I've poked around the forum looking for solutions but found no situation the same as mine. I'm beginning to prepare to flash a new ROM onto my Eris, so I was doing to do a nandroid backup. I have a rooted 2.1 (non-OTA, it was one of the update versions people posted online before 2.1 officially came out)
So I boot up holding down Power and Volume Down. So far, so good. I get to the screen that has some phone info and then HBOOT, <SEND> FastBoot Mode, <VOL UP> Recovery
I hit Volume up, and phone vibrates, goes to the Androids on skateboards, and then to a picture of the phone with a red triangle and exclamation point inside it. It just stays like that until I pull my battery. Then I can turn it back on to regular mode without any problems. However, I'm not sure what's going on.. and this would be a problem if I wanted to change ROMs.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
raconteur001 said:
I've poked around the forum looking for solutions but found no situation the same as mine. I'm beginning to prepare to flash a new ROM onto my Eris, so I was doing to do a nandroid backup. I have a rooted 2.1 (non-OTA, it was one of the update versions people posted online before 2.1 officially came out)
So I boot up holding down Power and Volume Down. So far, so good. I get to the screen that has some phone info and then HBOOT, <SEND> FastBoot Mode, <VOL UP> Recovery
I hit Volume up, and phone vibrates, goes to the Androids on skateboards, and then to a picture of the phone with a red triangle and exclamation point inside it. It just stays like that until I pull my battery. Then I can turn it back on to regular mode without any problems. However, I'm not sure what's going on.. and this would be a problem if I wanted to change ROMs.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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It sounds like you installed the leaked 2.1 root ROM (very early, buggy version of 2.1) and never installed a custom recovery (your information above indicates that you currently have a stock recovery).
You could verify that this is the case by checking your phone's information against this thread: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/87118-reference-what-htc-rom-do-i-have.html (it is a little crazy / scary that someone has used the 2.1 base root ROM all of this time given all of the bugs that it had ).
I *think* that you could use jcase's 1-click app (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228) to push Amon_RA's custom recovery onto your phone.
There's other methods too, but you might want to explore the simplest first.
Amon_RA's recovery works. thanks
scary alien said:
I *think* that you could use jcase's 1-click app (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228) to push Amon_RA's custom recovery onto your phone.
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FWIW, that is correct. Even though the "Leak Root" HTC ROM is already rooted, it contains the same chmod 777 symlink business in its' boot scripts, so the jcase OneClick or the Dummies method can be used to install a custom recovery to the "Leak Root" HTC ROM. (Even though it is already a "rooted" ROM in a sense). The recovery could also just be flashed directly using fastboot, as the Leak Root ROM installs the 1.49.2000 S-OFF bootloader.
Sounds like the OP fixed his problem - somehow.
bftb0
bftb0 said:
FWIW, that is correct. Even though the "Leak Root" HTC ROM is already rooted, it contains the same chmod 777 symlink business in its' boot scripts, so the jcase OneClick or the Dummies method can be used to install a custom recovery to the "Leak Root" HTC ROM. (Even though it is already a "rooted" ROM in a sense). The recovery could also just be flashed directly using fastboot, as the Leak Root ROM installs the 1.49.2000 S-OFF bootloader.
Sounds like the OP fixed his problem - somehow.
bftb0
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Thank you for the confirmation, bftb0 as always...
Yes, it would be nice for the OP to disclose the resolution information for the sake of helping others.
Cheers and Happy New Year's Eve Eve!
I'm not sure what information you're asking for but..
HBOOT-1.49.0000 (PB0010000)
not only did Amon RA recovery work, regular recovery works now as well (unless that's amon RA recovery also, but it looks different). Thanks for your help
in recovery it says
Build: RA-eris-v1.6.2
raconteur001 said:
I'm not sure what information you're asking for but..
HBOOT-1.49.0000 (PB0010000)
not only did Amon RA recovery work, regular recovery works now as well (unless that's amon RA recovery also, but it looks different). Thanks for your help
in recovery it says
Build: RA-eris-v1.6.2
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I think we were looking for confirmation that you really did have the base leaked 2.1 root ROM--but it looks like, based on the HBOOT version (1.49.0000) that you actually had an un-rooted 2.1 leaked ROM.
Also, you must have run the 1-click app to gain Amon_RA's custom recovery, correct?
If you would have cross-checked the original ROM's Settings -> About Phone -> Software information's "Software version" and "Kernel version" against the information in http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/87118-reference-what-htc-rom-do-i-have.html it would have made diagnosing what was going on a little easier.
Thanks for responding!
Ah. I used z4root some time ago. So i'm definitely rooted because Superuser and Wireless Tether are on my phone. I have the v2 leak: 2.26.605.4
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Ah. I used z4root some time ago. So i'm definitely rooted because Superuser and Wireless Tether are on my phone. I have the v2 leak: 2.26.605.4
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Thanks, the v2 leak info does help .
I'm only familiar with Z4 root w/regard to how it rooted my Droid X...did it (Z4) install Amon_RA's custom recovery or did you get it by another means? (I ask this because your initial post indicated you had trouble booting into recovery and it appeared from what you described to be the stock recovery).
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Thanks, the v2 leak info does help .
I'm only familiar with Z4 root w/regard to how it rooted my Droid X...did it (Z4) install Amon_RA's custom recovery or did you get it by another means? (I ask this because your initial post indicated you had trouble booting into recovery and it appeared from what you described to be the stock recovery).
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I had to flash RA recovery using the ROM Manager app
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I had to flash RA recovery using the ROM Manager app
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Aha! Thank you very much! That's actually two very useful pieces of information (to me at least ):
1) Z4 can root an Eris without installing a custom recovery (this is the first confirmation I've heard of this)
2) ROM Manager is a good vehicle for flashing / installing a custom recovery (I don't have any direct experience with ROM Manager, so this is good to know).
Thank you again for sharing with all of us!
Cheers and have a safe and Happy New Year!
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Hi, my friend is running a rooted 2.1 from this site (I believe)
http://www.softsailor.com/how-to/20831-how-to-root-the-htc-droid-eris-and-install-android-2-1.html
he said that the ROM has gotten slow and he wants to flash the official (non-rooted) 2.1.
How should he go about doing this?
(he doesn't have a custom recovery)
hiddengopher is he rooted or does he have the leak? If he has any of the leaked versions on his phone there is no way to upgrade to the OTA at this time.
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hiddengopher is he rooted or does he have the leak? If he has any of the leaked versions on his phone there is no way to upgrade to the OTA at this time.
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he is rooted. But he doesnt have a custom recovery.
hiddengopher said:
he is rooted. But he doesnt have a custom recovery.
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If he never installed a recovery partition, and he really is rooted, that also implies that he has a horrible, horrible bug-filled (early 2.1 test release) ROM on his phone, and it is no wonder he wants to abandon it. That's because he never really finished the rooting process and put a decent ROM on his phone - even a "near-stock" rooted ROM.
But, if he wants to hang himself and give up root, here's the rope to work with. This one command:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-eris-v1.6.2.img
gets him the recovery installed, assuming he has the 1.49.xxxx S-OFF bootloader (which he should have if he is really rooted).
He will need
- To install device drivers on his PC so that it can speak "fastboot" to the phone across the USB cable
- fastboot (about midway down that page).
- Amon_RAs recovery image (see down the page near "Download")
(md5sum e3932991f097993602af3c7a4b61a4f8)
- After that, he can follow the process documented in this XDA thread.
Note that jcase pulled the link for the "unzipme.zip" file from his thread, but the same instructions are replicated over here in this AndroidForums thread. I think the file (unzipme.zip) is still available at the download link in that copied post.
There are other ways to do this, but this one is the most straightforward. After you are back on 1.5, the phone will automatically notify "your friend" of the OTA-2.1 availability.
bftb0
awesome. thanks. I'm not sure if he got ADB all set up or not because I haven't heard from him.
Thanks a ton!
I tried to flash a custom rom on my eris last night with unsuccessful results.
To begin, my phone had the newest 2.1 OTA update on it and is running HBOOT 1.47. I downloaded and ran the 1-click universal root app. I noticed that a few new apps showed up (Latitute), but the Superuser app did not. I re-ran it several times but it still wouldn't show up.
Getting ahead of myself, I decided that I probably *DID* root the phone and I flashed Kaosfroyo V29 through the recovery menu. As I rebooted, the phone hung at the loading screen. I then tried to flash the Cyanogen mod with the same results.
After looking around, it appeared that the HBOOT 1.47 was exploitable with the 1.5 PB00IMG.zip update. I loaded it to my sd card and booted the phone in quickboot. It recognized the image but did not give me the option to update.
So now I am left with a phone that won't boot and without a backup (I know, I know).
What are my options? Is it still rootable from the recovery menu? Should I take it back to verizon and see if they can reflash/replace it (Doubtful as I probably voided the warranty).
wolfpack10 said:
I tried to flash a custom rom on my eris last night with unsuccessful results.
To begin, my phone had the newest 2.1 OTA update on it and is running HBOOT 1.47. I downloaded and ran the 1-click universal root app. I noticed that a few new apps showed up (Latitute), but the Superuser app did not. I re-ran it several times but it still wouldn't show up.
Getting ahead of myself, I decided that I probably *DID* root the phone and I flashed Kaosfroyo V29 through the recovery menu. As I rebooted, the phone hung at the loading screen. I then tried to flash the Cyanogen mod with the same results.
After looking around, it appeared that the HBOOT 1.47 was exploitable with the 1.5 PB00IMG.zip update. I loaded it to my sd card and booted the phone in quickboot. It recognized the image but did not give me the option to update.
So now I am left with a phone that won't boot and without a backup (I know, I know).
What are my options? Is it still rootable from the recovery menu? Should I take it back to verizon and see if they can reflash/replace it (Doubtful as I probably voided the warranty).
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Try installing the engineering Bootloader. Instructions can be found in a sticky called Eris roll-up in the Eris developement section. Even if you can't flash a custom Rom after this you can still flash the official 2.1 ruu which will put your phone back to 100% stock and you can try again.
If your rooted and can still boot to fastboot your not bricked.
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If the bootloader still appears (power phone on with vol-down+end), your phone is not bricked.
If the recovery boot still appears (power phone on with vol-up+end), your phone is not bricked.
If you don't have a SD card reader on your PC, you can transfer a different ROM to your SD card by booting to recovery and using the USB-MS toggle.
Smart money says that all you failed to do when you installed the ROM was perform a wipe before you flashed the ROM.
Prove this to yourself by installing a conservative ROM such as PlainJane, and when you get it running, for Dog's sake, make an effing Nand backup.
bftb0
I know for a fact it isn't rooted though (It says S-UP on the Recovery Menu).
Can I actually install alternative bootloaders on an unrooted phone?
Also, I want to avoid flashing the official RUU because it updates the HBOOT to 1.49 which, to my knowledge, has not be exploited yet.
Do either of you know why the PB00img.zip didn't work? I read multiple places that it should work with my HBOOT version.
Also, why didn't the 1-click root work? I haven't done anything like this previously and I bought the phone new at version 1.5.
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I know for a fact it isn't rooted though (It says S-UP on the Recovery Menu).
Can I actually install alternative bootloaders on an unrooted phone?
Also, I want to avoid flashing the official RUU because it updates the HBOOT to 1.49 which, to my knowledge, has not be exploited yet.
Do either of you know why the PB00img.zip didn't work? I read multiple places that it should work with my HBOOT version.
Also, why didn't the 1-click root work? I haven't done anything like this previously and I bought the phone new at version 1.5.
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Do you still have ra recovery? If so simply boot to recovery, wipe data and cache and reflash the rom.
All the 1 click root does is flash the custom recovery, so it did work.
Fyi
The Eris can now be rooted no matter what Bootloader version you have so doing the ruu will not prevent you from rooting. I myself was a leaker and had no problem rooting with the 1.49 s-on Bootloader.
As stated by btfb0, ALWAYS wipe data and cache before flashing a new Rom. ALWAYS do or have a nand backup ready just in case.
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I know for a fact it isn't rooted though (It says S-UP on the Recovery Menu).
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If you see the text "S-OFF" at the top of the screen, that is the bootloader, not the recovery boot. The one-click rooting method does not touch the bootloader, so, after successfully using "one-click", you will still have the same bootloader (initially).
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Can I actually install alternative bootloaders on an unrooted phone?
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You can install the Root PB00IMG.ZIP file onto a 1.46.xxxx or 1.47.xxxx bootloader phone - but you don't need to, because your phone already has a custom recovery installed on it (Amon_RA). As I mentioned previously, you get to that recovery facility by one of two ways:
1) Power phone off. Press and hold Vol-Up and then End/Power; continue to hold both keys down until you see the three skating droids appear (Don't release the keys until you see that screen). A menu system should appear 10 seconds after that happens. It will say "Amon_RA" on the bottom of the screen.
2) Make sure there are no files named PB00IMG.ZIP in the root folder of the SD card; either that or eject the SD card. Power the phone off. Press and hold Vol-Down and then End/Power; continue to hold both keys down until you see the three skating droids appear (Don't release the keys until you see that screen). A menu will appear immediately. One of the items will indicate that if you press "Vol-Up", you will boot into recovery. Press Vol-Up, and wait 10 seconds. You should be at the Amon_RA menu. (At this point, you can re-insert the SD card if you previously ejected it).
If you can't get either of these things to work, report back with exactly what you observe - saying "it didn't work" might be correct, but it isn't very informative.
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Also, I want to avoid flashing the official RUU because it updates the HBOOT to 1.49 which, to my knowledge, has not be exploited yet.
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Not correct. Both the "one-click" and "Dummies" methods (see All Things Root forum over at AF) work for 1.47, 1.49.0000, and 1.49.2000 bootloaders.
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Do either of you know why the PB00img.zip didn't work? I read multiple places that it should work with my HBOOT version.
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The PB00IMG.ZIP files are not compatible with the Amon_RA "update"-style installs; they are signed using an entirely different method. Not compatible. That's why it didn't work when you tried it (using Amon_RA). They are installed by starting up the bootloader with the PB00IMG.ZIP file in the root folder of the SD card. I am recommending that until you understand things a little better, you avoid this method - it only works with certain combinations of bootloaders and PB00IMG.ZIP file versions.
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Also, why didn't the 1-click root work? I haven't done anything like this previously and I bought the phone new at version 1.5.
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It did work. You indicated in your first post that you used the Amon_RA recovery, which was installed by that method.
bftb0
Thanks for the detailed responses. I know I should have researched this stuff more before I started toying with it but I'll just have to pay the price.
I wiped and flashed KaosFroyo V29 from the recovery menu and it finally booted. Many thanks for that suggestion.
Hopefully this thread will be helpful for other people in the future.
In the mean time, I lost all my contacts so lesson learned.
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Thanks for the detailed responses. I know I should have researched this stuff more before I started toying with it but I'll just have to pay the price.
I wiped and flashed KaosFroyo V29 from the recovery menu and it finally booted. Many thanks for that suggestion.
Hopefully this thread will be helpful for other people in the future.
In the mean time, I lost all my contacts so lesson learned.
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Contacts should have been backed up through google. Although I have leaked and rooted some friends phone and their contacts never sync'd to their phones.
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wolfpack10 said:
Thanks for the detailed responses. I know I should have researched this stuff more before I started toying with it but I'll just have to pay the price.
I wiped and flashed KaosFroyo V29 from the recovery menu and it finally booted. Many thanks for that suggestion.
Hopefully this thread will be helpful for other people in the future.
In the mean time, I lost all my contacts so lesson learned.
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Glad you got it working.
If you were using Gmail instead of the HTC mail app for managing your contacts, all your contacts are still "in the cloud" (so long as you did not define them to be "phone only" when you added them).
If they were phone-only contacts, it would have been a simple matter to get your contacts back if you had made an initial Nandroid backup. I'm not saying that to add insult to injury, but rather (as you said) "Hopefully this thread will be helpful for other people in the future."
Backups are a really good thing.
BTW - You will find that Android Forums is a useful adjunct to this forum. The reason is that the ROM devs over here on XDA have their hands full trying to do both development work and interact with the users/testers reporting issues with their ROMs, so they don't spend much time in here (Q&A or General sub-forums). When they do announce a new hack, or patch, or rooting method, the descriptions are many times written tersely (for subject-matter experts, not newbs). There are a number of very helpful folks over on AF, and some good "sticky" posts that are quite a bit more detailed than what you will find here. I'm not ragging on XDA at all; just saying that by nature of the focus required for development work, the experts can't give much personal attention to individual users, even if they want to.
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A friend of mine had her Eris metroflashed to MetroPCS. Calls and SMS work, but she wants me to provision the rest of it to work like i did with my own Eris on metro. I tried it to find out the Eris one click root app is not on the market anymore however i had the APK, erisone.apk. I loaded it to her SD card and downloaded Astro File Manager and attempted to install, which it proceeded to tell me it couldnt be installed on that phone. All i need is RA-Eris recovery as i will be loading a custom ROM. Is there an easy way to change the recovery on it so i can do this? I was thinking i just needed to update to 2.1 OTA (can someone provide the link? the old link from google doesnt work anymore) then the Erisone.apk will work (this apk loads custom recovery as well as a root very easily). I need to load a custom ROM before i can begin with the provisioning, what do you guys think i should do?
Does this work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228?
Or see this list of options that scary alien provided http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10013596#post10013596.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Does this work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228?
Or see this list of options that scary alien provided http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10013596#post10013596.
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The top one is one i tried. The bottom link there mainly concerns rooting. Im trying to install a custom rom thats already rooted so i don't care much for rooting but i guess its necessary to install a new recovery image right? All i want to do is install ra-eris recovery so i can load a custom rom. The one click method you linked automatically installs a new recovery image and thats what im really after. I just don't think that one you linked is compatible with 1.5
Helgaiden said:
The top one is one i tried. The bottom link there mainly concerns rooting. Im trying to install a custom rom thats already rooted so i don't care much for rooting but i guess its necessary to install a new recovery image right? All i want to do is install ra-eris recovery so i can load a custom rom. The one click method you linked automatically installs a new recovery image and thats what im really after. I just don't think that one you linked is compatible with 1.5
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You have to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to install a custom ROM.
Editing...ignore what I had posted in this space before.
The second link (starts with "Failing that...") says it works with 1.5.
You have to be rooted to have a custom recovery. This i know...but can you have a custom recovery without being rooted? I dont care about getting this phone rooted, i just want a custom recovery on it.
Helgaiden said:
You have to be rooted to have a custom recovery. This i know...but can you have a custom recovery without being rooted? I dont care about getting this phone rooted, i just want a custom recovery on it.
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You HAVE to be rooted to change: recovery, kernel, hboot, ROM, and radio. The only exceptions are official updates, whether they be OTA or running a RUU update from Windows with the phone connected.
Root access effectively means being able to change things you're not normally allowed to change.
If you want a custom recovery on your phone, you're going to have to root it. To be technically fully rooted, you would probably have to change your hboot (referred to as S=OFF), too, but it doesn't sound like you need that part. This may not be the answer that you want, but it is what it is.
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You HAVE to be rooted to change: recovery, kernel, hboot, ROM, and radio. The only exceptions are official updates, whether they be OTA or running a RUU update from Windows with the phone connected.
Root access effectively means being able to change things you're not normally allowed to change.
If you want a custom recovery on your phone, you're going to have to root it. To be technically fully rooted, you would probably have to change your hboot (referred to as S=OFF), too, but it doesn't sound like you need that part. This may not be the answer that you want, but it is what it is.
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Okay, i will try one of those other root methods then. Do any of them install a custom recovery as part of the process like the universal one click root does?
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Okay, i will try one of those other root methods then. Do any of them install a custom recovery as part of the process like the universal one click root does?
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I'm sure they all probably do, but I'm sure they say definitively in their threads, too. Everyone who roots wants to install a custom recovery so that they can flash rooted ROMs. Most everyone, anyway. Only those who just want the stock ROM but rooted wouldn't care about the recovery, but those are a minority.
Alright cool. Im gonna do the last method from Scary Allen's post. Just a question though..
i hook up the phone to the PC then click install_root.bat. That should do what i want, however in what mode should the phone be in when i have it plugged in? Powered on like normal, in the stock hboot/recovery mode...??
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Alright cool. Im gonna do the last method from Scary Allen's post. Just a question though..
i hook up the phone to the PC then click install_root.bat. That should do what i want, however in what mode should the phone be in when i have it plugged in? Powered on like normal, in the stock hboot/recovery mode...??
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You should keep questions about various methods of doing things in the original thread. If it doesn't say in the thread about what mode it should be in, then you'll have to ask GrdLock. If it doesn't specify then maybe it doesn't matter what mode it's in. The only thing it specifies is:
MAKE SURE YOUR SDCARD IS NOT MOUNTED TO YOUR COMPUTER OR THIS WON'T WORK!!!!
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You should keep questions about various methods of doing things in the original thread. If it doesn't say in the thread about what mode it should be in, then you'll have to ask GrdLock. If it doesn't specify then maybe it doesn't matter what mode it's in. The only thing it specifies is:
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yeah i got that much out of it. Okay, thanks for your help.
The jcase "One Click" .apk does not work on 1.5, as you discovered.
Note that the root exploit method that One Click employs does work on 1.5 - but unfortunately the One Click app itself only runs on 2.1.
The Universal Eris Root for Dummies! method will work on both 1.5 and 2.1; it uses the same (wag3slav3) rooting exploit, but does not require the 2.1 OS to be running in order to work correctly. All it does to your phone is to install the Amon_RA custom recovery - exactly what you are looking for.
This method is the same one referenced by scary alien in his post mentioned above - the second URL in his post.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again: when you say "rooted", it means different things to different people. The most general definition is that you have "installed something on your phone which gives you privileges to alter some or all of the phone software which the device manufacturer did not intend".
So - you can have an engineering bootloader on a phone, but a completely stock OS... and that would be a "rooted" phone. Same deal for a set of root tools installed in the OS, but a S-ON bootloader and a stock recovery partition. Or a stock bootloader, a stock OS, but a custom recovery - again, that is also a "rooted" phone. In all three cases, you now have the means to alter whatever you want on the phone. That's all that "rooted" really means; it doesn't necessarily mean that the OS has been kanged up.
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ahh confirmation it doesnt work on 1.5, nice haha. Well thanks. Ill look into the Dummies root method but right now im leaning toward's GRDLOCK's method. At least i know i have good valid options though, thanks!
I just got my Atrix a few days ago - had 2.3/4.5.91 off the shelf, which I was thinking had an unlocked bootloader.
I've dug around many threads, but it seems that most of them deal with coming up to 2.3 from an older version and I'm just trying to get my bearings.
I initially used the method described here to get root access, which works (I can gain su access in terminal emulator).
I then tried to use both fastboot and moto-fastboot to install romracer's CWM described here.
Unfortunately for me, doing both the "erase recovery" and "flash recovery" lines as listed in the post gave me "FAILED" output.
I then tried the ROM Manager method explained in the NOOB thread (which is awesome, by the way) and when I went to install the ROM from SD, it rebooted, but gave me a "Failed to boot 2", "Entering RSD Mode" error.
I was able to reboot into normal operation and then had to leave for a while and while I was out I started wondering if my assumption that my phone's boot loader was already unlocked was wildly inaccurate.
I don't want to just keep trying things cause I'm terribly afraid of killing my phone, so I thought I'd stop and ask to see if somebody could help get me started.
Ultimate goal is to get Alien running on the thing.
Thanks.
pudding. /10
To elaborate more on the previous poster's message, no Atrix comes from the factory unlocked, and Motorola did NOT include a bootloader with the "fastboot oem unlock" command built in on seemingly any carrier's devices. It was a beta version of the HKTW Gingerbread build that had the bootloader, and that is what "pudding" is. There is a sticky thread in the development section that will explain how to unlock. It's pretty straightforward. There are also several tools that automate the process so you might try one of those.
Thanks - I saw the automated script and other methods that were mentioned by the NOOB thread but wasn't sure if those apply to me - obviously they do!
Thanks alot!
no not (out the box) but its super easy even a monkey could do it if it reads this forum with its atrix
unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
Great - so I was able to get the script to unlock my bootloader and all is good on that front.
I then went an installed romracer's CWM.
At this point, if I install ROM Manager, and reboot into recovery will it boot into romracer's CWM or should I have installed ROM Manager FIRST? Does it matter (it seems like recovery is a particular partition, so I'm guessing ROM Manager just reboots to whatever is there, but not sure).
Is ROM Manager the only way to boot into recovery (I'm pretty sure you can do it without ROM Manager, just can't track down how).
Thanks for the help with the bootloader - appreciate it, guys (and gals, if applicable).
cochranjd said:
Is ROM Manager the only way to boot into recovery (I'm pretty sure you can do it without ROM Manager, just can't track down how).
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I don't use ROM Manager so not sure about your other questions, but here's how to boot into recovery manually:
- Power the phone off
- Hold volume down and power
- Wait for 'fastboot' to appear
- Press volume down to cycle through the options until you get to 'android recovery'
- Press volume up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16365625
you can use rom mamager to install its base vesion;4.0.1.4 clock work mod version but qfter that look for the 3.2update for cwm then flash the update with the color you like i use cyan then your cwm should read 4.0.1.4-atrix3.2 i think it works the best (fyi) oh it looks like its updated again to 4.0.1.5atrix
unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
Dear People,
I am a noob. A really big noob but I really want to have all the cool things that you guys have on the HTC Legend with 16GB SD. In my opinion is the HTC Legend sometimes a bit slow.
I am running: Android 2.2 and everything is stock, I never changed a thing. I saw some cool stuff on Youtube and I read a lot of interesting information about 'Custom Roms'.
My question / problem:
I want a fast cool Legend Rom which one the GPS, WIFI and Camera all the otherthings are working with no problems. Which Custom Rom is the best ROM for me?
I hope to read answers. I am very sorry for my dumb question and my bad English.
Regards,
Eer
Dear Noobfromthelegends,
first of all, if you want to try out custom roms, you need to root your Legend.
The easiest and safest way to do so is to follow the HTC guide [1] (please note that your warranty will be affected even if it is an "official" process).
Steps to follow had been explained in many threads, please take time to read a couple of solved similar threads; it'll spare you some time.
As you must have seen, there are a lot of ROMs out there, though a lot of them shared common basis. I'm afraid I can't help you on the best and faster one, I have only tested stock ROM and CyanogenMod (CM) ones. CM 7.1 (the latest stable release AFAIK, based on Android 2.3.7) is great but my Legend is sometimes laggy (actually a bit too often compared to newer phones).
Some people are trying hard to port Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich, ICS) on our beloved Legend. One major feature of ICS is the hardware-acceleration, which means that not only the CPU is used to compute (effects and some stuff) but available DSPs too. These ROMs are currently in beta stages, but users seems to be really happy with them (major drawback is not fully working camera ATM and some minor bugs, but like I said it is beta software).
(I am of course thinking of zeubea and its CM9 adaptation [2])
PS: remember to make nandroid backups (that is, make a backup of the whole system in case you did something wrong) and keep them safe, at least one which is okay (ie. a working copy on your computer). You can go back in time with complete backups, quiet useful if you want to try some MODs.
1: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562595
edit: it seems that updating your hboot version (ie. following the HTC guide to root your phone by updating your hboot) may be problematic if you want S-OFF. Please look for it on the forum if you care about it.
Thank you very much for your reply.
If I want S-Off has that something to do with: 'Root your Legend'?
Thank you for your back-up tip. But how do I back up my Legend? Because I am afraid that I don't back-up correct.
Hope to hear from you or the other forum members soon.
PS: Tomorrow I am going to 'Root' my Legend and I let it you hear.
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Thank you very much for your reply.
If I want S-Off has that something to do with: 'Root your Legend'?
Thank you for your back-up tip. But how do I back up my Legend? Because I am afraid that I don't back-up correct.
Hope to hear from you or the other forum members soon.
PS: Tomorrow I am going to 'Root' my Legend and I let it you hear.
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- You're welcome, that's the purpose of this forum
- it seems that S-Off give you full access to your NAND flash.
I don't know a lot of things about it, only read some posts. So far, I didn't feel the need to do it, I can use custom ROMs, custom splash screens, etc.
I repeat, I don't know **** about this. Just that I didn't need it for the past two years with my Legend (rooted for more than 18 months).
I read that it has something to do with your hboot, and as I told you to follow the HTC guide to root your legend, yes it has something to do with it because it seems that you can't S-Off easily with a hboot version > 1.00.
- you can backup your device when you are in recovery
Please read guides about rooting your Legend, you will learn about the ClockWorkMod, the recovery, fastboot and last but not least ROM Manager.
If you are not comfortable with all these terms, you may end up not understanding at all what you are doing or done and being stuck with a (semi-)bricked phone is probably not what you want. Just don't rush for it.
If you want to update your hboot to root your Legend, have a look at BlaY0's post [1] too.
Feel free to read other member's questions and problems, they certainly have been solved. Reading others' mistakes could make you avoid them.
PS: if you want to thank me, press the "Thanks" button below my post
1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22613990&postcount=62
edit: didn't see that you used the button already
@bibzor great stuff!
My 2c, Rom to try? OK just thinking here, maybe as a beginner to custom roms start with blay0s froyo, it will be more familiar to you coming from stock froyo, but its also got all the bells n whistles that make rooting worth it ie. ext partition support for more app space, over/under clock and more I've forgotten about just now.
Go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866849
Or if that's too boring for you and want excitement just start with zeubeas ics , that'll get your juices flowing, just remember its still a w.i.p. so theres still a few bugs and not everything is working 100% yet, but is still good enough for me to use as a "daily".
The other option I like personally is ogo2's gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987251
Then there's the cyanogenmod & its variants like legendary legends fuse.
Their all good! :thumbup:
Its a good idea to try and read the whole thread of the custom rom you want to flash for hints tips and other stuff before flashing too.
Welcome to a new world of flashing
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
Thank you both very much for your reactions.
I Googled a lot of Nanobackup but I first want to root my systeem. I saw on the HTC DEV site the Unlock Bootloader but first I have to update the Rom / Ruu but there isnt a Dutch Carrier. I come from the Netherlands.
What do I have to do?
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Thank you both very much for your reactions.
I Googled a lot of Nanobackup but I first want to root my systeem. I saw on the HTC DEV site the Unlock Bootloader but first I have to update the Rom / Ruu but there isnt a Dutch Carrier. I come from the Netherlands.
What do I have to do?
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Read BlaY0's post about rooting, I posted the link earlier. You don't need to update your ROM to follow the HTC dev guide.
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Dear People,
My question / problem:
I want a fast cool Legend Rom which one the GPS, WIFI and Camera all the otherthings are working with no problems. Which Custom Rom is the best ROM for me?
Regards,
Eer
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For couple of days i tryed some ROMs :
Cyanogenmod 7.1 -faster and stable, the phone was running perfectly, except the weak WIFI connection (maybe the problem was in my router) .
ExtremeLegendFuse 2 (best choice for me)- the phone just was flying - much more faster than the Stock ROM , GPS and WIFI worked perfect.
Now i use Cuanogenmod 7.2 - and will stay with it for future, Like advantages I can notice - lower baterry consumation and a little bit more free available RAM, in comparison with, CM7.1 / ExtremeLegendFuse 2 , on CM7.2 i neved used GPS and have not impression about the GPS ( befor i tryed to drive with GPS and after that i hate it ), everything else works perfct, the ROM is much more faster than the stock 2.2 Froyo ,but this ROM feels a little bit slower in comparison with ExtremeLegendFuse 2 ;
If you want a "fast and cool ROM " I recommend ExtremeLegendFuse 2;
If you use your phone for work and your phone is always in your hands - use Cuanogenmod 7.2
bibzor said:
Read BlaY0's post about rooting, I posted the link earlier. You don't need to update your ROM to follow the HTC dev guide.
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Thank you Bibzor but ....sorry for so much questions.
Today I wipeout everything on my phone due:
- Turn phone off, volume down 1 x On / Off Button and then Clear Storage.
- Then I did a format of my 16GB Micro SD.
So everything is clean now and I really want to do a full back up of my original Dutch ROM. If I understand it right I have to do a NANDROID for a complete back up of my orignal Dutch ROM so I can always go back to the orignal software?
BlaYo post about rooting starts with:
'' 1. Do a nandroid (at least data partition). ''
But how do I do a NANDROID with a Legend that isn't rooted? Can I start with point 2 from BlaYo post about rooting?
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Thank you Bibzor but ....sorry for so much questions.
Today I wipeout everything on my phone due:
- Turn phone off, volume down 1 x On / Off Button and then Clear Storage.
- Then I did a format of my 16GB Micro SD.
So everything is clean now and I really want to do a full back up of my original Dutch ROM. If I understand it right I have to do a NANDROID for a complete back up of my orignal Dutch ROM so I can always go back to the orignal software?
BlaYo post about rooting starts with:
'' 1. Do a nandroid (at least data partition). ''
But how do I do a NANDROID with a Legend that isn't rooted? Can I start with point 2 from BlaYo post about rooting?
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Use titanium backup from Google play.
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
Here Am I again. Sorry for my questions I hope that I get one more reaction.
I have have successfully unlocked my bootloader with the HTC DEV method.
But I still don't have ROOT acces. I have installed ROM Manager to do a full back-up of my ROM but it says: 'You don't have ROOT acces'.
I tought that when I unlock the bootloader with the HTC DEV method that I have ROOT acces on my HTC Legend.
What am I doing wrong?
Please help!
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Here Am I again. Sorry for my questions I hope that I get one more reaction.
I have have successfully unlocked my bootloader with the HTC DEV method.
But I still don't have ROOT acces. I have installed ROM Manager to do a full back-up of my ROM but it says: 'You don't have ROOT acces'.
I tought that when I unlock the bootloader with the HTC DEV method that I have ROOT acces on my HTC Legend.
What am I doing wrong?
Please help!
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After unlocking boot loader, use HTC supertools (which can be downloaded in this forum or just Google it) and it should be rooted.
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
Download supertools from link below
do it with htc supertool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431398
it worked for me after i unlocked my legend via htc dev
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
YEAH BIG THANKS! YEEEEAAAAAH! HTCSupertools were very easy! Thank you soooooooooooo much! Really, really, really thanks!
But..I want to back up my original Dutch 2.2 ROM. When I touch in Rom Manager:
Back up ROM, my Legend restarts and I get a phone with a red triangle.
When I push: Volume UP and then the On/Off button I get:
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command.
I tried everything: Formatting SD card and much more.
Why is a backing up of my original ROM so difficult?
P.s. I also installed: Clockwork Recovery.
Similar Problem.
Hi Folks,
The above is similar to my problem.... I am an absolute total NOOB!! Rooted my legend thanks to these forums just yesterday and have SuperUser, ROM Manager & ROM Toolbox installed and can see the root and access files so most things seem to work..... BUT.....
Every time I try to update the ROM or partition the SD card I get the dreaded red triangle/exclamation mark and have to remove the battery to allow the phone to reboot into the dreaded Vodafone ROM.
My startup shows "UNLOCKED" S-on but according to other threads here that is not a problem as unlocked automatically means S-off.
Any ideas or threads to read would be much appreciated thank you as I want to try Gingerbread before I risk ICS
Thank you
Hi guys,
if you're experiencing the red triangle horror, don't be afraid it's quite common.
This triangle shows up when you try to reboot in recovery mod but the recovery image couldn't be loaded.
The easiest way is to use ROM Manager to update your recovery to the latest available and then press "reboot in recovery".
Otherwise, you can try to flash recovery image by hand.
Download the latest recovery image [1] and follow the method listed there which is :
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-legend.img
EDIT: of course these two commands are to be executed in a shell command when your Legend is connected to your computer and the image file is in the current directory, otherwise put its path.
1: from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290841
bibzor said:
Hi guys,
if you're experiencing the red triangle horror, don't be afraid it's quite common.
This triangle shows up when you try to reboot in recovery mod but the recovery image couldn't be loaded.
The easiest way is to use ROM Manager to update your recovery to the latest available and then press "reboot in recovery".
Otherwise, you can try to flash recovery image by hand.
Download the latest recovery image [1] and follow the method listed there which is :
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-legend.img
EDIT: of course these two commands are to be executed in a shell command when your Legend is connected to your computer and the image file is in the current directory, otherwise put its path.
1: from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290841
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I LOVE YOU! I did it and I did a flash image recovery by hand. Now I am going to back up my ROM!
Rexjarvis, if you don't know what to do with the command you have to do:
when the device is switched off, hold the volume down & power button in order for the phone to boot into the bootloader & connect the phone to the pc. You see now: ''Fastboot usb''.
Download the recovery_legend_5.0.2.8.img file and put it in the same folder on your pc as fastboot.exe & adb. then open the commandline on the pc, navigate to the folder that contains the fastboot.exe. You know: CMD and then C:\Android for example. Then you have to do the two commands from Bibzor:
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery_legend_5.0.2.8.img
NoobfromtheLegends said:
I LOVE YOU!
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Then you have to do the two commands from Bibzor:
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well ..
By the way, I just copied the commands from the thread I linked
NoobfromtheLegends said:
YEAH BIG THANKS! YEEEEAAAAAH! HTCSupertools were very easy! Thank you soooooooooooo much! Really, really, really thanks!
But..I want to back up my original Dutch 2.2 ROM. When I touch in Rom Manager:
Back up ROM, my Legend restarts and I get a phone with a red triangle.
When I push: Volume UP and then the On/Off button I get:
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command.
I tried everything: Formatting SD card and much more.
Why is a backing up of my original ROM so difficult?
P.s. I also installed: Clockwork Recovery.
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No problems mate, glad to help
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
I have been trying to flash with ROM Manager but have permanent verification errors. Now I will try via adb as above. THANK YOU - Wish me luck
No joy... All I get is the same error E:Can't open.......... etc followed by E:Singanture verification error....
Can I not force an S-Off?