G1 Camera Flash? - G1 Accessories

KUDOS TO ALL!
I have been doing couple of research regarding camera flash for the G1. Hardware or app, whichever. So I have been looking on couple of threads. They talk about having a flash in g1 camera. I was figuring if does anyone have news about that? I kinda found this thread a little useful (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540299) but they stopped talking about it. Thinking maybe they stopped working about a hardware flash for the G1. I was hoping if they are developments I could know about. Or are there any g1 casing that provides LED lights for the casing (similar to the iphone-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6F93snwmA). Or like this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQFqF5bK1M. Also in this guy in the HTC Dream (g1) manual has a flash in his g1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468673 --Go to service manual G1. Page 60 for a view of the camera on the back. And page 86 for better view at the back with the casing.
Please let me know if you guys have info about g1 camera flash.

fart23 said:
KUDOS TO ALL!
I have been doing couple of research regarding camera flash for the G1. Hardware or app, whichever. So I have been looking on couple of threads. They talk about having a flash in g1 camera. I was figuring if does anyone have news about that? I kinda found this thread a little useful (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540299) but they stopped talking about it. Thinking maybe they stopped working about a hardware flash for the G1. I was hoping if they are developments I could know about. Or are there any g1 casing that provides LED lights for the casing (similar to the iphone-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6F93snwmA). Or like this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQFqF5bK1M. Also in this guy in the HTC Dream (g1) manual has a flash in his g1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468673 --Go to service manual G1. Page 60 for a view of the camera on the back. And page 86 for better view at the back with the casing.
Please let me know if you guys have info about g1 camera flash.
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So why did you decide to post a new thread about something that has already been discussed? I'm thinking that this should just be merged along with the other discussions all into one single thread. That's just me thinking about how to keep the forums clean and structured though.

I'm sorry if I made the forums untidy in your perspective. All apologies. I posted this because the old thread was a year old already. In my expectations no one would respond. So forgive me.

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I'm sorry if I made the forums untidy in your perspective. All apologies. I posted this because the old thread was a year old already. In my expectations no one would respond. So forgive me.
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Whenever you reply to a thread that is a year+ old or a day old it "bumps" it. Yes... it would have been read. I think that if anything would have been done it would have been done years ago. Besides, not too many people still use the G1 anymore since there is about half a dozen newer devices out already.

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[Q] Samsung Vibrant GPS Innacurate?

Seasoned Samsung Vibrant users,
I just got today Sept 30th my Samsung Vibrant, I hope that this GPS problem that I have it's just SOFTWARE and not HARDWARE problem and you may tell me with your experience / suggestions what this is about.
Before the Samsung Vibrant, I was using a HTC Mytouch 3g slide, the GPS on my slide has been very accurate, what I can tell you is that from my bedroom My slide detects properly my home address using Google maps, with Samsung Vibrant usually gives me an innacurate location using Google Maps as well.
I have turned ON the wireless and the GPS on Samsung Vibrant as I did the same with my htc slide and on Samsung Vibrant gives me around 40 to 50 meters difference with a wrong location,
I don't want to use WIFI because it’s not the case, why on my HTC Mytouch 3g slide I don't need WIFI also I won’t have WIFI everywhere where I go, so I want that the Samsung vibrant works at least the same or better than a HTC phone GPS hardware.
so my question Is that a hardware problem or software issue?
My HTC Mytouch 3g slide never fails where I'm in my bedroom or other place where I go and test it and this Samsung is getting me out of my nerves that isn't accurate at all.
HARDWARE or SOFTWARE problem?
If it is software I will wait, but if it is hardware, I’ll be very disappointed.
Thanks I really appreciate your answer about this issue,
I have 14 days to test it and if I'm not happy with it I can return it depending what this problem is.
OMG please use the search function.
It IS a software issue... vibrant is well knows for its gps to be messed up.. the new 2.2 is coming out in approx a month and it will have a gps fix and also make ur phone faster plus alot of other things
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I have been trying to refrain from jumping on people for stupid posts, BUT ...
The gps issue has been an issue with the Vibrant since day one, and there are most likely hundreds of threads on it already ....
I know it is a little scary but that search box does not bite ...
Hell a google search of "Samsung Vibrant GPS" should tell you all you need to know ..
Come on people use some common sense and search first, at least pretend to search for the sanity of the rest of us ...​
backslide311 said:
omg please use the search function.
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I have been trying to refrain from jumping on people for stupid posts, BUT ...
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ROTFLMAO! Too True!
Oh no, my Vibrant might be messed up????
Really??
Welcome to the real world!
Been bad since day one.
Wow, everyone is being kinda douchy here. All you have to do is root your phone with one of the many methods, install clockwork recovery and flash either the JI2 GPS fix or this one which is the same thing but uses the JI5 files instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796654 Good luck.
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Wow, everyone is being kinda douchy here. All you have to do is root your phone with one of the many methods, install clockwork recovery and flash either the JI2 GPS fix or this one which is the same thing but uses the JI5 files instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796654 Good luck.
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Douchy? Douchy , not sure what that means but I am sure it applies to ones who do not search or, fail to see that this question/answer is in about 100 other threads.
NO problem helping people, but you can really only help those who help themselves ...
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Douchy? Douchy , not sure what that means but I am sure it applies to ones who do not search or, fail to see that this question/answer is in about 100 other threads.
NO problem helping people, but you can really only help those who help themselves ...
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No i agree with you. I dont think I ever post questions here. I usually use my friend google and figure it out myself HOWEVER I also remember when i first got my very first android phone "G1" and was soooo lost at where to even begin. To the OP... they are right, you can find most anything by searching. I guess I only said that because some people just get plain rude. Not necessarily talking about you watcher64. Your post wasnt bad, just didn't really give any answer.
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No i agree with you. I dont think I ever post questions here. I usually use my friend google and figure it out myself HOWEVER I also remember when i first got my very first android phone "G1" and was soooo lost at where to even begin. To the OP... they are right, you can find most anything by searching. I guess I only said that because some people just get plain rude. Not necessarily talking about you.
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No offense taken , I just remember the old days of the forum, where this was a place to come learn, not to have the answers handed to you.
Seems everyone is looking for the quick fix these days, and really do not want to learn what they are doing or HOW it is actually done, then yell and scream at the people who help them that they broke their phone ...
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Just to clarify I was on here almost 2 years before I asked more than a handful of questions, because 99% of the answers could be found by reading and searching, so it does get annoying that so many people want spoon fed these days.
It took you longer to write about your problems than it takes to search .
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jrharvey said:
Wow, everyone is being kinda douchy here. All you have to do is root your phone with one of the many methods, install clockwork recovery and flash either the JI2 GPS fix or this one which is the same thing but uses the JI5 files instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796654 Good luck.
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I love anything that starts with, "All you have to do is..."
Like all the other supposed GPS fixes out there, these don't necessarily work either.
MV10 said:
I love anything that starts with, "All you have to do is..."
Like all the other supposed GPS fixes out there, these don't necessarily work either.
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I would agree with you some fixes seem to work for some people , other for others, but they do work, it is just a matter of finding the one that works for you ...
If none work, then may be time to exchange the phone for a new one ...
Yeah some ppl take things Way too seriously of some posts duplicate threads get over it. Everyone is not familiar with this stuff damn we have all been there. No need to sit there and put someone down for not knowing
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Joshochoa187 said:
Yeah some ppl take things Way too seriously of some posts duplicate threads get over it. Everyone is not familiar with this stuff damn we have all been there. No need to sit there and put someone down for not knowing
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There is a big difference between not knowing, and "NOT EVEN TRYING", that is the biggest complaint ...
How do you think most of us here got the knowledge we do have, we looked it up, if you work a little for something, you will tend to remember it in the future...
This is a place for Development, and Education , not hand outs, never has been, and should never be taken as so ....
But I digress, you are right why should anybody here give a damn ....
OH because if nobody gave a damn, the people that get ask the questions would not know the answer either ....
No you speak the truth ppl should research, I had an off day when I posted sry if I sounded like a jerk. I do plenty of research on my own b4 doing anything to my phone, and if I brick it I have no one else to blame but myself. For example I have been researching the whole flashing with odin on my spare time, which isn't much still haven't got comfortable enough to try though. I just felt like the guy was getting slapped around a bit too much that's all.
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A flash for the rear camera?

SOOOOOOO there are plenty of tutorials for the Front Facing Camera. Has anyone tried to put a flash on the rear facing camera? I REALLY want a flash. PLease help.
ledbetter.james said:
SOOOOOOO there are plenty of tutorials for the Front Facing Camera. Has anyone tried to put a flash on the rear facing camera? I REALLY want a flash. PLease help.
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The vibrant is basically just the I9000 (form factor wise anyways).
The mounting stuff was not taken out, just the camera itself, so our hack to get the FFC working is just to snap it in & install a new kernel that supports it.
The I9000 didn't have a flash, so it's not that easy for the vibrant. It doesn't have anything to mount it to or anywhere to plug it in at all.
So, if it's possible, it would probably be a significant hack to accomplish.
Thanks Dude. I figured that if it could be done it wuld have already been done. Oh well I wait till August and get whatever is out then.
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SOOOOOOO there are plenty of tutorials for the Front Facing Camera. Has anyone tried to put a flash on the rear facing camera? I REALLY want a flash. PLease help.
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SOOOOOOO there are plenty of tutorials for the Front Facing Camera. Has anyone tried to put a flash on the rear facing camera? I REALLY want a flash. PLease help.
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lol.............................
Kevin what's so funny about the question? Some of us require flash some don't.
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Really?? Are you developing anything else besides a headache ... Q&A section dude.
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this is why all the devs left XDA and started all their own forums because the amount of useless new threads opened is pathetic. Even Cyanogen doesnt mess w/ XDA anymore becazuse ppl dont bother to read anymore....they should remove the new thread button in vibrant android dev forum unless u register as android dev and a MOD approves u...this has gotten waaaaaaaay out of hand
I've been working on a custom mod of mine own with 3 led on my back plate and cover everything with a external another back cover. I'm almost done with the project.
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this is why all the devs left XDA and started all their own forums because the amount of useless new threads opened is pathetic. Even Cyanogen doesnt mess w/ XDA anymore becazuse ppl dont bother to read anymore....they should remove the new thread button in vibrant android dev forum unless u register as android dev and a MOD approves u...this has gotten waaaaaaaay out of hand
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That is the kind of arrogance that makes me glad of the types that left. Yes theres a FAQ, and yes, there are a few that wont read it. Honestly, the FAQ (at least in the vibrant forum) is a frakin mile long! I can easily see how someone may miss it. Informative yes, but give people a break! Not to mention the breakup into 4 separate sub-forums ect ect, its easy for someone new or doesnt come often to not find their way around well.
Been going on for years, and will persist after you leave.
It's not a completely stupid or worthless question because I see it as do-able. I'm no dev...nor have I worked with the hardware on this phone, but I have thought about integrating a luminous LED as part of the flash. I think it could be as simple as finding th current that turns the camera lens on and integrating the LED power into it. Even if it doesn't 'Flash'...it's still a 'flash' equivalent lighting setting.
The FFC was do-able...I think someone can make a suitable flash for our camera.
Makes me want to work on it myself...
I spent a good 10-15 minutes in the camera app trying to figure out how to turn on flash before I realized the phone didnt have a flash on it! What a surprise damn you samsung!
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Kevin what's so funny about the question? Some of us require flash some don't.
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course a flash would be lovely.but realistically the request to some how install a flash even when no original i9000 variant have a flash built into the unit to simply snap in is ridiculous. lollll
Don't be so quick to judge, I myself have wondered what if this phone had a flash. Honestly, it'd be friggin sweet! That goes without saying.
@Haxel: Awesome points, great attitude!
@p unit: I'm intrigued by your project, have you thought about somehow incorporating an LED flash into an extended battery back plate? More battery life, and maybe since the cover is bigger, you might have more room to work with on fitting a flash in.
good luck!
iwillkillyou said:
Kevin what's so funny about the question? Some of us require flash some don't.
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If you are running FroYo you can download it from the Market.
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If you are running FroYo you can download it from the Market.
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They are talking about a physical flash a light. not the light software program.
I thought it was a great question since the Fascinate has one. I don't see why having a moderator approve your question would be necessary, since none of the questions would ever get posted since they are questions that are usually way below their intelligence level. Let's be honest here, we as junior members look to developers, kangers and such for advice, guidance, and help. Having an attitude toward the people that look up to you for your knowledge, is pompous, arrogant, and simple minded. If you think there are too many questions, then don't read the posts (you should know what it's about by the title anyway). If you don't have anything to contribute other than a bad attitude, then don't respond and the rest of us will learn the hard way. You guys who don't want to read our questions weren't born with the knowledge you have, so don't assume that just because someone has a question, doesn't mean they haven't tried. Give some of us the benefit of the doubt. We don't all have our faces crushed into a computer screen all day you know........
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If you are running FroYo you can download it from the Market.
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Not that type of flash but you gave me a laugh
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I have seen an external clip-on type of flash light that you can clip it on your phone and take picture in the dark. I forget which website I saw it. However, it is still in production and not yet available until probably mid or end of this year, so just keep your eyes open.
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I have seen an external clip-on type of flash light that you can clip it on your phone and take picture in the dark. I forget which website I saw it. However, it is still in production and not yet available until probably mid or end of this year, so just keep your eyes open.
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I have been looking for a mini usb led light

So I just found out I am getting the G tablet!!!

For Father's day --- lucky me!!!
Good price also I think? 289.99
http://www.buy.com/prod/viewsonic-g...ra-2-1ghz-512mb-ddr2/q/loc/111/219101228.html
Anyway I just looked in this sub forum and have not read anything in depth yet. I have practice flashing roms on my phone so I am not a complete newbie...but not far..
So is the instructions in the flash thread still the one to follow exactly as written? I only ask because I saw somewhere that the G tablet has been updated and some roms are no longer good (not sure if this is true?)
Anyway I will be getting this tablet soon and want to flash it before I even use it (with at least gingerbread if not honeycomb), so any tips or hints would be appreciated.
Thanks so much in advance!!!
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so any tips or hints would be appreciated.
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Tip 1: Post General (like this) or Q/A (like "how do I...?") posts in the General or Q/A forums, not in THIS forum, which (as you can see by the Stickied Posts you passed over) is just for developers to post about their things, and for you to give them feedback in their threads.
Tip 2: be sure you understand the whole 1.1 vs 1.2 bootloader thing
Tip 3: have fun!
Sorry for posting in the wrong place. I am so used to the phone section (which is where we post these questions) that I just assumed it was the same setup.
Can a Mod please move this thread to the correct forum please?
thanks
I don't think there is another tab with as much interests as this one.
That said I hope you know about the screen viewing angle issue. I haven't really noticed it but some people have cried bloody murder.
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I don't think there is another tab with as much interests as this one.
That said I hope you know about the screen viewing angle issue. I haven't really noticed it but some people have cried bloody murder.
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Yeah, I've read about it, but I haven't noticed any issues on my gTab either.
love my gTab.
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ROOT status: latest gossip on progress & ETA

Been spending too much time flipping back and forth between the dev forum and here trying to find the latest scoop on what is going on with a permanent root solution. With the threads getting closed and people getting banned over on the dev forum, not even the devs are posting any real updates there any more. And here... the threads are broken up. So how about one consolidated thread to talk about status, rumors, etc.? ONE place to go to get the latest scoop.
For example, TeamWin posted on Twitter yesterday that there are no big announcements and they've run into a lot of roadblocks. Also said something about having to try different avenues now. Sounds like permaroot could take a while. Maybe someone posted that info here somewhere, but it's hard to tell where to look any more to find the latest status, rumors, and talk about root. Even the devs have given up posting in the dev forum.
Mike
I think it's time to put the screws back to HTC to make good on their "promise"
This phone WILL be going back if they don't unlock it.
It's ok, as good as these devs are... I never really expected full root unless HTC unlocks the phone.
I just hate that this site, well at least the 3D section has become retardedly over moderated. Perfect example of someone who doesn't need a bus patrol badge IMO.
In before thread lockdown lol
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Been spending too much time flipping back and forth between the dev forum and here trying to find the latest scoop on what is going on with a permanent root solution. With the threads getting closed and people getting banned over on the dev forum, not even the devs are posting any real updates there any more. And here... the threads are broken up. So how about one consolidated thread to talk about status, rumors, etc.? ONE place to go to get the latest scoop.
For example, TeamWin posted on Twitter yesterday that there are no big announcements and they've run into a lot of roadblocks. Also said something about having to try different avenues now. Sounds like permaroot could take a while. Maybe someone posted that info here somewhere, but it's hard to tell where to look any more to find the latest status, rumors, and talk about root. Even the devs have given up posting in the dev forum.
Mike
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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Yep that's exactly what I was about to say. Heck, it's even stickied at the top of the dev page.. Not sure why this thread exists.
If you guys actually want success with the return under 30 days policy, you need to give that threat to the CARRIER and have them place the pressure on HTC. It will NOT hurt the HTC bottom line if you return your phone to sprint. Sprint already bought the phone FROM HTC. So it hurts Sprint, not HTC.
SayWhat10 said:
there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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That thread (and the other one there) don't do the job. That's why this one exists! First of all, if I only wanted to be updated once a day, there wouldn't be a worn out blank key between F4 and F6 on my keyboard.
Second, us "normal" users can't post in that forum and those threads are not updated as regularly (or as well) as you say. Right now, if you wanted to know the latest status (from Twitter) that says "#teamwin No big announcement tonight. We hit some pretty big road blocks. But I'm working on a new angle to Fre3dom" you can't find it any place but here. People who have their ear to the ground should be able to post what they find... when they find it.
Mike
mikeyxda said:
That thread (and the other one there) don't do the job. That's why this one exists! First of all, if I only wanted to be updated once a day, there wouldn't be a worn out blank key between F4 and F6 on my keyboard.
Second, us "normal" users can't post in that forum and those threads are not updated as regularly (or as well) as you say. Right now, if you wanted to know the latest status (from Twitter) that says "#teamwin No big announcement tonight. We hit some pretty big road blocks. But I'm working on a new angle to Fre3dom" you can't find it any place but here. People who have their ear to the ground should be able to post what they find... when they find it.
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well buddy looks like you're just asking for way too much...
SayWhat10 said:
there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
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Well, in that thread....my is there no mention about fre3dom..just says about the fre3^vo and permanent root..nothing about s-off coming up...on the the status and upcoming items are?
edufur said:
If you guys actually want success with the return under 30 days policy, you need to give that threat to the CARRIER and have them place the pressure on HTC. It will NOT hurt the HTC bottom line if you return your phone to sprint. Sprint already bought the phone FROM HTC. So it hurts Sprint, not HTC.
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You won't get an ETA because one can't be given yet. Until someone actually achieves a full unlock, you can't possibly say how long it will take. You just keep trying different things until you break through. Once a full unlock is achieved then it's a matter of hours or a few days before it will be released so that the unlock can be put into an easy-to-use format & combined with other nice things like a custom recovery. There's also no telling who will find the unlock. It might be TeamWin or Unrevoked or someone else.
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Well, in that thread....my is there no mention about fre3dom..just says about the fre3^vo and permanent root..nothing about s-off coming up...on the the status and upcoming items are?
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fre3dom is full root
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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fre3dom is full root
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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Well put rank! And enough with the mods being to harsh and people won't post blah blahblah.! That's a dead horse! Move the hell on! Old news pal!
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rank78 said:
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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I think that this thread is better judgment. The Op posted that he wanted to discuss status, rumors, etc... Go post rumors in the actual dev threads. Tell me how that works out.
Whenever anyone posts in the the dev threads they are usually told to go make a post in general. Thats what this op did. I would rather see this thread created to discuss speculation then see the mods freak out because people are cluttering up the dev threads and start locking **** down so that the real Devs have to go post to forums other than XDA to get the word / files out. THAT is embarrassing. Not posting a thread to help keep the dev threads clean. Its not in the Dev forum, its in the general forum.
Let it be.
Oh and yeah... I'm not trying to be a **** either. Just telling you how it is when the Mods freak out over people talking in the Dev thread.
And who did you see walk away? They werent dedicated to the cause if they did. A real dev knows "newbish" behavior and also knows you wont stop it. EVER. So if they left... I say to them... Bye bye.
Fred3dom is no root...no shoot Sherlock..do we need to be censored for asking questions? To some..like me...root is a step to a more important goal...s-off. I am basing my decision to spend hard earned cash for this beast. And if these threads are out of hand...go to any forum...see if there is not humor(sometimes not related to the topic)...see if there is not a release of ideas that are free flowing. See if there is not a bond or sometimes hatred for others. The rules state...this thing is called xda is for sharing of ideas...by the community for the community, developers of software for these devices and newbies that need help. If we have such strict rules...then why have this forum? Learning is done by asking questions and sharing knowledge..not be being so strict...you don't have room to ask questions...and ideas are free forming as is knowledge...they are not something that can be censored...get a grip. ****...we could't even say thank you to the people who work hard to reach a goal...I don't know if you ever had a simple thanks for good work....this is just as important as info...and if you have not noticed...this thread is for root...for you it became a soapbox for yourself...what the he'll does that have to do with root?....a soapbox also...is not root.
Who are you talking to, me? Or the guy a couple posts above me?
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Who are you talking to, me? Or the guy a couple posts above me?
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Is not the noobs whos making dev leave is the moderators but i guess u guys all stick together, i think this is a good thread cuz he stated clearly for what it was for n instead of complaining for what he did what we should do is post any news if we had any
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I think that this thread is better judgment. The Op posted that he wanted to discuss status, rumors, etc... Go post rumors in the actual dev threads. Tell me how that works out.
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Exactly! And try to find one thread where all the latest rumors and info is being posted. DOES NOT EXIST. That's exactly why this thread exists. So in keeping on topic, the latest rumor mill shows that HTC is apparently getting ready to unlock the bootloader on the Sensation. Rumors are the 3vo shouldn't be far behind. Details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155755
My proposal was to keep ALL of this new info in ONE thread. Else you end up with the problem I was trying to solve which is every new little tidbit creating a new thread. Tomorrow "New email from HTC..." will be irrelevant to most and that'll scroll off the bottom of the forum and get lost for the people who haven't seen it yet. Post all this stuff HERE and we can keep up to date.
I know forum etiquette: I run my own forums. So I don't need lectures from mod-wanna-be's. But this IS a good place to keep all the info where everyone can see it: IF people stop posting every little tidbit as different threads.
Mike
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Exactly! And try to find one thread where all the latest rumors and info is being posted. DOES NOT EXIST. That's exactly why this thread exists. So in keeping on topic, the latest rumor mill shows that HTC is apparently getting ready to unlock the bootloader on the Sensation. Rumors are the 3vo shouldn't be far behind. Details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155755
My proposal was to keep ALL of this new info in ONE thread. Else you end up with the problem I was trying to solve which is every new little tidbit creating a new thread. Tomorrow "New email from HTC..." will be irrelevant to most and that'll scroll off the bottom of the forum and get lost for the people who haven't seen it yet. Post all this stuff HERE and we can keep up to date.
I know forum etiquette: I run my own forums. So I don't need lectures from mod-wanna-be's. But this IS a good place to keep all the info where everyone can see it: IF people stop posting every little tidbit as different threads.
Mike
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Well said, i like this thread n thanx for the news, i really hope they unlock it

The art of explaining and organizing

Hello, wonderful and talented guys. I follow your work, but i have to say that work here is a bit not organized. So many ways to achive something, so many threads, and so many things that go wrong. I know there are hours of hard work and so on, so probably my critics dont go against you developers, but towards the site's organizers. Its damn hard to find a real solution to a situation. You are awesome programmers, but finding a good solution to something specific can be tricky as hell. I have a device, for example, that shows another model while trying recovery. No help about TWRP troubleshooting. I'm lost now as a noob (as you guys call), though i need basic info. Guides are, most of them, a couple of command lines, which dont help to people who dont even know what is that. Einstein said "everybody is a genius, but if you jugde a fish for his way of climbing a tree, he will always think he is stupid". You are awesome programmers, but please organize the site better. Or get people to do that. Some program, some explain, you dont have to be all in one. Thanks for your attention to this post, and i hope you are intellingent enough to get this as a suggestion. See you around
I fully agree with you..I have been in charge in of a forum a few years back and I kept things in one thread.
In this case here with the togari there was a few users who was very active here in the beginning mostly those who got their hands on one in the early summer.
Then it died off and the pinned posts are there and dead..no one writes in them.
And then there was the legendary user LordManhattan who got banned and reappeared and got banned again and again
I dunno why don't ask me why the user was banned..
Perhaps if no one else replies here I might consolidate all info here in one thread and keep it alive for a few years.
And finally ask a mod to remove the old pinned threads and replace it with a new "single" one thread.
SUPERUSER said:
I fully agree with you..I have been in charge in of a forum a few years back and I kept things in one thread.
In this case here with the togari there was a few users who was very active here in the beginning mostly those who got their hands on one in the early summer.
Then it died off and the pinned posts are there and dead..no one writes in them.
And then there was the legendary user LordManhattan who got banned and reappeared and got banned again and again
I dunno why don't ask me why the user was banned..
Perhaps if no one else replies here I might consolidate all info here in one thread and keep it alive for a few years.
And finally ask a mod to remove the old pinned threads and replace it with a new "single" one thread.
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Thanks a lot for the kind reply I will try to do that, and maybe I can finally explain my situation with togari... Could be?
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Thanks a lot for the kind reply I will try to do that, and maybe I can finally explain my situation with togari... Could be?
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I dont understand. Explain what?
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I dont understand. Explain what?
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I mean, posting my problem with my Z Ultra, looking for help...
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I mean, posting my problem with my Z Ultra, looking for help...
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It seems to me you divided your topic into two parts a technical issue and an argument.
I read your post as your main argument is gained towards your disappointment against the disorganized forum with topics hard to find an easy to follow 1, 2, 3 step answer to an issue.
And I agree with this.
Hence my suggestion that I might be willing to consolidate information to a new single pinned thread.
If you have a specific issue you want help with look in the different parts of the forum but more specifically
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/help
If you looked through all pages and you don't find any other thread similar to your topic then start a new thread and ask your question.
You can also use the search function. Put in a single word and it will soon find other posts with this word included if you get a hit.
But I don't fully understand if your main issue is that the recovery reporting a different device from what you are using?
This was the case years ago when roms for example was ported from togari's little brother honami. But this was solved eventually.
SUPERUSER said:
It seems to me you divided your topic into two parts a technical issue and an argument.
I read your post as your main argument is gained towards your disappointment against the disorganized forum with topics hard to find an easy to follow 1, 2, 3 step answer to an issue.
And I agree with this.
Hence my suggestion that I might be willing to consolidate information to a new single pinned thread.
If you have a specific issue you want help with look in the different parts of the forum but more specifically
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/help
If you looked through all pages and you don't find any other thread similar to your topic then start a new thread and ask your question.
You can also use the search function. Put in a single word and it will soon find other posts with this word included if you get a hit.
But I don't fully understand if your main issue is that the recovery reporting a different device from what you are using?
This was the case years ago when roms for example was ported from togari's little brother honami. But this was solved eventually.
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Thanks again for your kind reply. So yes, for keeping it the best way, I will make a new post with my issues in the link you sent me, as I didn't find any case like mine... Thanks again and please, take a look at my post in the forum and if possible, please help me
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I fully agree with you..I have been in charge in of a forum a few years back and I kept things in one thread.
In this case here with the togari there was a few users who was very active here in the beginning mostly those who got their hands on one in the early summer.
Then it died off and the pinned posts are there and dead..no one writes in them.
And then there was the legendary user LordManhattan who got banned and reappeared and got banned again and again
I dunno why don't ask me why the user was banned..
Perhaps if no one else replies here I might consolidate all info here in one thread and keep it alive for a few years.
And finally ask a mod to remove the old pinned threads and replace it with a new "single" one thread.
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WOW happy to see you SUper user ...!! i am using this forum since 2009 when HTC magic first came out and rooting it was hell of a task including , creating a gold card via hex editor , remote not allowed issue , i recall amon_ra he helped me alot i worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step ... those days were amazing ,
i see now a days very little support by senior devs... for older phones...
by the ways thanks for all your hard work all devs and supporters ...
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WOW happy to see you SUper user ...!! i am using this forum since 2009 when HTC magic first came out and rooting it was hell of a task including , creating a gold card via hex editor , remote not allowed issue , i recall amon_ra he helped me alot i worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step ... those days were amazing ,
i see now a days very little support by senior devs... for older phones...
by the ways thanks for all your hard work all devs and supporters ...
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My pleasure :highfive: I read a lot about android and was very excited when they announced android.
But I didn't buy one until the desire was released. I kept going with my iphone 1 and 3g modding with cydia.
I had a few htc desire pvt 1 and two pvt 4 with boatloads of devs solving problems and coming up with exotic mods. I still have my one x.
I recently got my hands on a desire a year ago when a friend had one that didn't boot. It turned out someone in the past had done s-off and flashed a data2sd rom and the sd card was accidentally wiped making it unable to boot.
I enjoyed every bit of the time took me to fix the phone and reminded me how android really was a different world back then. I understand that it is much more fun owning an HTC device by looking at any of their device forums as there is tons of roms and devs hanging out there just like the old days. Its what I miss with sony devices.. here is a small group of users that don't keep their devices for very long and the forum fades away in silence.
I have also had many samsung devices probably being the most confusing due to their naming of stock roms..THSMM338FHHH could be older than THSMRM338FHHH but newer than THSMRR348FHHA ..(??)
"worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step"
Something similar I think senior flashoholics have probably forgotten the horrifying ~30 minutes endlessly waiting for the phone to boot after flashing a rom or mod thinking..
"if my phone don't boot now I bricked my phone". "$1k is going down the drain if it don't boot in the next 2 min.."
Thank god we don't have that today. Back then flashing roms was living on the edge
Probably the most scary I've done is gaining s-off on our desire. http://alpharev.nl/
Several times the terminal returned some type of error and you're ready to smack your phone in the table :crying:
I had totally forgotten about "remote not allowed "! I hate that.
I've gotten that message so many times when rooting a phone and then suddenly it just works..
I think I eventually gave up on rooting the Wildfire S because of this error message..I followed the guide correctly but it did not work.
SUPERUSER said:
My pleasure :highfive: I read a lot about android and was very excited when they announced android.
But I didn't buy one until the desire was released. I kept going with my iphone 1 and 3g modding with cydia.
I had a few htc desire pvt 1 and two pvt 4 with boatloads of devs solving problems and coming up with exotic mods. I still have my one x.
I recently got my hands on a desire a year ago when a friend had one that didn't boot. It turned out someone in the past had done s-off and flashed a data2sd rom and the sd card was accidentally wiped making it unable to boot.
I enjoyed every bit of the time took me to fix the phone and reminded me how android really was a different world back then. I understand that it is much more fun owning an HTC device by looking at any of their device forums as there is tons of roms and devs hanging out there just like the old days. Its what I miss with sony devices.. here is a small group of users that don't keep their devices for very long and the forum fades away in silence.
I have also had many samsung devices probably being the most confusing due to their naming of stock roms..THSMM338FHHH could be older than THSMRM338FHHH but newer than THSMRR348FHHA ..(??)
"worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step"
Something similar I think senior flashoholics have probably forgotten the horrifying ~30 minutes endlessly waiting for the phone to boot after flashing a rom or mod thinking..
"if my phone don't boot now I bricked my phone". "$1k is going down the drain if it don't boot in the next 2 min.."
Thank god we don't have that today. Back then flashing roms was living on the edge
Probably the most scary I've done is gaining s-off on our desire. http://alpharev.nl/
Several times the terminal returned some type of error and you're ready to smack your phone in the table :crying:
I had totally forgotten about "remote not allowed "! I hate that.
I've gotten that message so many times when rooting a phone and then suddenly it just works..
I think I eventually gave up on rooting the Wildfire S because of this error message..I followed the guide correctly but it did not work.
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and there we have Scary , Jtag Method for recovering form hardbrick .... any how those were amazing days ,
i have been using Xperia z ultra and i have bricked it for almost 10 times how ever sony flashing utilities are awsome by which i can revive the phone in minute to stock and flashtools is your freind for recoveries.... i am loving this time
http://www.vendetodito.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/JTAG-Android.jpg
any how , AMon_ra guide about HTC magic rooting was an amazing if any one follows is properly then its amazing guide... @Amon_RA
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