to debug it? Without root there's still a number of nodes in /proc I'm able to read from - suggestions for where to look to debug some more?
Cheers!
(a noob here)
a reset may help
Still, if you can't fix it , take it to Samsung for a new one.
Mitch_Faiz_555 said:
(a noob here)
a reset may help
Still, if you can't fix it , take it to Samsung for a new one.
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Thanks for the reply, but I'm after advice for how to debug the issue. Not suggestions on how to fix it, what to do etc
I hoepd a couple of experienced devs might be able to suggest what things to look at (dmesg, vmstat, last_kmsg etc)
Please, no more replies of "I don't have it, reset it, flash the latest fw"
I want to understand what the problem is!
Cheers,
muppet
muppetmania said:
Sorry but I disagree with you. Stock to me, and I think most people, means the stock ROM that it came with, no mods, not rooted etc. Otherwise where do you draw the line? Is it still stock by your definition if I've taken 5000 photos and put 2000 contacts in the phone? Synced it with 50 Gmail accounts?
Oh, you've never had the problem? Why are you replying?
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Stock means Factory Configuration.
not "Oh i have facebook and yada bullcrap 123 installed but its stock"
Avoid and pass by a fool and a madman
So, I'm on mp6, android 9 - bootloader unlocked and rooted, if I update to Android 10, I know I will lose root access and everything, but the bootloader will lock again? That hurts, can you inform me fully, if possible, how to unlock the bootloader on the android 10, if it's too difficult to do then I'm probably not going to update
I am suffering with this, the miui 11 is very bad with advertisements, I am sorry for the upgrade and I do not advise ... I sent a message to the official BS2 forum and they do not have support yet ... the most funny and that the OEM option, it is enabled even without logging into the mi account. but the system does not accept the downgrade.
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I am suffering with this, the miui 11 is very bad with advertisements, I am sorry for the upgrade and I do not advise ... I sent a message to the official BS2 forum and they do not have support yet ... the most funny and that the OEM option, it is enabled even without logging into the mi account. but the system does not accept the downgrade.
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Agreed, I hated it the moment I saw it.
I was sooo stupid, just looked up a few news pages and they all said it was great. I didn't even looked at the look and feel of it. It is full of bloatware and I think performance wise it is much worse. It surely does look sleek but at a huge resource drain. RAM is being used God knows where and the battery... Fully charged before bed, by 1Pm the next day it was at %50. And nope, I didn't use it.
I don't want an iPhone.
DRei69 said:
Agreed, I hated it the moment I saw it.
I was sooo stupid, just looked up a few news pages and they all said it was great. I didn't even looked at the look and feel of it. It is full of bloatware and I think performance wise it is much worse. It surely does look sleek but at a huge resource drain. RAM is being used God knows where and the battery... Fully charged before bed, by 1Pm the next day it was at %50. And nope, I didn't use it.
I don't want an iPhone.
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I'm searching all sites, including Chinese looking for donwgrade but so far nothing ... unfortunately our device is poor in development
this is what i found but i can't download the links to try. apparently we should go back android 9 to mask the system and then update to joyui11
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108643754?utm_source=zhihu&utm_medium=social&utm_oi=986944598182248448
babboooo said:
this is what i found but i can't download the links to try. apparently we should go back android 9 to mask the system and then update to joyui11
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108643754?utm_source=zhihu&utm_medium=social&utm_oi=986944598182248448
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it seems that to download you need to pay for the links, to make it worse miui 11 in addition to draining battery, it's getting very hot ...
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
DRei69 said:
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
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You say this as if no one can pull out a ROM on XDA. You say the phone is very hot, but my phone doesn't heat up because I use wi-fi for network games, and the swappiness my 12/256 device seems to have a much longer time frame than on your device. I have all the big games installed and they work with maximum graphics.
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You say that when upgrading the ROM version you had problems overwriting dalvik. But Android is constantly in development throughout my life, and make wipe data/cache/dalvik this is already happening purely for aesthetics. Yes, I've read some comments about how many devices have lost performance after the update. So much so that the device has problems coming out of a long sleep and turning on the speakers. But I have no such problems. I don't know how long it will be in development, but I haven't seen than Android yet, in good condition, it's always been like this, one-legged and crooked.
Me at all on retro phone pulled, I ordered a Nokia 6600.
By the way, for some reason in the BS2+ section I did not meet posts with the code *#*#4636#*#*, does no one need it anymore. Having received the Dual 4G mode, we somehow forgot about it, but in vain.
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You say this as if no one can pull out a ROM on XDA. You say the phone is very hot, but my phone doesn't heat up because I use wi-fi for network games, and the swappiness my 12/256 device seems to have a much longer time frame than on your device. I have all the big games installed and they work with maximum graphics.
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You say that when upgrading the ROM version you had problems overwriting dalvik. But Android is constantly in development throughout my life, and make wipe data/cache/dalvik this is already happening purely for aesthetics. Yes, I've read some comments about how many devices have lost performance after the update. So much so that the device has problems coming out of a long sleep and turning on the speakers. But I have no such problems. I don't know how long it will be in development, but I haven't seen than Android yet, in good condition, it's always been like this, one-legged and crooked.
Me at all on retro phone pulled, I ordered a Nokia 6600.
By the way, for some reason in the BS2+ section I did not meet posts with the code *#*#4636#*#*, does no one need it anymore. Having received the Dual 4G mode, we somehow forgot about it, but in vain.
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I think you getting the wrong information or maybe you quoted the wrong post
The reason I didn't like the new update was because it was full of bloatware that I could not disable. The fact that just trying to use Calculator and set-up my Alarm required Location Services and Internet location or else they would not start (this is just 2 of the apps).
The fact that it delete a whole bunch of applications which were not compatible. Didn't even leave the app data which sucked as I lost months of gaming.
The fact that it was eating up RAM like crazy, yet the phone was running smoothly, no problems there.
The fact that it was running hot yet you wouldn't see that unless running Shark Cooler.
Now I will say that my phone always runs all games on the highest graphical settings. Actually choosing lower settings and 30fps would make games run really sluggish.
The images you posted actually look pretty crap I have a few games like RAID and Saint Seiya which look amazing.
My phone was purchased to be a mobile platform, the games are just extras to keep me busy on the go.
At home I game on my PC or Console, not my phone. If I want to play mobile games I would download the PC Clients or use an Emulator, my progress will be carried across.
You gotta realise that if you game on your phone, be it on data or WiFi you are radiating yourself pretty damn hard. We wonder why cancer rates are going up...
I rolled back using the method mentioned on these forums and everything was great, but I couldn't use my Google Phone Backup because it was a higher version so I ended up copying the whole phone to my PC.
DRei69 said:
I think you getting the wrong information or maybe you quoted the wrong post
The reason I didn't like the new update was because it was full of bloatware that I could not disable. The fact that just trying to use Calculator and set-up my Alarm required Location Services and Internet location or else they would not start (this is just 2 of the apps).
The fact that it delete a whole bunch of applications which were not compatible. Didn't even leave the app data which sucked as I lost months of gaming.
The fact that it was eating up RAM like crazy, yet the phone was running smoothly, no problems there.
The fact that it was running hot yet you wouldn't see that unless running Shark Cooler.
Now I will say that my phone always runs all games on the highest graphical settings. Actually choosing lower settings and 30fps would make games run really sluggish.
The images you posted actually look pretty crap I have a few games like RAID and Saint Seiya which look amazing.
My phone was purchased to be a mobile platform, the games are just extras to keep me busy on the go.
At home I game on my PC or Console, not my phone. If I want to play mobile games I would download the PC Clients or use an Emulator, my progress will be carried across.
You gotta realise that if you game on your phone, be it on data or WiFi you are radiating yourself pretty damn hard. We wonder why cancer rates are going up...
I rolled back using the method mentioned on these forums and everything was great, but I couldn't use my Google Phone Backup because it was a higher version so I ended up copying the whole phone to my PC.
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I've seen people collect their backups over the years and try to get them used to the system. Well, in the screenshots, for example, Doom3 port PC, and this is a script game. Very heavy for Android multitasking. But it works pretty confidently on BS2. The RAM of my device is not yet reached, not for one of them. But not enough of those programs for Android 10, adapted for managing RAM. You are talking about fps, but some programs must manage fps, they must lower the fps forcibly to use for example videos in games.
And this is not a virus, it is a security system with the ability to restrict background processes.
MCT_ said:
I've seen people collect their backups over the years and try to get them used to the system. Well, in the screenshots, for example, Doom3 port PC, and this is a script game. Very heavy for Android multitasking. But it works pretty confidently on BS2. The RAM of my device is not yet reached, not for one of them. But not enough of those programs for Android 10, adapted for managing RAM. You are talking about fps, but some programs must manage fps, they must lower the fps forcibly to use for example videos in games.
And this is not a virus, it is a security system with the ability to restrict background processes.
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I should have asked if your device is Rooted? If YES then yeah, it would explain why you can manage it better and have control over the bloatware apps installed.
The app mentioned in the screenshot, does that require Root?
I have a Xiaomi MI 9T Pro and it has the same OS on Android 9 which is MIUI 10. So all they did was give us MIUI 10. Also if you read around lots of people downgrade from MIUI 11. Obviously these new updates are not good. If it ain't broke don't fix it:
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Have a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/gse82b/so_today_i_found_out_that_miui_11080_is/
DRei69 said:
I should have asked if your device is Rooted? If YES then yeah, it would explain why you can manage it better and have control over the bloatware apps installed.
The app mentioned in the screenshot, does that require Root?
I have a Xiaomi MI 9T Pro and it has the same OS on Android 9 which is MIUI 10. So all they did was give us MIUI 10. Also if you read around lots of people downgrade from MIUI 11. Obviously these new updates are not good. If it ain't broke don't fix it:
---------- Post added at 05:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 PM ----------
Have a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/gse82b/so_today_i_found_out_that_miui_11080_is/
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No, not rooted.
I don't do fix, just use the existing settings.
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Antivirus is here:
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The equalizer is here:
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So what doesn't work like that ?
It is quite suitable for everyday use (at this stage of development).
And people are different.
In any case, the choice is yours, whether to download an update or not for the device is your own decision.
DRei69 said:
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
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Sorry, I'm new to this stuff. I've tried this but ended up getting the message "The upgrade package does not exist". I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
I've made the folder "ota" and put the "update.zip" file inside, click local update and it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? do I have to extract the files?
Device model: SKW_H0
Current Version: SKYW2005101OS01MQ0
P.S. Just extracted the files into the OTA folder, still doesn't work. This time, no message appears.
Hello,
I have a question about upgrade. I'm in SMP5 rooted an I want to go to SMP6. I have OTA update notification, but anytime I tried to update it does not work. It finish downloading the OTA but it does nothing applying it. I have checked uninstalling magisk an with non- patched boot image. Do I need to do anything else? Do I have to lock againg bootloader a critical bootloader?
Thanks
julipxda said:
Hello,
I have a question about upgrade. I'm in SMP5 rooted an I want to go to SMP6. I have OTA update notification, but anytime I tried to update it does not work. It finish downloading the OTA but it does nothing applying it. I have checked uninstalling magisk an with non- patched boot image. Do I need to do anything else? Do I have to lock againg bootloader a critical bootloader?
Thanks
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You have to relock the bootloader.
Edit: It is the new Android 13 version
The new update from nov. 2022 (security), but also new features.
App-thema for icons.
Colors
Photopicker
New apps, need aproval to show status messages
New mediaplayer
Total size 2,34 GB (dutch version)
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Apart from the new features, I noticed:
The UI is smoother and more resposonsive
Google Lens keeps saying "Camera isn't working", whether I open it from Google app or from the camera app.
laska.levin said:
Apart from the new features, I noticed:
The UI is smoother and more resposonsive
Google Lens keeps saying "Camera isn't working", whether I open it from Google app or from the camera app.
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I just tried my Lens app and that has the same problem.
So it looks like a structoral problem.
Let's hope they can fix it in the next update/patch.
The update is now available in Hong Kong as well.
I received the update in Bulgaria two days ago and so far the phone is behaving perfectly fine, I also noticed the transitions are a bit smoother (not that it was sluggish before) and I also love the new theme colors. Regards
caponex said:
I received the update in Bulgaria two days ago and so far the phone is behaving perfectly fine, I also noticed the transitions are a bit smoother (not that it was sluggish before) and I also love the new theme colors. Regards
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Could you please check the Lens app from google and see if you get an error the moment you try to use the camera?
Someone else and myself do get an error.
elot01 said:
Could you please check the Lens app from google and see if you get an error the moment you try to use the camera?
Someone else and myself do get an error.
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I just installed this app and am also getting an error, the screen is black and there is a loading spinner for some time and then the error appears.
what's more, "Double tap to check phone" doesn't work either.
Also, after each restart, driving mode would lead your phone to Do not disturb mode, even if you had deleted that rule before.
double tap to check phone works if you enable it again in the special menu, i.e. you will find it already enabled so you will have to deselect and re-enable it, after which it will work as it should...until you turn off the phone...and then you are forced to redo this operation...
there are several bugs in this android 13...
abecedario_ said:
double tap to check phone works if you enable it again in the special menu, i.e. you will find it already enabled so you will have to deselect and re-enable it, after which it will work as it should...until you turn off the phone...and then you are forced to redo this operation...
there are several bugs in this android 13...
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Thanks mate, the method you provided does work.
elot01 said:
I just tried my Lens app and that has the same problem.
So it looks like a structoral problem.
Let's hope they can fix it in the next update/patch.
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Many things are not working, double tap, Lens, Split screen, Google photo scan, Google Authenticator, many apps that require accessibility access are no longer working. What boarders me most is that Casting is no longer working. I hope they address these issues soon. If someone has a work around, I'll be glad.
ege2 said:
Many things are not working, double tap, Lens, Split screen, Google photo scan, Google Authenticator, many apps that require accessibility access are no longer working. What boarders me most is that Casting is no longer working. I hope they address these issues soon. If someone has a work around, I'll be glad.
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as for me, one of my games got literally killed by the update (Touhou LostWord).
After updating it to Android 13, the game stopped working, at all! All attempts in fixing it, which include things like reinstalling the game, restarting the device, etc... just didn't work!
The game's customer service told me to reset my phone's cache partition, but Nokia just doesn't allow that, so I'm now very unhappy
AltFantasy said:
as for me, one of my games got literally killed by the update (Touhou LostWord).
After updating it to Android 13, the game stopped working, at all! All attempts in fixing it, which include things like reinstalling the game, restarting the device, etc... just didn't work!
The game's customer service told me to reset my phone's cache partition, but Nokia just doesn't allow that, so I'm now very unhappy
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AltFantasy said:
as for me, one of my games got literally killed by the update (Touhou LostWord).
After updating it to Android 13, the game stopped working, at all! All attempts in fixing it, which include things like reinstalling the game, restarting the device, etc... just didn't work!
The game's customer service told me to reset my phone's cache partition, but Nokia just doesn't allow that, so I'm now very unhappy
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I found out that if you side load app, it won't work unless you download it from Play Store, so don't use backed up apps. Accessibility access won't work unless you download it from Play Store. You can access Lens and Translate from Google Photos. Take a picture of what you want to search with Lens, open it with Photos app, you can use Lens from within the Photos app. I'll be glad if anyone has find any other features or solutions.
The latest update, v3.470, seems to have fixed those issues.
At least the Lens is working again.
Great to hear that.
Hello there,
I have had my Find N2 (fold) for about a week now and all has been going well until the last 24 hrs or so...
I am in Australia on the Telstra network and have 2 Telstra sims in the phone both that have been working fine up until now..
The issue is that as of past 24 hrs or so the phone can make and receive calls (on either sim) but the calls always drop out after about 2-3 seconds..
You can hear and speak to the other person but only for a very brief moment before the call drops out.
This is the same for receiving calls not just me dialing out.
The first week or 10 days the phone didn't have this issue and worked fine... its only in the past 24 hours
I did a full factory reset and it was working fine again but now about 24 hrs latter same issue!!
I did try putting in a different sim (Vodafone) and it does the same thing - so doesn't appear to be network related...
Some setting in the phone perhaps???
Any suggestions to help would be most welcome..
Thanks
Frosty
I seemed to have worked out what the issue was...
I use the phone for personal and work thus the 2 sims - my work email requires me to setup a work profile which the app Microsoft Intune does.
When I have the 'Work" apps enabled this makes the phone calls not work (as per my above issue)
When the "work" profile is disabled all calls work normally - luckily its a simple one button click to disable and enable the work profile - so I just leave it disabled most of the time and just enable it when I need to check work emails.
This might help someone else one day if they have the same issue.
Frosty
frostywinter said:
I seemed to have worked out what the issue was...
I use the phone for personal and work thus the 2 sims - my work email requires me to setup a work profile which the app Microsoft Intune does.
When I have the 'Work" apps enabled this makes the phone calls not work (as per my above issue)
When the "work" profile is disabled all calls work normally - luckily its a simple one button click to disable and enable the work profile - so I just leave it disabled most of the time and just enable it when I need to check work emails.
This might help someone else one day if they have the same issue.
Frosty
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That's interesting. Oppo just pushed an update (A.35) to my N2 and coincidentally listed as one of the fixes is: "Fixes an issue that might cause your device to drop calls in certain scenarios".
How are you finding the N2 so far? Anything in particular stand out, and do you have any general tips or hacks you've done that you like?
I am really enjoying the N2 - it does take some time to uninstall the Chinese apps (the ones that you can uninstall that is) configuring the Work profile took a few try's to get that going.
I still don't get all the notifications I would like - like from my eufy security cameras but luckily the notifications do come through to my Garmin Venu 2+ watch so I can see them that way.
I find the factory email app work pretty well so I use that one for my personal emails.
WhatsApp, Facebook and Facebook messenger also work well and get notifications.
You can install and use custom icons which is nice since other launchers won't work properly.
Battery life is excellent easily getting 24-30 hours.
The form factor is excellent!
Cheers
Frosty
frostywinter said:
I am really enjoying the N2 - it does take some time to uninstall the Chinese apps (the ones that you can uninstall that is) configuring the Work profile took a few try's to get that going.
I still don't get all the notifications I would like - like from my eufy security cameras but luckily the notifications do come through to my Garmin Venu 2+ watch so I can see them that way.
I find the factory email app work pretty well so I use that one for my personal emails.
WhatsApp, Facebook and Facebook messenger also work well and get notifications.
You can install and use custom icons which is nice since other launchers won't work properly.
Battery life is excellent easily getting 24-30 hours.
The form factor is excellent!
Cheers
Frosty
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Thanks -- I am also very impressed with the battery life. Where did you find new icons? On the oppo theme store?
On the notification front I only need gmail and whatsapp at the moment and get them consistently enough (though sometimes I notice gmail takes a bit of time).
And yes, agreed, the form factor is great. It took a while to get used to the weight of the phone, but now that I am I'm loving it. It really is a perfectly sized mini tablet, too, and I'm glad it opens into landscape because if I'm opening it, for my use case, I'm almost always wanting the app to open in landscape mode (and the layout differences that entails) and not portrait mode. Having to rotate the phone every time I unfolded it would be quite annoying.
Re the stock Chinese apps, yes, many of them can't be uninstalled or disabled. So I just put them all in an "Oppo" folder and forgot about them lol
CedricFP said:
That's interesting. Oppo just pushed an update (A.35) to my N2 and coincidentally listed as one of the fixes is: "Fixes an issue that might cause your device to drop calls in certain scenarios".
How are you finding the N2 so far? Anything in particular stand out, and do you have any general tips or hacks you've done that you like?
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Did your A.35 update affect your inner screen layout like the Oppo Find N owners are discussing?
Interesting that after installing the latest .35 update on my N2 that the issue of calls dropping out when using the work profile appears to have gone So this is good.
Does anyone have the English translation of what the .35 update did - the change log only shows in Chinese.
Apart from my call issue been fixed I haven't noticed anything else with the 900+meg update.
For getting different icons on the N2 I just downloaded some of my favourites from the Play Store - you apply them by pressing on a blank spot on your screen and selecting "icons" and the new ones will appear there to use.
I didn't notice any affect to the inner screen layout with the .35 update.
Cheers
Frosty
Strange, mine shows in English:
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Did your A.35 update affect your inner screen layout like the Oppo Find N owners are discussing?
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No nothing has changed on my inner screen.
CedricFP said:
No nothing has changed on my inner screen.
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Very good, glad to hear that. I feel better to proceed with the update.