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So, I'm on mp6, android 9 - bootloader unlocked and rooted, if I update to Android 10, I know I will lose root access and everything, but the bootloader will lock again? That hurts, can you inform me fully, if possible, how to unlock the bootloader on the android 10, if it's too difficult to do then I'm probably not going to update
I am suffering with this, the miui 11 is very bad with advertisements, I am sorry for the upgrade and I do not advise ... I sent a message to the official BS2 forum and they do not have support yet ... the most funny and that the OEM option, it is enabled even without logging into the mi account. but the system does not accept the downgrade.
Browzingamer said:
I am suffering with this, the miui 11 is very bad with advertisements, I am sorry for the upgrade and I do not advise ... I sent a message to the official BS2 forum and they do not have support yet ... the most funny and that the OEM option, it is enabled even without logging into the mi account. but the system does not accept the downgrade.
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Agreed, I hated it the moment I saw it.
I was sooo stupid, just looked up a few news pages and they all said it was great. I didn't even looked at the look and feel of it. It is full of bloatware and I think performance wise it is much worse. It surely does look sleek but at a huge resource drain. RAM is being used God knows where and the battery... Fully charged before bed, by 1Pm the next day it was at %50. And nope, I didn't use it.
I don't want an iPhone.
DRei69 said:
Agreed, I hated it the moment I saw it.
I was sooo stupid, just looked up a few news pages and they all said it was great. I didn't even looked at the look and feel of it. It is full of bloatware and I think performance wise it is much worse. It surely does look sleek but at a huge resource drain. RAM is being used God knows where and the battery... Fully charged before bed, by 1Pm the next day it was at %50. And nope, I didn't use it.
I don't want an iPhone.
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I'm searching all sites, including Chinese looking for donwgrade but so far nothing ... unfortunately our device is poor in development
this is what i found but i can't download the links to try. apparently we should go back android 9 to mask the system and then update to joyui11
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108643754?utm_source=zhihu&utm_medium=social&utm_oi=986944598182248448
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this is what i found but i can't download the links to try. apparently we should go back android 9 to mask the system and then update to joyui11
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108643754?utm_source=zhihu&utm_medium=social&utm_oi=986944598182248448
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it seems that to download you need to pay for the links, to make it worse miui 11 in addition to draining battery, it's getting very hot ...
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
DRei69 said:
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
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You say this as if no one can pull out a ROM on XDA. You say the phone is very hot, but my phone doesn't heat up because I use wi-fi for network games, and the swappiness my 12/256 device seems to have a much longer time frame than on your device. I have all the big games installed and they work with maximum graphics.
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You say that when upgrading the ROM version you had problems overwriting dalvik. But Android is constantly in development throughout my life, and make wipe data/cache/dalvik this is already happening purely for aesthetics. Yes, I've read some comments about how many devices have lost performance after the update. So much so that the device has problems coming out of a long sleep and turning on the speakers. But I have no such problems. I don't know how long it will be in development, but I haven't seen than Android yet, in good condition, it's always been like this, one-legged and crooked.
Me at all on retro phone pulled, I ordered a Nokia 6600.
By the way, for some reason in the BS2+ section I did not meet posts with the code *#*#4636#*#*, does no one need it anymore. Having received the Dual 4G mode, we somehow forgot about it, but in vain.
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You say this as if no one can pull out a ROM on XDA. You say the phone is very hot, but my phone doesn't heat up because I use wi-fi for network games, and the swappiness my 12/256 device seems to have a much longer time frame than on your device. I have all the big games installed and they work with maximum graphics.
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You say that when upgrading the ROM version you had problems overwriting dalvik. But Android is constantly in development throughout my life, and make wipe data/cache/dalvik this is already happening purely for aesthetics. Yes, I've read some comments about how many devices have lost performance after the update. So much so that the device has problems coming out of a long sleep and turning on the speakers. But I have no such problems. I don't know how long it will be in development, but I haven't seen than Android yet, in good condition, it's always been like this, one-legged and crooked.
Me at all on retro phone pulled, I ordered a Nokia 6600.
By the way, for some reason in the BS2+ section I did not meet posts with the code *#*#4636#*#*, does no one need it anymore. Having received the Dual 4G mode, we somehow forgot about it, but in vain.
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I think you getting the wrong information or maybe you quoted the wrong post
The reason I didn't like the new update was because it was full of bloatware that I could not disable. The fact that just trying to use Calculator and set-up my Alarm required Location Services and Internet location or else they would not start (this is just 2 of the apps).
The fact that it delete a whole bunch of applications which were not compatible. Didn't even leave the app data which sucked as I lost months of gaming.
The fact that it was eating up RAM like crazy, yet the phone was running smoothly, no problems there.
The fact that it was running hot yet you wouldn't see that unless running Shark Cooler.
Now I will say that my phone always runs all games on the highest graphical settings. Actually choosing lower settings and 30fps would make games run really sluggish.
The images you posted actually look pretty crap I have a few games like RAID and Saint Seiya which look amazing.
My phone was purchased to be a mobile platform, the games are just extras to keep me busy on the go.
At home I game on my PC or Console, not my phone. If I want to play mobile games I would download the PC Clients or use an Emulator, my progress will be carried across.
You gotta realise that if you game on your phone, be it on data or WiFi you are radiating yourself pretty damn hard. We wonder why cancer rates are going up...
I rolled back using the method mentioned on these forums and everything was great, but I couldn't use my Google Phone Backup because it was a higher version so I ended up copying the whole phone to my PC.
DRei69 said:
I think you getting the wrong information or maybe you quoted the wrong post
The reason I didn't like the new update was because it was full of bloatware that I could not disable. The fact that just trying to use Calculator and set-up my Alarm required Location Services and Internet location or else they would not start (this is just 2 of the apps).
The fact that it delete a whole bunch of applications which were not compatible. Didn't even leave the app data which sucked as I lost months of gaming.
The fact that it was eating up RAM like crazy, yet the phone was running smoothly, no problems there.
The fact that it was running hot yet you wouldn't see that unless running Shark Cooler.
Now I will say that my phone always runs all games on the highest graphical settings. Actually choosing lower settings and 30fps would make games run really sluggish.
The images you posted actually look pretty crap I have a few games like RAID and Saint Seiya which look amazing.
My phone was purchased to be a mobile platform, the games are just extras to keep me busy on the go.
At home I game on my PC or Console, not my phone. If I want to play mobile games I would download the PC Clients or use an Emulator, my progress will be carried across.
You gotta realise that if you game on your phone, be it on data or WiFi you are radiating yourself pretty damn hard. We wonder why cancer rates are going up...
I rolled back using the method mentioned on these forums and everything was great, but I couldn't use my Google Phone Backup because it was a higher version so I ended up copying the whole phone to my PC.
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I've seen people collect their backups over the years and try to get them used to the system. Well, in the screenshots, for example, Doom3 port PC, and this is a script game. Very heavy for Android multitasking. But it works pretty confidently on BS2. The RAM of my device is not yet reached, not for one of them. But not enough of those programs for Android 10, adapted for managing RAM. You are talking about fps, but some programs must manage fps, they must lower the fps forcibly to use for example videos in games.
And this is not a virus, it is a security system with the ability to restrict background processes.
MCT_ said:
I've seen people collect their backups over the years and try to get them used to the system. Well, in the screenshots, for example, Doom3 port PC, and this is a script game. Very heavy for Android multitasking. But it works pretty confidently on BS2. The RAM of my device is not yet reached, not for one of them. But not enough of those programs for Android 10, adapted for managing RAM. You are talking about fps, but some programs must manage fps, they must lower the fps forcibly to use for example videos in games.
And this is not a virus, it is a security system with the ability to restrict background processes.
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I should have asked if your device is Rooted? If YES then yeah, it would explain why you can manage it better and have control over the bloatware apps installed.
The app mentioned in the screenshot, does that require Root?
I have a Xiaomi MI 9T Pro and it has the same OS on Android 9 which is MIUI 10. So all they did was give us MIUI 10. Also if you read around lots of people downgrade from MIUI 11. Obviously these new updates are not good. If it ain't broke don't fix it:
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Have a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/gse82b/so_today_i_found_out_that_miui_11080_is/
DRei69 said:
I should have asked if your device is Rooted? If YES then yeah, it would explain why you can manage it better and have control over the bloatware apps installed.
The app mentioned in the screenshot, does that require Root?
I have a Xiaomi MI 9T Pro and it has the same OS on Android 9 which is MIUI 10. So all they did was give us MIUI 10. Also if you read around lots of people downgrade from MIUI 11. Obviously these new updates are not good. If it ain't broke don't fix it:
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Have a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/gse82b/so_today_i_found_out_that_miui_11080_is/
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No, not rooted.
I don't do fix, just use the existing settings.
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Antivirus is here:
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The equalizer is here:
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So what doesn't work like that ?
It is quite suitable for everyday use (at this stage of development).
And people are different.
In any case, the choice is yours, whether to download an update or not for the device is your own decision.
DRei69 said:
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
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Sorry, I'm new to this stuff. I've tried this but ended up getting the message "The upgrade package does not exist". I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
I've made the folder "ota" and put the "update.zip" file inside, click local update and it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? do I have to extract the files?
Device model: SKW_H0
Current Version: SKYW2005101OS01MQ0
P.S. Just extracted the files into the OTA folder, still doesn't work. This time, no message appears.
Hello,
I have a question about upgrade. I'm in SMP5 rooted an I want to go to SMP6. I have OTA update notification, but anytime I tried to update it does not work. It finish downloading the OTA but it does nothing applying it. I have checked uninstalling magisk an with non- patched boot image. Do I need to do anything else? Do I have to lock againg bootloader a critical bootloader?
Thanks
julipxda said:
Hello,
I have a question about upgrade. I'm in SMP5 rooted an I want to go to SMP6. I have OTA update notification, but anytime I tried to update it does not work. It finish downloading the OTA but it does nothing applying it. I have checked uninstalling magisk an with non- patched boot image. Do I need to do anything else? Do I have to lock againg bootloader a critical bootloader?
Thanks
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You have to relock the bootloader.
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Hi there. Long time listener, first time (Android) poster here (and previously infrequent Windows Mobile poster).
I'm in Australia and ordered a Galaxy S2 from the UK, which I love. But the last couple of days I've noticed MASSIVE unintended 3G data use. I only have a 1GB limit and I was going along merrily for the last week. Then yesterday all of a sudden in one day I'd used around 300MB. So I did some tweaking, installed 3G Watchdog and this morning I'd used another 400MB!! The reason I installed 3G Watchdog is because it can tell me my data usage by app, and it turns out (according to 3GW) that the offender is AP Mobile, which had received 339.1MB this morning! So I'm just wondering if I could get some help with this.
AP Mobile as I understand it is purely an RSS type widget. Doesn't seem to be an app anywhere for it, and when you go into the widget, there are only like 2 configurable settings. Can't even choose which feeds it gets, from what I could tell. I had looked at it initially and set the refresh to 3 hours, but later removed the widget. It must have kept updating though (but even so,for a mobile device seems like a massive amount of data still!). I didn't realise this, but have now set the refresh to 'none'. I hope this works! Does anyone know much about it?
OK, so my questions really are:
1. Does anyone know how I can make sure this never accesses data again? I use Juice Defender but it doesn't even appear in the list of configurable apps (though things like the BBC iPlayer do). Perhaps because it's only a widget? Is there another app that might help me do this?
2. Ages ago I used Android Assistant to kill the APM process on startup since I wasn't using it. But it must still auto start itself at times (perhaps this was connected to the update interval, which is now set to 'none'). Is there an app that could persistently disable this (and other) service(s) without rooting?
3. Which leads to my third question. I'm assuming the only way to uninstall this (since it came as part of the original ROM) is to root my GS2? I saw the thread on rooting a GS2 but I'm not sure about all the terms, like which specific firmware I have and which kernal to install after rooting. I'm more than happy to root it but had a bit of trouble working out what it all meant. If I was to root it, is it simple to uninstall original firmware apps or is the only way to install a custom ROM?
EDIT: Ok, I think I have a handle on rooting my device now, my apologies for not researching thoroughly enough. I think I know which firmware, kernel etc. I have so it's just a matter of doing it now. And then I can use Titanium backup to uninstall stock Samsung apps? Is this the best/only way to do this?
4. I'm generally happy with the device as is so I don't necessarily (yet) want to install custom ROMs. If I only root it, without installing a new ROM, will I still be able to install Kies updates as and when they appear? And does that unroot it?
Sorry for all the questions! And I'm so sorry too since I know most of this is completely n00b stuff to you all. This is my first Android phone so still learning the ropes. And if I should have posted elsewhere please reprimand me accordingly. I did search before posting, but being a new platform, I don't have a framework yet for knowing the right search terms exactly.
I am having the same problem. I am also in Australia.
Is there a non root solution?
I use Quick Settings Mobile Data APN off unless i want it on .
jje
After my initial ramblings, I ended up rooting my phone and removing the app entirely using Titanium backup. It was easy and painless and only took like 5 minutes. I assume it's worked for my data consumption, but haven't been able to test on 3G yet because I went over my limit for the month (thanks to APM) so have shut down mobile data until my next billing cycle. Doesn't seem to be anything like the data consumption over wifi though, so far. I still don't know though whether by rooting, if i load the next update through Kies (whenever it is released) I lose root or not, but so far the benefits far outweigh the inconvenience.
Without rooting, you can in the app set the update frequency to 'none' (one of the 2 settings it has!) but I didn't test whether this actually stops it or not, before I uninstalled it.
I too have the same problem with the AP Mobile App/Widget. At first when I got my SGS2 I used the widget as it looked pretty nice, but I soon stopped using it as it is almost entirely exclusively US news - pretty lazy of Samsung considering this is a UK version... you would think they could have got AP to configure it to EURO market or work with someone else such as the BBC instead. Anyway, the first time I noticed it was a CPU hog was when I noticed that in the space of my morning alarm, and me getting up (an hour, in which I took the phone off charging) the battery had gone down about 30%! In that hour I had not been using the phone at all! I checked the battery usage and it was clear what was responsible.... the AP Mobile app was using about 50% (can't remember exactly now) of the whole battery - more than the display and everything else! I force stopped it, and reported it, but still can't believe how much this can hog cpu/drain battery/data without even being used!!! Remember, this is without using the widget anymore, or ever checking the app! Today, I had my phone in my pocket (and inside a pouch) and all of a sudden I noticed it was really hot! To notice a unused phone, inside my jeans pocket, inside a pouch was really hot shows just how much the cpu must have been going crazy! When I took it out of my pocket the whole phone (including the screen) was very hot... something I've noticed a few times before when under intensive use (flash video streaming/1080p video taking/taking a call whilst charging) but for it to get like this whilst it shouldn't even be doing anything is crazy! Sure enough, when I checked the battery usage, AP was the guilty party! See attached screenshot from today as an example - notice the battery go off a cliff (over say half an hour, presumable whilst AP did it's thang) before I force stopped it! I should note this has happened over different firmware versions, so it's very much an app issue.
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After reading this post I have set the frequency to 'none' and hope that fixes this issue, but a widget really shouldn't be acting like this when not in use. I would be interested to hear if anyone else spots this in their battery usage - if so please post a screenshot also!
Samsung/AP please fix!
BTW, You will see that Wifi Sharing was draining the battery also... again without me using it. Could AP be activating it?
I am having exactly the same issue.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and live in the UK so I too found the AP Mobile app a waste of space so I removed it.
A week into my monthly data quota being refreshed O2 txted me telling me I had used 80% of my 500Mb data - which was bizarre since I use my phone mainly on wifi and not for downloading large files. Even more bizarrely ONE HOUR later I got another txt telling me ALL my data had been used - and I had done absolutely nothing. In fact I even closed down the widgets I thought were consuming data.
I didn't realise it was APM at the time - however a few days ago I woke up and noticed my battery level abnormally low. I checked the usage and it had AP Mobile As the culprit - even though I had removed the widget weeks earlier! It was right at the top of battery usage, even above Display and Android OS
There is something seriously wrong with the AP Mobile App on Galaxy S2.
Based on another poster's above advice, I just added the widget again, went to SETTINGS for it and set the update frequency to NONE (it had been on hourly before I last removed it), and then I removed the widget again. I will keep an eye on my phone.
Really annoyed that Samsung Galaxy S2 auto starts this app even after you kill it AND especially after you removed the widget too!
Looks like I am going to have to root my phone if this don't work!
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I am having exactly the same issue.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and live in the UK so I too found the AP Mobile app a waste of space so I removed it.
A week into my monthly data quota being refreshed O2 txted me telling me I had used 80% of my 500Mb data - which was bizarre since I use my phone mainly on wifi and not for downloading large files. Even more bizarrely ONE HOUR later I got another txt telling me ALL my data had been used - and I had done absolutely nothing. In fact I even closed down the widgets I thought were consuming data.
I didn't realise it was APM at the time - however a few days ago I woke up and noticed my battery level abnormally low. I checked the usage and it had AP Mobile As the culprit - even though I had removed the widget weeks earlier! It was right at the top of battery usage, even above Display and Android OS
There is something seriously wrong with the AP Mobile App on Galaxy S2.
Based on another poster's above advice, I just added the widget again, went to SETTINGS for it and set the update frequency to NONE (it had been on hourly before I last removed it), and then I removed the widget again. I will keep an eye on my phone.
Really annoyed that Samsung Galaxy S2 auto starts this app even after you kill it AND especially after you removed the widget too!
Looks like I am going to have to root my phone if this don't work!
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Same problem here with AP mobile. AP mobile is a badly written App. It drains battery like crazy, so I ended up removing it. There are better news feeder on the market, so it's not a big deal to just delete it.
iamthecosmos was right.
Adding the AP Widget again, then setting the update frequency to none before removing it again works just fine
Thanks!
AnthonyDeSouza said:
iamthecosmos was right.
Adding the AP Widget again, then setting the update frequency to none before removing it again works just fine
Thanks!
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Same problem here, UK based. Wake up Samsung.
How did you add the widget again please? New to the phone.
TIA Dave
I had the same problem, I've had the phone for about 5 months now,but last night I'd notice it heating up and using ridiculous amount of battery, I just ignored this, switch off then switch on. This afternoon I noticed 3g Watchdog say I was nearing my data limit, Netquin confirmed this, check the usage, was APM! used up 1.1 gig of my monthly 1.5 gig quota! I'd never used the widget before now and as nice as it looks was pointless with me being UK based and the app more US stories.
I'm hoping putting the refresh to 'never' does help, but after reading this thread and going to check that, it was already on 'never'!
Still, I now have 26 days of non data usage thanks to that widget
Something is seriously wrong with you guys' phones. I have AP mobile refresh every hour and it only use about 350 MB per month.
Also Associated Press (AP) is american, so obviously you are going to get mostly american news.
I am on Stock 2.3.5 and its rooted. Installed the free version of titanium backup and i m unable to delete the application. The AP Mobile is not even on my widgets. The frequency is set to None. Still when i see 3G Watchdog, the maximum utilization is of AP Mobile. My ISP is screwing me with long big bills. Thanks to 3G watchdog, at least i know the culprit now.
Pls help how to delete this crap application.
Open up titanium. At the top hit 'backup/restore' and you should see it there. Click on it and you should have an uninstall option.
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sxi200 said:
Open up titanium. At the top hit 'backup/restore' and you should see it there. Click on it and you should have an uninstall option.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
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Yes, when I do that, it gives me option. "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)". When i select this, it says blah blah and your phone will reboot twice.
But in the first reboot only, the phone goes to 3e recovery. The msg is, could not install the AP mobile (and gives the path to apk).
then I do reboot phone and nothing.. AP Mobile is still there..
ginloin said:
4. I'm generally happy with the device as is so I don't necessarily (yet) want to install custom ROMs. If I only root it, without installing a new ROM, will I still be able to install Kies updates as and when they appear? And does that unroot it?
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Updating through Kies does remove root access, but you can just re-root it straight away.
Hi All,
I'm a noob here, so please correct me on things which I may state incorrectly. I'm no expert on the Android OS or Samsung devices (first time user of the OS and phone manufacturer), but I too am experiencing the same problems everyone else is having.
I have tried countless methods mentioned on multiple forums to reduce the high data usage, but many only suggest data monitoring.
AP Mobile is definitely a culprit, but there are many other processes in the background which are continuously syncing to somewhere without our knowledge. I had performed all that was suggested (disable all forms of background syncing, deleted AP Mobile, etc. and data usage was still very high)
Recently, I came across two apps which has helped me better control my data usage.
I will give a little review of what I found useful, and what I found I disliked about the two apps:
1) NetQin Security
This app provides multiple functions, acting as an Anti Virus, Optimization of the device by closed all programs and freeing up RAM, and mostly importantly, Network Manager.
The Network Manager allows for Daily and Monthly Traffic views and you will be able to view the processes connecting to the Internet.
Great thing is, you can also view data usage per app.
There is also a Firewall feature, which will allow you control data traffic for individual apps for both WiFi and 2G/3G connectivity.
If the phone is rooted, there is a setting which can be enabled, called "Disconnect at limit", which is self explanatory
One thing I don't like as much as the next app I will mention, is that it doesn't offer as many apps to manage in the Firewall list.
2) DroidWall
This app is only a firewall. Allows users to control the data that passes through their phone, and has more controllable apps.
Things I dislike, it is doesn't offer a network monitor, or an option to Disconnect on Limit
Both apps are available from the Android Market.
Please be aware that both these apps will need root access.
I know this doesn't completely resolve the high data usage issue, but will help reduce the high data usage.
Please let us know if someone does find a solution to this issue.
Exactly the same ...
Hi,
last month ( November) I had a data usage of 3.6 GB :O ... cost me £20 . And I'd been using Facebook a lot more than normal + emails, however this month, 15 days into the billing period I've used over 1GB of data , costing me £11. I downloaded my data manager and realised it was AP, however I'd already tried that widget in the past, and already set it's update frequency to 'None', but it did nothing!!
Sooooo, I guess the only solution is root and delete :/ Urgh... wanted to wait more than 2 months of having the phone before rooting... ah well!!
just root and uninstall it.
same issue here
Hi, sporadically I had the same issue too. Sometime 100Mb, other time 250Mb, I could not understand what was taking so much data, heating up the phone and draining the battery. Instead of going straight back to the shop, where generally you find [email protected]@Kwits that understand zero about this sort of problems, I decided to study the issue a little bit by myself. And installed data traffic programs to check what was going on. Initially I thought google+ was doing it but AP mobile came out to be the first cause.
I ask myself the following questions:
-what is the point in installing a program only for american news on phones that are sold in europe....mistery...
-there are obviously many cases related t this [email protected]@ked up program that samsung insists on installing, as the first posts related to this came out in april/may 2011, so nearly 8 months ago and with the new releases of firmware nothing has been done.
-get your functional tests right guys in samsung!!! how long do you test your [email protected]@t before handing it over to volume manufacturing??
So, at the end, I rooted the phone and uninstalled this crap. Big plause to samsung for this totally (useless) crap and for wasting money and time of it customers!!!!
I have the same problem intermittently. Fortunately I am on an unlimited data tariff, but yesterday my phone used ~350mb and drained the battery in a few hours. Battery and data use statistics showed that AP mobile used nearly 30% of the battery, despite the fact that I had not run it and do not have the widget installed!
I used the "My Samsung" UK site to contact tech support to ask about the issue. The response I got was:
"Thank you for contacting Samsung.
Can you please go menu>settings>accounts and sync and turn off automatic
sync
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and
we will be more than happy to help."
Useful. It's not like I want to get my e-mails/calendar events/twitter feeds/facebook updates/BBC news updates...
My totally stock (not rooted, never been near ODIN) S3 is suffering from a memory leak/issue that's requiring me to reboot my phone every 24 hours or so. I'm wondering if anyone else has faced this issue, or if anyone with any technical knowledge has any suggestions for how to fix it?
After 24 hours, this is what Applications Manager / Running looks like:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
See all those processes in a start of Restarting...?
Looking at "Cached Processes" will show only 1, maybe 2 processes. Returning to the homescreen is slow and has redraw issues.
As soon as I restart the phone, no processes are restarting anymore, and the list of cached processes has 10-15 items in it.
The symptoms to me scream "memory leak!" but I'm not sure how to progress to debug what's causing the issue. I have installed Terminal Emulator and also connected to the phone via ADB, but there's nothing terrible I can see in the list of processes that are taking up lots of memory. I can't see anything bad in logcat, but cat /proc/meminfo shows that I'm running out of memory.
Can anyone with a good understanding of Linux/Android provide suggestions on how I can debug what is taking up all the memory? There must be some tools via ADB or shell commands I can run to get a better understanding of what's going on.
I'm also curious to hear if anyone else is running into this issue. If it's just me, it could well be an app that I have installed causing the problem.
Thanks!
- muppet
Probably a software bug, 4.1.2 is out, why not update? It works wonders for me.
muppetmania said:
My totally stock (not rooted, never been near ODIN) S3 is suffering from a memory leak/issue that's requiring me to reboot my phone every 24 hours or so. I'm wondering if anyone else has faced this issue, or if anyone with any technical knowledge has any suggestions for how to fix it?
After 24 hours, this is what Applications Manager / Running looks like:
See all those processes in a start of Restarting...?
Looking at "Cached Processes" will show only 1, maybe 2 processes. Returning to the homescreen is slow and has redraw issues.
As soon as I restart the phone, no processes are restarting anymore, and the list of cached processes has 10-15 items in it.
The symptoms to me scream "memory leak!" but I'm not sure how to progress to debug what's causing the issue. I have installed Terminal Emulator and also connected to the phone via ADB, but there's nothing terrible I can see in the list of processes that are taking up lots of memory. I can't see anything bad in logcat, but cat /proc/meminfo shows that I'm running out of memory.
Can anyone with a good understanding of Linux/Android provide suggestions on how I can debug what is taking up all the memory? There must be some tools via ADB or shell commands I can run to get a better understanding of what's going on.
I'm also curious to hear if anyone else is running into this issue. If it's just me, it could well be an app that I have installed causing the problem.
Thanks!
- muppet
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Even I'm also facing the same problem since 4.1.1 upgrade. .. I tried all solutions by googling but nothing worked. Currently I'm restarting my device everyday. ... also patiently waiting for 4.1.2 update hoping that out will solve this memory leak issue.
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xSpeced said:
Probably a software bug, 4.1.2 is out, why not update? It works wonders for me.
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Because I am keen to find the cause, not just hope it might be fixed in a later version
asdf20 said:
Even I'm also facing the same problem since 4.1.1 upgrade. .. I tried all solutions by googling but nothing worked. Currently I'm restarting my device everyday. ... also patiently waiting for 4.1.2 update hoping that out will solve this memory leak issue.
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Thanks for replying - good to know I'm not going insane here
I experienced the same issue with stock unrooted 4.1.1. The problem is caused by some of the Samsung bloatware that ships with the phone as standard, this stuff is always running and cannot be stopped without rooting. I rooted and disabled a ton of it with Titanium Backup and all the memory issues I had were solved and as a side effect the phone is a lot less laggy. I highly recommend rooting anyway, it gives many advantages with one of the most important ones being the ability to control exactly what runs on your phone and when.
phobox360 said:
I experienced the same issue with stock unrooted 4.1.1. The problem is caused by some of the Samsung bloatware that ships with the phone as standard, this stuff is always running and cannot be stopped without rooting. I rooted and disabled a ton of it with Titanium Backup and all the memory issues I had were solved and as a side effect the phone is a lot less laggy. I highly recommend rooting anyway, it gives many advantages with one of the most important ones being the ability to control exactly what runs on your phone and when.
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Yes I'm familiar with rooting + more (If you look at my history you'll notice I released a few kernels for the Xperia Ray that I compiled. )
I'm trying to figure out exactly what programs/processes are the problem. Can you give me a list of those you disabled? Was there any particular one you disabled that seemed to fix the problem?
Thanks!
--muppet
phobox360 said:
I experienced the same issue with stock unrooted 4.1.1. The problem is caused by some of the Samsung bloatware that ships with the phone as standard, this stuff is always running and cannot be stopped without rooting. I rooted and disabled a ton of it with Titanium Backup and all the memory issues I had were solved and as a side effect the phone is a lot less laggy. I highly recommend rooting anyway, it gives many advantages with one of the most important ones being the ability to control exactly what runs on your phone and when.
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If Samsung bloatware is the culprit, then why it sows more memory when booted? Please note that same number of processes (which you are calling as bloatware) are running irrespective of whether the phone is booted freshly or used for sometime... the problem is with memory leak which this ROM is unable to manage.
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If Samsung bloatware is the culprit, then why it sows more memory when booted? Please note that same number of processes (which you are calling as bloatware) are running irrespective of whether the phone is booted freshly or used for sometime... the problem is with memory leak which this ROM is unable to manage.
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We're not entirely certain how Samsung apps (especially ones that aren't disable-able typically) are interacting with the system; so we can't really be certain of this. Android also does tend to hide some stuff from the services screen.
Anyway, I have a friend with this problem and we can't really find a reason for it; might go about disabling as much as we can (without root I mean) and see if we have any luck. On a sidenote, two others with identical phone/carrier/rom combinations without an issue.
The problem seems to be that some of the Samsung system processes tend to leak ram after some time. Which ones specifically is somewhat unclear, however I've had good results by disabling the kies process from running. Kies exists as both an android apk and an actual daemon process run during startup from init.rc. Disabling the apk and changing the permissions on the daemon so it cannot execute are quite effective methods of stopping it. I also disabled things like S Suggest, Video Hub and a whole bunch of others. Anything useful such as the fm radio, S Calendar, S Memo etc I leave enabled. I can give an exact list of things I've disabled if you like.
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The problem seems to be that some of the Samsung system processes tend to leak ram after some time. Which ones specifically is somewhat unclear, however I've had good results by disabling the kies process from running. Kies exists as both an android apk and an actual daemon process run during startup from init.rc. Disabling the apk and changing the permissions on the daemon so it cannot execute are quite effective methods of stopping it. I also disabled things like S Suggest, Video Hub and a whole bunch of others. Anything useful such as the fm radio, S Calendar, S Memo etc I leave enabled. I can give an exact list of things I've disabled if you like.
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I tried but couldn't find any process related to kies.... I've also disabled things like s suggest etc. But still experiencing memory leak. .. can you give me the list which you disabled on your phone?
I'm on stock and unrooted..
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The kies daemon is called kiesexe and is located in /system/bin. Disable it by removing it's execute permission, then disable the kies related apk's and reboot. I shall post a list soon when I'm back home.
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phobox360 said:
The kies daemon is called kiesexe and is located in /system/bin. Disable it by removing it's execute permission, then disable the kies related apk's and reboot. I shall post a list soon when I'm back home.
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This requires root though, and I don't want to root my phone (I know, call me crazy)
Also, from what I've seen kies daemon doesn't actually take up any memory, just leaves a lot of processes behind (that all share the same segment of shared memory)
You cannot claim that a phone is totally stock, and then post a picture including processes like winamp, facebook, etc. Stock means its only running the software that it would be running after a fresh wipe.
I never had this problem under 4.1.1, so its either
* A kernel fault in the stock firmware itself
* A faulty application you have downloaded
* A leaking service process that won't appear on the running processes list.
Okay, 2nd person on a i9300T stock ROM (there aren't that many after all) with this horrible leak (one of the previously okay people I mentioned). Looks like the early jellybean builds just suck (well, more than we originally thought).
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You cannot claim that a phone is totally stock, and then post a picture including processes like winamp, facebook, etc. Stock means its only running the software that it would be running after a fresh wipe.
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Sorry but I disagree with you. Stock to me, and I think most people, means the stock ROM that it came with, no mods, not rooted etc. Otherwise where do you draw the line? Is it still stock by your definition if I've taken 5000 photos and put 2000 contacts in the phone? Synced it with 50 Gmail accounts?
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I never had this problem under 4.1.1, so its either
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Oh, you've never had the problem? Why are you replying?
Squall-Leonhart said:
* A kernel fault in the stock firmware itself
* A faulty application you have downloaded
* A leaking service process that won't appear on the running processes list.
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Yes, I'm aware of that. What I'm trying to track down is which one of those it is though. So I'm asking people what do they suggest so I can do that.
I'm fairly sure it's not going to be an app - apps run within the VM so killing them off would release all that memory. Much more likely is that it's a native ARM process (kiesexec for example) that's at fault. It could be an app I've downloaded though, there's no doubt about that.
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Okay, 2nd person on a i9300T stock ROM (there aren't that many after all) with this horrible leak (one of the previously okay people I mentioned). Looks like the early jellybean builds just suck (well, more than we originally thought).
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Any suggestions on how to debug it? Without root there's still a number of nodes in /proc I'm able to read from - suggestions for where to look to debug some more?
Cheers!
(a noob here)
a reset may help
Still, if you can't fix it , take it to Samsung for a new one.
Mitch_Faiz_555 said:
(a noob here)
a reset may help
Still, if you can't fix it , take it to Samsung for a new one.
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Thanks for the reply, but I'm after advice for how to debug the issue. Not suggestions on how to fix it, what to do etc
I hoepd a couple of experienced devs might be able to suggest what things to look at (dmesg, vmstat, last_kmsg etc)
Please, no more replies of "I don't have it, reset it, flash the latest fw"
I want to understand what the problem is!
Cheers,
muppet
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Sorry but I disagree with you. Stock to me, and I think most people, means the stock ROM that it came with, no mods, not rooted etc. Otherwise where do you draw the line? Is it still stock by your definition if I've taken 5000 photos and put 2000 contacts in the phone? Synced it with 50 Gmail accounts?
Oh, you've never had the problem? Why are you replying?
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Stock means Factory Configuration.
not "Oh i have facebook and yada bullcrap 123 installed but its stock"
I tried searching but cannot find exactly what I am looking for.
I have a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912, Android 4.1.2, rooted. When I got this phone, what impressed me is the speed at which it ran. (1200Mhz 32bits Dual-Core). Before that, I had a Droid X, ran great for a year or two, then so slow it could take a minute or more before I could get the dialer up to make a phone call. Same thing with Google Maps, I would reach the destination before I could finally pull it up on Maps. I upgraded with Verizon to this new Razr Maxx. Very fast, very good. I installed Jellybean 4.1.2 and rooted it, use Titanium Backup, cannot use CWM ROM Manager anymore so I tried Safestrap.
Problem is that now this phone is over two years old and is doing the same thing. I have close to 400 apps from what Titanium tells me if I must restore. But these apps are set to update automatically and they seem to do so at a rapid pace. Every other day some group of apps has updated. Now the thing is too slow to be used as a phone most of the time or GPS navigation. I installed Micro CPU Monitor to see how busy this CPU is (Makes one pixel high lines across top of screen, one for each core) and most of the time, the CPU is pinned. What surprised me is how many apps just "run all the time" and not just when you want or need them. Many of the silly games do not exit, they run constantly although you do not see it. Could that be the problem? Too many apps running, too many updates requiring more and more power and memory?
How can I trim down the list of apps I want/need or at least make them NOT run unless I use them? I need to get some speed back on this phone, it is barely usable much of the time and do not have the money to buy new phones twice a year like Verizon wants me to. As it is, $150/Mo is too darned much money for a cell phone anyway. I have unlimited everything but not hotspot, I use Wireless Tether for Root Users for that.
How can I get this phone back up to speed again? Any help would be appreciated.
Try greenify, this let's u hibernate apps u don't need /want when screen is off, have nearly 200+ apps installed and most of them hibernated. That means, this apps will only run when start them, I think it's worth a try
Edit: U will get it in playstore and needs root, but u are
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Yes I had 250 apps and my phone was not that slow with greenify but I found I did not use like 40 of them lol so they were just taking up space.
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tydiamond11 said:
Yes I had 250 apps and my phone was not that slow with greenify but I found I did not use like 40 of them lol so they were just taking up space.
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Same here, just uninstalled useless stuff today, forgot some apps
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DumbleCore said:
Try greenify, this let's u hibernate apps u don't need /want when screen is off, have nearly 200+ apps installed and most of them hibernated. That means, this apps will only run when start them, I think it's worth a try
Edit: U will get it in playstore and needs root, but u are
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Oh dude, I just installed greenify and watchdog because they are supposed to help with this. I also go SetCPU. it lets you make rules for conditions on how much CPU speed you can allocate. For example, I want maps and navigation and phone to have full power, in my case that is 1- 1.2Ghz. When screen is blacked, I cut it down to 300-800Mhz to save battery. What is cool is the chart that shows how much time the CPU spends in each frequency range. 3/4 of the time it sits at 800Mhz.
Yes of course I am rooted. Best way to get free hotspot out of Verizon instead of paying $20/mo whether you use it or not. :good:
Greenify looks cool as hell and it gives you an app list but how do you use it? Let's take Twitter for example. I rarely if ever use it. Shows up as Scheduled Running (Since last startup). For Twitter to be useful, it has to run all the time to accept incoming tweets. Because I don't give a dam about Twitter but want to keep it around, how does Greenify make that baby hibernate? What do I have to do to make this happen? You can tap to hightlight and there is a check and some sort of camera looking icon on top of screen, what do you do to shut this puppy down? I have games that never quit, want them OFF when not in use, Facebook runs constantly but would be nice to make sure it is not a memory or CPU hog. Can u give some hints, tips, or instructions on how to use Greenify? (Maybe I can Google this.)
Oh I get it dude! I clicked Twitter and the camera looking icon and it disappeared from the Shows up as Scheduled Running (Since last startup) list. I had to click "More Apps" to find it way down in the list. This time I clicked it and hit the check and it is now hibernating until I want to use it. This is AWESOME dude, you got my thanks for this tip. I am going to dig deeper into this now. Thanks!
Edit: There is such an awesome list in Greenify that this is awesome. I have been using task killers but the dammed task comes right back after killed so this is better, hibernate that stuff. So cool! Okay, so I want to test this out and make sure it really does not destroy anything important. I hibernated RoboForm (Awesome password manager that syncs with my other PCs) and it is NOT running anymore. Yet, when tapped, it goes right to work immediately. I can sync it anytime I feel the need but since it is not running yet still works just fine, this really is one awesome app! Hmmm, I just checked APPS and Roboform is running, but I did just use it. I checked Greenify again to see if it is still hibernated, and it is now listed as "Pending". I clicked the little "i" icon for more information and it tells me that Roboform is running for a short time but will hibernate again when the screen times out. Le's try it and see. Letting screen black out, giving it time to pass the 5 second grace period, and will check hibernation status of Roboform again.
Hmmm, I waited about 3-5 minuted and Roboform was still pending hibernation. There really are not settings I can find in Greenify to shorten the pending hibernation time. Maybe a pay version but I cannot find it. I can immediately put it back to sleep in Greenify, but there should be a setting for how long it should be pending. Once I am done with it, I rarely use it again immediately so would like this puppy to sleep right away. Facebok is another one that runs all over the phone. I want messenger active so I leave it alone. But to have the main app running constantly is ridiculous. This Greenify is a great start and many Editor's Choice awards, but without a settings menu, I can't give it 5 stars. Still great stuff, thanks again.
Edit 2: How to enable all the cool stuff in Greenify Donation Version menu
There is a "Donate Version" costs $2.99 with more features. This thing is worth 3 bucks, I just bought it and installed it. Oh, yeah, you get Experimental Features in the Donate Version but must install Xposed Framework to use it. It is free but must have rooted phone to install it. I just installed it, then have to open the installer and "install it to the phone". Reboot required. Then open the framwork installer again, click Modules, and put check mark into Greenify checkbox. Reboot again.
Yeah, you get some cool stuff in the pay version. I like it and think it is worth the 3 bucks. I like this, a boosted performance version, ability to wake up push message programs like Skype, Facebook Messenger, or anything like that. What the hell, buy the guy a cup of Joe for 3 bucks, it is worth it if you got the money. But the free version really is good enough, the extra stuff here is not essential but nice to have. Here is what you get:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Last thing, here is a cool tip for Titanium Backup users.
If you have more than one Android device, buy a pay app, and "want to try it out on another device without having to buy it again", make a backup in Titanium Backup, export the backup to something easy to access like Dropbox, open your other device, open dropbox, and restore the app and data. You get the pay version on the other device and can then "try before you buy". This works most of the time. It may not work on everything, but so far I have not found one yet where it does not work.
DumbleCore said:
Same here, just uninstalled useless stuff today, forgot some apps
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You know, that is my problem too. I have a lot of apps and really do use them and like them, just not all the time. I am an electronic tech and some of the really good electronic apps are super, but I do not use them often. tydiamond11 is right, using Greenify it will put the crap you do not use all the time or consider essential to run constantly into hibernation. That means they do not run and use CPU, or use memory. But they still work when you click them. This would solve a huge part of this problem, I did install Greenify and am using it now. Just figured out how to use it when tydiamond11 replied how much it helped him. I just tested it, it shows a list of all your stuff, if it is running in background, foreground, and other important information on it. I do not use Twitter hardly at all but it must run all the time to receive incoming Tweets. Since I don't give a rat's behind about Twitter for the most part but want it around, I sent that baby packing to the hibernation room. Now that I got it figured out, I will use this a lot and I be my performance should improve. I will post results here because this is my thread and I want not only answers, but help for others who have this problem so they can find it.
Try Greenify and hibernate a bunch of running crap that you do not need running all the time and see if it helps. Find it at the play store or on Google. I put a link for you in the app name. Come back and share your experience. Let's help each other and do not forget to click the "Thanks" button if something really does help you.
I didnt use greenify, juice defender, xposed etc, and my phone is fast, I just installed trickstermod, debloat the phone, convert some system apps to user apps with titanium backup and I have about 350-400+ mb of free ram on stock rom. Now I have slim bean 4.3.1, and have 250+ of free ram without greenify etc.....you should try debloat your rom and convert some apps to user apps...
Hello me!!! Its me again!!!
what is the advantage of converting system apps to user apps?
Firex2 said:
what is the advantage of converting system apps to user apps?
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Because you cannot shut off or Greenify system apps. They are considered essential so they are not allowed to be shut off of hibernated. BUT. a lot of carriers will put their own bloatware into system apps so you cannot shut them off like Verizon VZ Navigator, which is the same thing as Google Maps (free) and not as good. Titanium Backup will allow you to freeze or remove bloatware like this and making it a system app, allows task manager and Greenify to kill them or hibernate them. Even Faebook was a system app and I could not Greenify it and make it go to sleep. But the $3 Greenify allows you to insist and hibernate it, plus it will wake it up if you get a messages sent to the app. Facebook can be pretty annoying, besides running all the time, it pops and makes alerts for the most stupid stuff ever. "Chris Santoro is playing Farmville and invited ou to play." Or someone I know vaguely from school will be constantly posting pictures of their kids whom I have never met or will meet. I do not need these notifications constantly. I will check Facebook when I am ready and see what there is to see. With Grenify donate version, I now have Facebook hibernating and not bugging me with this nonsense anymore, and it works just as well as it did before.
I am seeing a Big improvement with Greenify already. I hibernated Google Maps until I need them and my load went way down on the phone. Maps and Chrome browser are already system apps so you cannot Greenify them without the donate version of Greenify. It was well worth the 3 bucks for the pay version.
i bought Greenify month ago, so there wouldn't be any further advantage =) i like the app much, it makes stock rom more smooth, but not as smooth as 4.3
Firex2 said:
i bought Greenify month ago, so there wouldn't be any further advantage =) i like the app much, it makes stock rom more smooth, but not as smooth as 4.3
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What do you mean, 4.3? You mean Android 4.3? I got 4.1.2 and of course have OTA shut off because I don't want to lose root. It seems harder and harder to root these things as they go up in version number. As if Motorola closes all the exploits. I am dying to update this to a newer version of Android. What kind of phone you have? Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912?
You got a good, rooted 4.3 ROM for it? Where? Does it come pre-rooted? Will it still be a Verizon phone after that? I love the Cyanogen Mods and use them on my Samsung Tab 2 10.1 GT-P5113 but I can use clockwork mod ROM MAnager on the tablet. CWM used to work on my Droid X but it bricks this thing pretty bad if I try it. Encryption Errror when booting, endless loop, have to re-ROM the phone all over again and it sucks! I installed Safestrap but never had the balls to see if it would actually recover the phone. I wanted to format my internal SD card and you can't with this thing. Instead of formatting, it does an "rm -rf" which is Linux talk for erase everything. I wanted it formatted to remove old partitions and Safestrap won;t even do that.
Tell me more dude, tell me more because I am drooling right about now!
Look in the dev section there are a lot of custom Roms, but before read about Bootmenu manager and safestrap, how to use them and all, then u r good to go:thumbup:
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DumbleCore said:
Look in the dev section there are a lot of custom Roms, but before read about Bootmenu manager and safestrap, how to use them and all, then u r good to go:thumbup:
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I know how to get into AP Fastboot and installed and backed up some with Safe Strap, but never did a restore with safestrap before. I am rooted, want to keep root, but not confident that safestrap actually works. Wonder what version I have?3.1.1 Says installed, but safe system not active. I need a good safestrap tutorial first, I think.
I love CM Mods, use on tablet. But also love Linux installs. My old quad core AMD never got the drivers right for this phone. I had to use a slow laptop for that. Now I got a Sandy Bridge 8 core PC, this would probably work, but still more comfortable with Linux.
Android 4.3 is a nightly, still has bugs. I want a stable version because I really need this phone and cannot do "without the camera" or HP jack and audio not working right, etc. Maybe 4.1 would be the way to go. Who's ROM is this anyway? I keep a copy of it in case I wax the phone, I have to install ROM and gapps, then root the thing with razblade. All in one nice package.
Yeah, this is what I use, all in one nice package:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192467
So if 4.3 is buggy, I should do 4.2 instead, no? What do you think? What is broken in 4.3 and do you have any links? Thanks.
Getting the hang of this
Alright, all of you wonderful people helped me a real lot today. Sometimes I come here for answers and if they are not here, they are no where. But, sometimes nobody will bother to answer. I got good help this time and learned some new stuff.
Greenify really is champ. It has cut the wait time for app opening dramatically, where task killers did not as the app would reopen the moment it was closed.
A newer version of Jelly Bean would be most helpful. I am currently running 4.1.2 that installs from the AP Fastboot menu via USB and Linux PC shell script. It worked well but then I had to root it and have not updated since because I do not want to lose root.
I learned more on how to use Safe Strap. I have it installed already and now know how to properly make and restore backups.
I learned how much easier it would be to install a new ROM and gapps with Safe Strap, pretty much as easy as CWM, which we all know, will brick our razr phones. (Well, you cannot totally brick them since the AP Fastboot menu is still available when the dreaded encryption error comes due to using CWN, so a new ROM can be installed via drivers in Linux or Windows)
I now have the Cyenogen Mod 10.2 for Jelly Bean 4.3 for Droid Razr phones and he associated gapps for 4.3, plus the update.zip file on my ext-sdcard to perform this upgrade. Best part is if this works as it shold, I could use Safe Strap to return my phone to usable and nice until I get the time to thoroghly test 4.3 and customize it with all my apps and decorations.
I relearned how to create and use update.zip with Titanium Backup so once the new ROM and gapps are installed, I can then flash update zip to my phone to allow Titanium Backup Pro to reinstall all of my apps, even the ones that did not come from google such as ad free.
This is a good thread so I will post back here with results when I have them, others with experience or questions of this natre please chime in.
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Try slim rom or carbon rom, the most stable 4.3 Roms for me with JBX kernel
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DumbleCore said:
Try slim rom or carbon rom, the most stable 4.3 Roms for me with JBX kernel
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Where do you find these ROMS dude? I was looking at CM10.2 and that sounded pretty good. I still want a fully functional phone where everything works. Are these stripped down or something? If Safe Strap does what it should, this would be easy like using CWM. Then, I could Safe Strap back to old ROM to use phone until I get done setting up new ROM or ditching it.
thats right, we have dual-boot on our RAZRs also with BMM!
you could have a "safe" Slot 1 and a testing Slot 2.
the ROMS you are looking for are in the DEV section too
Firex2 said:
thats right, we have dual-boot on our RAZRs also with BMM!
you could have a "safe" Slot 1 and a testing Slot 2.
the ROMS you are looking for are in the DEV section too
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Yeah, dual boot,l this is so cool! That is how CWM used to work and you could format your internal SD card space w/clockwork. Safe Strap does not work to format the internal card. When I first put in JB, I had like NO internal card space, just plain gone! One dude on here figured it out, use CWM to go format the internal SD card, wait for Google to put back your apps, and in like 45 minuted, the tablet was good again and all my stuff came back, PLUS all the space I lost when I installed JB. It just left all the old stuff on the card and made the partitions invisible so a 16Gb card only had like 4Gb of space. Safe Strap does not format internal SD cards, it uses some fake "rm -rf" command that does not format and cannot be unchecked from the options.
Installed cyanogen 10.2, 4.3, and now have no data connection.
Ohmster said:
Where do you find these ROMS dude? I was looking at CM10.2 and that sounded pretty good. I still want a fully functional phone where everything works. Are these stripped down or something? If Safe Strap does what it should, this would be easy like using CWM. Then, I could Safe Strap back to old ROM to use phone until I get done setting up new ROM or ditching it.
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Hey I just installed Cyanogen 10.2 4.3 and this is pretty slick.Everything seems to work and it is NICE. BUT, major problem here. I do have a Verizon phone, can make and receive calls, have the signal bars, but there is no 4G, 3G or whatever data icon on the phone. Anything I try for data will use wireless only. The data connection to the phone is lost. Is there anyway to restore it or am I just using a bad ROM for Verizon?
Dam, this all went so well too, but I have unlimited data and if I cannot use data, what good is it? I can reboot with Safe Strap and go back to stock and everything is fine. But boot back to 4.3 Cyanogen, and data for the phone is lost.
Somebody please help me!
3G/4G is a known bug on 4.3.1 Roms on CDMA, I think u have to use 10.1.3 build from CM for working data
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Hello,
My HOnor 5x has been very laggy. I have a tasker task setup to launch Pandora each time I launch Maps. The phone responds very slowly. There are several other apps too where the phone is very very laggy. I have set it up in performance mode but it is still very slow. Anything else I can do about this other than getting a Oneplus 3?
Have you tried a reboot? Oneplus 3 is a High End phone 5x a Mid End with a Low End CPU..
salilsurendran said:
Hello,
My HOnor 5x has been very laggy. I have a tasker task setup to launch Pandora each time I launch Maps. The phone responds very slowly. There are several other apps too where the phone is very very laggy. I have set it up in performance mode but it is still very slow. Anything else I can do about this other than getting a Oneplus 3?
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My own Honor 5X is noticably laggy, more so since installing Marshmallow 6.0.1 (also rooted) but not ready to revert back to Lollipop just yet until first completely combing thru every item (or tweak) i might have missed.
The lag i experience is not always persistent just occasional but more often at different stages of usage.
My old HAM 2 with the JellyBelly Android is super snappy in comparison but then the HAM 2 also sports a most formidable powerpack in the battery rating. That battery alone is almost the size of this Honor 5X and is still quite the workhorse.
But i'm determined to maximize Honor 5X (Marshmallow) to it's absolute fullest!
Mirror-Mirror said:
My own Honor 5X is noticably laggy, more so since installing Marshmallow 6.0.1 (also rooted) but not ready to revert back to Lollipop just yet until first completely combing thru every item (or tweak) i might have missed.
The lag i experience is not always persistent just occasional but more often at different stages of usage.
My old HAM 2 with the JellyBelly Android is super snappy in comparison but then the HAM 2 also sports a most formidable powerpack in the battery rating. That battery alone is almost the size of this Honor 5X and is still quite the workhorse.
But i'm determined to maximize Honor 5X (Marshmallow) to it's absolute fullest!
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Keep it Stock.. 'Those tweaks make it worse' marshmallow is alot smoother then lollipop.
Unlock the bootloader and flash CM13, it's almost a new phone, no more lags, much better RAM management !
mooms said:
Unlock the bootloader and flash CM13, it's almost a new phone, no more lags, much better RAM management !
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Cool. Is everything working in CM13?
- Is vibrator intensity adjustable? (The stock vibration is so weak compared to my Moto E)
- Fingerprint reader
- External storage? (SD support in CM13 on other devices is very bad)
- Yes (with build 20160726 and newer).
- Yes.
- Yes, even adoptable storage is working.
EMUI is laggy, and probably always will be. As long as you're using a Stock ROM, this will be an issue.
Cm13 with FP working is best thing ever on Honor 5X. NO Lag at all! Totally different phone now. Music is better. Ringtones and notifications. This is not my opinion. Its a fact.lol.
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And if you like One plus phone here is how the theme is. Just make sure to update to official MM stock ROM and then go to newest nightly build of CM13. Its easy to flash.
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what is FP?
cyrusalmighty said:
Cm13 with FP working is best thing ever on Honor 5X. NO Lag at all! Totally different phone now. Music is better. Ringtones and notifications. This is not my opinion. Its a fact.lol. View attachment 3827730
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what is FP?
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FP is Fingerprint sensor. And it works even better on CM13 then on EMUI somehow.
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salilsurendran said:
Hello,
My HOnor 5x has been very laggy. I have a tasker task setup to launch Pandora each time I launch Maps. The phone responds very slowly. There are several other apps too where the phone is very very laggy. I have set it up in performance mode but it is still very slow. Anything else I can do about this other than getting a Oneplus 3?
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Hello salilsurendran;67891416,
Thank you for choosing the Honor 5X. We're terribly sorry that your 5X is lagging. What we can advise is shutting off your 5X for 15-20 seconds and then turning it back on. This should refresh your device. Also, if you go into your "Settings" and type in "cache" in the "Search for setting", a tab for "cache data" should pop up. Click it and then go into "Storage cleaner". The program will run and after it's completed, your device should run smoother. If these tips don't help, please give our Honor Support Team a call at 1-844-524-6667 so we can provide further assistance. Thanks for your interest. We appreciate you.(ED)
FingerPrint sensor
When I decided to go stock on this device, I initially used a TWRP image from here somewhere... to go from custom ROM that shall not be spoken of, to stock EMUI M.
It was laggy as all hell.
So, I reverted back to my previous custom ROM using a TWRP backup.
When I decided to try again, I used the DLOAD folder and UPDATE.APP method.
I am still running stock EMUI M. Doing it this way, I have nearly zero lag (on occasion, it happens regardless as to the device in use), and all features are working at least as good as on L.
My suggestion is to start all over again if M is laggy on your Honor 5x. You may have missed a wipe, your SD card could have old files interfering... the list goes on and on...
When in doubt, start all over again.
Ok i'm rooted now and all that Jazz (Thank You Huawei Home for unlock code) plus it went off without so much as a hitch installing TWRP (Very Useful Backups) and SuperSU "AFTER" first doing a easy peasey dload UPDATE.APP to Android Marshmallow!
I ripped the lag out by doing the basics like Huawei_Eric suggests with clearing out via Phone Manager but more importantly using PURITY that although it runs as a process it keeps tabs on apps that might be pulling more than they should which can cause lag.
So now this Huawei Honor 5X is running and here is/was my order of things ok?
(1) Updated perfectly to Marshamallow via UPLOAD.APP
"Discovered some lag after MM update but eventually smoothed out".
(2) Obtained the required device bootloadercode from Huawei Home courtesy their code unlock page
(3) Did the adb routine to unlock bootloader and installed TWRP + SuperSU and made a first backup.
*Of Note* Microsoft Windows 8, 8.1, etc. caused and causes a lot of people problems with getting Android Drivers properly installed and here is one HUGE PROBLEM that can cause you drivers not to take even when you have the right ones!!
Check under your Windows Services and RESTART THESE SERVICES to "Running" in order for your Android Composite and/or other android drivers to install as expected.
(1) Device Install Service
(2) Device Setup Manager
(3) System Events Broker
Even after installing the android drivers and my system recognizing my Honor 5X and/or MT2-L03 the next time i tried to do routine browsing of Internal/SD Card in Windows 8.0 i found the Exclamation back under Device Manager and MTP/android device. Seems we have to SET THOSE SERVICES TO AUTOMATIC and make sure they are ALL RUNNING.
Now on the Windows 8.1 laptops i use they do stay put the first time after INSTALL so i'm just sharing this as a help in case you also run into this SILLY MICROSOFT issue only.
It's not YOU, it's not those android drivers for your DEVICE, and it's not your system, it's MICROSOFT's little quirky ordeal. I actually surfed for days for a solution to this issue and guess where i evetually found it at? In a Microsoft issue's forum. Duh.
Some replies to members who can't seem to get their drivers installed so they can use adb as intended or even to just BROWSE their Smartphone's Storage(s) was suggested to do a System Restore etc. which won't work anyway if those above SERVICES aren't running at the time you're doing a UPDATE DRIVER and even pointing to the exact DRIVER FOLDERS for your android/device.
Hope this helps a little for someone who had no idea why the heck they can't get their computer to recognize their device, update their appropriate android/MPT drivers etc.
emui is very laggy and Awful. just try cm13 and ur phone will be superb!
Demian3112 said:
Keep it Stock.. 'Those tweaks make it worse' marshmallow is alot smoother then lollipop.
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Thanks for that tip.
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mooms said:
Unlock the bootloader and flash CM13, it's almost a new phone, no more lags, much better RAM management !
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Anything else you might like to add about CM13 for Honor 5X?
You read a whole lot of favor over CM13 but some of us like to pick things apart too.
Especially the useful benefits!
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HonorUSA_Eric said:
Hello salilsurendran;67891416,
Thank you for choosing the Honor 5X. We're terribly sorry that your 5X is lagging. What we can advise is shutting off your 5X for 15-20 seconds and then turning it back on. This should refresh your device. Also, if you go into your "Settings" and type in "cache" in the "Search for setting", a tab for "cache data" should pop up. Click it and then go into "Storage cleaner". The program will run and after it's completed, your device should run smoother. If these tips don't help, please give our Honor Support Team a call at 1-844-524-6667 so we can provide further assistance. Thanks for your interest. We appreciate you.(ED)
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Thank You HonorUSA_Eric.
Hopefully that helps OP's lag issue also but allow me to say it would been nice if Huawei could have stuffed a 4000mah Mate-type monster batter in Honor 5X too.
Wishful thinking i know but my MATE 2 gets unheard of battery life and after 2 years of ALWAYS ON usage too!
How about making a 5-6000maH battery while you guys are at it?
You have the USB OTG , and the gyroscope working (only emulation for this one, the 5X lacks the hardware) and FM radio sound can be sent via Bluetooth. They won't works on stock ROM (software limitation except for gyro).
Also, CM13 have much more configurations options, which is great, and the UI is better to my eyes.
Battery life is also really great.
But you should try yourself.
For CM13 do I need to upgrade my phone to Marshmellow? Thanks
Hi forum!
I have a good ol' galaxy tab 10.1. And it's horrible. Super slow, Chrome won't run, constant "unfortunately ___ has stopped", for some reason Hangouts keeps attempting to run and stops. It's pretty close to unusable. Is it possible to save it?
I'm a newb (I've rooted and installed custom roms in the past, but nothing in the last 3 years or so, so I'm pretty much back to start).
Details:
Android version 4.2.2.
kernel 3.1.10-cyanogenmod
AOKP p4wifi_unofficial_Mar-16-13
The reason I haven't bought a new one is because I use it so infrequently. I've got the S7 and it does just about everything I need, but every once in awhile it would be nicer to have a bigger screen. So I don't really want to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on a new tablet if I can salvage this one for the rare occasion I use it. The reason I dragged it out this time was to edit a video, so it would be nice if I could do that (powerdirector doesn't support this version). Beyond that it would probably just be a movie player for road trips with the kid... Or if anyone has any other suggestions what to do with it, I'm open!
Any help is greatly appreciated! I'd hate to see it go!
No, never let go I've got 7.1.1 Nougat running well with the latest update. A bit laggy but not too much, and stable so far.
The trick is it will autoupdate to an incompatible version of Google Play services (and some other gapps) - unless you take the right steps as shown in this thread (check the first 2 posts and the last few pages of posts).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-10-1/development/rom-android-7-0-nougat-t3471350
NB The gapps recommended in the orig post wouldn't flash for me. I used open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20170119.zip
from
https://github.com/opengapps/arm/releases/tag/20170119
Once you stop autoupdates in Play Store and roll back to the last compatible versions of some major google apps, it runs great for most ordinary purposes. My Sygic app is working properly again too.
Sure it's a bit of work and it was a bit confusing for me working out how to get the right version of Google Play services installed, but I found it very rewarding and worthwhile. There's a couple more of its nine lives yet imo. Was a great choice of tablet.
(I can't speak for hangouts though; I don't use it.)
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No, never let go I've got 7.1.1 Nougat running well with the latest update. A bit laggy but not too much, and stable so far.
The trick is it will autoupdate to an incompatible version of Google Play services (and some other gapps) - unless you take the right steps as shown in this thread (check the first 2 posts and the last few pages of posts).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-10-1/development/rom-android-7-0-nougat-t3471350
NB The gapps recommended in the orig post wouldn't flash for me. I used open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20170119.zip
from
https://github.com/opengapps/arm/releases/tag/20170119
Once you stop autoupdates in Play Store and roll back to the last compatible versions of some major google apps, it runs great for most ordinary purposes. My Sygic app is working properly again too.
Sure it's a bit of work and it was a bit confusing for me working out how to get the right version of Google Play services installed, but I found it very rewarding and worthwhile. There's a couple more of its nine lives yet imo. Was a great choice of tablet.
(I can't speak for hangouts though; I don't use it.)
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Well that's annoying - I subscribed to the thread but it never told me that someone was kind enough to reply!!
Well here's an update in case you're curious: I've bricked it. I tried to flash it back to stock and now it's stuck in a bootloop *sigh*
So, if I can ever get it out of that state I'll give your suggestions a try. Thanks so much for posting!
Holy crap I saved it! But it's runnig Android 3.2 LOL
So I'm going to see about getting JellyBam on there, it looks to be pretty stable.
I've just been trying to decide what to do with mine,
I have ASOP 5.1.1 but always get 'Google Play Services has stopped' so want to find a version that I can just put on and leave it on without having to do anythign too technical
Did you try the link that rubbercorners posted?
I'll take a look
LincolnElectra said:
Holy crap I saved it! But it's runnig Android 3.2 LOL
So I'm going to see about getting JellyBam on there, it looks to be pretty stable.
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Did you end up giving up on it? I updated to a newer version of Nougat (same link I linked above) and it seems to have solved the Google Play Services crashing error. But you still need to use older versions of some apps, and Google Maps doesn't seem to work properly any more (I use Sygic navigation).
It also has some kind of 'Neon emulation' which slows down some apps.
Realistically, with this tablet, you have to be prepared to use workarounds for a bunch of things and for most people it's too much of a hassle, and very laggy with things like Google Now/Assistant or whatever it's called. I doubt you could use it for video editing, and youtube works at 480p max I think.
Having said that, I have it running well for what I use it for - Sygic navigation, occasional browsing, gmail etc. And I think it would run 720p movies okay if already downloaded (I haven't tried Netflix etc.)
I doubt running older ROMs like JellyBam would have any advantage over the latest Nougat (I could be wrong?). Surprisingly, Marshmallow and Nougat run less laggy than the older ROMs ever did for me (including the official ones).
I went with Jellybam but get an error with the keyboard AOSP so can't type anything at all
Now Google Play Services started crashing again. I will try to solve it again, but I might be getting to the point of just using this tablet for Sygic offline navigation.
*slaps myself for losing faith in my tablet*
The developer fixed Nougat again and it's working pretty pretty nicely for me (no Google Play Services crash). Remains to be seen whether anyone will try to get Oreo running on it (or if it's even possible), but I can see myself getting another year out of this ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-10-1/development/rom-android-7-0-nougat-t3471350
If anyone tries it, note:
- read the first few posts of the thread carefully
- install using TWRP 2.8.7.0 if it fails using TWRP 3
- turn off autoupdates (see thread).
- if you have problems with Google Play Services crashing (it updated itself to 11.5.17 and is running fine for me), try to find a way to install one of the earlier versions recommended there - maybe install the earlier gapps (P7500-open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20170119.zip) and roll back/uninstall Google Play Services to the stock one if it autoupdates.
- there's an unfixable hardware bug where sometimes the battery drains with the power off. The workaround is to always shut down the tablet by rebooting into TWRP recovery and power off there. (This bug has apparently always been in this tablet, but it shows up more in later Android versions.)
- if tablet doesn't power up, hold the power button down for about 10 seconds
- I rooted using the phh SuperUser option (2 steps to this). Some people seem to be having trouble with the Magisk option.
seriously? ive had absolutely no issues with mine! I use it as a puzzle/game/ebook/reddit browser/ video player... nothing intensive and its a t-580 running 6.0.1 (Ultra Lean MM V6). Everything works (everything ive ever tried including magisk and xposed)...
Chiz511 said:
its a t-580...
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That's the much newer Galaxy Tab 10.1 A - different tablet This thread is about the 6-year old original iPad challenger that it has become a point of pride to keep going.