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I have a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912, Android 4.1.2, rooted. When I got this phone, what impressed me is the speed at which it ran. (1200Mhz 32bits Dual-Core). Before that, I had a Droid X, ran great for a year or two, then so slow it could take a minute or more before I could get the dialer up to make a phone call. Same thing with Google Maps, I would reach the destination before I could finally pull it up on Maps. I upgraded with Verizon to this new Razr Maxx. Very fast, very good. I installed Jellybean 4.1.2 and rooted it, use Titanium Backup, cannot use CWM ROM Manager anymore so I tried Safestrap.
Problem is that now this phone is over two years old and is doing the same thing. I have close to 400 apps from what Titanium tells me if I must restore. But these apps are set to update automatically and they seem to do so at a rapid pace. Every other day some group of apps has updated. Now the thing is too slow to be used as a phone most of the time or GPS navigation. I installed Micro CPU Monitor to see how busy this CPU is (Makes one pixel high lines across top of screen, one for each core) and most of the time, the CPU is pinned. What surprised me is how many apps just "run all the time" and not just when you want or need them. Many of the silly games do not exit, they run constantly although you do not see it. Could that be the problem? Too many apps running, too many updates requiring more and more power and memory?
How can I trim down the list of apps I want/need or at least make them NOT run unless I use them? I need to get some speed back on this phone, it is barely usable much of the time and do not have the money to buy new phones twice a year like Verizon wants me to. As it is, $150/Mo is too darned much money for a cell phone anyway. I have unlimited everything but not hotspot, I use Wireless Tether for Root Users for that.
How can I get this phone back up to speed again? Any help would be appreciated.
Try greenify, this let's u hibernate apps u don't need /want when screen is off, have nearly 200+ apps installed and most of them hibernated. That means, this apps will only run when start them, I think it's worth a try
Edit: U will get it in playstore and needs root, but u are
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Yes I had 250 apps and my phone was not that slow with greenify but I found I did not use like 40 of them lol so they were just taking up space.
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Yes I had 250 apps and my phone was not that slow with greenify but I found I did not use like 40 of them lol so they were just taking up space.
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Same here, just uninstalled useless stuff today, forgot some apps
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Try greenify, this let's u hibernate apps u don't need /want when screen is off, have nearly 200+ apps installed and most of them hibernated. That means, this apps will only run when start them, I think it's worth a try
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Oh dude, I just installed greenify and watchdog because they are supposed to help with this. I also go SetCPU. it lets you make rules for conditions on how much CPU speed you can allocate. For example, I want maps and navigation and phone to have full power, in my case that is 1- 1.2Ghz. When screen is blacked, I cut it down to 300-800Mhz to save battery. What is cool is the chart that shows how much time the CPU spends in each frequency range. 3/4 of the time it sits at 800Mhz.
Yes of course I am rooted. Best way to get free hotspot out of Verizon instead of paying $20/mo whether you use it or not. :good:
Greenify looks cool as hell and it gives you an app list but how do you use it? Let's take Twitter for example. I rarely if ever use it. Shows up as Scheduled Running (Since last startup). For Twitter to be useful, it has to run all the time to accept incoming tweets. Because I don't give a dam about Twitter but want to keep it around, how does Greenify make that baby hibernate? What do I have to do to make this happen? You can tap to hightlight and there is a check and some sort of camera looking icon on top of screen, what do you do to shut this puppy down? I have games that never quit, want them OFF when not in use, Facebook runs constantly but would be nice to make sure it is not a memory or CPU hog. Can u give some hints, tips, or instructions on how to use Greenify? (Maybe I can Google this.)
Oh I get it dude! I clicked Twitter and the camera looking icon and it disappeared from the Shows up as Scheduled Running (Since last startup) list. I had to click "More Apps" to find it way down in the list. This time I clicked it and hit the check and it is now hibernating until I want to use it. This is AWESOME dude, you got my thanks for this tip. I am going to dig deeper into this now. Thanks!
Edit: There is such an awesome list in Greenify that this is awesome. I have been using task killers but the dammed task comes right back after killed so this is better, hibernate that stuff. So cool! Okay, so I want to test this out and make sure it really does not destroy anything important. I hibernated RoboForm (Awesome password manager that syncs with my other PCs) and it is NOT running anymore. Yet, when tapped, it goes right to work immediately. I can sync it anytime I feel the need but since it is not running yet still works just fine, this really is one awesome app! Hmmm, I just checked APPS and Roboform is running, but I did just use it. I checked Greenify again to see if it is still hibernated, and it is now listed as "Pending". I clicked the little "i" icon for more information and it tells me that Roboform is running for a short time but will hibernate again when the screen times out. Le's try it and see. Letting screen black out, giving it time to pass the 5 second grace period, and will check hibernation status of Roboform again.
Hmmm, I waited about 3-5 minuted and Roboform was still pending hibernation. There really are not settings I can find in Greenify to shorten the pending hibernation time. Maybe a pay version but I cannot find it. I can immediately put it back to sleep in Greenify, but there should be a setting for how long it should be pending. Once I am done with it, I rarely use it again immediately so would like this puppy to sleep right away. Facebok is another one that runs all over the phone. I want messenger active so I leave it alone. But to have the main app running constantly is ridiculous. This Greenify is a great start and many Editor's Choice awards, but without a settings menu, I can't give it 5 stars. Still great stuff, thanks again.
Edit 2: How to enable all the cool stuff in Greenify Donation Version menu
There is a "Donate Version" costs $2.99 with more features. This thing is worth 3 bucks, I just bought it and installed it. Oh, yeah, you get Experimental Features in the Donate Version but must install Xposed Framework to use it. It is free but must have rooted phone to install it. I just installed it, then have to open the installer and "install it to the phone". Reboot required. Then open the framwork installer again, click Modules, and put check mark into Greenify checkbox. Reboot again.
Yeah, you get some cool stuff in the pay version. I like it and think it is worth the 3 bucks. I like this, a boosted performance version, ability to wake up push message programs like Skype, Facebook Messenger, or anything like that. What the hell, buy the guy a cup of Joe for 3 bucks, it is worth it if you got the money. But the free version really is good enough, the extra stuff here is not essential but nice to have. Here is what you get:
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Last thing, here is a cool tip for Titanium Backup users.
If you have more than one Android device, buy a pay app, and "want to try it out on another device without having to buy it again", make a backup in Titanium Backup, export the backup to something easy to access like Dropbox, open your other device, open dropbox, and restore the app and data. You get the pay version on the other device and can then "try before you buy". This works most of the time. It may not work on everything, but so far I have not found one yet where it does not work.
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Same here, just uninstalled useless stuff today, forgot some apps
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You know, that is my problem too. I have a lot of apps and really do use them and like them, just not all the time. I am an electronic tech and some of the really good electronic apps are super, but I do not use them often. tydiamond11 is right, using Greenify it will put the crap you do not use all the time or consider essential to run constantly into hibernation. That means they do not run and use CPU, or use memory. But they still work when you click them. This would solve a huge part of this problem, I did install Greenify and am using it now. Just figured out how to use it when tydiamond11 replied how much it helped him. I just tested it, it shows a list of all your stuff, if it is running in background, foreground, and other important information on it. I do not use Twitter hardly at all but it must run all the time to receive incoming Tweets. Since I don't give a rat's behind about Twitter for the most part but want it around, I sent that baby packing to the hibernation room. Now that I got it figured out, I will use this a lot and I be my performance should improve. I will post results here because this is my thread and I want not only answers, but help for others who have this problem so they can find it.
Try Greenify and hibernate a bunch of running crap that you do not need running all the time and see if it helps. Find it at the play store or on Google. I put a link for you in the app name. Come back and share your experience. Let's help each other and do not forget to click the "Thanks" button if something really does help you.
I didnt use greenify, juice defender, xposed etc, and my phone is fast, I just installed trickstermod, debloat the phone, convert some system apps to user apps with titanium backup and I have about 350-400+ mb of free ram on stock rom. Now I have slim bean 4.3.1, and have 250+ of free ram without greenify etc.....you should try debloat your rom and convert some apps to user apps...
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what is the advantage of converting system apps to user apps?
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what is the advantage of converting system apps to user apps?
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Because you cannot shut off or Greenify system apps. They are considered essential so they are not allowed to be shut off of hibernated. BUT. a lot of carriers will put their own bloatware into system apps so you cannot shut them off like Verizon VZ Navigator, which is the same thing as Google Maps (free) and not as good. Titanium Backup will allow you to freeze or remove bloatware like this and making it a system app, allows task manager and Greenify to kill them or hibernate them. Even Faebook was a system app and I could not Greenify it and make it go to sleep. But the $3 Greenify allows you to insist and hibernate it, plus it will wake it up if you get a messages sent to the app. Facebook can be pretty annoying, besides running all the time, it pops and makes alerts for the most stupid stuff ever. "Chris Santoro is playing Farmville and invited ou to play." Or someone I know vaguely from school will be constantly posting pictures of their kids whom I have never met or will meet. I do not need these notifications constantly. I will check Facebook when I am ready and see what there is to see. With Grenify donate version, I now have Facebook hibernating and not bugging me with this nonsense anymore, and it works just as well as it did before.
I am seeing a Big improvement with Greenify already. I hibernated Google Maps until I need them and my load went way down on the phone. Maps and Chrome browser are already system apps so you cannot Greenify them without the donate version of Greenify. It was well worth the 3 bucks for the pay version.
i bought Greenify month ago, so there wouldn't be any further advantage =) i like the app much, it makes stock rom more smooth, but not as smooth as 4.3
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i bought Greenify month ago, so there wouldn't be any further advantage =) i like the app much, it makes stock rom more smooth, but not as smooth as 4.3
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What do you mean, 4.3? You mean Android 4.3? I got 4.1.2 and of course have OTA shut off because I don't want to lose root. It seems harder and harder to root these things as they go up in version number. As if Motorola closes all the exploits. I am dying to update this to a newer version of Android. What kind of phone you have? Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912?
You got a good, rooted 4.3 ROM for it? Where? Does it come pre-rooted? Will it still be a Verizon phone after that? I love the Cyanogen Mods and use them on my Samsung Tab 2 10.1 GT-P5113 but I can use clockwork mod ROM MAnager on the tablet. CWM used to work on my Droid X but it bricks this thing pretty bad if I try it. Encryption Errror when booting, endless loop, have to re-ROM the phone all over again and it sucks! I installed Safestrap but never had the balls to see if it would actually recover the phone. I wanted to format my internal SD card and you can't with this thing. Instead of formatting, it does an "rm -rf" which is Linux talk for erase everything. I wanted it formatted to remove old partitions and Safestrap won;t even do that.
Tell me more dude, tell me more because I am drooling right about now!
Look in the dev section there are a lot of custom Roms, but before read about Bootmenu manager and safestrap, how to use them and all, then u r good to go:thumbup:
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Look in the dev section there are a lot of custom Roms, but before read about Bootmenu manager and safestrap, how to use them and all, then u r good to go:thumbup:
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I know how to get into AP Fastboot and installed and backed up some with Safe Strap, but never did a restore with safestrap before. I am rooted, want to keep root, but not confident that safestrap actually works. Wonder what version I have?3.1.1 Says installed, but safe system not active. I need a good safestrap tutorial first, I think.
I love CM Mods, use on tablet. But also love Linux installs. My old quad core AMD never got the drivers right for this phone. I had to use a slow laptop for that. Now I got a Sandy Bridge 8 core PC, this would probably work, but still more comfortable with Linux.
Android 4.3 is a nightly, still has bugs. I want a stable version because I really need this phone and cannot do "without the camera" or HP jack and audio not working right, etc. Maybe 4.1 would be the way to go. Who's ROM is this anyway? I keep a copy of it in case I wax the phone, I have to install ROM and gapps, then root the thing with razblade. All in one nice package.
Yeah, this is what I use, all in one nice package:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192467
So if 4.3 is buggy, I should do 4.2 instead, no? What do you think? What is broken in 4.3 and do you have any links? Thanks.
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Alright, all of you wonderful people helped me a real lot today. Sometimes I come here for answers and if they are not here, they are no where. But, sometimes nobody will bother to answer. I got good help this time and learned some new stuff.
Greenify really is champ. It has cut the wait time for app opening dramatically, where task killers did not as the app would reopen the moment it was closed.
A newer version of Jelly Bean would be most helpful. I am currently running 4.1.2 that installs from the AP Fastboot menu via USB and Linux PC shell script. It worked well but then I had to root it and have not updated since because I do not want to lose root.
I learned more on how to use Safe Strap. I have it installed already and now know how to properly make and restore backups.
I learned how much easier it would be to install a new ROM and gapps with Safe Strap, pretty much as easy as CWM, which we all know, will brick our razr phones. (Well, you cannot totally brick them since the AP Fastboot menu is still available when the dreaded encryption error comes due to using CWN, so a new ROM can be installed via drivers in Linux or Windows)
I now have the Cyenogen Mod 10.2 for Jelly Bean 4.3 for Droid Razr phones and he associated gapps for 4.3, plus the update.zip file on my ext-sdcard to perform this upgrade. Best part is if this works as it shold, I could use Safe Strap to return my phone to usable and nice until I get the time to thoroghly test 4.3 and customize it with all my apps and decorations.
I relearned how to create and use update.zip with Titanium Backup so once the new ROM and gapps are installed, I can then flash update zip to my phone to allow Titanium Backup Pro to reinstall all of my apps, even the ones that did not come from google such as ad free.
This is a good thread so I will post back here with results when I have them, others with experience or questions of this natre please chime in.
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Try slim rom or carbon rom, the most stable 4.3 Roms for me with JBX kernel
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Try slim rom or carbon rom, the most stable 4.3 Roms for me with JBX kernel
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Where do you find these ROMS dude? I was looking at CM10.2 and that sounded pretty good. I still want a fully functional phone where everything works. Are these stripped down or something? If Safe Strap does what it should, this would be easy like using CWM. Then, I could Safe Strap back to old ROM to use phone until I get done setting up new ROM or ditching it.
thats right, we have dual-boot on our RAZRs also with BMM!
you could have a "safe" Slot 1 and a testing Slot 2.
the ROMS you are looking for are in the DEV section too
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thats right, we have dual-boot on our RAZRs also with BMM!
you could have a "safe" Slot 1 and a testing Slot 2.
the ROMS you are looking for are in the DEV section too
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Yeah, dual boot,l this is so cool! That is how CWM used to work and you could format your internal SD card space w/clockwork. Safe Strap does not work to format the internal card. When I first put in JB, I had like NO internal card space, just plain gone! One dude on here figured it out, use CWM to go format the internal SD card, wait for Google to put back your apps, and in like 45 minuted, the tablet was good again and all my stuff came back, PLUS all the space I lost when I installed JB. It just left all the old stuff on the card and made the partitions invisible so a 16Gb card only had like 4Gb of space. Safe Strap does not format internal SD cards, it uses some fake "rm -rf" command that does not format and cannot be unchecked from the options.
Installed cyanogen 10.2, 4.3, and now have no data connection.
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Where do you find these ROMS dude? I was looking at CM10.2 and that sounded pretty good. I still want a fully functional phone where everything works. Are these stripped down or something? If Safe Strap does what it should, this would be easy like using CWM. Then, I could Safe Strap back to old ROM to use phone until I get done setting up new ROM or ditching it.
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Hey I just installed Cyanogen 10.2 4.3 and this is pretty slick.Everything seems to work and it is NICE. BUT, major problem here. I do have a Verizon phone, can make and receive calls, have the signal bars, but there is no 4G, 3G or whatever data icon on the phone. Anything I try for data will use wireless only. The data connection to the phone is lost. Is there anyway to restore it or am I just using a bad ROM for Verizon?
Dam, this all went so well too, but I have unlimited data and if I cannot use data, what good is it? I can reboot with Safe Strap and go back to stock and everything is fine. But boot back to 4.3 Cyanogen, and data for the phone is lost.
Somebody please help me!
3G/4G is a known bug on 4.3.1 Roms on CDMA, I think u have to use 10.1.3 build from CM for working data
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Hey all,
I've recently rooted and I'm loving it. Quick background, I've recently rooted using the erisuser1 tutorial at android forums (VERY VERY helpful thank you!). I demo'd a few different ROMs, and decided I really wanted to keep some SenseUI feel, so ended up with xtrSense 4.2. It's worked really well for me, but I may be trying more in the near future (recommendations are welcome!). After the load, I've also utilized SetCPU for OC'ing, which was the main impetus for rooting. Has that ever made a difference! However, the question remains, what next? First, there are a couple things I know I want to do...
1. Remove stock apps: xtrSense did a nice job of removing a lot of bloatware from the OS, but some still remain, i.e. Amazon MP3 and teeter. It seems the xtrSense ROM included scripts for use in GScript to remove these, but I have yet to get them to work when following the steps outlined in the xtrSense post here at XDA. Has anyone had success using this method? If not, shouldn't the mere fact that I have root give me access to removing these programs via another method? What other apps/processes are used to remove stock apps once root is achieved? Any help would be awesome.
2. A2SD, C2SD & C2C: Does anyone use these processes? If so, how has it been achieved? Again, it seems the xtrSense 4.2 ROM included scripts for use in GScript to added this functionality, but I have never seen an increase in internal memory after using the scripts. I have undertaken the prereq that is partitioning my SD card, and have yet to see any success. Have others been successful using this or another process to achieve A2SD, C2SD or C2C? If so, how? Also, are there any cons to doing any of these? Any help in this regard would be MUCH appreciated.
3. What have YOU done post-root? I'm very very happy with what root, ROM and OC has done for the speed and battery life of my phone. However, I'm certain there are a million more tweaks that can be done to improve the speed and user experience of this cool little device, and I would be love to hear what others have done to further enjoy using the Droid Eris. What are your recommendations? Feel free to let me know!
Ok, any help in these areas would be really appreciated. Thanks for reading through this long post, and know that I am also happy to share any knowledge in regards to the steps I have already taken to get to this point.
Thank you!
Make the rom your own! mess with the theme, install bootanimations, make your own boot.
Change the splash screen (skateboard screen) don't be afraid to mess with the system just make sure you do nandroid backups. Try to figure how to add the features by yourself, struggle with it a little, that's always fun. Follow a few tutorials, like when I was starting there wasn't much documentation on how to enable a2sd by changing the boot.img so I had fun figuring that out.
Hope this gives you a few ideas ;p
Edit: if you going to be messing with phone I would suggest adding a linux partition to your computer if you are a windows person. Makes your life easier no need to worry about drivers etc
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Agree, wholeheartedly! I've been rooted since July, and have learned a lot using this forum. It's great to be able to change the boot logo screen, boot animations, etc. You can also improve battery life, increase speed, etc. After root, it's like having a new phone, and you have a greater sense of control over your device each time you learn something new. Have fun!
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1. Remove stock apps: xtrSense did a nice job of removing a lot of bloatware from the OS, but some still remain, i.e. Amazon MP3 and teeter. It seems the xtrSense ROM included scripts for use in GScript to remove these, but I have yet to get them to work when following the steps outlined in the xtrSense post here at XDA. Has anyone had success using this method? If not, shouldn't the mere fact that I have root give me access to removing these programs via another method? What other apps/processes are used to remove stock apps once root is achieved? Any help would be awesome.
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I don't know what to tell you, as removing stock applications with zach.xtr's Gscript process has always worked flawlessly for me. You may want to upgrade to the new xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that is out (you can find it by browser the more recent posts at the end of the xtrSENSE thread--Zach posted a link).
All I can say is that, when using Gscripts, make sure that you have "Needs SU?" checked. Aside from that, you just need to load Zach's scripts into Gscripts. After you load the scripts, have you pressed them? Just because you've loaded them into Gscripts doesn't mean they've run. You actually need to press on them to run them.
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2. A2SD, C2SD & C2C: Does anyone use these processes? If so, how has it been achieved? Again, it seems the xtrSense 4.2 ROM included scripts for use in GScript to added this functionality, but I have never seen an increase in internal memory after using the scripts. I have undertaken the prereq that is partitioning my SD card, and have yet to see any success. Have others been successful using this or another process to achieve A2SD, C2SD or C2C? If so, how? Also, are there any cons to doing any of these? Any help in this regard would be MUCH appreciated.
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I've used all of them at various points in time--I used to use A2SD and C2SD, but ever since C2C was developed I've had no need. In xtrSENSE4.2, I'm pretty sure C2C is enabled by default. So, you don't need to worry about it UNLESS you're running low on disk space. If you're running low, how many apps do you have installed (you should be able to store ~100 with C2C)?
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3. What have YOU done post-root? I'm very very happy with what root, ROM and OC has done for the speed and battery life of my phone. However, I'm certain there are a million more tweaks that can be done to improve the speed and user experience of this cool little device, and I would be love to hear what others have done to further enjoy using the Droid Eris. What are your recommendations? Feel free to let me know!
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My recommendation would be NOT to use SetCPU. I've found that running both of Zach's Gscripts for Max and Min CPU Speed has worked better--you won't need to wait for SetCPU to load up, be granted Superuser Permission, and then adjust your clock settings on boot. Plus, you'll have one less process running at all times, increasing performance.
Additionally, you may want to take a look at the xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that I mentioned previously. New, in that version, is the first ever inclusion of Collins_ph's Battery Tweak. Previously, it could only be used with Froyo ROMs. Enabling and configuring the utility will increase battery life because it gradually turns down the speed on your processor proportionally as your battery drains.
In terms of making the ROM "your own," I'd take a look in the Theme's thread. I can't provide you a list of everything that will work on xtrSENSE, but I can confirm that both the Minimal Matte Grey and Touch of Legend MetaMorph Themes do work for xtrSENSE. Also, you may want to check out LauncherPro (Plus), if you haven't already (www.launcherpro.com)... I absolutely love LauncherPro Plus, but I'm not "actively" using it. I'm really waiting on Fede to develop acceptable Photo and Music widgets to replace HTC's Sense Widgets (if anyone has suggestions on existing replacements, please let me know...). Having said that, I run a secondary "experimental" ROM on weekend--I run xtrROM with LauncherPro Plus. If you do decide to use LauncherPro, then I'd really recommend taking a look at xtrROM verses xtrSENSE.
Also, if you're a Sense fan, you might want to check out the newest version of KaosLegendary, V18. This is a port of a Tiawanese leaked version of HTC's forecoming Wildfire Sense UI. This is an Alpha Build at the moment and there are a few nagging issues, but it's neat just to use for half a day on the weekend to see how Froyo Sense will eventually pan out.
Finally, take a look at some of the Froyo ROMs that are built around CyanogenMod 6.0 (e.g. CELB Froyo; KaosFroyo; Tazz Froyo; and I think ShadowROM). Maybe you'll find that you like CyanogenMod better than Sense and stick with that?
Good luck!
P.S. In the future, you're probably better off posting something like this in the Q&A section.
I highly reccommend downloading Titanium and running a batch back up of all your apps and data. When you flash a new rom you can download Titanium again and restore your apps and settings (saves a lot of time if you become a flashaholic). Also grab Root Explorer. It's an app that allows you to access your sd card and your rom system. Wana change your boot animation? Save the file to your sd, open Root Explorer, copy it from the sd to data/local and reboot. Same goes for stock apps. Locate them and delete. Another valuable app is a terminal emulator. Open it up, type SU to obtain superuser permission, then a2sd check. This will tell you if a2sd is functioning correctly. Type a2sd help for a list of commands to use if it's not working.
Always Nand back up and you can flash any rom you want, play with it, screw it up, who cares....nand restore and you're back to point A. I highly reccommend trying a few Froyo roms. You'll need to partition your sd back to all fat32 or it wont recognize it. Froyo is faster than 2.1 and has a stock (somewhat different) a2sd. KaosLegendary is the only current Froyo rom with sense but it's fun to play with. WARNING - many users have bricked their phones using Clockwork. Some people love it but I'm afraid of it.
If you haven't already, try ADW or Launcher Pro. Once you decide you hate one and love the other (this will happen), you wont even miss sense.
Also download Metamorph and Busybox. You'll need these to theme your rom of choice (unless you find a flashable theme).
Now, put your phone down, get back to work, and for God's sake tell your wife you love her. You haven't even talked to her in weeks!!
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I highly reccommend downloading Titanium and running a batch back up of all your apps and data. When you flash a new rom you can download Titanium again and restore your apps and settings (saves a lot of time if you become a flashaholic).
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Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Perfectly explained, nice job sir. This should be in the rollup!! Too many people make the mistake of restoring sys data from a older rom to newer, have to watch that. Rollup
My article at http://jonsuh.com/2010/09/make-your-droid-eris-faster-smoother-and-increase-battery-life-how-to/ will give you a whole mess of ideas of what you can do post-root. Hope this article helps!
Remember, these are just my suggestions, they are not necessarily the law. Some may disagree with my suggestions, some may work well for you, other may not as well as one may think. They are just pointers to get you in the right direction
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I don't know what to tell you, as removing stock applications with zach.xtr's Gscript process has always worked flawlessly for me. You may want to upgrade to the new xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that is out (you can find it by browser the more recent posts at the end of the xtrSENSE thread--Zach posted a link).
All I can say is that, when using Gscripts, make sure that you have "Needs SU?" checked. Aside from that, you just need to load Zach's scripts into Gscripts. After you load the scripts, have you pressed them? Just because you've loaded them into Gscripts doesn't mean they've run. You actually need to press on them to run them.
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Ah, the tapping!! That did it. Also messed around (again) with titanium to get it to work, fig'd that out as well. Rookie mistakes...
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I've used all of them at various points in time--I used to use A2SD and C2SD, but ever since C2C was developed I've had no need. In xtrSENSE4.2, I'm pretty sure C2C is enabled by default. So, you don't need to worry about it UNLESS you're running low on disk space. If you're running low, how many apps do you have installed (you should be able to store ~100 with C2C)?
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Yes you're right C2C is default, I guess I'm just not certain if it's working. Apparently, there are two blocks on internal storage being used for apps in 4.2: /data/ and /cache/. I have 56mb free according to internal memory settings (/data/??) and 87.7 of 130mb used in /cache/ according to the report setting gscript Zach made. According to AppBrain I currently have 33 apps installed. 33 apps, ~100mb used already? Average of 3mb per app?? That just didn't seem right to me...maybe I'm just plain wrong. Opinions welcome!!
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My recommendation would be NOT to use SetCPU. I've found that running both of Zach's Gscripts for Max and Min CPU Speed has worked better--you won't need to wait for SetCPU to load up, be granted Superuser Permission, and then adjust your clock settings on boot. Plus, you'll have one less process running at all times, increasing performance.
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I may try that, although in full disclosure, my main reason for rooting and OC'ing was for running game console emulators. They run SO much better since OC'ing. I did try Zach's max out of the box (710 max?), but I find that my SetCPU main setting of 768,528 during normal usage makes operation even more smooth and especially works best when emulating. I want to OC even when battery is lowering until it gets to the condition threshold i set in SetCPU (amount or temp). But I still may try his scripts and lose SetCPU, thanks for the idea.
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In terms of making the ROM "your own," I'd take a look in the Theme's thread. I can't provide you a list of everything that will work on xtrSENSE, but I can confirm that both the Minimal Matte Grey and Touch of Legend MetaMorph Themes do work for xtrSENSE. Also, you may want to check out LauncherPro (Plus), if you haven't already I absolutely love LauncherPro Plus, but I'm not "actively" using it. I'm really waiting on Fede to develop acceptable Photo and Music widgets to replace HTC's Sense Widgets (if anyone has suggestions on existing replacements, please let me know...). Having said that, I run a secondary "experimental" ROM on weekend--I run xtrROM with LauncherPro Plus. If you do decide to use LauncherPro, then I'd really recommend taking a look at xtrROM verses xtrSENSE.
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So here's my questions with this: Don't apps like MetaMorph and Launcher run on top of everything that the ROM already has going on, thus adding another cumbersome running process to the already limited hardware? Wouldn't running this be akin to having two GUI's on the phone, or am I looking at this the wrong way? I'm assuming that's why you recommend switching to the more vanilla xtrROM, but maybe I'm off.
I also do badly want to try some additional ROM's once I have the time. The leaked Froyo with Sense ROM does sound intriguing and I may pursue that next.
Thanks for all the help, really appreciate the replies!
Will go the Q&A route next time too, thanks.
KarateExplosion6 said:
Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Great thank you both! I will take both of these posts into account when using Titanium before I go further down the ROM rabbit hole.
I recently upgraded to GSB v2.1 from my previously non-rooted bog standard Eris and am amazed by what I had been missing out for. I'm still pretty much a complete newbie to the whole custom ROM thing though, and have a few questions that may be quite stupid.
1) I'm getting force close crashes w/ the Facebook app. It'll load for a second and I'll see my news page, then force close comes up. Do I just need to reinstall or ... ? Edit: Facebook seems to be loading now, without force close issues. The problem was very repeatable (every time I tried to open the app!) last night, but seems gone today. Ah well, good riddance!
2) While trying to play a vid from Youtube, the sound is working flawlessly but the video doesn't seem to be advancing. I can move forward manually but all I get are still pictures from the video. This is using the browser that came with GSB; I haven't yet tried to get any other apps.
3) My wife's phone seriously needs this too, but she's leery of wiping her phone of apps. What's the best way to backup apps from a non-rooted Eris?
Thanks in advance for any answers you guys can provide!
Download titanium backup for the apps I'm new at this too I'm unsure about your problems with Facebook and YouTube did you wipe the dalvik cache?
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I did wipe the cache, although like I said, I haven't put any apps on here yet, so no harm in just wiping it all again and reflashing the rom to make sure it works. Thanks for the titanium backup tip!
No problem gsb is a great rom these Eris devs do awesome work I use gsb 2.0 no problems I'm trying Ginger tazz now I think battery life may be a little better but both are excellent. You should totally hook your wife's phone up too
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I recently upgraded to GSB v2.1 from my previously non-rooted bog standard Eris and am amazed by what I had been missing out for. I'm still pretty much a complete newbie to the whole custom ROM thing though, and have a few questions that may be quite stupid.
1) I'm getting force close crashes w/ the Facebook app. It'll load for a second and I'll see my news page, then force close comes up. Do I just need to reinstall or ... ? Edit: Facebook seems to be loading now, without force close issues. The problem was very repeatable (every time I tried to open the app!) last night, but seems gone today. Ah well, good riddance!
2) While trying to play a vid from Youtube, the sound is working flawlessly but the video doesn't seem to be advancing. I can move forward manually but all I get are still pictures from the video. This is using the browser that came with GSB; I haven't yet tried to get any other apps.
3) My wife's phone seriously needs this too, but she's leery of wiping her phone of apps. What's the best way to backup apps from a non-rooted Eris?
Thanks in advance for any answers you guys can provide!
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I think the Youtube thing is a known issue, and I'm guessing that it's just because Cyanogen Mod 7 isn't completely done yet, so maybe it'll be worked out over time.
caliberx said:
I did wipe the cache, although like I said, I haven't put any apps on here yet, so no harm in just wiping it all again and reflashing the rom to make sure it works. Thanks for the titanium backup tip!
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Just to let you know, you can wipe the Dalvik cache any time you want to, even after loading apps. It'll just longer to rebuild it when you reboot, but it can help solve issues sometimes.
Welcome to rooting!
That's great to hear! Well, it's not great that youtube doesn't work 100%, but at least it's not some weird problem particular to me. Lol.
I have to say, I really really have grown to like this ROM very fast. My wife is clamoring for it even knowing she's gonna lose all her apps. Any tips on how I set my contacts to import Facebook profile pics now? I did it before, but have no clue where that was or where it may have moved to now.
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That's great to hear! Well, it's not great that youtube doesn't work 100%, but at least it's not some weird problem particular to me. Lol.
I have to say, I really really have grown to like this ROM very fast. My wife is clamoring for it even knowing she's gonna lose all her apps. Any tips on how I set my contacts to import Facebook profile pics now? I did it before, but have no clue where that was or where it may have moved to now.
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best option i found for backing up my wife's apps before flashing from stock was to use "universal androot" to root (it is a software root so there is no rebooting or flashing or really any risk of loosing aps). then you can install titanium backup. it will even backup protected files since you have root. when titanium backup loads, hit menu->batch and pick the backup all new apps and newer versions. after flashing, load titanium backup, menu-> batch and pick restore all missing apps (i restored them with data, but many people have had to install the app only and then put back in the other info). FYI i rooted several (5) phones this way. if you install rom manager from the market and install a recovery (clockwork or amon's) from the rom manager, you can turn phone off, then hold vol down and power on to boot to recovery. from there you can wipe and flash. it is the easiest way to root and flash a new rom imho.
sorry figured i should answer your post i quoted. lol. if under menu-> accounts and sync->add account->facebook. input your info and select sync all or sync current contacts. it should pull in the information. if you have different names for people in your contacts and your facebook (ex "wife" in your contacts and "jane" on facebook) you can "sync all contacts" and manually link them. contacts->long press on contact->edit contact->menu->join. this should link you contacts with their facebook info. the facebook pics will sync it just takes a good bit of time sometimes.
So I have done some searching here, and really haven't found the information I am looking for.
I used to run an old HTC Imagio, and unlocked it. Wife was pissed because it pretty much never worked right after that.
Now I am runnning the Thunderbolt, have been since its release. I have also gotten the OTA update to 2.3.4. and now I am thinking whether I should or should not root.
All I keep hearing is tethering is now free, and its faster. So what I am asking is more of a sales pitch. I would love for someone to tell me really the advantages to rooting, how easy it really is, what I must have in order to properly use a rooted phone, which ROMs offer what customization, etc.
I currently use GoLauncher, and its pretty smooth for me. I like customization, changing screens, changing how the launcher looks (icons, screen transitions, etc). I also like to switch launchers from time to time, and have a cracked one that I can only use if rooted.
So as someone that is on the fence of rooting, I would like a good discussion on the pros and cons of rooting, especially on what really needs to be done (superuser, etc), I hear I have to install custom radios for both CDMA and the other, really? Those are the things I need to know before going into this, because the wife doesn't need to call me and it doesn't work, or text me and I never get or can send texts.
So hope I am not asking for too much.
Thanks!
Rooting the ThunderBolt is really easy. I used revolutionary www.revolutionary.io be sure to read everything before trying that method.
As for functionality, pretty much all the ROMs for the thunderbolt are very stable and have little to no bugs.
There are many different types of ROMs to choose from. You have Sense 2.1, sense 3.0, sense 3.5, miui, and aosp. Just browse the forums and see which you might like better. Also be aware that sense ROMs need sense kernels, and aosp and miui need aosp kernels.
I will tell you that tethering seems to work best on sense ROMs.
Since you have the 2.3.4 ota, you shouldn't need to flash any radios.
Hope this helps with your choice.
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Guys, another question regarding the "revolutionary" root method. There is a video and it shows that data (apps) are not deleted. Does that include contacts and other twitter and FB data?
Also, it indicates that you have to uninstall HTC Sync. When I reinstall it, will I have to reestablish connection to Outlook, or will it think nothing has happened to my phone?
I want this root to be as seamless as possible, so sync with outlook must be without a flaw.
And finally, if I do go this route, can anyone describe the different ROMS that are out there, what they offer, in terms of preinstalled apps, custimization, relative speed and ease of use, and level of bugginess or lack of bugginess.
Thanks again guys.
jerrya said:
Guys, another question regarding the "revolutionary" root method. There is a video and it shows that data (apps) are not deleted. Does that include contacts and other twitter and FB data?
Also, it indicates that you have to uninstall HTC Sync. When I reinstall it, will I have to reestablish connection to Outlook, or will it think nothing has happened to my phone?
I want this root to be as seamless as possible, so sync with outlook must be without a flaw.
And finally, if I do go this route, can anyone describe the different ROMS that are out there, what they offer, in terms of preinstalled apps, custimization, relative speed and ease of use, and level of bugginess or lack of bugginess.
Thanks again guys.
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Revolutionary does not root. All it does is give you S-OFF (disables rom signature checking by the bootloader. After using revolutionary you flash a small rom update (.zip file) that gives you the su binary and the superuser application (which controls the apps allowed to have root access, without it any app could call su without having to ask first). It might also install busybox. Note that installing a different ROM will delete all your data which is why after you root the first thing you should do is install Titanium Backup so you can back up everything (app data, system data such as contacts, installed apps, and even system apps). Btw, the Pro version of Titanium Backup is definitely worth the money. The ROM I use (Ginger_BreadRock_V2.6_(2.11.605.5)) is a deodexed and semi-debloated version of the latest official rom with visual voicemail and backup assistant manually added back in (I have the deodexed BA and VVM .apk files if you want them).
Other apps you might want after rooting: LBE Privacy Guard (lets you block apps from accessing private stuff like SMS Messages, contacts, IMEI/serial number, and GPS location), SetCPU or similar app (underclocking to 300MHz while the screen is off really helps battery life) and imoseyon's leankernel (be sure to get the gb sense one). With leankernel and that underclocking option set I can get three days of very light usage (a few bluetooth phone calls a day) before dropping below 15% power.
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Revolutionary does not root. All it does is give you S-OFF (disables rom signature checking by the bootloader. After using revolutionary you flash a small rom update (.zip file) that gives you the su binary and the superuser application (which controls the apps allowed to have root access, without it any app could call su without having to ask first). It might also install busybox. Note that installing a different ROM will delete all your data which is why after you root the first thing you should do is install Titanium Backup so you can back up everything (app data, system data such as contacts, installed apps, and even system apps). Btw, the Pro version of Titanium Backup is definitely worth the money. The ROM I use (Ginger_BreadRock_V2.6_(2.11.605.5)) is a deodexed and semi-debloated version of the latest official rom with visual voicemail and backup assistant manually added back in (I have the deodexed BA and VVM .apk files if you want them).
Other apps you might want after rooting: LBE Privacy Guard (lets you block apps from accessing private stuff like SMS Messages, contacts, IMEI/serial number, and GPS location), SetCPU or similar app (underclocking to 300MHz while the screen is off really helps battery life) and imoseyon's leankernel (be sure to get the gb sense one). With leankernel and that underclocking option set I can get three days of very light usage (a few bluetooth phone calls a day) before dropping below 15% power.
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I don't know what that deodex thing is, but I have heard that alot. I understand the debloated thing, thats always nice. I may have to wait until next december when my contract is up and I can renew. Might use that as a way to get the wife to let me root instead of buying a new phone.
She is very careful with her outlook, her contacts and calendar are her babies so to speak, so screwing that up is a big no no for me.
Thanks again for the information.
Revolutionary itself doesn't root our phone, by if you look, it gives you everything you need to root.
Deodex means there are no odex files, and in simple terms, it means the Rom is themable.
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If tethering is a major bonus and one of the main reasons you would like to root all you need to do is run revolutionary and install wifi tether. Running revo will not delete anything from your phone or change any of your currently set up applications. Your contacts will remain, twitter and facebook as well. It merely gains S-off and installs superuser so you can run rooted apps.
It is really hard to explain what the different roms have to offer since they all offer so much over stock. I hate verizons back up assistant so I just made sure all of my stuff is sync'd with google so once you sign back into your phone it will automatically reload calendar, contacts, wifi settings, etc...
Personally I enjoy sense based ROMs, others love AOSP. Currently I'm running Infectedrom.coms Eternity Sense 3.5 and absolutely love it.
Customization on most roms is the biggest reason I chose to root. Sick of my phone looking like everyone elses. It is nice to have another tbolt owner notice your sceen and get jealous
Just curious how would your phone mess up your wifes outlook contacts?
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If tethering is a major bonus and one of the main reasons you would like to root all you need to do is run revolutionary and install wifi tether. Running revo will not delete anything from your phone or change any of your currently set up applications. Your contacts will remain, twitter and facebook as well. It merely gains S-off and installs superuser so you can run rooted apps.
It is really hard to explain what the different roms have to offer since they all offer so much over stock. I hate verizons back up assistant so I just made sure all of my stuff is sync'd with google so once you sign back into your phone it will automatically reload calendar, contacts, wifi settings, etc...
Personally I enjoy sense based ROMs, others love AOSP. Currently I'm running Infectedrom.coms Eternity Sense 3.5 and absolutely love it.
Customization on most roms is the biggest reason I chose to root. Sick of my phone looking like everyone elses. It is nice to have another tbolt owner notice your sceen and get jealous
Just curious how would your phone mess up your wifes outlook contacts?
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Do you have a way of forcing your contacts and such to sync with google without having to re-enter your data from scratch?
Do this. Go to YouTube and search "how to root thunderbolt revolutionary". There's a few good follow-along-as-you-do-it-yourself vids with all the links to all you need to dl to use the revolutionary method.
If you go to gmail on a pc, go to contacts, and check them. If your phone contacts are there (they will be), they load when you log into your phone.
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everyone here has great advice tips, the only other GREAT thing i can add is that after you ROOT you can use Titanium backup. save all your data on your apps so you can transfer to another device and pick up where you left off.
This is one of the biggest reason to root your phone. you'll learn other GREAT tricks the app can do but i'll let you figure that on your own.
Stratejaket said:
If tethering is a major bonus and one of the main reasons you would like to root all you need to do is run revolutionary and install wifi tether. Running revo will not delete anything from your phone or change any of your currently set up applications. Your contacts will remain, twitter and facebook as well. It merely gains S-off and installs superuser so you can run rooted apps.
It is really hard to explain what the different roms have to offer since they all offer so much over stock. I hate verizons back up assistant so I just made sure all of my stuff is sync'd with google so once you sign back into your phone it will automatically reload calendar, contacts, wifi settings, etc...
Personally I enjoy sense based ROMs, others love AOSP. Currently I'm running Infectedrom.coms Eternity Sense 3.5 and absolutely love it.
Customization on most roms is the biggest reason I chose to root. Sick of my phone looking like everyone elses. It is nice to have another tbolt owner notice your sceen and get jealous
Just curious how would your phone mess up your wifes outlook contacts?
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Because, last time I unlocked a phone, I had used microsoft backup. So when I hard reset my phone after unlocking, it replaced everything on my phone like it should, but then when I synced with the desktop, it doubled everything on the desktop, contacts and calendar items. We had to remove the doubled items one at a time to get everything back to normal. I know she will kill me if that happens again with rooting this.
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everyone here has great advice tips, the only other GREAT thing i can add is that after you ROOT you can use Titanium backup. save all your data on your apps so you can transfer to another device and pick up where you left off.
This is one of the biggest reason to root your phone. you'll learn other GREAT tricks the app can do but i'll let you figure that on your own.
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Absolutely TRUE! You have no idea how much hassle and time you will save by using this app!!!
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Because, last time I unlocked a phone, I had used microsoft backup. So when I hard reset my phone after unlocking, it replaced everything on my phone like it should, but then when I synced with the desktop, it doubled everything on the desktop, contacts and calendar items. We had to remove the doubled items one at a time to get everything back to normal. I know she will kill me if that happens again with rooting this.
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If it did happen google can clean duplicated contacts for you from the people app.
Do it. Sorry had to spam a thread to get to 10. Need to post in ROM sections.
So, i'm running Eclipse 2.0 on my DX2 right now, and i flashed it after trying CM7. CM7 was great, but felt sluggish at times (admittedly I don't believe that I had the "allow purging of assets" enabled at the time either). So after flashing the brand new Eclipse 2.0, I felt like Eclipse was so much more complete, even though it is blur-based. Now, however, after about 3 weeks it's getting sluggish at random times for no reason. There's no apparently eating up the CPU. I always have 80+ MBs of RAM (I'm running Supercharger V6 with the middle (unleaded?) option for 512mb devices selected). I can't seem to pinpoint the problem. So here's where I pose 2 questions:
Eclipse or CM7DX2 (and your reasoning, if you can)
And any ideas on the sluggish performance? I've had this happen on previous ROMs too (older Eclipse models and stock gingerbread w/ bloat removed). I always SBF and wipe data/cache before each fresh ROM install.
Thanks!
Eclipsed from my DX2
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So, i'm running Eclipse 2.0 on my DX2 right now, and i flashed it after trying CM7. CM7 was great, but felt sluggish at times (admittedly I don't believe that I had the "allow purging of assets" enabled at the time either). So after flashing the brand new Eclipse 2.0, I felt like Eclipse was so much more complete, even though it is blur-based. Now, however, after about 3 weeks it's getting sluggish at random times for no reason. There's no apparently eating up the CPU. I always have 80+ MBs of RAM (I'm running Supercharger V6 with the middle (unleaded?) option for 512mb devices selected). I can't seem to pinpoint the problem. So here's where I pose 2 questions:
Eclipse or CM7DX2 (and your reasoning, if you can)
And any ideas on the sluggish performance? I've had this happen on previous ROMs too (older Eclipse models and stock gingerbread w/ bloat removed). I always SBF and wipe data/cache before each fresh ROM install.
Thanks!
Eclipsed from my DX2
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Wow, I'm really surprised to hear Eclipse is running sluggishly. I've been running it for a while now and it's completely reliable, the epitome of a "daily driver". Are you running any funky apps or getting apps from fringe markets?
I've found either one can get sluggish, especially if you have a ton of apps loaded.
What I've been doing now is rebooting daily. I'm also running Fast Reboot Pro, which is really more of a "soft" reboot - it doesn't really reboot the phone, per se, but instead it "simulates" a reboot by stopping many services and programs that wouldn't be running at start up.
I myself have a lot of apps installed. I should probably go and remove them, but for some reason, I like to have them loaded (mainly games) just in case I want to play them. OCD anyone?
In any case, I was running CM7 and I'm now running Eclipse 2.1. I've found that I've had the problems in either one which required a reboot. I just switched to Eclipse 2.1 because I found it a wee-bit more stable (no Superuser issues like in CM7) and Eclipse 2.1 has a even more Motoblur crap removed. It's just as responsive as CM7 IMHO.
But, in any case, a daily reboot will fix things and I'm hearing from many that this is almost global across the board with any ROM for the DX2. I think what really hurts the DX2 is the 512mb of main memory. Just pitiful compared to other phones out there.
I've also found running V6 Turbocharger scripts (the latest) helps as well. I've enabled options 6 and 20. Now, this is fine for Eclipse, but you don't want to run it with CM7. At least, that's what I've been told.
Anyways, when I find things get sluggish, I run the Fast Reboot Pro AND, since I'm running Go Launcher EX, I'll got into the "Running Programs" tab in the app drawer and close all the apps in there as well.
If that doesn't help, I then run V6 TC and run option 18 (which recoups RAM and kills lag). If that doesn't help, then I will reboot.
I also forgot to mention, I also use an application called Autostarts. It allows you to choose which apps start up based on a system event (during startup, after startup, USB connection/disconnect, WiFi status change, etc). I've found that a LOT of apps that I've installed start up on some various events. Many games apparently like to connect when they sense there is a data connection present, so I've turned those off. I only want the apps running when I actually launch them. With Autostarts, I have been able to finely control what apps start and when, which has helped as well.
go into BSR and wipe cache and dalvik cache
lemme know if that clears up Ya,lag
it worked for someone else and I've used that method before to clear up lagging issues...
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also, you know eclipse has a 2.1 version out now correct?
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iBolski said:
I've found either one can get sluggish, especially if you have a ton of apps loaded.
What I've been doing now is rebooting daily. I'm also running Fast Reboot Pro, which is really more of a "soft" reboot - it doesn't really reboot the phone, per se, but instead it "simulates" a reboot by stopping many services and programs that wouldn't be running at start up.
I myself have a lot of apps installed. I should probably go and remove them, but for some reason, I like to have them loaded (mainly games) just in case I want to play them. OCD anyone?
In any case, I was running CM7 and I'm now running Eclipse 2.1. I've found that I've had the problems in either one which required a reboot. I just switched to Eclipse 2.1 because I found it a wee-bit more stable (no Superuser issues like in CM7) and Eclipse 2.1 has a even more Motoblur crap removed. It's just as responsive as CM7 IMHO.
But, in any case, a daily reboot will fix things and I'm hearing from many that this is almost global across the board with any ROM for the DX2. I think what really hurts the DX2 is the 512mb of main memory. Just pitiful compared to other phones out there.
I've also found running V6 Turbocharger scripts (the latest) helps as well. I've enabled options 6 and 20. Now, this is fine for Eclipse, but you don't want to run it with CM7. At least, that's what I've been told.
Anyways, when I find things get sluggish, I run the Fast Reboot Pro AND, since I'm running Go Launcher EX, I'll got into the "Running Programs" tab in the app drawer and close all the apps in there as well.
If that doesn't help, I then run V6 TC and run option 18 (which recoups RAM and kills lag). If that doesn't help, then I will reboot.
I also forgot to mention, I also use an application called Autostarts. It allows you to choose which apps start up based on a system event (during startup, after startup, USB connection/disconnect, WiFi status change, etc). I've found that a LOT of apps that I've installed start up on some various events. Many games apparently like to connect when they sense there is a data connection present, so I've turned those off. I only want the apps running when I actually launch them. With Autostarts, I have been able to finely control what apps start and when, which has helped as well.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement, they are nearly equals in every respect except for SU and most of the time it depends on the user. You will have your own opinions of what you like and dislike in a ROM.
I have always liked Cyanogenmod and I have nothing against Eclipse, it was something that really saved the X2 for me, I was super POed when I found that there was so little to be done with my phone last August when I upgraded to it.
IMHO I would stick with Eclipse just because it is more stable, Cyanogen was a great release from the norm of Moto based ROMS but it is missing a few things since we cannot build it specifically for our phone as easily as everyone else.
Personally though, I hate you guys for being able to flash things right now and I really, really cannot wait for this F-ing soak to come through so I can either join you on 2.1 or have a really fancy paper weight.....
I've been running Eclipse for months, 2.1 for a few weeks now, best version yet. I run it with the build prop mash up, its always fast and responsive. However there are a couple things I do to help ensure that.
1. I schedule "Clear cache for user & system apps" in TB to run daily at 4:30 AM while I'm sleeping which is 30 minutes after my daily backup runs. After the cache clean it reboots. When I get up at 5:30 its usually quick and responsive all day.
2. Use the Moto performance manager built into Eclipse parts, schedule things that you don't want or need running in the background to auto-end (kills the app 2 minutes after the screen shuts off) This really helps with battery life as well, I can usually get 20+ hours of light/moderate use and it helps manage those apps that like to turn themselves on in the background.
3. I use Avast for security, but I also use the firewall feature to restrict network access of games & apps that don't need it.
4. I keep any apps/games I don't use regularly uninstalled, which I can quickly restore from TB if I need them. That seems to really help to as my wife had every free app of the day from amazon installed on hers and it was constantly locking/freezing. she cleaned most of them up and did the auto-end trick and hers has come back to life.
These are just suggestions but I've been using them for months now and they really work well to maximize the X2 as much as we can given the restrictions we have on it. Goodluck.
iBolski said:
I've found either one can get sluggish, especially if you have a ton of apps loaded.
What I've been doing now is rebooting daily. I'm also running Fast Reboot Pro, which is really more of a "soft" reboot - it doesn't really reboot the phone, per se, but instead it "simulates" a reboot by stopping many services and programs that wouldn't be running at start up.
I myself have a lot of apps installed. I should probably go and remove them, but for some reason, I like to have them loaded (mainly games) just in case I want to play them. OCD anyone?
In any case, I was running CM7 and I'm now running Eclipse 2.1. I've found that I've had the problems in either one which required a reboot. I just switched to Eclipse 2.1 because I found it a wee-bit more stable (no Superuser issues like in CM7) and Eclipse 2.1 has a even more Motoblur crap removed. It's just as responsive as CM7 IMHO.
But, in any case, a daily reboot will fix things and I'm hearing from many that this is almost global across the board with any ROM for the DX2. I think what really hurts the DX2 is the 512mb of main memory. Just pitiful compared to other phones out there.
I've also found running V6 Turbocharger scripts (the latest) helps as well. I've enabled options 6 and 20. Now, this is fine for Eclipse, but you don't want to run it with CM7. At least, that's what I've been told.
Anyways, when I find things get sluggish, I run the Fast Reboot Pro AND, since I'm running Go Launcher EX, I'll got into the "Running Programs" tab in the app drawer and close all the apps in there as well.
If that doesn't help, I then run V6 TC and run option 18 (which recoups RAM and kills lag). If that doesn't help, then I will reboot.
I also forgot to mention, I also use an application called Autostarts. It allows you to choose which apps start up based on a system event (during startup, after startup, USB connection/disconnect, WiFi status change, etc). I've found that a LOT of apps that I've installed start up on some various events. Many games apparently like to connect when they sense there is a data connection present, so I've turned those off. I only want the apps running when I actually launch them. With Autostarts, I have been able to finely control what apps start and when, which has helped as well.
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iBolski, the similarities between yours and my "phone management" techniques scare me lol.
pretty much everything you have said I do as well, including leaving games installed just in case I wanna play one day lmao
I just wanted to add to the point you made about rebooting once every day, this is something that it's not only recommended for the Dx2 but for ALL, Android powered phones in general, I do believe it is also written in the "manual", that comes with the devices, kinda like how a PC needs a reboot once in a while, Android benefits from a reboot once a day as well, allows it to drop system caches that have built up and are hanging around and such,
that fast reboot app I have also used in the past, but nothing compares to an, accrual power cycle of the device, I will even go ahead and wipe cache from Android recovery as well once every couple days,
our set UPS are most likely extremely similar and I've found I get pretty damn near the most I can get out of this x2, I feel like the only thing else I could benefit from is a new kernel, as I've pretty much tweaked this thing to the max I can get while locked down
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iBolski, the similarities between yours and my "phone management" techniques scare me lol.
pretty much everything you have said I do as well, including leaving games installed just in case I wanna play one day lmao
I just wanted to add to the point you made about rebooting once every day, this is something that it's not only recommended for the Dx2 but for ALL, Android powered phones in general, I do believe it is also written in the "manual", that comes with the devices, kinda like how a PC needs a reboot once in a while, Android benefits from a reboot once a day as well, allows it to drop system caches that have built up and are hanging around and such,
that fast reboot app I have also used in the past, but nothing compares to an, accrual power cycle of the device, I will even go ahead and wipe cache from Android recovery as well once every couple days,
our set UPS are most likely extremely similar and I've found I get pretty damn near the most I can get out of this x2, I feel like the only thing else I could benefit from is a new kernel, as I've pretty much tweaked this thing to the max I can get while locked down
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I think we're so similar due to the fact that I've seen you tell people to do this, so I'm just following your instructions. Scary, huh?
Also, Orange Terror gave a great tip that I didn't even know existed in Titanium Backup Pr. Goes to show you can always learn something new since I've used TBU for about two years now. I've gone in and set up a schedule to clear user and app cache and reboot the system every day around 4 am. At 3 am, I have it backup and upload to my Box account. Now I don't have to worry about doing that myself or missing a backup.
But I think the big thing that has helped me out now is also the Autostarts app. Going through and having it ensure certain apps don't launch under various scenarios has definitely caused my phone to be MUCH more responsive now.
Like you, it's allowed this crap X2 to actually be functional, along with Eclipse 2.1 and/or CM7. With DZK and Nitro, I'm not sure where this phone would be. Probably thrown against the wall and shattered into a million pieces!
iBolski said:
I think we're so similar due to the fact that I've seen you tell people to do this, so I'm just following your instructions. Scary, huh?
Also, Orange Terror gave a great tip that I didn't even know existed in Titanium Backup Pr. Goes to show you can always learn something new since I've used TBU for about two years now. I've gone in and set up a schedule to clear user and app cache and reboot the system every day around 4 am. At 3 am, I have it backup and upload to my Box account. Now I don't have to worry about doing that myself or missing a backup.
But I think the big thing that has helped me out now is also the Autostarts app. Going through and having it ensure certain apps don't launch under various scenarios has definitely caused my phone to be MUCH more responsive now.
Like you, it's allowed this crap X2 to actually be functional, along with Eclipse 2.1 and/or CM7. With DZK and Nitro, I'm not sure where this phone would be. Probably thrown against the wall and shattered into a million pieces!
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Amen to that. Thanks to Nitro, DZK and anyone that has contributed something.
I've been trying to start synching to box through TBU recently, but I can't schedule it to run automatically and when I try to run it manually after an hour its at like 20%, and I'm doing it on wifi. And it won't upload to my dropbox account at all, just sits there. Any suggestions?
iBolski said:
I think we're so similar due to the fact that I've seen you tell people to do this, so I'm just following your instructions. Scary, huh?
Also, Orange Terror gave a great tip that I didn't even know existed in Titanium Backup Pr. Goes to show you can always learn something new since I've used TBU for about two years now. I've gone in and set up a schedule to clear user and app cache and reboot the system every day around 4 am. At 3 am, I have it backup and upload to my Box account. Now I don't have to worry about doing that myself or missing a backup.
But I think the big thing that has helped me out now is also the Autostarts app. Going through and having it ensure certain apps don't launch under various scenarios has definitely caused my phone to be MUCH more responsive now.
Like you, it's allowed this crap X2 to actually be functional, along with Eclipse 2.1 and/or CM7. With DZK and Nitro, I'm not sure where this phone would be. Probably thrown against the wall and shattered into a million pieces!
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lol
well I know quote a few people seem to trust my set up lol
that auto starts app sound like it worth checking into also, thanks for the tip!
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
Thanks again!
Boardwalk30 said:
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
Thanks again!
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just a tip for when you update to 2.1
you really shouldn't need to wipe data, I haven't wiped data once when updating from 2.0> 2.xand I have had zero issues,
also, nitro has added a couple features/options to the stock eclipse launcher which are nice, u can choose amount of home screens, infinite loop, uninstall app when u long press then hold it over the trash can for a second (pretty useful, no more needing To go into manage apps to uninstall apps)
if ya wanna venture from that I recommend adw ex or go launcher ex(nitro has an eclipse theme in the market for go launcher in case ya wanna support him (it's like a buck) and wanna keep an eclipse theme with a different launcher that has more options)
either that or just do a quick market search or Google search for "light weight launcher" to get some nice options, there's an almost endless list of launchers to try, I've spent hours trying different launchers and still haven't touched half of them lol, there is so many choices it's crazy, there is something for every type of user, from minimalistic launcher to fancy ones like spb shell and such
Boardwalk30 said:
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Thanks again!
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
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I'm using Go Launcher EX myself. Have been since I ran an LG Vortex (now THAT was a SLOW phone but man, as far as music goes, it never skipped unlike the X2. Sad since it's an ARM6 600mhz single-core phone AND it had an unlocked bootloader so I could overclock the thing!).
For launchers I started with pro launcher. Then ended up with go launcher for a while. Now I am using adw ex. However I really like the new work nitro did with pro launcher. I would of stayed on it except for the 3D app drawer. Don't get me wrong it looks awesome and I used to use similar app drawer with the shell launcher but it triggers my vertigo.
Boardwalk30 said:
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
Thanks again!
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I also use ADW EX, it has been the most consistently bug free for me depending on the settings you use it can be lightning fast or just as bad as a stock launcher, but generally it is much faster than the stock ones and it is more user friendly.
Love all the insight here. I was running cm7 for a while but now on eclipse 2.1 and I haven't wanted to go back to cm7 yet. I also usually use adw ex but have been sticking with stock launcher. This go around. I reboot my phone at least once a day. I haven't tried any scripts yet but I haven't felt the need to iether. I try too keep as few apps running as possible. I also found that after I get done charging my phone I will reboot. Seems to give me more free ram. 185mb right now.
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CM7 rocks. Once CM9 becomes stable and a beta it will most likely be the best ROM on the X2.
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I must say, after upgrading to 2.1, uninstalling 34 apps (mostly large games) that i seemingly never used, and installing the build.prop mash up, i haven't had any issues yet so far! 2.1 seems to be quite the upgrade from 2.0. Thanks to everybody who posted their experience/ideas!
I started experiencing even more lag lately and it would immediately show up even after reboot. This started happening after I set up TBU to do a nightly cache clean and reboot.
What I finally figured out was, V6 Turbocharger scripts mem settings were not sticking! They were reverting back to the default for whatever reason. It was funny because the Lag Nullifier was still active.
So, I unturbocharged and everything via the scripts and set it back up to use local.prop and that seemed to fix everything.
Another thing I did was install Autostarts to tell it what apps should NOT start when certain system events occur (during startup, after startup, media change, etc).
I also used the Motorola Performance Manager to set up most apps to be killed two minutes after the phone goes to sleep.
I reinstalled Widgetlocker and things have been running smooth all day where as before, after playing many games (like Templerun, Fruit Ninja, Sims Free to Play, etc), I would notice lag would seep in and would require a reboot to fix it.
Now, with my set up (TBU clears cache and reboots nightly, Autostarts, Motorola Performance Manager, V6 TC), things are running smooth, smoother than they have before.
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So, I'm on mp6, android 9 - bootloader unlocked and rooted, if I update to Android 10, I know I will lose root access and everything, but the bootloader will lock again? That hurts, can you inform me fully, if possible, how to unlock the bootloader on the android 10, if it's too difficult to do then I'm probably not going to update
I am suffering with this, the miui 11 is very bad with advertisements, I am sorry for the upgrade and I do not advise ... I sent a message to the official BS2 forum and they do not have support yet ... the most funny and that the OEM option, it is enabled even without logging into the mi account. but the system does not accept the downgrade.
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I am suffering with this, the miui 11 is very bad with advertisements, I am sorry for the upgrade and I do not advise ... I sent a message to the official BS2 forum and they do not have support yet ... the most funny and that the OEM option, it is enabled even without logging into the mi account. but the system does not accept the downgrade.
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Agreed, I hated it the moment I saw it.
I was sooo stupid, just looked up a few news pages and they all said it was great. I didn't even looked at the look and feel of it. It is full of bloatware and I think performance wise it is much worse. It surely does look sleek but at a huge resource drain. RAM is being used God knows where and the battery... Fully charged before bed, by 1Pm the next day it was at %50. And nope, I didn't use it.
I don't want an iPhone.
DRei69 said:
Agreed, I hated it the moment I saw it.
I was sooo stupid, just looked up a few news pages and they all said it was great. I didn't even looked at the look and feel of it. It is full of bloatware and I think performance wise it is much worse. It surely does look sleek but at a huge resource drain. RAM is being used God knows where and the battery... Fully charged before bed, by 1Pm the next day it was at %50. And nope, I didn't use it.
I don't want an iPhone.
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I'm searching all sites, including Chinese looking for donwgrade but so far nothing ... unfortunately our device is poor in development
this is what i found but i can't download the links to try. apparently we should go back android 9 to mask the system and then update to joyui11
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108643754?utm_source=zhihu&utm_medium=social&utm_oi=986944598182248448
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this is what i found but i can't download the links to try. apparently we should go back android 9 to mask the system and then update to joyui11
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108643754?utm_source=zhihu&utm_medium=social&utm_oi=986944598182248448
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it seems that to download you need to pay for the links, to make it worse miui 11 in addition to draining battery, it's getting very hot ...
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
DRei69 said:
You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
AND
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
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You say this as if no one can pull out a ROM on XDA. You say the phone is very hot, but my phone doesn't heat up because I use wi-fi for network games, and the swappiness my 12/256 device seems to have a much longer time frame than on your device. I have all the big games installed and they work with maximum graphics.
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You say that when upgrading the ROM version you had problems overwriting dalvik. But Android is constantly in development throughout my life, and make wipe data/cache/dalvik this is already happening purely for aesthetics. Yes, I've read some comments about how many devices have lost performance after the update. So much so that the device has problems coming out of a long sleep and turning on the speakers. But I have no such problems. I don't know how long it will be in development, but I haven't seen than Android yet, in good condition, it's always been like this, one-legged and crooked.
Me at all on retro phone pulled, I ordered a Nokia 6600.
By the way, for some reason in the BS2+ section I did not meet posts with the code *#*#4636#*#*, does no one need it anymore. Having received the Dual 4G mode, we somehow forgot about it, but in vain.
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You say this as if no one can pull out a ROM on XDA. You say the phone is very hot, but my phone doesn't heat up because I use wi-fi for network games, and the swappiness my 12/256 device seems to have a much longer time frame than on your device. I have all the big games installed and they work with maximum graphics.
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You say that when upgrading the ROM version you had problems overwriting dalvik. But Android is constantly in development throughout my life, and make wipe data/cache/dalvik this is already happening purely for aesthetics. Yes, I've read some comments about how many devices have lost performance after the update. So much so that the device has problems coming out of a long sleep and turning on the speakers. But I have no such problems. I don't know how long it will be in development, but I haven't seen than Android yet, in good condition, it's always been like this, one-legged and crooked.
Me at all on retro phone pulled, I ordered a Nokia 6600.
By the way, for some reason in the BS2+ section I did not meet posts with the code *#*#4636#*#*, does no one need it anymore. Having received the Dual 4G mode, we somehow forgot about it, but in vain.
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I think you getting the wrong information or maybe you quoted the wrong post
The reason I didn't like the new update was because it was full of bloatware that I could not disable. The fact that just trying to use Calculator and set-up my Alarm required Location Services and Internet location or else they would not start (this is just 2 of the apps).
The fact that it delete a whole bunch of applications which were not compatible. Didn't even leave the app data which sucked as I lost months of gaming.
The fact that it was eating up RAM like crazy, yet the phone was running smoothly, no problems there.
The fact that it was running hot yet you wouldn't see that unless running Shark Cooler.
Now I will say that my phone always runs all games on the highest graphical settings. Actually choosing lower settings and 30fps would make games run really sluggish.
The images you posted actually look pretty crap I have a few games like RAID and Saint Seiya which look amazing.
My phone was purchased to be a mobile platform, the games are just extras to keep me busy on the go.
At home I game on my PC or Console, not my phone. If I want to play mobile games I would download the PC Clients or use an Emulator, my progress will be carried across.
You gotta realise that if you game on your phone, be it on data or WiFi you are radiating yourself pretty damn hard. We wonder why cancer rates are going up...
I rolled back using the method mentioned on these forums and everything was great, but I couldn't use my Google Phone Backup because it was a higher version so I ended up copying the whole phone to my PC.
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I think you getting the wrong information or maybe you quoted the wrong post
The reason I didn't like the new update was because it was full of bloatware that I could not disable. The fact that just trying to use Calculator and set-up my Alarm required Location Services and Internet location or else they would not start (this is just 2 of the apps).
The fact that it delete a whole bunch of applications which were not compatible. Didn't even leave the app data which sucked as I lost months of gaming.
The fact that it was eating up RAM like crazy, yet the phone was running smoothly, no problems there.
The fact that it was running hot yet you wouldn't see that unless running Shark Cooler.
Now I will say that my phone always runs all games on the highest graphical settings. Actually choosing lower settings and 30fps would make games run really sluggish.
The images you posted actually look pretty crap I have a few games like RAID and Saint Seiya which look amazing.
My phone was purchased to be a mobile platform, the games are just extras to keep me busy on the go.
At home I game on my PC or Console, not my phone. If I want to play mobile games I would download the PC Clients or use an Emulator, my progress will be carried across.
You gotta realise that if you game on your phone, be it on data or WiFi you are radiating yourself pretty damn hard. We wonder why cancer rates are going up...
I rolled back using the method mentioned on these forums and everything was great, but I couldn't use my Google Phone Backup because it was a higher version so I ended up copying the whole phone to my PC.
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I've seen people collect their backups over the years and try to get them used to the system. Well, in the screenshots, for example, Doom3 port PC, and this is a script game. Very heavy for Android multitasking. But it works pretty confidently on BS2. The RAM of my device is not yet reached, not for one of them. But not enough of those programs for Android 10, adapted for managing RAM. You are talking about fps, but some programs must manage fps, they must lower the fps forcibly to use for example videos in games.
And this is not a virus, it is a security system with the ability to restrict background processes.
MCT_ said:
I've seen people collect their backups over the years and try to get them used to the system. Well, in the screenshots, for example, Doom3 port PC, and this is a script game. Very heavy for Android multitasking. But it works pretty confidently on BS2. The RAM of my device is not yet reached, not for one of them. But not enough of those programs for Android 10, adapted for managing RAM. You are talking about fps, but some programs must manage fps, they must lower the fps forcibly to use for example videos in games.
And this is not a virus, it is a security system with the ability to restrict background processes.
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I should have asked if your device is Rooted? If YES then yeah, it would explain why you can manage it better and have control over the bloatware apps installed.
The app mentioned in the screenshot, does that require Root?
I have a Xiaomi MI 9T Pro and it has the same OS on Android 9 which is MIUI 10. So all they did was give us MIUI 10. Also if you read around lots of people downgrade from MIUI 11. Obviously these new updates are not good. If it ain't broke don't fix it:
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Have a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/gse82b/so_today_i_found_out_that_miui_11080_is/
DRei69 said:
I should have asked if your device is Rooted? If YES then yeah, it would explain why you can manage it better and have control over the bloatware apps installed.
The app mentioned in the screenshot, does that require Root?
I have a Xiaomi MI 9T Pro and it has the same OS on Android 9 which is MIUI 10. So all they did was give us MIUI 10. Also if you read around lots of people downgrade from MIUI 11. Obviously these new updates are not good. If it ain't broke don't fix it:
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Have a look here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/comments/gse82b/so_today_i_found_out_that_miui_11080_is/
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No, not rooted.
I don't do fix, just use the existing settings.
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Antivirus is here:
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The equalizer is here:
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So what doesn't work like that ?
It is quite suitable for everyday use (at this stage of development).
And people are different.
In any case, the choice is yours, whether to download an update or not for the device is your own decision.
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You should follow these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/bl...ep-to-downgrade-joyui11android-10-to-t4096861
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=81893375&postcount=20&nocache=1
I downloaded the MP3 and put it in ota folder, used the code and I am back on Android 9. All my settings were saved in Google and they were restored, but for whatever reason because they were JoyUI 11 (Android 10), they messed up my phone, kept getting funny errors, so I just did a factory reset and didn't chose to use Google phone transfer.
The main error I ran into was DF-DFERH-01 on the play store.
I will need to reinstall everything and see if I can manually move all my data and obb folders (I made sure to backup everything).
Debating if I should upgrade to MP6 now.
P.S. joyui11 was getting worse and worse. I had the shark cooler on and it keep being at high speed, it never went down, only to find out that my phone was running hot. Talk about a very very bad update.
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Sorry, I'm new to this stuff. I've tried this but ended up getting the message "The upgrade package does not exist". I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
I've made the folder "ota" and put the "update.zip" file inside, click local update and it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? do I have to extract the files?
Device model: SKW_H0
Current Version: SKYW2005101OS01MQ0
P.S. Just extracted the files into the OTA folder, still doesn't work. This time, no message appears.
Hello,
I have a question about upgrade. I'm in SMP5 rooted an I want to go to SMP6. I have OTA update notification, but anytime I tried to update it does not work. It finish downloading the OTA but it does nothing applying it. I have checked uninstalling magisk an with non- patched boot image. Do I need to do anything else? Do I have to lock againg bootloader a critical bootloader?
Thanks
julipxda said:
Hello,
I have a question about upgrade. I'm in SMP5 rooted an I want to go to SMP6. I have OTA update notification, but anytime I tried to update it does not work. It finish downloading the OTA but it does nothing applying it. I have checked uninstalling magisk an with non- patched boot image. Do I need to do anything else? Do I have to lock againg bootloader a critical bootloader?
Thanks
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You have to relock the bootloader.