Hi.
My x10 mini pro has terrible touchscreen issues while being on dc charger.
For example arranging icons is totally impossible and the upper panel keeps on showing up and stuff.
As a result the phone is almost unusable as long as it's on charger. But when charging via pc everything seems to be perfectly ok.
Anyone has the same problem? Or did I just get a defective device/charger?
Also, my battery lasts for only some 4-5 hrs. I've had the phone for 4 days now, so i'm still givin it quite a business, but 4 hours? Seriously..
Well I don't think that is normal , you better take it to where you purchased it and tell them about the whole thing that's not normal.
Thanks, the thing about the touch screen really *is* weird. How about the battery persistence?
Is your phone Android 1.6 or 2.1? I have the same problem before but the problem with my phone not only happens when it is being charged through charger but also while connected to USB port on a PC. I had it replaced with a new one. They said it is a hardware issue but others say it only happens when they upgraded from 1.6 to 2.1 so it is probably a 2.1 bug.
Well, to be honest, I dunno.. I've upgreded to 2.1 right away, so I don't remember if this appeared on 1.6 as well :\ But I don't wanna run on 1.6 anyways, so this doesn't bother me really
I had a similar problem on my mini pro but ONLY when using a charger other than the SE one that came with the phone; fine with PC USB charging or from the SE charger but goes crazy with false touchscreen presses or the TS failing to respond at all on one occasion until I figured out it was the non-SE charger. I think the issue may be that when using a stand-alone USB charger, the SE version supplies much more current than a standard USB port; presumably, when using a port on a PC the driver SW adjusts the charging current to compensate but non-SE chargers may not supply sufficient voltage under the charging draw the mini pro wants.
yeah~ just go for a ORIGINAL charger, don't buy a cheap one, buy a better one! it's the charger problem
My work-around
Hello all,
I'm experiencing the same problem and might have some new insights. I have tried multiple chargers including the Sony Ericsson charger that came with the phone. These are my findings:
- SE charger (wall socket 2 USB) (5V, 850mA) - The problem occurs, however I'm able to navigate
- Cheap Ebay charger (wall socket 2 USB) (5V, 1000mA) - The problem occurs, can't even get passed the lock screen
- Cheap charger (complete charger, no seperate USB cable needed) (5V, 550mA) - No problems
- Charging via USB of laptops and desktops with the USB cable that came with the phone (5V, 500mA) - No problems
Needless to say that with 500mA the charging takes very long.
BUT...here comes the kicker (and my solution):
- HTC ORIGINAL AC EU WALL Charger TC E250 USB ADAPTER (Wall socket 2 USB) (5V, 1000mA) - Charges fast and no problems.
So, in my case it seems as if the problem occurs while charging above 550mA and probably only with cheap chargers, including the SE one. The original HTC charger works like a charm.
I also found out that the touch controller is right next to where the micro USB connection is located. (google "Sony Xperia X10 Mini Pro Teardown and Analysis", I can't post links here...)
Apparently, bad chargers interfere. Hope this helps.
i do use original SE charger and don't even have another but what Neliscornelis posted might be useful THANKS!
I use original SE charger and haven't any problem
I get this problem to.. What i have to do is hold the lock button until the power off screen comes then cancel.. Also I have another problem when in calls.. the screen blacks out every time i try to end the call!! Does aqnyone else have this?
touchscreen problems
hi! i have similar problems!
that problems occur when connecting phone to my pc with original SE cable.
also tried with another original usb->microUsb SE cable, and problem stays...
no matter what charger I use, i always have same problems with touchscreen.
also I tested it with original htc charger and everything is same again, touch screen is registering multiple taps!
so, for now i tested this situations, and problem is always occurring:
-when connecting phone to pc with original SE cable
-when charging via wall outlet (tested with 2 original sony ericsson chargers)
-with original htc charger
only exception, when everything is working fine is when i plug phone in my car (via car lighter->usb adapter)
any solution?
thanks
I can confirm this bug. Original charger 1.6 and 2.1 all the same. The phone seems to be registering random touch events without any physical input.
Also, the proximity sensor doesn't seem to be working while charging. Combined with the false touches, making calls with the phone on charger isn't something i'd recommend.. :\
krishpeen said:
Hi.
My x10 mini pro has terrible touchscreen issues while being on dc charger.
For example arranging icons is totally impossible and the upper panel keeps on showing up and stuff.
As a result the phone is almost unusable as long as it's on charger. But when charging via pc everything seems to be perfectly ok.
Anyone has the same problem? Or did I just get a defective device/charger?
Also, my battery lasts for only some 4-5 hrs. I've had the phone for 4 days now, so i'm still givin it quite a business, but 4 hours? Seriously..
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I am experiencing this one too. I think it's the static from our skin.
I tried putting my finger in front of the screen like less than half inch above the surface (but not touching the screen), and it activates an icon. I can do it all over, so I know its not just a delay of the screen from a previous touch.
The notification bar above also goes like its going crazy or like flickering.
The touchscreen i think is plastic and not glass thats why it's prone to static.(not sure). but whatever that screen is made of, there's some sort of static going on.
Hi i think that the unresponsive screen is due to the fact that its actually oversensitive. i mean the screen is sometimes activated by the sides of the phone and the botton of the screen where the xperia logo is. I am wondering if there is a file that changes the screen sensibility? dont you know how to do it? rooting the phone or something?
Other idea im having is to dissasemble the phone and put something under the black plastic where the xperia logo is to reduce the sensibility of that area. any ideas?
I have record a video watch it to see what i mean with oversensitive. And yes this is a new out of the box xperia x10 mini
w w w . youtube . com/watch?v=hXg_IdRYyl8
mbolinao said:
I am experiencing this one too. I think it's the static from our skin.
I tried putting my finger in front of the screen like less than half inch above the surface (but not touching the screen), and it activates an icon. I can do it all over, so I know its not just a delay of the screen from a previous touch.
The notification bar above also goes like its going crazy or like flickering.
The touchscreen i think is plastic and not glass thats why it's prone to static.(not sure). but whatever that screen is made of, there's some sort of static going on.
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Unrelated effects. It isn't static, it is capacitance. These phones have a capacitive touchscreen and your body contributes to the electrostatic field that is part of basic capacitor physics so that it is possible to affect the field to register a touch by merely moving a finger close without actually touching. This is normal. The problem with random touches (when no finger is even near) and the charger problem is not normal.
Neliscornelis said:
BUT...here comes the kicker (and my solution):
- HTC ORIGINAL AC EU WALL Charger TC E250 USB ADAPTER (Wall socket 2 USB) (5V, 1000mA) - Charges fast and no problems.
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Dont get me wrong when i ask you this, but what do you think how much your battery like to be charged with that charger? How much you think it will last?
When i charged mine with original SE charger (5V, 850mA) it takes me less than 2hours to fully charge it.
When i charged with PC USB it takes it about 4-6hours.
So, im sticking to charging mine with PC USB..
krishpeen said:
...my battery lasts for only some 4-5 hrs. I've had the phone for 4 days now, so i'm still givin it quite a business, but 4 hours? Seriously..
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Really? Mine lasts 2 days with data traffic on, wi-fi, gSynh, gTalk and gMail always on (cause of my work).
Did you followed guides here on forum regarding a battery?
There is a guide of deleting batterystat.bin file in your phone (must be rooted)
batterystat.bin is file that Helps Android read your battery. Its not quite accurate, so, after every reflash/custom you should fully charge your battery and delete that file.
Process that i do after every reflash/restore/messing around.. I fully charge my battery via PC and leave it for ~30 more minutes. I delete mentioned file while my phone is connected via USB to PC, reboot phone and remove USB while it boots, that way, your android will see fully charged battery and pass that info in baterystat.bin, after that, im not connecting my phone until battery is fully depleted.. that way your baterystat.bin will have max and min values for battery. But, its only me, no one needs to follow this..
Also, i read that battery life can improve over time (until batterystat.bin hits the right values)..
Edit: Download Advanced Task Killer from market, it will help you kill unwanted tasks, thus saving your battery life.
Do you think that changing the digitizer will fix the issue?? Its like $20-$30 on ebay. And this phone its extreamely easy to open and change the digitizer in home!!
Or could this be a problem within the phone itself? i mean everything works except for the touchscreen!!
robsaw said:
Unrelated effects. It isn't static, it is capacitance. These phones have a capacitive touchscreen and your body contributes to the electrostatic field that is part of basic capacitor physics so that it is possible to affect the field to register a touch by merely moving a finger close without actually touching. This is normal. The problem with random touches (when no finger is even near) and the charger problem is not normal.
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guess i just used the wrong term. but i guess you get my point
but it never happened to my iPhone, and iPhones have capacitive touchscreens too
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Hi all,
I just want to share the solution I used to solve a big shared problem I had with my X10 Mini. During a call my battery went so down I couldn't even turn it on without any sign of hope. As we know in this cases the phone CAN'T charge itself cause it need a software "help" and without a minimal charge the phone is dead. In my case scenario even with Seus holding back the button couldn't solve it.
I decided to solve it without taking it to the 60km away SE support center and:
- taken apart a usb data phone cable
- divided the red wire and the black one
- considered that the USB port gives 5v at 0.5ma
- taken apart the phone case and the rubber cap on the top of the phone
- take out the battery wires connector from the logic board
- inserted red + wire into red hole of the battery connectore and same with the black ones
- connect it to the usb port of a spare computer (you could sacrifice it if something goes wrong)
- wait for a hour to have a good charge starting point
- disconnect everything, reconnect connector, close case and connect to the normal micro usb cable
- evrything will charge as usual.
NOTE: If someone try at his personal risk, BE CAREFUL cause if something cause wrong you could ruin battery, or logic board or pc motherboard!!!
See attachment.
Bye
Nice hack!
Thanks for sharing.
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Good job, but did u try to charge for a few hours without SIM card? Because I already drained completly and solved problem just removing SIM, putting to charge and waiting. After 2 or 3 hours the system start to charge normally.
WTF? This phone has this problem? Did 2.1 fix it? My wife has the habbit of letting her mobiles die.
I hope that she will not need to take out the SIM card every week to charge her phone.
Thanks for the share by the way.
Yeah this phone got this problem and it's quiet usual I see in different forums. But not always it drains so much like me. I did the BIG error to try a couple of times to turn it on. I tried any combinations of tricks with or withous sims differents ones, different buttons, different charger, etc.... No way! I think that SE support centers has got some kind of charger that has got the female connector of the battery to solve this problem.
Ah I now realised you have a mini and not a mini pro, as mini pro's can have their batteries removed.
I hope I will not have to solve this problem , any time soon.
Good to know anyway.
Hello everyone,
A friend of mine destroyed his X10a, says he dropped it, but looks like it was run over by a truck... At first sight it had the digitizer destroyed with flex cable completely cutoff, broken LCD and the battery sustained some damage.
Then he told me that if I could repair it, I could have it... Naturally I though, 'replace the broken parts, let's say ~$50 and new phone for me! but before running to eBay, I wanted to be sure that it only needed a new 'screen'
The first thing I did, press the power bottom (though that if it gave any signs of life I could just put my SIM card in and call from another phone, if it rang I would smile) and... a red led blinked 3 times, when lucky. As I have never 'played' with a X10, I had no clue what that meant so my quest for knowledge began... and after reading I found it meant low battery, so plugged it to a wall charger and the only thing I got was a blinking red light, same with plugging it to PC with USB cable, which I think it's suppose to mean bad battery. So left it overnight charging... and never got anything but a red light. (no orange light, no green light, not even a steady red one) and if I pressed and hold the power bottom, it would vibrate.
Well, time to open it and see if there's anything else I haven't seen... and after opening it, found that the keypad flex cable is almost cut off and it seems to have some damage in the lower right corner of the 'motherboard' (looking to
where the battery goes) near the antenna connector? (I'm assuming it's an antenna connector, the round thing with a hole, it's a little down from where the LCD connector is, will upload a photo, but at 5:42am I'm surprised I'm still writing...)
1. How can I test the 'motherboard' ensure that it's functional?
2. Does the X10 need the battery to turn on, or can it be turned on with just the wall charger (and no battery). Will it turn any light on?
3. Does any of the damaged parts (no digitizer, LCD or keypad) prevents it from turning it on? (guessing the keypad might). Hopefully someone really brave, thirsty for knowledge and dieing to help will open their X10 and try to turn it on after various combination of disconnected components, let's say without LCD, digitizer or keypad... just to analyze it's behavior and help me...
4. Any idea? or just not my lucky day?
P.S. When I plugged it in to the computer it was as if it wasn't there... PC Companion and SEUS did not recognize it (not even windows 'sees' it)
Thanks in advance!
...Yey! my first post in this forum!
Hi,
almost all of phones I had ever serviced needed plugged batterry.
You may even need the thermistor (middle pin), because phone controls resistance and temperature of original baterry. I am not sure about X10i,but power supply is nessesary I`will take my multimeter and check it out once in home
But before plugging any power source, be careful about static electricity and check if any of flex cables are not short-circuited!
A also may provide complete PCB schematics if it could help you (but they are very very difficult )
A 2-year-old model that looks as if it had been run over by a truck is not worth the hassle, imho.
First test a new battery in a shop
And i think that u say keyboard then it would be x10 mini pro
iridaki said:
A 2-year-old model that looks as if it had been run over by a truck is not worth the hassle, imho.
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It depends of sense with you are using your phone - my old 3410 and K310i still looks like new. Unless batterry exploded...
My phones were used very often then
sahibunlimited said:
First test a new battery in a shop
And i think that u say keyboard then it would be x10 mini pro
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No, he spoke about keypad. But doesn`t depend on model - baterry is dead I thought.
But better is if he use stabilised power station instead.
HeliumX10 said:
My phones were used very often then
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It's one thing to use and another thing to destroy!!
Anyone noticed this problem? I'm using aftermarket charger (copy of iPhone charger from DX), and after 3 hours of charging phone started behaving strange. While typing, it inserted random letters. The faster I tried to type, the more of random keypresses. Scrolling is almost impossible, because almost immediatelly instead of moving content phone registers touch on screen and tries to behave like that. Only when i put my whole finger with medium pressure and move slowly, I'm able to scroll. Else it just randomly "clicks" on screen.
First I thought that it is some kind of trojan/virus, tested with ESET and no change, restarted phone multiple times, no change. Strange is, that phone was charging since morning and it worked well. Maybe battery is now fully charged and it started behaving like this. After removing it form charger, it starts working correctly again in 5-10s. Tried even different charger from my colleague, same behavior (but it is also OEM without brand name). Tried also reversing charger in outlet, no change. Different outlet no change.
At home I charge with old iPad charger with 2m cable and it never happened...
Assume that I have to get some better charger (original from phone doesnt fit our EU plugs), but still i'm bit afraid that even new one could behave this way.
Yes I had that problem with several phones from different manufacturers: Atrix, Galaxy S ll and MyTouch4G. It is the 3 party charger that can mess things up. In case of my GSll it was even with the original charger.
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Wlk said:
Anyone noticed this problem? I'm using aftermarket charger (copy of iPhone charger from DX), and after 3 hours of charging phone started behaving strange. While typing, it inserted random letters. The faster I tried to type, the more of random keypresses. Scrolling is almost impossible, because almost immediatelly instead of moving content phone registers touch on screen and tries to behave like that. Only when i put my whole finger with medium pressure and move slowly, I'm able to scroll. Else it just randomly "clicks" on screen.
First I thought that it is some kind of trojan/virus, tested with ESET and no change, restarted phone multiple times, no change. Strange is, that phone was charging since morning and it worked well. Maybe battery is now fully charged and it started behaving like this. After removing it form charger, it starts working correctly again in 5-10s. Tried even different charger from my colleague, same behavior (but it is also OEM without brand name). Tried also reversing charger in outlet, no change. Different outlet no change.
At home I charge with old iPad charger with 2m cable and it never happened...
Assume that I have to get some better charger (original from phone doesnt fit our EU plugs), but still i'm bit afraid that even new one could behave this way.
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Sounds like a noisy charger that is seriously screwing up the touch sensing. Use a high quality charger from Samsung/HTC/Apple, and make sure it is a genuine one.
Ever since sometime yesterday or something. My phone has been steadily discharging whilst plugged in.
I charged my phone to full yesterday and noticed that it was charging a bit slowly.. but eventually it got there.
Then I unplugged it and plugged in a really low battery (4%) to charge it to full overnight (I have 2 batteries)
I woke up to the phone at 26% after an entire night of charging (about 8 hours).
I thought that the battery must be dead. It's a cheap one from Ebay but it has the official sticker on it, but it's a bit creased so it looks like it could be a cheaper one with a fake sticker on it. It always used to last about 20% less than the original one I got with the phone anyway. But that isn't the point.
I thought it must be dead. But I charged it a little before work and nope, it just kept dying. So I started worrying if the charger had died.
Then I just swapped the battery out and decided to use the fully charged one.
After about a days use I went to plug it in and it ALSO started discharging whilst being plugged in.
In fact they seem to discharge FASTER if plugged in.
I immediately thought that the little Wall Socket to USB Adapter had just blown. So I unplugged it and just plugged the phone in via my PC's USB 2.0 Port.. Same thing.. it sits on the same Percentage (%) and then gradually (if I use it at all) it starts to discharge.
It's charging so slowly that if I use it at the same time it'll die. When before I could even have a Skype call and keep it plugged in and it would overcharge through the amount of power I was using.
Does anyone have any ideas? It can't be the battery because both of them are dying no matter one, and they can't have both died. It might not be the little USB charger (although it no longer gets hot like it used to) because if I plug the phone straight into a USB port on my PC (I know the mW is lower but it should still prove if the charger is dead or not) then it still discharges.
Any ideas? I mean... it looks like somehow the USB port is no longer taking a charge? Without my phone I am a dead man.. it will totally mess up my work and everything...
Have you used a different cable? You said you plugged it into your PC USB port but you didn't say with which cable.
I don't have another cable :/ as it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
9/10 it's the cable that's the fault.
It's not proprietary. I walked into a shop and said "2 micro USB cables please" and they both work better. Also my HTC and blackberry micro USB cables both work better. Try another cable. Borrow one if you have to
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I have a micro USB cable.. it's for my HDD and it doesn't fit. It's a little bit too big. The last HDD I had too was the same, just a bit too big. Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
Also, I tried doing a file copy from the phone to my PC and back and forth. The speed is totally fine, really fast.
So could it still really be the phone? I'm a pessimist and I don't see why the cable would just suddenly die... I've already had my phone replaced on one of the 'sudden death' issues like everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if there's yet another hardware fault...
At the moment it's off, and charging from the wall.
EDIT: Maybe it's a Mini-USB not a Micro.. in that case I have 1 Micro USB. Still I think my phone just died somehow overnight................. again.
leijonasisu said:
it's a proprietary one... I can't just use some normal micro USB..
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what? yes you can
Well cables are expensive in Finland but I suppose I have no choice but to bike down into town and buy another cable...
Most hdd caddies are indeed mini
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leijonasisu said:
Maybe it's not proprietary but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the traditional Micro USB.
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no, your phone uses a traditional micro USB. and data speed is not really connected to charging speed
New cord seems to have fixed it. 'Hama' brand (Finnish) triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors. Looks a lot higher quality than the traditional Samsung one. (Unshielded, no gold plating)
Also it's a bit longer, which I dunno if that will affect the rate of current. I know that shorter is better. It's 1.8m vs the older 1m.
Seems to be charging properly now, still a bit slow (phone is off) but I suppose that could just be the battery getting used to actually receiving a proper current finally.
Christ and I almost went and just bought an iPhone...
If in the end it was just the cord then €12.95 bought me peace of mind.
EDIT: Scratch that
It won't charge if the phone is on at the same time... it just sits at the same level of power. But if I use it, yeah it starts to discharge.
So basically it's lost the ability to charge whilst being used, and on top of that it did charge pretty slowly when turned off, but at least it did.
Looks like I'm going to have to sort out a way to fix it, then maybe sell it and get something else. I can't handle a phone that's such a disappointment.
The Galaxy S2 was a bit of a let down, to RMAs to Samsung now...
leijonasisu said:
triple shielded, with some gold plated connectors..
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sounds like something Monster cables would sell
Shame that it doesn't seem to have done the trick.
I'm really confused now. The battery I got off the net doesn't seem to be charging really at all, but ever so slowly when the phone is off.
The other battery, my normal OEM one charged sorta slowly but kinda normally I guess..
Really don't know what on earth is going on. It's going to be a total pain to get this thing repaired a second time, and it's been rooted and flashed multiple times. Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
So the oem battery charges normally?
leijonasisu said:
Plus it has the new bootloader on it that you can't possibly trick that it's been rooted.. (was installed after a fix on warranty)
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of course you can, use TA
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
Glebun said:
So the oem battery charges normally?
of course you can, use TA
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Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
tigerporc said:
You may have a faulty charging port (if not battery problem)
Why not download the Galaxy Charging Current app and see if your SIII is charging at 1000mA using wall charger?
Galaxy Charging Current
BTW - Other than faulty charge cable, it could also be faulty wall charger
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Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
Summery:
Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
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Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
leijonasisu said:
Well I wouldn't say normally, it was pretty slow but there was definite noticable improvement.
Thanks so much for the app. I bought the pro seeing as it's only 0.50c
Now this is really confusing. I'm gonna do some testing now:
On the cheaper battery Ebay Battery Using New 1.8m Shielded Cable With the OEM Wall Charger
If I plug the cord straight in from the wall charger without moving it the power starts off at 1000, then goes down to about 900, then after awhile to about 400, and then after awhile longer to 100. But I can't be sure that I am not bumping the cord even a tiny bit. Also the battery is at 94% so it could just be shutting off the charge in order to not overcharge. (Though before the issue the batteries always charged to 100%).
If I move the cord around and tap refresh the number drops by 100 - 200 every time I press refresh (all the way down to 100). Also if I move the cord perfectly back into the middle, the number doesn't go back up. It's like the more I move the cord around the lower the charge will be. If I leave the phone alone for a bit and look at it again after a minute, the rate has gone back up to 1000, then down to 900. Where it seems to stay.
The statusbar battery app shows that it is charging too (% is going up as normal)
At 97% charged on the cheap battery the phone only accepts a maximum current of 300. So it seems that the overcharge protection is working.
Though the battery can display fully charged and then drop to 97% after I unplug the cord. Which didn't happen before but it's an understandable thing.
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Moving the cord a lot causes the rate to drop dramatically.
When plugged in the current starts off at a full 1000, then drops to 900 (dunno if this is normal) so it seems to start off charging at max
The max concurrent, current that can be achieved from the wall charger with new shielded cable is 900-100 it seems.
The phone seems to discharge faster when plugged in (and current on 100) than when it's unplugged??!
Could someone please install the free app (Galaxy Charging Current), who isn't experiencing issues like me and wiggle their cord around and see if the rate drops too? I want to know if there's some sort of methodology that if the cord is moved around a lot the current rate is dropped, and it won't return to normal. Or if it's just my phone. Thanks so much!
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Ok... tested with everything I could honestly think of. Ebay/OEM Battery, Both OEM/New Cord and USB/Wall chargers and etc,
Basically it's like this. Both cords are fine. Both charge the phone just as fast. Using the wall charger is faster than using a USB. (But not if the cord has wiggled so much that the rate has dropped lower than what as USB gives)
The current rate only drops when the cord is moved, and here is the crucial thing:
When the cord is moved the rate drops anywhere from 100 all the way to 900. Meaning that the rate of charge can go from 1000 (max) down to 100 (absolutely nothing). Either in 1 go, or in bits every time the cord moves. Also if the cord moves EVEN ONCE, even the smallest bit the rate can just drop on its own.
So basically it seems that somehow there charging port has been damaged or something and the pins are no longer connecting and the phone or charger or SOMETHING has this incredibly bloody stupid thing where if the cord moves or if the rate drops, it doesn't go back up. So if the rate drops all the way to 100, it won't increase or go back to normal after a certain amount of time.
Or maybe I am wrong.. because if I push the cord even a little towards the back of the phone the charging light goes off completely, and the rate hits 0. Whereas if I pull it towards the front of the phone, the rate stays constant (at max) but if I take my hand off it, the rate drops to about halfway or really low. It just seems like the little connectors inside the phone are really.. really flimsy and loose. It obviously got damaged somehow. Either by constant connecting and disconnecting or bending or just you name it.
So does anyone have any suggestions? I might try and clean the inside of it with nail polish remover or something in case they're just dirty but I doubt it will do much. It seems definitely like the plug just doesn't fit in and connect well enough any more and that's where the power is being lost. It's gotten a bit loose, but really nothing out of the ordinary.
I can confirm that putting it in such a position where there is absolutely no chance for the cord to move at all, allows the phone to receive a constant rate of the highest possible charge.
I guess I could try and make the fit a bit more snug myself but it would be only really temporary.
I think I just need to get it serviced again, but I am not sure that I could because it's got a custom rom, it's rooted and it's already been repaired for one of those 'sudden death' issues already...
How generous is Samsung with their warranties?
Either way this is a terrible blow for me, I need my phone to pay my bills and stay connected with my work and friends. If I can't have it plugged in and still be able to move it around and use it. Then it's basically useless.
At least for now it seems to be charging okay just sitting completely still on the table.
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I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
spike305 said:
I am having the same issue as you, I have been managing to get it charged using my ipad charger which is stronger but it sometimes still doesn't charge with that. Last night I put it on charge and it turned off due to dead battery in the middle of the night. Did you manage to fix this?
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Since no one replied with a solution I will let you know my fix. I sent it to Samsung for repair under warranty and they have fixed the issue. It is due back tomorrow. Just so anyone else having this issue knows its covered under warranty.
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
S3 charging problem
5h1n1gam1 said:
I've got the same issue. At first i thought it was the custom ROM acting up. But even after unrooting it and going back to the stock firmware its still the same. The only way i can charge my phone is by switching it off nd plugging it in. Cuz no matter what i try, if the phone is switched on,the battery still drains. Couple of my friends had the same issue too.They ended up buying new phones. Guess this is a standard fault with all Samsung phones. If anyone's got a fix,do pass it on.
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I´m having the same problem. I flashed my S3 i9300 to a cianogenmod 11 ROM. It's a relief to know it's not the ROM. The technical service prom the phone companies here really suck, so i'm taking my S3 to a third party cellphone technician and tell you if he solved my problem.
try this.
dear poster I have a solution that may work for you ,first thing take the battery out of the phone and leaving the battery out plug the charger in .leave it that way for about an hour .then unplug phone pop battery in turn the phone on .the replug the charger while the phone is still on and see if it charges better .
I tried to do a search but didn't come up with anything entirely on point. My issue is when I plug my Z2 into a pc it goes crazy. A whole lot of lag, and any program I use constantly crashes/refreshes and the screen becomes very unresponsive (i.e. if im typing a text, the keyboard drops down and back up every 2s, or a website will flicker and reload, games will load then crash and reload). Eventually the screen turns off and won't come on again until I remove the plug. It also won't charge off the dock charger. It pops up a msg saying battery is draining faster than it is charging. Here are the the things that lead up to this:
1. I was trying to charge it at work with a sony magnetic charging cable ( I hate opening the flap), and it wouldn't register the charger but the screen would come on when connected. It was previously working fine up to that point with the charger. So I was messing with it to see if the contact points weren't touching and the whole phone shut down. I couldn't get it to turn back on until I got home and used the wall charger, everything else just made the LED flash red but not respond to power + volume up or down (which worked after putting on the wall charger for 20m)
2. I got the OTA update for .402 this morning. So when the initial crash happened I was on .69, but I never tested it on the USB before the .402 update. I've tried a few different USB cords, including the one it comes with. Tested the dock charger on both .69 and .402, neither worked. The charging icon just flashes.
Going to try a repair in PCC.
Well I did a repair. First time around it got half way through updating and auto restoring apps, and it then started failing updates and installs. Rebooted and it boot looped. Redoing the repair, but I'm not hopeful on getting it working properly again
I know its under warranty, but since I got imported it from Taiwan are they going to give me a lot of grief to get it fixed/replaced?
EDIT: No dice, still can't use usb to pc or the magnetic charging dock. Really disappointed. No one has any ideas?
Contacted support via chat, they had me call and they said they don't have parts or the phone in the US to service me yet, and so my options are to call long distance to UK or Tiawan or wait an unspecified time for them to have the phone/parts in the US to service it. Not sure I want to call long distance, who knows how long i'd be on the phone and how big the bill would end up being >.< Pretty sure this will be my first and last import.
hanano17 said:
I tried to do a search but didn't come up with anything entirely on point. My issue is when I plug my Z2 into a pc it goes crazy. A whole lot of lag, and any program I use constantly crashes/refreshes and the screen becomes very unresponsive (i.e. if im typing a text, the keyboard drops down and back up every 2s, or a website will flicker and reload, games will load then crash and reload). Eventually the screen turns off and won't come on again until I remove the plug. It also won't charge off the dock charger. It pops up a msg saying battery is draining faster than it is charging. Here are the the things that lead up to this:
1. I was trying to charge it at work with a sony magnetic charging cable ( I hate opening the flap), and it wouldn't register the charger but the screen would come on when connected. It was previously working fine up to that point with the charger. So I was messing with it to see if the contact points weren't touching and the whole phone shut down. I couldn't get it to turn back on until I got home and used the wall charger, everything else just made the LED flash red but not respond to power + volume up or down (which worked after putting on the wall charger for 20m)
2. I got the OTA update for .402 this morning. So when the initial crash happened I was on .69, but I never tested it on the USB before the .402 update. I've tried a few different USB cords, including the one it comes with. Tested the dock charger on both .69 and .402, neither worked. The charging icon just flashes.
Going to try a repair in PCC.
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Are you using the original USB cable ?
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Are you using the original USB cable ?
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Yup, I've tried the one it came with and 3 others.
hanano17 said:
Yup, I've tried the one it came with and 3 others.
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oh.
I'd an older xperia that would get upset when I wouldn't use the original cable. It would cause random touch screen interactions.
If you've tried everything it probably time for a a warranty repair / swapout
Yeah, that's pretty much what the US sony rep told me. Its just going to be a hassle to contact someone outside of the US. I'm gonna try to email or e-chat before trying an expensive call :/