This is Unofficial CyanogenMod 7 port from the Legend, here. This is an alpha release! Do not report any bugs here or on CyanogenMod bug track or forums! This is not a fully working rom, see what doesn't work below.
Not working:
Menu/Back/Genius Button
Keyboard
Working:
Everything else
Download available here.
Thank you very much for this, I'm sure the community will have fun being able to somewhat play with gingerbread till CM7 nightly builds are out next week hopefully. =]
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Thank you very much for this, I'm sure the community will have fun being able to somewhat play with gingerbread till CM7 nightly builds are out next week hopefully. =]
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Not really, I flashed it. Like the OP says, no back button, no menu, no genius, not even a keyboard. In addition, no auto brightness, and when you try to manually change it, the settings app force closes. As a result, screen is pretty dark for me. Also, for some reason it takes up 228 mb on /system, so I had to repartition. There are little or no cyanogenmod parts in the ROM, so frankly, I'd stick on froyo if I were you until the cm7 RC1 comes out. At least until nightlies start. Frankly, since this is alpha, it shouldn't have even been posted, it's hardly functional.
Well with the CM7 thread going on in the general forum, people were requesting arayray to upload it for testing purposes, so in large I agree with you MusicMan, but some folks are just too eager for the Gingerbread!
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Well with the CM7 thread going on in the general forum, people were requesting arayray to upload it for testing purposes, so in large I agree with you MusicMan, but some folks are just too eager for the Gingerbread!
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I agree with that somewhat, but it's hard to test something when you can't even exit an on screen keyboard since you don't have a back button. Or when you can't change an apps settings because you don't have a menu button. Not to mention you can barely see the screen. Nothing THIS alpha should be posted. If menu and back worked, and screen brightness, it MIGHT be acceptable for testing purposes. But something this early on in development shouldn't be posted.
If menu and back was working, I would use this as my daily driver
I'm going to test this to see how gingerbread is on the mytouch slide
thank you for sharing this......any idea why the framework fails to de-odex?
As I stated not a fully working rom if you can do a better job with what you got go ahead please do it, all this rom is, is basically to play with until me or someone from CM can get the vendors to build it. Take it or leave it
I had auto brightness working before but Im not going to mess with it anymore
going to give this a shot andsee how buggy it is! will report back soon
Gonna make a backup and then try this.
Just wanna take a look, haha.
If I haven't done anything with partitions, or have S-OFF, will I be okay to try?
Nothings changed, just backup and flash
I found a few things that might be a quick fix, could fix front buttons + keyboard. You can save me a couple minutes of downloading and running diff.
Did you use init.latte.rc from CM6, or did you edit init.legend.rc to fit the slide?
No I didnt try that... I have been messing with the keylayouts
Haha, this is fun.
Sure it doesn't have a lot of the buttons, but I'll just use the home button while I play around.
I'm loving the little extras like the orange glows when hitting a top or bottom border... or the little animation when locking the device...
I nearly exploded seeing that.
If anyone wants to work on fixing anything go for it, you have my blessing. Im going to try and compile a fully working rom from source
Why is xbin and lib so big on gingerbread, in froyo system folder is small. but now it's the size of a sense rom. But do you know if the gingerbread source includes ext4 file system like on nexus s?
Arayray is the man! He is the first to bring Gingerbread to us. I hope this rom will evolve, so at least front facing buttons would work.
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Arayray is the man! He is the first to bring Gingerbread to us. I hope this rom will evolve, so at least front facing buttons would work.
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I found a few things that might be a quick fix, could fix front buttons + keyboard. You can save me a couple minutes of downloading and running diff.
Did you use init.latte.rc from CM6, or did you edit init.legend.rc to fit the slide?
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Leave it to miguel for the quick fixes. Gotta love em.
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I have just done a blanket delete of 77 posts, so if your legitimate post was caught up in that, I apologise.
Now on to the more important stuff. Racism, and swearing will not be tolerated here. In my clean up of this thread I had to delete many posts with swearing in them, and a few racist ones. Let me make it clear. I will not hesitate to have you banned if you post racist remarks. Swearing will be dealt with by way of an infraction, and flaming / trolling will be dealt with by way of a warning, then infractions if you continue.
This is the one and only warning to all concerned in this thread. Infractions / bans are the next step if you keep this up.
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If you look at my signature, I'm still running Bionix Fusion 1.1 (JI6 build).
Vibrant development has taken off lately, given the recent leaks of different builds in such a short period of time (JK2,JK6,JL1). Ive pretty much flashed all the major ROM releases, including Gingerclone and Nero, and I find myself unsatisfied.
I always find myself reverting back to JI6 and I cant put my finger on why. Granted, I'm not as caught up in the goose chase of staying current as some others may be, but for the sake of keeping up with the forum/development and enjoying new mods/themes/features, you would think it would behoove me to upgrade to a current build. Yet I still cant bring myself to commit.
Now, IMHO these ROMs based off of leaks are very very good stuff, but still not as stable (by that i mean as smooth as silk) as previous builds, and they tend to be a bit buggy. I think this is a major factor for me.
It could also be that I currently have my phone setup EXACTLY the way i want it (theme/appearance, modifications), and I dont want to have to go and dig around for everything for the newer build. Yes, its laziness, but what can i say.
There are things out there that are available for newer builds that are not for older builds, but i still dont feel the trade-off is worth it.
Does anyone else feel this way, or am I now old-fashioned??? Like you just reach a point when youre reallly happy with your phones setup, combined with getting just a little exhausted with the constant changing? Dont misunderstand, this is not me wishing that development would stop. Hell no. Im talking about that feeling you get when you dont have the energy to upgrade on such a constant basis, even though you want to keep up with the crowd (the forum)
you need justification for your setup?
wasted space.
My 2 cents, the reason why there are so many new roms are because of the leaks. For the JK2,JK6,JL1 - These are just Modems not the actual roms.
You can upgrade your phone to the newer modems without having the need to do a complete install or mess up your themes. Just so that you know, these new modems are supposed to give you better reception & Improve GPS performance.
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you need justification for your setup?
wasted space.
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whats your problem? why are you always on my case??
GENERAL section, im bored at work and its something i was thinking about and id like to hear if anyone thinks the same way.
Hey, i have an idea....EVERY time i think about posting I will PM you, and I will ask you if you personally are interested in what im going to post, and if it meets your seasoned standards.
Piss off with your pitiful, embarassing internet ego. As mad as your post made me, as im typing this, all i can think about is how much better my life must be than yours, considering that i dont have to gutlessly cyber-bully people on forums to compensate for the alienation i experience in the real world. Flag me for flaming, i wont lose any sleep, pal.
Attend the "Town Meeting" tomorrow, you may learn something. I personally am not attending, and its because of members like you. Members who have been around for a while and break every forum rule, yet never get disciplined and probably never will. I dont care how many posts you have, or how much you contribute, no one should be immune to discipline. Yet, somehow, dicks like you are allowed to roam free with no consequences. Im simply trying to start a relevant discussion, and instead of easily passing over it, you come in and immediately start trying to derail/bellittle it. do you have ANYTHING better to do?
Guys, lets just relax and stay on point here. You can always ignore comments you do not like.
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Guys, lets just relax and stay on point here. You can always ignore comments you do not like.
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thanks for responding dude, but honestly i dont give a sh*t anymore, everyone preaches "respect other members" and that concept is absolutely non-exsistent....hes probably rubbing his hands together going "haha i ruined his thread immediately, and now hes flaming me so ill probably get him in trouble"...and the dude is alllways giving me crap....sad existence
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Thanks for responding anyway.....i didnt realize you could flash any modem with any build.
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Open ODIN and select Select Phone and point to the Modem file.
Whatever floats your boat, if JI6 works for you then stay with it. ROMs are like a work of art, you may like one artwork over another, its all individual preference. I was flashing ROMs frequently until I settled on Macnut R14, it will be my daily driver for a while....
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Open ODIN and select Select Phone and point to the Modem file.
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yah i know how to flash....just didnt know that it would function properly....good to know though, thanks
TopShelf10 said:
yah i knwo how to flash....just didnt know that it would function properly....good to know though, thanks
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You are welcome.
We are starting a new thread as we enter a new phase of development.
We are beyond confident @ this point that we are where we need to be. We are now working on new init.rc and init.mapphone_cdma.rc that will be able to boot a cm7 atrix nightly.
As of now we only have aceoyame working on these and wish to solicit ideas from those who may be more experienced or who have a keen eye for the obvious.
We will be test flashing this first run shortly. Lets keep this thread clean. We are expecting only comments relating to the new .rc's or pointing out obvious shortcomings of our method.
Expect a test flash to be posted here shortly so others can try along.
So without further ado... here are the initial versions of the inits as modified by aceoyame..
init.mapphone_cdma.rc http://pastebin.com/N3CFNrBX
init.rc http://pastebin.com/KdpL6eKC
Help and comments are welcome...
If you apprecieate our work please hit THANKS on the appropriate post to let us know you guys care and to keep the thread un-cluttered. So far with the other threads it seems we only have about 20 or so users who are looking forward to this.
There is an excellent thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372293 started by ashclepdia that can be used for speculation, thanks, etc...
Thanks again to the many users here for helping during the sbf flashing phase.. we may need your help again soon.
And last but not least thanks again to dragonzkiller for taking the time from his busy schedule to get us past the last hurtle.
So fu$king excited! Thanks guys!
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While reading init.mapphone_cdma.rc i noticed like 3 mount points referencing yaffs2. From what I understood, yaffs2 isn't supported by the X2. That was the only glaring thing I saw so far.
Keep up the great work
Edit: Everyone, Please lets keep on topic. If you have any questions or you want to say thanks please use this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372293
We need to keep this topic clean for the sake of development.
Thanks
can someone explain whats this for and what it does?
Does it improve something?
Makes my phone faster?
Last longer?
Took better photo and video?
Better sound quality?
Tnx
raclimja said:
can someone explain whats this for and what it does?
Does it improve something?
Makes my phone faster?
Last longer?
Took better photo and video?
Better sound quality?
Tnx
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Well in an EXTREMELY broad overview, all this work that these fine gentleman are doing will take the lid off the jar of the x2. And when they are finished we will finally be able to port over miui and cm7 and many other roms for the x2. I super excited for miui... love u ace
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Well in an EXTREMELY broad overview, all this work that these fine gentleman are doing will take the lid off the jar of the x2. And when they are finished we will finally be able to port over miui and cm7 and many other roms for the x2. I super excited for miui... love u ace
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STATUS UPDATE
Well after numerous tries with variations on those inits we still have no sucessfull boot. Gonna try again tomorrow with some new inits.
Gonna keep @ this till we get somewhere..
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Put the phone down and back away! Haha I'm extremely excited about this I'm desiring to see a cyan droid spinning on my boot screen I only wish I knew more so I could be of some help top make this happen like yesterday. Im very thankful to all that are making this happen this forum will explode once this comes out LIKE BOOM
To the ones who like to clutter the thread (over half of this thread isn't relevant) and you know who you are please just only hit the thanks button. Even the OP has a link for people who can't stay on topic. This is necessary
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This is me asking for all of the x2 devs to pitch in and help with CM now that we have 2nd init going. The thing holding us back atm is our init scripts, the one were using bombs out shortly before boot animation (before adb runs) any help would be awesome!
Do you have link to CM7 including 2nd init you are testing with?
I want to push it into my phone when I get a chance this weekend and see whether I can help.
Thanks.
Well its a new day.. and i begin my holliday break.. Gonna spend a good bit of it working on this. I have some new approaches I am going to try today. Hopfully we can get some good information from the upcoming tests.
Do you have link to CM7 including 2nd init you are testing with?
I want to push it into my phone when I get a chance this weekend and see whether I can help.
Thanks.
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We intend to release a testing package shortly, once it is logging some sort of usefull data for us. In its current conditions it is not very informative. Rather then spending time getting people up to speed on it.. i am gonna try to get it to a point that it is more useful and self explanatory.
Ideally someone with more experience booting on second init devices will come along and give us a nudge to speed things up
In the meantime i have re-written our hijack to work along side our current X2 bootstap so that will save us some sbf time.
Hang in there.. We are getting close. Thanks for everyones support.
Probably should've posted this earlier, but I have a fairly powerful system. I could compile for you guys.
(I'd need to know what to install, since I haven't compiled a ROM before)
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Well its a new day.. and i begin my holliday break.. Gonna spend a good bit of it working on this. I have some new approaches I am going to try today. Hopfully we can get some good information from the upcoming tests.
We intend to release a testing package shortly, once it is logging some sort of usefull data for us. In its current conditions it is not very informative. Rather then spending time getting people up to speed on it.. i am gonna try to get it to a point that it is more useful and self explanatory.
Ideally someone with more experience booting on second init devices will come along and give us a nudge to speed things up
In the meantime i have re-written our hijack to work along side our current X2 bootstap so that will save us some sbf time.
Hang in there.. We are getting close. Thanks for everyones support.
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So I take it the script I sent you over helped a lot? It's good to see that! If you're guys' init script works I can patch them into an actual CM7 build for the X2 (So that we can have a device config, and eventually nightlies for it).
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Probably should've posted this earlier, but I have a fairly powerful system. I could compile for you guys.
(I'd need to know what to install, since I haven't compiled a ROM before)
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Don't worry about trying to compile anything yet. For a few reasons:
They're only patching an ATRIX build, not compiling yet
We don't have a full device setup for the X2 (i'm working on that now)
My computer is more than powerful enough to start releasing office DX2-Dev-Team betas from the repo, so don't worry about compiling yet
I will be on irc @ #X2-AOSP all night for the specific discussion of this thread.
So after a late night in IRC we managed to past 1 of the 2 hurdles we were trying to solve. Thanks to all that helped.
We were able to get some logcat action going!!
One more hurdle to pass and we are going to be VERY CLOSE.
Thanks again for those that were up late night working on this..
Which hurdle?
Tapped from my tweaked out DX2
Which hurdle?
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We were able to get some logcat action going!!
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Duh moment lol,
Tapped from my tweaked out DX2
is this the lockboot loader you guys are trying to crack?
If so, would this allow people to install or port ics? or copy the fix for blue tint on camera on droid 3?
Tnx
I am looking for a custom HC or ICS ROM without Sense and a few other customizations. I posted a job in the Job Market but have't had anyone contact me yet. I used another ad as my template but have no idea what most of the qualifications that I listed even mean but I figured that they are relevant. (lol-I can follow directions to root and flash, but that's where it ends) I'm not sure what is possible in terms of my wish list, but we have to start somewhere. I just sourced 40 HTC Flyers and have my work cut out for me having these ready in the next couple of months.
The dev community for the flyer/view is small (but dedicated!) here. You might do better to either place a bounty on it, so others could help, or maybe contact the cyanogenmod team to see if a donation/support pledge would spark interest in a port of cm9.
I'd love to see cm9 on my view.
edit: I see there is a bounty thread here
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I am looking for a custom HC or ICS ROM without Sense and a few other customizations. I posted a job in the Job Market but have't had anyone contact me yet. I used another ad as my template but have no idea what most of the qualifications that I listed even mean but I figured that they are relevant. (lol-I can follow directions to root and flash, but that's where it ends) I'm not sure what is possible in terms of my wish list, but we have to start somewhere. I just sourced 40 HTC Flyers and have my work cut out for me having these ready in the next couple of months. I have the company checkbook at my disposal. Any takers?
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If you want a ROM without Sense, DeSensified HC is the best solution for know (still some Sense elements but it's pretty clean), Chaosz-X, I and many others are trying to get an AOSP ICS working, but it will take time to get it stable. So until that dream comes true I recommend DeSensified HC.
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The dev community for the flyer/view is small (but dedicated!) here. You might do better to either place a bounty on it, so others could help, or maybe contact the cyanogenmod team to see if a donation/support pledge would spark interest in a port of cm9.
I'd love to see cm9 on my view.
edit: I see there is a bounty thread here
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I've used CM ROMS before and yes, they are always good quality and stable. This "bounty" thing that you speak of...first I've heard of it. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tips!
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If you want a ROM without Sense, DeSensified HC is the best solution for know (still some Sense elements but it's pretty clean), Chaosz-X, I and many others are trying to get an AOSP ICS working, but it will take time to get it stable. So until that dream comes true I recommend DeSensified HC.
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That is what I running right now and considering that the developer says it's his first ROM, I am impressed. It works very nicely so far. I did have a wifi repeated disconnect issue but was told by another user that it's a HC thing and not the ROM. It was suggested that I assign a static. Did that and seeing how it goes. On another note...I wasn't aware that offering $ for a ROM could possibly get me into some heat here so I edited my post. Someone clued me on that and I am grateful. It would suck big time to get banned from here. This place is such an awesome resource. Feeling "bafoonish". Anyway, I have a little more info than I had an hour ago, so thank you both for putting in your 2 cents!
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That is what I running right now and considering that the developer says it's his first ROM, I am impressed. It works very nicely so far. I did have a wifi repeated disconnect issue but was told by another user that it's a HC thing and not the ROM. It was suggested that I assign a static. Did that and seeing how it goes. On another note...I wasn't aware that offering $ for a ROM could possibly get me into some heat here so I edited my post. Someone clued me on that and I am grateful. It would suck big time to get banned from here. This place is such an awesome resource. Feeling "bafoonish". Anyway, I have a little more info than I had an hour ago, so thank you both for putting in your 2 cents!
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We welcome you, the Flyer community is a small but supportive community, and you haven't to offer $ from ROM's but what you always can do is donate money to developers working on ROM's to keep motivating them to improve their ROM's or bringing AOSP ICS closer
I have lots of my old unreleased roms stored up and am curious if you guys would like them.
These are the 2.2.1 i9000 releases, with signal fixes and home key haptic feedback.
The ones I haven't done I can get done in about a half hour. In fact, to get back in the swing of things, I have been redeodexing, fixing signal reboot and adding haptic to them one at a time - very helpful as a learning experience for me as my "Chemo Brain" sucked tons of knowledge away and I have to relearn a lot of it.
Anyway, do you guys have any interest in these or any of my unreleased past roms? I don't want to start a new thread if there is no demand for it.
Let me know!
Absolutely!!
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Welcome back jellette. I hope your doing allot better. Sounds like you are. Its good to see you back in the game.
And if anyone its wondering, Jellette made some bad ass roms. If you haven't tried his work I highly recommend it.
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jellette said:
I have lots of my old unreleased roms stored up and am curious if you guys would like them.
These are the 2.2.1 i9000 releases, with signal fixes and home key haptic feedback.
The ones I haven't done I can get done in about a half hour. In fact, to get back in the swing of things, I have been redeodexing, fixing signal reboot and adding haptic to them one at a time - very helpful as a learning experience for me as my "Chemo Brain" sucked tons of knowledge away and I have to relearn a lot of it.
Anyway, do you guys have any interest in these or any of my unreleased past roms? I don't want to start a new thread if there is no demand for it.
Let me know!
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Are they all pretty much the same? 2.2.1 based, differently themed etc. I honestly don't know how much you can change in like 8 ROMS on the same firmware.
If they are, I would just say Make one ROM thats the most stable; and then put the others as themes possibly for that one ROM?
I think you should also move along to ICS as the other devs have done, possibly join one of the devs and work with them rather than creating the same ROM, like there are right now about 8 AOKP Roms, which run the same, have a different kernel.
I'm interested in stock style 2.2 roms. Now that megauploads is gone most of the links in here are dead and we're stuck with ICS roms aren't 100% working or 2.2 roms that are so tweaked they're unreliable at best.
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I'm interested in stock style 2.2 roms. Now that megauploads is gone most of the links in here are dead and we're stuck with ICS roms aren't 100% working or 2.2 roms that are so tweaked they're unreliable at best.
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I suggest you try ICS Euphoria/Passion and ICZen those are the best in my book. no bugs at all.
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I suggest you try ICS Euphoria/Passion and ICZen those are the best in my book. no bugs at all.
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I did and had either problems with bluetooth, gps, mute/unmute, mic problems (which killed my bt headset), or all of them at the same time. They were all pretty bad. I need a phone that 100% works and ICS hasn't offered that yet. When it does I might switch but right now I'm content on near stock 2.2. All out speed isn't worth reliably IMO.
Jellete, i'm interested. I still have your BOJS5 rom on my sdcard. I'm sure people will love your new rom. Thanks
Chemo brain? Where have you been jellette. I thought you just moved on to other devices like our other good old devs. Were you not well?
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Chemo brain? Where have you been jellette. I thought you just moved on to other devices like our other good old devs. Were you not well?
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Yep, I HAD cancer - radiation and chemotherapy seem to have taken care of it though!
jellette said:
Yep, I HAD cancer - radiation and chemotherapy seem to have taken care of it though!
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Cancer effing sucks. But at least you get to talk about it in the PAST tense! That's awesome!
My wife is a survivor - we got into Relay for Life. I'll be thinking of you this June when we relay!
Oh - and my wife still has 'chemo brain' - and her last infusion was in 2002.
Just a few questions I have for you guys over the last couple months I've seen alot of Miui threads openend and ICS opened?
Are you really considered a developer if you just switch a few files from a rom that a actual developer build from source and made it boot on our phone?
Reason I ask because I've talked to a few developers and they tell me that it sucks how porting a miui, ICS rom has become so easy when it took them hours to build from source?
Just want get your guys insight
Not taking shots at no one so don't start crying about it and tell me it took you hours when there are threads everywhere on how to port these.
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None of my work counts as development so copypasta porting doesn't count. If it does, then what I did with the deblur/debloat script should count as a universal ROM for moto android devices.
I've heard people complain about copy and paste devs for a long time. Had alot of drama over it when I had the epic. Bottom line is it still takes know how. You have to know what and where to copy. And it still takes a lot of time. And some of the best roms I've used were from so called copy and paste devs. As long as they give credit to where it came from. Most devs learn from looking at what someone else has done anyway. Bottom line the more roms and devs the better. I appreciate your work here, but I see nothing good coming from a thread like this. No affense.My 2 cents.
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now I'm in no way crying but,.....what's the deal bud.....we do alot more than copy paste my friend every rom I do gets smali edits, I have to decompile/recompile several jars in different builds **** in gummy I have to edit the entire framework.jar just to get market working.....is it built from source, no, do I work hard on it without a doubt yes, i can't understand why you needed to open a thread to try to debunk my work..... reason I say my work .... I worked on miui, bill does it now, and does a pretty damn good job of it too..and you think its only copy paste getting miui working.....lol....that one is a beast of its own...takes several several changes to get our to just freaking boot.....I'm working on 4 ics based on the photon and 4 for the atrix.......and for both phones requires several edits ..... i mean seriously all we're doing is allowing more choices more options more roms..... I think you have a very wrong idea of what actually is done on these roms.....**** if it were only as easy as copy paste ....don't ya think we'd have had more of these roms sooner and made by different people, only reason miui got here is yepitsme gave up I picked up slack and took of with it then handed her off to bill.....so again I say whats the deal bud....should be happy our aging phone is seeing so much activity....now I do apologize if I have went out of line here but I couldn't help but feel a, little attacked here directly....and by two of the guys I freaking looked up to on here....all I can say is wow I guess I should just close my threads then since porting doesn't count..... and to say don't cry and tell you it took hours cause there are guides............who made the thread in the first place and the purpose of it is?? I'm in no way crying but not going to be called out like this and not respond, which your a very smart guy so I know that you knew exactly what would happen in opening a thread like this....sometimes it does take hours copy/paste you have no clue.....every new cm9 joker puts out we have to flash each lib one at a time to se e which one isn't playing nice,.but thats just copy pasting isn't it, edits to the build prop, updater script.....smali edits to numerous files, jars,apks....but thats just copy paste too I guess.....or maybe its how at times we flash each rom several times and troubleshoot each issue everyone has not just release and say nothing....but thats just pasting too....you really have no clue maybe should read a couple of those guides you are reffering to cause even in them they tell you this isn't all you have to do...**** some of them even say I can only point to what might work not that this guide works for every phone no matter what...
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I see points for either side of the coin but a discussion like this will not be good for the Photon forum. To have developers/contributors against themselves is exactly what has happened in other threads and it never ends up a positive for anyone. I feel there is a place for all kinds of work as long as no work is being stolen and credit is being given. It allows for more options and benefits us all. We could all debate this further but I think we know where this would be heading.
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Just a few questions I have for you guys over the last couple months I've seen alot of Miui threads openend and ICS opened?
Are you really considered a developer if you just switch a few files from a rom that a actual developer build from source and made it boot on our phone?
Reason I ask because I've talked to a few developers and they tell me that it sucks how porting a miui, ICS rom has become so easy when it took them hours to build from source?
Just want get your guys insight
Not taking shots at no one so don't start crying about it and tell me it took you hours when there are threads everywhere on how to port these.
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Are you really considered a developer is you forget sh and root in a rom?
remember, we arent taking shots.. just wanna know how it took hours and yet forget stuff like that. dont be willing to start a fire if you cant handle the heat.
bottom line is this as far as im concerned, i could give two craps less about miui, or any of the other cm clones. however i think (most of them) they bring something to the table. and give people choices, if the users really thought it was crap they wouldnt use it..
after working with so many prepaid devices and telling the users that if they want stuff done for roms/kernels then they need to find a dev to get the phone, or one of them needs to step up. so to see more and more people on the photon jump up to help is really nice and reminds me of why i loved this community so much (yes even you willysp ;P ).
if someone isnt making the roms then youd have threads of people complaining cuz they wanted them, so more people are happy in the end because they are made as well as offering choices.
i could go into more but as it is this thread is gunna turn enough into a blood bath so ill try to at least keep my part in it as civil as possible
So I can learn?.... Ok. I really do wanna learn but I think they def need to give credit to the originals. But if they don't like something of one ROM and decide they wanna change it and then let others take it for a spin, whose to stop em?
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RockoDev said:
Just a few questions I have for you guys over the last couple months I've seen alot of Miui threads openend and ICS opened?
Are you really considered a developer if you just switch a few files from a rom that a actual developer build from source and made it boot on our phone?
Reason I ask because I've talked to a few developers and they tell me that it sucks how porting a miui, ICS rom has become so easy when it took them hours to build from source?
Just want get your guys insight
Not taking shots at no one so don't start crying about it and tell me it took you hours when there are threads everywhere on how to port these.
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Let me set the record straight:
FIRST AND FOREMOST: I DO NOT CLAIM TO BE A DEVELOPER.
SECOND: MIUI is NOT just cut and paste. If I had SOURCE for it, I would BUILD it SOURCE. As MIUI has NOT released it, I CANNOT do that. I DO PORT it, and I label it as such. But, to act like all I do is cut and paste, you're way off base.
1) I have to edit the framework files just to get it to fully boot with service/data, and the options that the users of my build have grown accustomed to. I have to test libs each time that Joker releases a new CM9, as not all are compatible.
2) I have to test libs with each MIUI release, as they often build with ARM7b, which is NOT compatible with our beloved Tegra 2 processor.
3) I then make 2 versions (Aroma based and CWM flash).
4) I credit everyone whose work I used to do what I do. That being said, if I port something, you're darn right I should get credit for the work I do.
5) The reson SO MANY (2) MIUI threads have popped up is that Spleef initially started the ports. At a point in late March, I took over doing the ports and he took to other roms. I have been asked recently by MIUI.us to start a separate thread so that I can keep the OP up to date and standardize it to the format that they wanted.
Now, on to my other CONTRIBUTIONS:
1) Fixes thread-yes, may be slightly out of date, but it's helped a LOT of people
2) How-tos thread-sure...I need to add more to it and plan to when I get the time.
3) Anyone here like Kitchen Sink? I ask as Joker and I have spent HOURS working together on that rom getting it to where it is. Not to mention if you use version 2.11, then you're using something I assembled, as it was done while Joker was on away on Vacation.
4) I am usually found on ALL the Photon/Atrix threads helping people with their issues ranging from flashing issues to data issues, etc.
5) Check out how many ROMs I've helped on.
Another thing, I don't have the title Developer...and didn't apply for it. I am a Contributor. I CAREFULLY examined the criteria for each and decided that I would apply for being a Contributor as I DON'T at this time do SOURCE work.
Funny how someone who isn't doing source either would put "dev" in their name when they don't seem to have a single source-built item to their credit, then have a problem with what I do.
Funny that I count there are 3 Rocko-rom variants 2.3.5 posted. See me starting a thread to ask why you have so many Blur based roms?
I would personally LOVE to have the opportunity to talk to ANY of the DEVS you cite as having an issue with the fact that I port MIUI.
moparfreak426 said:
So I can learn?.... Ok. I really do wanna learn but I think they def need to give credit to the originals. But if they don't like something of one ROM and decide they wanna change it and then let others take it for a spin, whose to stop em?
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your absolutely right anyone can do this it just takes some patience and a little knowledge....we give credit, thanks, and links to every rom we port over..... I'm guilty of forgetting things in roms. I know I am, sometimes things get forgotten or ill use the wrong damn file...lol.....I'm not taking shots or trying to start no crap but I woke up this morning to this thread and couldn't believe what I was reading.... I mean hell rocko rom was jokers originally and look at it now, we all start some where, true I don't do source right now.......but thats not to say I never will I've had joker trying to teach me for a while now but we live our lives so time is short
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shabbypenguin said:
Are you really considered a developer is you forget sh and root in a rom?
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Not sure who did that...we had an issue with SU in MIUI on one build due to incompatibility with MIUI and the 0.6.whatever SU xbin
Th3Bill; said:
Funny how someone who isn't doing source either would put "dev" in their name when they don't seem to have a single source-built item to their credit, then have a problem with what I do.
Funny that I count there are 3 Rocko-rom variants 2.3.5 posted. See me starting a thread to ask why you have so many Blur based roms?
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I'm not trying to pick any sides in this because I like both of your work, but damn he got you.
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shabbypenguin said:
......reminds me of why i loved this community so much (yes even you willysp ;P )........
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Why in the world are you taking a shot at me in this thread?
I think, this thread is something, that shouldn't be here. It's all about choices. I don't like the ROMs of all devs here, so I made my own. But I am still glad they are here. And I appreciate their work.
Think I saw in the new evo thread that Rocko is heading there. Maybe triing to stir the pot before he leaves? Personaly I would like to see this thread closed.
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bricky23 said:
Think I saw in the new evo thread that Rocko is heading there. Maybe triing to stir the pot before he leaves? Personaly I would like to see this thread closed.
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AMEN!
A developer is anyone who developed something for Android. Themes, roms, hacks, root methods, modifications, even scripts. Just because someone doesn't build from source doesn't mean they don't bring something to the community.
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willysp said:
Why in the world are you taking a shot at me in this thread?
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lol was just poking fun at ya man hence the
jokersax11 said:
A developer is anyone who developed something for Android. Themes, roms, hacks, root methods, modifications, even scripts. Just because someone doesn't build from source doesn't mean they don't bring something to the community.
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Can I get an AMEN
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shabbypenguin said:
Are you really considered a developer is you forget sh and root in a rom?
remember, we arent taking shots.. just wanna know how it took hours and yet forget stuff like that. dont be willing to start a fire if you cant handle the heat.
bottom line is this as far as im concerned, i could give two craps less about miui, or any of the other cm clones. however i think (most of them) they bring something to the table. and give people choices, if the users really thought it was crap they wouldnt use it..
after working with so many prepaid devices and telling the users that if they want stuff done for roms/kernels then they need to find a dev to get the phone, or one of them needs to step up. so to see more and more people on the photon jump up to help is really nice and reminds me of why i loved this community so much (yes even you willysp ;P ).
if someone isnt making the roms then youd have threads of people complaining cuz they wanted them, so more people are happy in the end because they are made as well as offering choices.
i could go into more but as it is this thread is gunna turn enough into a blood bath so ill try to at least keep my part in it as civil as possible
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No!!!!! I am not have never claimed to be.....
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To those that may be offended by my position let me clarify. I was on the Evo for the first price drop. A ton of ROMs suddenly appeared that were no more than a font or color change by folks claiming to be devs. To me, simple edits like that are not development or ROMs. I've seen the same with themes, swap a font and call yourself a dev. There are script releases by "devs" that all that was done was change the device name or partition location. To me none of that stuff counts as honest development.
Another example is ROMs from the JoyOS port guides. Copypasta and a couple build.prop edits and look you have JoyOS. That in itself is not development to me. Now if you have to go through and do framework/smali edits to get it to work, that's a whole different story. That requires know how, skill and time.
spleef, Th3Bill and others, I'm sorry if you took my previous post personally. I consider you guys a dev and your work is well beyond anything I have released. Digging around in the code to get things to work is not easy. There are many with contributor titles really should read developer. (again, in thinking about it I really am not one of them). I was also speaking about android as a whole and not specifically the photon forum.
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A developer is anyone who developed something for Android. Themes, roms, hacks, root methods, modifications, even scripts. Just because someone doesn't build from source doesn't mean they don't bring something to the community.
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I can't speak for others but I agree with you on this only to a point. It goes back to the first paragraph in this post. To me, a font change or other very minor changes isn't development. I'm speaking in general however. When it comes to the Photon specifically, there's a lot of actual deving being done and folks that are very deserving of dev status (again, I am not placing myself in that category).
To All,
A lot of crap has happened to me personally over the past couple months. My attitude is lousy at best and I think it time I walk away for awhile. If I have offended I am sorry. Feel free to grab any of my work and run with it. I also have the following unfinished projects up for grabs;
2.3.5 sudo-Blur ROM with root ODEXed and De-ODEXed built straight from the 2.3.5 leak. (USB is intermittent but not sure if its the phone or the ROM)
webtop+ 2.3.5 leak (missing apps)
Copypasta JoyOS port (never connects to service)