Hello, wonderful and talented guys. I follow your work, but i have to say that work here is a bit not organized. So many ways to achive something, so many threads, and so many things that go wrong. I know there are hours of hard work and so on, so probably my critics dont go against you developers, but towards the site's organizers. Its damn hard to find a real solution to a situation. You are awesome programmers, but finding a good solution to something specific can be tricky as hell. I have a device, for example, that shows another model while trying recovery. No help about TWRP troubleshooting. I'm lost now as a noob (as you guys call), though i need basic info. Guides are, most of them, a couple of command lines, which dont help to people who dont even know what is that. Einstein said "everybody is a genius, but if you jugde a fish for his way of climbing a tree, he will always think he is stupid". You are awesome programmers, but please organize the site better. Or get people to do that. Some program, some explain, you dont have to be all in one. Thanks for your attention to this post, and i hope you are intellingent enough to get this as a suggestion. See you around
I fully agree with you..I have been in charge in of a forum a few years back and I kept things in one thread.
In this case here with the togari there was a few users who was very active here in the beginning mostly those who got their hands on one in the early summer.
Then it died off and the pinned posts are there and dead..no one writes in them.
And then there was the legendary user LordManhattan who got banned and reappeared and got banned again and again
I dunno why don't ask me why the user was banned..
Perhaps if no one else replies here I might consolidate all info here in one thread and keep it alive for a few years.
And finally ask a mod to remove the old pinned threads and replace it with a new "single" one thread.
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I fully agree with you..I have been in charge in of a forum a few years back and I kept things in one thread.
In this case here with the togari there was a few users who was very active here in the beginning mostly those who got their hands on one in the early summer.
Then it died off and the pinned posts are there and dead..no one writes in them.
And then there was the legendary user LordManhattan who got banned and reappeared and got banned again and again
I dunno why don't ask me why the user was banned..
Perhaps if no one else replies here I might consolidate all info here in one thread and keep it alive for a few years.
And finally ask a mod to remove the old pinned threads and replace it with a new "single" one thread.
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Thanks a lot for the kind reply I will try to do that, and maybe I can finally explain my situation with togari... Could be?
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Thanks a lot for the kind reply I will try to do that, and maybe I can finally explain my situation with togari... Could be?
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I dont understand. Explain what?
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I dont understand. Explain what?
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I mean, posting my problem with my Z Ultra, looking for help...
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I mean, posting my problem with my Z Ultra, looking for help...
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It seems to me you divided your topic into two parts a technical issue and an argument.
I read your post as your main argument is gained towards your disappointment against the disorganized forum with topics hard to find an easy to follow 1, 2, 3 step answer to an issue.
And I agree with this.
Hence my suggestion that I might be willing to consolidate information to a new single pinned thread.
If you have a specific issue you want help with look in the different parts of the forum but more specifically
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/help
If you looked through all pages and you don't find any other thread similar to your topic then start a new thread and ask your question.
You can also use the search function. Put in a single word and it will soon find other posts with this word included if you get a hit.
But I don't fully understand if your main issue is that the recovery reporting a different device from what you are using?
This was the case years ago when roms for example was ported from togari's little brother honami. But this was solved eventually.
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It seems to me you divided your topic into two parts a technical issue and an argument.
I read your post as your main argument is gained towards your disappointment against the disorganized forum with topics hard to find an easy to follow 1, 2, 3 step answer to an issue.
And I agree with this.
Hence my suggestion that I might be willing to consolidate information to a new single pinned thread.
If you have a specific issue you want help with look in the different parts of the forum but more specifically
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z-ultra/help
If you looked through all pages and you don't find any other thread similar to your topic then start a new thread and ask your question.
You can also use the search function. Put in a single word and it will soon find other posts with this word included if you get a hit.
But I don't fully understand if your main issue is that the recovery reporting a different device from what you are using?
This was the case years ago when roms for example was ported from togari's little brother honami. But this was solved eventually.
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Thanks again for your kind reply. So yes, for keeping it the best way, I will make a new post with my issues in the link you sent me, as I didn't find any case like mine... Thanks again and please, take a look at my post in the forum and if possible, please help me
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I fully agree with you..I have been in charge in of a forum a few years back and I kept things in one thread.
In this case here with the togari there was a few users who was very active here in the beginning mostly those who got their hands on one in the early summer.
Then it died off and the pinned posts are there and dead..no one writes in them.
And then there was the legendary user LordManhattan who got banned and reappeared and got banned again and again
I dunno why don't ask me why the user was banned..
Perhaps if no one else replies here I might consolidate all info here in one thread and keep it alive for a few years.
And finally ask a mod to remove the old pinned threads and replace it with a new "single" one thread.
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WOW happy to see you SUper user ...!! i am using this forum since 2009 when HTC magic first came out and rooting it was hell of a task including , creating a gold card via hex editor , remote not allowed issue , i recall amon_ra he helped me alot i worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step ... those days were amazing ,
i see now a days very little support by senior devs... for older phones...
by the ways thanks for all your hard work all devs and supporters ...
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WOW happy to see you SUper user ...!! i am using this forum since 2009 when HTC magic first came out and rooting it was hell of a task including , creating a gold card via hex editor , remote not allowed issue , i recall amon_ra he helped me alot i worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step ... those days were amazing ,
i see now a days very little support by senior devs... for older phones...
by the ways thanks for all your hard work all devs and supporters ...
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My pleasure :highfive: I read a lot about android and was very excited when they announced android.
But I didn't buy one until the desire was released. I kept going with my iphone 1 and 3g modding with cydia.
I had a few htc desire pvt 1 and two pvt 4 with boatloads of devs solving problems and coming up with exotic mods. I still have my one x.
I recently got my hands on a desire a year ago when a friend had one that didn't boot. It turned out someone in the past had done s-off and flashed a data2sd rom and the sd card was accidentally wiped making it unable to boot.
I enjoyed every bit of the time took me to fix the phone and reminded me how android really was a different world back then. I understand that it is much more fun owning an HTC device by looking at any of their device forums as there is tons of roms and devs hanging out there just like the old days. Its what I miss with sony devices.. here is a small group of users that don't keep their devices for very long and the forum fades away in silence.
I have also had many samsung devices probably being the most confusing due to their naming of stock roms..THSMM338FHHH could be older than THSMRM338FHHH but newer than THSMRR348FHHA ..(??)
"worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step"
Something similar I think senior flashoholics have probably forgotten the horrifying ~30 minutes endlessly waiting for the phone to boot after flashing a rom or mod thinking..
"if my phone don't boot now I bricked my phone". "$1k is going down the drain if it don't boot in the next 2 min.."
Thank god we don't have that today. Back then flashing roms was living on the edge
Probably the most scary I've done is gaining s-off on our desire. http://alpharev.nl/
Several times the terminal returned some type of error and you're ready to smack your phone in the table :crying:
I had totally forgotten about "remote not allowed "! I hate that.
I've gotten that message so many times when rooting a phone and then suddenly it just works..
I think I eventually gave up on rooting the Wildfire S because of this error message..I followed the guide correctly but it did not work.
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My pleasure :highfive: I read a lot about android and was very excited when they announced android.
But I didn't buy one until the desire was released. I kept going with my iphone 1 and 3g modding with cydia.
I had a few htc desire pvt 1 and two pvt 4 with boatloads of devs solving problems and coming up with exotic mods. I still have my one x.
I recently got my hands on a desire a year ago when a friend had one that didn't boot. It turned out someone in the past had done s-off and flashed a data2sd rom and the sd card was accidentally wiped making it unable to boot.
I enjoyed every bit of the time took me to fix the phone and reminded me how android really was a different world back then. I understand that it is much more fun owning an HTC device by looking at any of their device forums as there is tons of roms and devs hanging out there just like the old days. Its what I miss with sony devices.. here is a small group of users that don't keep their devices for very long and the forum fades away in silence.
I have also had many samsung devices probably being the most confusing due to their naming of stock roms..THSMM338FHHH could be older than THSMRM338FHHH but newer than THSMRR348FHHA ..(??)
"worked whole night kept on reading carefully each step"
Something similar I think senior flashoholics have probably forgotten the horrifying ~30 minutes endlessly waiting for the phone to boot after flashing a rom or mod thinking..
"if my phone don't boot now I bricked my phone". "$1k is going down the drain if it don't boot in the next 2 min.."
Thank god we don't have that today. Back then flashing roms was living on the edge
Probably the most scary I've done is gaining s-off on our desire. http://alpharev.nl/
Several times the terminal returned some type of error and you're ready to smack your phone in the table :crying:
I had totally forgotten about "remote not allowed "! I hate that.
I've gotten that message so many times when rooting a phone and then suddenly it just works..
I think I eventually gave up on rooting the Wildfire S because of this error message..I followed the guide correctly but it did not work.
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and there we have Scary , Jtag Method for recovering form hardbrick .... any how those were amazing days ,
i have been using Xperia z ultra and i have bricked it for almost 10 times how ever sony flashing utilities are awsome by which i can revive the phone in minute to stock and flashtools is your freind for recoveries.... i am loving this time
http://www.vendetodito.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/JTAG-Android.jpg
any how , AMon_ra guide about HTC magic rooting was an amazing if any one follows is properly then its amazing guide... @Amon_RA
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Hello Everyone.
I have an Z2 tablet which i love very much, and yesterday i unlocked my bootloader and installed CWM. Everything was woorking great until i booted up z2 first the sony logo came up and then xperian logo and after xperian it freezes and turn off and on.... boot loop ish. Then i tried to make a hard reset , didn't work. After Hard reset i turned it on and i'm stuck on SONY logo. I have the SGP521 WIFI + LTE.
Ps also tried wipe data and stuff from CWM didn't work
CAN ALSO GET INTO CWM but not more than that D:
Sorry for bad English. i hope you will understand
NicklasFox said:
Hello Everyone.
I have an Z2 tablet which i love very much, and yesterday i unlocked my bootloader and installed CWM. Everything was woorking great until i booted up z2 first the sony logo came up and then xperian logo and after xperian it freezes and turn off and on.... boot loop ish. Then i tried to make a hard reset , didn't work. After Hard reset i turned it on and i'm stuck on SONY logo. I have the SGP521 WIFI + LTE.
Ps also tried wipe data and stuff from CWM didn't work
CAN ALSO GET INTO CWM but not more than that D:
Sorry for bad English. i hope you will understand
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Aaargh, it is unnerving that recently the forum members have to deal again and again with people who don't read properly and flash wrong kernels.
OK, LAST TIME:
You must first know which firmware (.36, .55, .69 or .402) you have on your tablet.
Then you must flash the right kernel for that firmware (and for your device, be it WiFi or LTE) (which you obviously didn't) - yes, there are different ones, and it all is written already in the CWM thread.
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Aaargh, it is unnerving that recently the forum members have to deal again and again with people who don't read properly and flash wrong kernels.
OK, LAST TIME:
You must first know which firmware (.36, .55, .69 or .402) you have on your tablet.
Then you must flash the right kernel for that firmware (and for your device, be it WiFi or LTE) (which you obviously didn't) - yes, there are different ones, and it all is written already in the CWM thread.
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Ok, so i was an idiot for not checking that. :silly:
But are there any solutions for the problem? I can't get it to turn on so x3
Please stop that laziness and read the forums, dude!
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Please stop that laziness and read the forums, dude!
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Is that constant "newbee bashing" really necessary ?
YOU know where to read, YOU know how to do things. Others don't.
YOU may find important information at the first glance. Others don't.
YOU may succeed extracting just the right information from a hell of technical terms. Others don't.
Remember that old song from "Sesame Street" ? - In German, because you're German: "Wer nicht fragt, bleibt dumm." - "You won't learn anything if you don't ask."
Now people ask because they need help. So help them or let it be - but don't bash them for asking. Please.
We're here for helping each other, aren't we ?
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Is that constant "newbee bashing" really necessary ?
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Rather ask: Are these constant posts and constant new threads of people who do complicated, potentially dangerous things without proper reading and proper understanding (and then crying for help) really necessary?
For many, many years tech people had a slogan: "RTFM!" A very true statement!
And this applies here, too.
And it's in the forum rules of XDA that a user, before asking or requesting something, should first properly read through the forums whether his question has been answered already.
Someone who doesn't have a couple of spare hours (which are at least needed) to read the forums and to get knowledge how things are done and to double-check and again double-check before going into action simply either should refrain from things like unlocking, rooting, modding etc. or should at least not AGAIN try to cut corners when something went wrong by simply posting "HALP! BRICKED! WHAT SHALL I DO?", but at least THEN start to RTFM.
This is why people like Franco of Franco Kernel SEEM "rude" when they write in their OPs that you should inform yourself properly or otherwise shouldn't install the kernel or at least should refrain from "HALP!" posts or such. They are simply fed up with that. Understandable.
Or, another comparison and even with more negative consequences: Someone releases, say, a root app in the play store and gets tons of one-star reviews just because people with unrooted devices who can't read complain "Wohoo, the app doesn't work at all! Crap!"
hasenbein1966 said:
Rather ask: Are these constant posts and constant new threads of people who do complicated, potentially dangerous things without proper reading and proper understanding (and then crying for help) really necessary?
For many, many years tech people had a slogan: "RTFM!" A very true statement!
And this applies here, too.
And it's in the forum rules of XDA that a user, before asking or requesting something, should first properly read through the forums whether his question has been answered already.
Someone who doesn't have a couple of spare hours (which are at least needed) to read the forums and to get knowledge how things are done and to double-check and again double-check before going into action simply either should refrain from things like unlocking, rooting, modding etc. or should at least not AGAIN try to cut corners when something went wrong by simply posting "HALP! BRICKED! WHAT SHALL I DO?", but at least THEN start to RTFM.
This is why people like Franco of Franco Kernel SEEM "rude" when they write in their OPs that you should inform yourself properly or otherwise shouldn't install the kernel or at least should refrain from "HALP!" posts or such. They are simply fed up with that. Understandable.
Or, another comparison and even with more negative consequences: Someone releases, say, a root app in the play store and gets tons of one-star reviews just because people with unrooted devices who can't read complain "Wohoo, the app doesn't work at all! Crap!"
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In my defense i looked up on Google and couldn't find any solution. And because it's pretty new it's really hard to find ANY solutions. (I DID SOLVE MY PROBLEM AT LAST, WITH SOME HELP FROM FRIENDLY XDA MEMBERS)
XDA is my home when i haven't found any solutions, members are always nice telling me where to or how to fix things. They even do point out nicely if i haven't checked XDA. You do the opposite and attack on new people. :/ Oh well just a reminder don't make people feel bad because they don't know.
I'm searching and can't find the answer. How did you solved it? It would help others if you share your solution.
Thanks
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In my defense i looked up on Google and couldn't find any solution. And because it's pretty new it's really hard to find ANY solutions. (I DID SOLVE MY PROBLEM AT LAST, WITH SOME HELP FROM FRIENDLY XDA MEMBERS)
XDA is my home when i haven't found any solutions, members are always nice telling me where to or how to fix things. They even do point out nicely if i haven't checked XDA. You do the opposite and attack on new people. :/ Oh well just a reminder don't make people feel bad because they don't know.
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So someone said that if your device dies it can still be detected by adb or something , could someone explain those steps or add in something else I can do to save this kindle.
Heres how I got it bricked.
I changed my build.prop and I forgot to set the permissions to 644, then after shutting down my kindle, it did nothing but pop up to the gray screen and then straight to the black screen.
Same here, but mine seems to have lost root in the process: when I try to mount and chmod through adb, I get "Operation not permitted" and "read-only file system".
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Same here, but mine seems to have lost root in the process: when I try to mount and chmod through adb, I get "Operation not permitted" and "read-only file system".
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Exactly same here
wow
Sounds like Amazon locked up ecosystem just got them a pile of returns...
How many threads do we need on same basic subject...because somebody didnt listen the first time somone was walking them though something that they probably shouldn't have been doing to begin with...without days of research...let's have 5 threads one first page of general discussing bricks caused by prop build edits... And people complain because they can't find anything....... right now I believe typing skills are completely overrated because people's fingers are working faster than their eyes and their comprehension level... It's easier to type a question over and over again and expect individual independent attention that it is to read obviously.... Not pointing fingers at OP but the few of us that are here to help are stretched pretty thin over all these threads discussing the same thing....end rant. Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2781665&page=3 post # 66
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Sounds like Amazon locked up ecosystem just got them a pile of returns...
How many threads do we need on same basic subject...because somebody didnt listen the first time somone was walking them though something that they probably shouldn't have been doing to begin with...without days of research...let's have 5 threads one first page of general discussing bricks caused by prop build edits... And people complain because they can't find anything....... right now I believe typing skills are completely overrated because people's fingers are working faster than their eyes and their comprehension level... It's easier to type a question over and over again and expect individual independent attention that it is to read obviously.... Not pointing fingers at OP but the few of us that are here to help are stretched pretty thin over all these threads discussing the same thing....end rant. Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2781665&page=3 post # 66
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Its no problem because my new replacement kindle is already here but I know there will be a method soon, thats why I made this thread to get some advice for MY problem.
Also if the first method didnt work for me , what would you expect?
Could you also read every word in my starting thread please?
sure
Ause said:
Its no problem because my new replacement kindle is already here but I know there will be a method soon, thats why I made this thread to get some advice for MY problem.
Also if the first method didnt work for me , what would you expect?
Could you also read every word in my starting thread please?
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I'm glad you got your replacement ....
And like I said there are many threads here for the exact problem you had... Believe me you are not the only one that did this.. And now we have everybody that can help trying to chime in on 10 different threads to say the same thing to fix the same problems.. Your problem was not unique trust me. For example this thread was buried under at least 5 I brick my kindle threads and pushed to second page..read OP and last two page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588608... The point is there was no clear answer at the time you were seeking one and you were inpatient you walked away from the think tank to seek yet more individual attention and so did a bunch of people. When all along you were getting individual attention back in the main thread when you made a mistake and forgot to do something.... So let's complicate the already difficult feet in finding information on this forum by burying them under repeat threads that info and clarity are patchy at best because anybody that can help is trying to be everywhere at the same time...end rant
I knew once people start touch the prop there would be a flood of brickings on the forum. BE CAREFUL WITH BUILD.PROP.
Even I bricked a rom slot messin around. If your unsure about something, DON'T TOUCH IT.
Words of advice.
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Faznx92 said:
I knew once people start touch the prop there would be a flood of brickings on the forum. BE CAREFUL WITH BUILD.PROP.
Even I bricked a rom slot messin around. If your unsure about something, DON'T TOUCH IT.
Words of advice.
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+1. I thought I did it NEasy way I used Rom manager lite to edit prop build just scroll down edit all lines properly reboot you don't have to mess with the permissions the application takes care of it...worked great. Probably could've used any prop build editing app.
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I knew once people start touch the prop there would be a flood of brickings on the forum. BE CAREFUL WITH BUILD.PROP.
Even I bricked a rom slot messin around. If your unsure about something, DON'T TOUCH IT.
Words of advice.
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Or how about just don't touch the build.prop at all and wait for Hashcode to update Safestrap?
done
failed1234 said:
Or how about just don't touch the build.prop at all and wait for Hashcode to update Safestrap?
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Moot,yet another redundant abandoned thread I assume. haven't heard back from op.if I had to guess I would guess another false warranty claim do to ignorance an impatients https://developer.amazon.com/public...etting-up-your-kindle-fire-tablet-for-testing this has gotten adb working for most people
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Moot,yet another redundant abandoned thread I assume. haven't heard back from op.if I had to guess I would guess another false warranty claim do to ignorance an impatients https://developer.amazon.com/public...etting-up-your-kindle-fire-tablet-for-testing this has gotten adb working for most people
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I'd like to put out that your ranting isnt helping anything, maybe if you could be calm and just lead some people in a direction, everything can go nice, but no we have ignorant people like you that think they know all about knidles and stuff copy and pasting a bunch of links that dont work.
ok
Ause said:
I'd like to put out that your ranting isnt helping anything, maybe if you could be calm and just lead some people in a direction, everything can go nice, but no we have ignorant people like you that think they know all about knidles and stuff copy and pasting a bunch of links that dont work.
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Well the last link that I pasted work for me and it has helped at least six other people get their ADB working again if you would read all the other brick threads I have helped several people . My thanks meter didn't go from 5 to 48 in a week just because of the rants I have been a member here for a couple of years now and I never posted anything until the last few months no questions no threads all I did was read read read and I have solved all my problems. And I am no developer a simple mechanic. I currently own three HDX, 2, 7 inch 1 8.9 one S4 still on MdK bootloader running KitKat a Tab a 3 10.1 a tab 3 7.0 a Moto razr m with a unlock bootloader that was done a year ago and a note 10.0 all of them rooted and custom and those are just me and my girls devices not including the children's there are also both tab 2 7.0 and NO BRICKS ( currently of course) not one time have I started a thread. Or even thought adout it with a question that has been answered or at least asked in several other threads. Before doing my own homework and my own research. I did not type my first word on this forum until last few months. So excuse me if I believe a person is responsible for doing their own homework and their own research before asking others of their free time to come rescue me. The only thing that doesn't work here apparently is the comprehension level. And the refusal or inability to follow directions. And the wishes for a 1 click answer which currently is not available for this device. Happy hunting ..... I didnt find all this links " that don't work " by not doing my own research. I was the first person back in the thread u broke ur device in... To successfully follow his original and vague Op...with success and no problems...so like in yo terms whatevea
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I'm glad you got your replacement ....
And like I said there are many threads here for the exact problem you had... Believe me you are not the only one that did this.. And now we have everybody that can help trying to chime in on 10 different threads to say the same thing to fix the same problems.. Your problem was not unique trust me. For example this thread was buried under at least 5 I brick my kindle threads and pushed to second page..read OP and last two page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588608... The point is there was no clear answer at the time you were seeking one and you were inpatient you walked away from the think tank to seek yet more individual attention and so did a bunch of people. When all along you were getting individual attention back in the main thread when you made a mistake and forgot to do something.... So let's complicate the already difficult feet in finding information on this forum by burying them under repeat threads that info and clarity are patchy at best because anybody that can help is trying to be everywhere at the same time...end rant
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jimyv said:
Well the last link that I pasted work for me and it has helped at least six other people get their ADB working again if you would read all the other brick threads I have helped several people . My thanks meter didn't go from 5 to 48 in a week just because of the rants I have been a member here for a couple of years now and I never posted anything until the last few months no questions no threads all I did was read read read and I have solved all my problems. And I am no developer a simple mechanic. I currently own three HDX, 2, 7 inch 1 8.9 one S4 still on MdK bootloader running KitKat a Tab a 3 10.1 a tab 3 7.0 a Moto razr m with a unlock bootloader that was done a year ago and a note 10.0 all of them rooted and custom and those are just me and my girls devices not including the children's there are also both tab 2 7.0 and NO BRICKS ( currently of course) not one time have I started a thread. Or even thought adout it with a question that has been answered or at least asked in several other threads. Before doing my own homework and my own research. I did not type my first word on this forum until last few months. So excuse me if I believe a person is responsible for doing their own homework and their own research before asking others of their free time to come rescue me. The only thing that doesn't work here apparently is the comprehension level. And the refusal or inability to follow directions. And the wishes for a 1 click answer which currently is not available for this device. Happy hunting ..... I didnt find all this links " that don't work " by not doing my own research. I was the first person back in the thread u broke ur device in... To successfully follow his original and vague Op...with success and no problems...so like in yo terms whatevea
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Btw , that's not even including the sold six droid Razr's 2 droid x2 and I was a member at droidRazr.com for year prior ever joining this forum.. So as useless as you found my information I have got along just fine thank you. Just because I will not an expert and wasn't willing to hold your hand and spend hours typing all this stuff out personally I was referring you to perfectly good information that had work for me or have been known fixes for many others.. Don't blame me and my rants for your inabilities comprehend and follow directions.. Remember I am not the one that got in a hurry mess up my device and send it in for a false warranty claim due to my own negligence.
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Btw , that's not even including the sold six droid Razr's 2 droid x2 and I was a member at droidRazr.com for year prior ever joining this forum.. So as useless as you found my information I have got along just fine thank you. Just because I will not an expert and wasn't willing to hold your hand and spend hours typing all this stuff out personally I was referring you to perfectly good information that had work for me or have been known fixes for many others.. Don't blame me and my rants for your inabilities comprehend and follow directions.. Remember I am not the one that got in a hurry mess up my device and send it in for a false warranty claim due to my own negligence.
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It would be better if you could stop with your rants, like forreal no one cares.
stop spamming peoples threads with useless rants
Ause said:
It would be better if you could stop with your rants, like forreal no one cares.
stop spamming peoples threads with useless rants
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kinda like ur thread yo.
Apparently you are the only one that has been offended. My rants have been thanked more than your pathetic attempts at rebuttals no rant ,good day to you sir.
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Please close or delete thread Moderator per first rule of forum poster did not search before post several threads were started before this one with same problem..poster did not follow though to a productive result.. Therefore containing no useful information thank you.
Still having a problem that has not been solved in any other threads, I downloaded the QTSP 9008 driver and still nothing.
Please dont reply unless you have some helpful information
this has turned into something else but rants seem to happen because theres no progress
Calm your tits 's. I said it before and I'll say it again to everyone. Impatience = brick. Patience = knowledge. Don't rush it. Read up on what your doing to your $200+ electronic locked device. If you bricked it Amazon can unbrick it so return it. They don't lose a dime. If we're unlocked we will have more to offer but as of now it is how it is.:fingers-crossed:
help
Ause said:
Its no problem because my new replacement kindle is already here but I know there will be a method soon, thats why I made this thread to get some advice for MY problem.
Also if the first method didnt work for me , what would you expect?
Could you also read every word in my starting thread please?
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how did you get a replacement? could you pelase tell me?
go to
dex101010 said:
how did you get a replacement? could you pelase tell me?
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The Amazon site go to Kindle troubleshooting and it will show a place to leave your phone number if you would like them to call you they call you you answer you tell him it will not boot correctly and they will send you a refurbished unit. That is of course as long as it is not a black listed unit and you are the original purchaser so on and etc. or just be patient since you are the one that messed up your unit and do the responsible thing by fixing it yourself technically I would believe this would be a false warranty claim but do it at your own choosing and by the way they are making tons of project progress in the recovery of this device hopefully we will have something very very soon and you if you are still on the old firmware you may even get a full bootloader unlock.. Good luck whichever direction you do choose to go. just remember and heed the warnings on your next new device so you don't end in the same situation immediately like so many others here have done.
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
wow
Davengerr said:
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
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wow sorry bud but that's just way too much information to just drag over here to your thread it all depends on if you're capable of doing the job correctlyI would highly recommend going over to the development section and just start reading that is the only way you are going to know for sure is 250 peoples experiences not just one that comes over here to your thread and decides to give you a quick easy information. It is what it is.everything you dreamed of knowing about this device is here if you're willing to look for it...there are a bunch of very very recent development items that you're going to want to do your own homework on anyway not just one guy that thinks he knows it all come over here and help you screw up your device...good luck and enjoy your new Kindle
to sum it up there are risks with everything depending on ability to do proper research, comprehension level and ability to follow directions. .hell for some wiping their ass and tying their shoes have more risk than safestrap does when used properly.
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
lupin87 said:
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
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well I'm sorry that you haven't found many of my comments useful obviously you haven't read very many of them but obviously some of my more aggravated ones have caught your attention you're welcome to look at my profile and check out my activity for the last year and a half I helped over a dozen people fix their bricked devices and contributed and many many helpful links which resulted in nothing but people trolling and being lazy and lazier and lazier I am simply trying to get people to do as I did and research and find their own information before adding additional clutter tothe forums...it's fine to be a noob everybody has been a noob at one time. And when you spend enough time here and with enough devices you will figure out that you just cannot help lazy people that are unwilling to find their own research at least to an extent. You're welcome to spend hundreds of hours of your time running around the forums cutting and pasting links to help the lazy ones but soon you will figure out that's all you are doing is enabling a growing problem. in other words the more I have helped them the less they actually knew orlearn because of not doing something the long way.
as some would say anything worth having is worth earning it yourself for the hard work / research. I noticed that most of the folks that do exactly these kinds of threads all of a sudden think they know everything. And then brick because they don't know near as much as I they need to because somebody came over to their one thread and gave them a little information or a couple of links. that they only partially read anyway. And then they are starting another thread. Titled PLEASE HELP I BRICKED MY DEVICE!!! identical to 30 threads that are dealing with the identical situations and .I have personally been up for several hours at a timetrying to help these types of people and they just simply cannot follow directions. And or most the time trying to translate it and screw it up in the translation somehow and then run away and start another thread because they still cannot get it right no matter how many people are trying to help them or how many links you give them. It's a waste of resources and everybody's time.it's just unbelievable to me that all this information is here already if they would just go and find them. they just choose not to. or believe they do not have the time to read them and expect special treatment and or catered to for some reason...I'm sorry I made the time and I'm a busy man and it seems disrespectful to me for anybody else to think they deserve different treatment
so to sum it up you are welcome to spend even half as much time in these forums researching reading and dragging pasting and copying links and see if you don't get a little bitter when you like to come here and find stuff yourself and its all cluttered up with repetition and threads starting with a question that was answered in the thread that was right below theirs READ THE THREADS and learn from other peoples experiences. Then you will adequately realize the risk that you are taking. You are not getting enough information when you start one of these threads to go doing the modifications that people are doing. All the information is here .
that's annoying it happens way too often and a lot more often than my snappy comments..
i vote @jimyv for moderator
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i vote @jimyv for moderator
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Roflmfao
glad somebody still has a sense of humor lol I know from experience you can tend to get a little jaded hanging around here too much. I can't help but lurk though..I do own three HDX devices and development has been pretty much a dead fish.( until very recently I must say very cheesy) Compared to the other 15 devices that I maintain for myself and family. As a full-time mechanic and father I spend way too much time in here I know. and to those that have been insultedby what I have had to say I am probably speaking directly to you ,others probably just get a kick from me watching get aggravated. And many more out there that are silent know exactly what I am speaking of and refuse to help anybody anymore because said issues (much of the true talent) unfortunately,and that is the true loss.
Please admins do some cleaning here. A lot of tutorials is very bad ripoff of another tutorials.
I my case I can not find one logically structured tread with general info about G2 flashing, SW versions and so on.
A lot of people try to make a money, by giving wrong information an later ask money for help to unbrick others phones. This is just terrible!!!
I AM ANGRY DUE TO BAD TUTORIAL I BRICKED MY PHONE REAL BAD.
Please ,clean or make new rules for comment rights, to help other not brick their phones!!!!
Hi
I think problem is not tutorials, but people who used first random tut.
Im sorry you bricked your device, but root G2 is really easy and install twrp.
For root u can use DP Tools from android g2 section, and twrp u can get with autorec from playstore.
That's all, if u wanna use customized roms, u will need install Jelly Bean bootloader, it support kitkat/lollipop/aosp roms. LG G2 is unbrickable by software, every state can be repaired. So, search tutorial for you to unbrick device and use my steps to have full unlocked device and feel free to mods and roms
I just unbricked my G2 after 6 weeks so ask if you need anything to help you.
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Hi
I think problem is not tutorials, but people who used first random tut.
Im sorry you bricked your device, but root G2 is really easy and install twrp.
For root u can use DP Tools from android g2 section, and twrp u can get with autorec from playstore.
That's all, if u wanna use customized roms, u will need install Jelly Bean bootloader, it support kitkat/lollipop/aosp roms. LG G2 is unbrickable by software, every state can be repaired. So, search tutorial for you to unbrick device and use my steps to have full unlocked device and feel free to mods and roms
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Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
It is quite often that I found solution tread, first tree pages of comments are "nice work" , "good job" and so on , after fifth page real users actually give negative feedback. Now I am reading tread with 77 pages. I am in the middle and I still do not understand is it safe to use tutorial. And there are a lot of treads like this. XDA should give some rating possibility, to delete treads with wrong or not working properly solutions.
I am very disappointed in XDA.
MixXx2005 said:
Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
It is quite often that I found solution tread, first tree pages of comments are "nice work" , "good job" and so on , after fifth page real users actually give negative feedback. Now I am reading tread with 77 pages. I am in the middle and I still do not understand is it safe to use tutorial. And there are a lot of treads like this. XDA should give some rating possibility, to delete treads with wrong or not working properly solutions.
I am very disappointed in XDA.
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So, you mean u dont understand anything. I bricked my device few times, and i had no problem to recover this without any pay to anyone i know how to install cwm, rom, bootloader, how.. If you said we need pay for everything? Open your mind, if u are too lazy to read easy tutorials
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So, you mean u dont understand anything. I bricked my device few times, and i had no problem to recover this without any pay to anyone i know how to install cwm, rom, bootloader, how.. If you said we need pay for everything? Open your mind, if u are too lazy to read easy tutorials
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I can provide you with tons of treads in G2 sections, that is outdated or do not work from the begging.
I am reading these in terrible english written treads for straight two days and still nothing that wort been read!
As a matter of fact I am not a noob or total beginner ether....
You show u are, if no one before cried about G2 section everyone can mods, but not u, why? We should ask just u, this is not freakin magic
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I can provide you with tons of treads in G2 sections, that is outdated or do not work from the begging.
I am reading these in terrible english written treads for straight two days and still nothing that wort been read!
As a matter of fact I am not a noob or total beginner ether....
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So what doesn't work? Most of the things just do work normally but you need ofcourse to have the right bootloader version/modem just like on other devices. English isn't the main language for everybody so their English isn't perfect and so is mine but your's isn't 100% correct either. But they do contribute to the community and that breaks the barrier of languages.
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Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
It is quite often that I found solution tread, first tree pages of comments are "nice work" , "good job" and so on , after fifth page real users actually give negative feedback. Now I am reading tread with 77 pages. I am in the middle and I still do not understand is it safe to use tutorial. And there are a lot of treads like this. XDA should give some rating possibility, to delete treads with wrong or not working properly solutions.
I am very disappointed in XDA.
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MixXx2005 I don't know which threads you are in but I never had anybody ask me for money or steal credit card date? There might be people asking for money or idk exactly what all but that might be going on in the background especially. As some people brick their phone others want to unbrick it and ask money for shipping/not trying to destroy it. If you want to do it free then you have to do it yourself probably. The G2 community does give solutions but there were already so many Q&A threads or people who all ask the same question/don't read properly the threads that some people just don't react anymore.
I had read many unbricking/root tutorials when I just came to this community several months ago already and everything worked fine. Also the hardbrick fix method worked fine for me.
Btw if somebody steals your credit card date then why did you gave them it all? If you have those kinds of problems or want to report something about outdated content then just react on the thread, Contact the OP, and or in cases of scams and those stuff contact a moderator. Moderator and members don't always have time to check or everything is alright so people need to report the problems.
So about "I AM ANGRY DUE TO BAD TUTORIAL I BRICKED MY PHONE REAL BAD. "
You really have to read carefully for which G2 variant is was meant, it doesn't matter if you are experienced or not experienced people also make mistakes just like that I hardbricked my G2 after I left myself on an unrooted rom with no download mode and recovery.
If you can say the problem you have like what kind of bricks, more details then I could might help you for free. The thing it might only costs is time but that's worth it if you fix your brick into an working G2.
I will try to reply asap but school and some other stuff in life might make me forget this so if you have a question please quote or mention my name as I would only then receive a notification about it.
EDIT: I read your thread now about your qh_usb brick and I read the tutorial. The tutorial isn't misleading or whatsoever there could have been an issue due to drivers/binaries and or communication between your device and fastboot itself. The tutorial was also meant for if you had the same message on your screen.
Btw in which mode are you? QHUSB_BULK 9006 or 9008? About the exclamation marks do you have the proper drivers for it? You might need to install the drivers manually with device manager. If you can mention which mode then I could perhaps help. Maybe not immediately but I could probably help you to unbrick your phone .
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So what doesn't work? Most of the things just do work normally but you need ofcourse to have the right bootloader version/modem just like on other devices. English isn't the main language for everybody so their English isn't perfect and so is mine but your's isn't 100% correct either. But they do contribute to the community and that breaks the barrier of languages.
MixXx2005 I don't know which threads you are in but I never had anybody ask me for money or steal credit card date? There might be people asking for money or idk exactly what all but that might be going on in the background especially. As some people brick their phone others want to unbrick it and ask money for shipping/not trying to destroy it. If you want to do it free then you have to do it yourself probably. The G2 community does give solutions but there were already so many Q&A threads or people who all ask the same question/don't read properly the threads that some people just don't react anymore.
I had read many unbricking/root tutorials when I just came to this community several months ago already and everything worked fine. Also the hardbrick fix method worked fine for me.
Btw if somebody steals your credit card date then why did you gave them it all? If you have those kinds of problems or want to report something about outdated content then just react on the thread, Contact the OP, and or in cases of scams and those stuff contact a moderator. Moderator and members don't always have time to check or everything is alright so people need to report the problems.
So about "I AM ANGRY DUE TO BAD TUTORIAL I BRICKED MY PHONE REAL BAD. "
You really have to read carefully for which G2 variant is was meant, it doesn't matter if you are experienced or not experienced people also make mistakes just like that I hardbricked my G2 after I left myself on an unrooted rom with no download mode and recovery.
If you can say the problem you have like what kind of bricks, more details then I could might help you for free. The thing it might only costs is time but that's worth it if you fix your brick into an working G2.
I will try to reply asap but school and some other stuff in life might make me forget this so if you have a question please quote or mention my name as I would only then receive a notification about it.
EDIT: I read your thread now about your qh_usb brick and I read the tutorial. The tutorial isn't misleading or whatsoever there could have been an issue due to drivers/binaries and or communication between your device and fastboot itself. The tutorial was also meant for if you had the same message on your screen.
Btw in which mode are you? QHUSB_BULK 9006 or 9008?
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Thanks for your replay.
After all day of reading tons of useless information finally unbrick my phone. Now it is fully functional again.
I will explain why I am mad.
1st after official update my phone start to act weird (now i know what caused it, and it do not matter), then after I try to flash stock FW I stuck at LG logo. I found two different tutorials and both of them showed contradictory steps, I decided to follow one of them and like I said get error and booting till LG logo.
Next due to bad tutorial I erase all partitions with fastboot. But in the tut. was not said anything about proper way to do it. So after that tut. I get real brick. Still everyone can brick their phone following it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/mega-tut-how-to-fix-bricked-lg-g2-t3055033 (3. step - how can I know that I should modify provided code with my .img file path? Where is something said about it?)
Then I read FAMOUS "LG G2 is UNBRICKABLE NOW! [FIX REAL HARD BRICK]" . After that I tried to short out test pins. Again I found contradictory informations about test point locations.
To get any life in my dead phone ,I try them both, and luckily I did not damaged eMMC.
There are a lot of wrong information how you should act in different situations in these topics, and these things can permanently destroy your hardware and there are no highlights or any warning about it.
So after qh_usb brick win 7 was unable to detect drivers, but somehow randomly after several hours of search, I found correct Qualqomm drivers, after that the device manager showed connection with 9008 mode brick. Then after I read whole
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830/page42
5th page before end ,give me right tool to fix my phone. tons of contradictory info there - truly TONS.
I can give you treads , where people do not give right topics, but instead give their FB and later ask for money.
Also I can give you proofs about those who said that they will help you for free in TeamViewer and quietly install keyloggers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830/ (read this tread , somewhere in middle of it, there are a lot of proofs)
It took me around 15 h with intense bulls*it filtering to get my phone in order.
And the most annoying thing , is that this all, what I describe previously , could be done in 15 min, if there would be ONE normal tread.
If all other/bad/misleading treads would be deleted, then my troubles would not been started in 1st place.
But like I said before this G2 community is terrible from beginners point of view.
Ok here is one thing
1. before doing anything search ( I agree that you will find a lot of outdated threads -- not useless but mostly outdated)
2. There is a help section with people who will understand where the error is and try to help you out
3. Most of the people here ask a question, solve the issue and just write: "fixed", without writing how and possibly contributing
Honestly, If I were a mod I would just delete their useless threads, always thinking of themselves
There isn't any magic tool that will fit everyones needs, people who are new just click random
I hope you fixed the device
bender_007 said:
Ok here is one thing
1. before doing anything search ( I agree that you will find a lot of outdated threads -- not useless but mostly outdated)
2. There is a help section with people who will understand where the error is and try to help you out
3. Most of the people here ask a question, solve the issue and just write: "fixed", without writing how and possibly contributing
Honestly, If I were a mod I would just delete their useless threads, always thinking of themselves
There isn't any magic tool that will fit everyones needs, people who are new just click random
I hope you fixed the device
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Thanks, everything is good now. But I disagree - there are a lot of wrong and often contradicting treads and a lot of people that make their salary due to this.
I think admins should ban a lot of users here and also implement some kind of tread and user ranking. Because there are also people that do not know anything( I my point of view, they are just helpful fools ,that do not understand what they can cause with their misleading information) ,but they tried to help by just posting random s*it they were hear somewhere else. And I as desperate beginner can make much worse brick by following the advice.
MixXx2005 said:
I can give you treads , where people do not give right topics, but instead give their FB and later ask for money.
Also I can give you proofs about those who said that they will help you for free in TeamViewer and quietly install keyloggers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830/ (read this tread , somewhere in middle of it, there are a lot of proofs)
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What proofs of keyloggers? I read it but didnt found anything..
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What proofs of keyloggers? I read it but didnt found anything..
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Post #63 and below it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57454159&postcount=63
I don't believe this happened. There would be more people involved in such opinions then.
Tbh the thread name of yours is kind of embarasing for people who create free stuff for everyone.
If you have any issues with any user on xda there are mods and admins and you can report them.
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Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
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Odd.
Because I always found a solution for every problem I had, got an answer for every question. Even the most ridiculous ones.
So I disagree that the community is bad, quite the contrary. Every bit of info is here. You just have to read and understand what you've read.
And people here are nothing but helpful (most of them, at least).
P.S. as long as your G2 boots up, it is not bricked and it can be salvaged.
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. I read many posts with members stating that the thread is just too long to read. Then using that as an excuse for not reading at all. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
RayMcGrath said:
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
Bobbaloo said:
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great to have you. You're a big help to many folk.
5.1 said:
Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
RayMcGrath said:
You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
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Yeah I know how you feel! At least for me having no real technical knowledge, I'm always glad to find the solutions by myself. Since it's around and just needs a search it's even faster than waiting for an answer. Also, since I only need to search when my phone is broken, I simply can't wait for someone to answer. Imagine no one replied during two days...
Bobbaloo said:
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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This is the first place I found when I started to flash my HTC vision back in 2008. I started reading guides and development and was like: WTF these guys are cracking bootloader, carrier unlocking, etc... And all can be found so easily... :good: