Nero, is great, but I just, lost 4% of battery being on xda for like 15 minutes.
Why is this happening, with gingerclone I lost like 1% every 30 minutes with, light use...
How can I get the battery of gingerclone but the look and feel of nero?
I highly recommend getting rid off or freezing Device Management and MediaHub if you are not using it.
O k.
I already froze tons including media hub, but I thought we'd need DM, guess not froze that too.
Any more suggestions
I have NeroV3 as well, and I was getting stellar battery life and then one day, it started dropping like a rock. I have read on here many times about charging through a wall charger instead of USB which I didn't think would make a difference. Without any changes to my phone as far as freezing apps or using ATK, I let the phone drain until shut off, recharged on a wall charger (the one the phone came with) and then restarted and wiped battery stats and dalvik cache as well as the other internal cache stored. I am now on day two with about 20% remaining with light use (mainly internet and 3-5 phone calls). I still love Nerov3 and wouldn't change just yet. Try the battery reconditioning and you might be surprised what happens......
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I have NeroV3 as well, and I was getting stellar battery life and then one day, it started dropping like a rock. I have read on here many times about charging through a wall charger instead of USB which I didn't think would make a difference. Without any changes to my phone as far as freezing apps or using ATK, I let the phone drain until shut off, recharged on a wall charger (the one the phone came with) and then restarted and wiped battery stats and dalvik cache as well as the other internal cache stored. I am now on day two with about 20% remaining with light use (mainly internet and 3-5 phone calls). I still love Nerov3 and wouldn't change just yet. Try the battery reconditioning and you might be surprised what happens......
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K I'll try that later today
How can I drain battery fast?
Radio streaming
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Nero's battery does not suck, Blame your device and whatever state it was in prior to flashing Nero. Like gtiryan said, RECONDITION YOUR BATTERY. (caps for emphasis) IMHO I would do as follows: Download superpower, disable transition animations,lower screen brightness, lower your haptic feedback, use widgets sparingly, use only a few homescreens, dont use a task killer...I could go on, BUT, all of these things will also have an impact of saving you battery life. Most importantly is recondition the battery though. Drain the battery until it shuts off, Do not turn it back on. Just charge it with the phone off. When it is fully charged again, Boot directly into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Simple as that! Good luck.
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Nero's battery does not suck, Blame your device and whatever state it was in prior to flashing Nero. Like gtiryan said, RECONDITION YOUR BATTERY. (caps for emphasis) IMHO I would do as follows: Download superpower, disable transition animations,lower screen brightness, lower your haptic feedback, use widgets sparingly, use only a few homescreens, dont use a task killer...I could go on, BUT, all of these things will also have an impact of saving you battery life. Most importantly is recondition the battery though. Drain the battery until it shuts off, Do not turn it back on. Just charge it with the phone off. When it is fully charged again, Boot directly into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Simple as that! Good luck.
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thanks for the suggestions, but i wouldn't try that.
I have a smartphone, i dont want to make it look like a bullcrap phone.
transitions, im keeping my brightness is always at low since im home alot haptic feedback is always off, widgets, power control and battery life, 7 homescreens, i use the stock task killer if i need to.
i'm draining my battery right now to recondition it.
Saying that transitions make your smart phone smart is like saying when I put stickers on my car it adds more horsepower.
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Saying that transitions make your smart phone smart is like saying when I put stickers on my car it adds more horsepower.
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if a high-end-smartphone look dull, meaning no transitions, makes no use at all of it being a smartphone, a smartphone, looks, feels, and is good.
I never said a transition makes it smart, i said a transition makes it look good.
Nero's battery is noticeably worse than Eclair ROMs (especially those with undervolting kernels).
Gallery3D is a battery-vampire. There should be a fixed version of it in the Slightly Better Gingerbread thread (in Themes & Apps).
synaesthetic said:
Nero's battery is noticeably worse than Eclair ROMs (especially those with undervolting kernels).
Gallery3D is a battery-vampire. There should be a fixed version of it in the Slightly Better Gingerbread thread (in Themes & Apps).
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i just reconditioned and so far its been 40 minutes and not lost a single percent with heavy text and about 3 phone calls.
the Gallery3D has already been replaced with the other one that is said to stitch the memory leak from the old one.
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I highly recommend getting rid off or freezing Device Management and MediaHub if you are not using it.
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What does DM actually do?
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What does DM actually do?
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it checks the Tmobile servers to see if theres a update OTA, but if there IS a OTA XDA would have like 50 downloads by the time it gets finished installing, so i just froze that.
What's the simplest way to get rid of Media Hub and DM?
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What's the simplest way to get rid of Media Hub and DM?
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Do not get "rid" of them.
They are connected to other apps so freezing is your best bet. Specially those 2
Nero3 has had the BEST battery life for me so far.
Extras Ive done:
Downloaded Superpower and clicked 'Root Features > 2G/3G Enable'
Titanium Backup I froze:
All Share
com.logmein.rescue
com.logmein.rescuesecurity
Daily Briefing
Device Management
DRM Protected Content
DRM Content Launcher
Media Hub
News and Weather
Visual Voicemail
wssyncmlnps
Been running that way for a few weeks now with no issues.
For the install I did a ODIN to JFD. Personally when I Odin to JFD I always click repartition (only to JFD). Then installed Nero3 and started a battery recondition.
I found a nice clean new install really does make a world of difference.
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Do not get "rid" of them.
They are connected to other apps so freezing is your best bet. Specially those 2
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Do you have another method on freezing apps instead of paying for titanium backup?
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Do you have another method on freezing apps instead of paying for titanium backup?
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There are a few apps IMO you just need to buy. Titanium, and Root Explorer come to mind.
Oh and ADW EX rocks !!!
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I cant think of any other program that can 'freeze' and app.
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There are a few apps IMO you just need to buy. Titanium, and Root Explorer come to mind.
Oh and ADW EX rocks !!!
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Ah well i have root explorer, so how would i freeze it there?
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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I would also like to know this??
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I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
Russ
HG! said:
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
Droid Incredible
Master™ said:
I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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Ha that's funny.
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I have been looking through forum after forum about the battery life on this rom, it has been dropping 1 percent every 2 minutes or so and is about to be dead. Does this sound like a battery problem or should i just recondition it. I just wanna know whether to buy a new battery, get a new rom or what?
Ive been having the same problem, ive already tryed the reconditioning process but i still lose battery very fast. But the only time i dont lose alot is when its on standby.
my battery is outstanding on v3. Id reset and and try again, or check your apps, something has to be up. :u
What do you mean reset? Like back to stock
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What do you mean reset? Like back to stock
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I think he means go into recovery and clean cache and dalvik cache. Maybe even do a factory reset (however that will clear out your applications). Just make sure you have good backups before doing a factory reset.
That never hurts to odin back to stock just to rule out the ghosts and goblins. to me, it sounds like an app issue. How many widgets are you using that need to refresh? How many programs are open and active when you first start your phone? Are you using a task killer? Are you actually using the phone actively, or is it on "standby"? Answer a few of these to give us a better picture of your usage.
My battery life has been stellar.
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My battery life has been stellar.
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thanks for the wonderful help and awesome insight..
Mine has been pretty good... I would recommend what swehes said.
I got pretty good standby time, but when I use the phone (such as calling, browsing web), battery drains super fast. I can have it last more than 4 days with light usage, but less than 10 hours with normal usage (no games, only texting, calling and browsing web).
Either do the process people are calling "recondition your battery" (charge fully, drain fully, charge fully, then immediately wipe your battery stats), or charge your battery fully once on an external stand-alone charger, then wipe your battery stats.
The battery profile in the stats file with the ROM just doesn't match your real battery's performance characteristics -- low charge point, high charge point, usage curves, etc. ... so it thinks it has juice when it doesn't, or it may shut down when you should still have juice left, etc.
My battery life has improved with every day. At first, when I cleared the battery stats in CWR, the phone lasted me around 36 hours. However, the day after it could not hold for more than 16 hours, but it has been increasing and now stays around 26 hours with my moderate to heavy use.
EDIT: Freezing Media Hub and the device management service in TB has definitely contributed to the prolonged battery life, I should probably remove it all together.
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Either do the process people are calling "recondition your battery" (charge fully, drain fully, charge fully, then immediately wipe your battery stats), or charge your battery fully once on an external stand-alone charger, then wipe your battery stats.
The battery profile in the stats file with the ROM just doesn't match your real battery's performance characteristics -- low charge point, high charge point, usage curves, etc. ... so it thinks it has juice when it doesn't, or it may shut down when you should still have juice left, etc.
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what do you mean by a extrenal stand-alone charger? Like the charger that came with it right? sorry noobie question
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My battery life has improved with every day. At first, when I cleared the battery stats in CWR, the phone lasted me around 36 hours. However, the day after it could not hold for more than 16 hours, but it has been increasing and now stays around 26 hours with my moderate to heavy use.
EDIT: Freezing Media Hub and the device management service in TB has definitely contributed to the prolonged battery life, I should probably remove it all together.
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Can you mind telling me how to freeze media hub and device management service?
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what do you mean by a extrenal stand-alone charger? Like the charger that came with it right? sorry noobie question
Can you mind telling me how to freeze media hub and device management service?
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If you use Titanium Backup (I highly recommend spending ~$5.00 for a full Pro version) you can freeze the apps via the Batch operation.
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If you use Titanium Backup (I highly recommend spending ~$5.00 for a full Pro version) you can freeze the apps via the Batch operation.
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Is this safe to freeze both media hub and device management?
Well i just conditioned my battery and that didnt help. So i'll try wiping the caches and then if that doesnt work then i will odin back to stock and fresh install it.
And i only have weather, the messaging widget that tells me how many messages i have and thats about it
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Ive also set my email never to refresh because i dont really use it that much anyway
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I have been looking through forum after forum about the battery life on this rom, it has been dropping 1 percent every 2 minutes or so and is about to be dead. Does this sound like a battery problem or should i just recondition it. I just wanna know whether to buy a new battery, get a new rom or what?
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Gotta be an app problem, I can leave WiFi on all night and only drop 10% or so.
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Well i just conditioned my battery and that didnt help. So i'll try wiping the caches and then if that doesnt work then i will odin back to stock and fresh install it.
And i only have weather, the messaging widget that tells me how many messages i have and thats about it
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reconditioning the battery is good to do but only gives a minor difference in how long it takes to drain. I already know it's an app problem. Open you're settings, go to applications, and select running services. What do you see?
Could it be device management?
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***NOTICE***
The ROM Manager version of CWM does NOT wipe battery stats properly, as with many other things. What you need is jt1134's version of CWM that is all happy and works and stuff.
You can find his happy CWM here. And here. And also here.
And here.
Big thanks to LegionTHEFecalExcretion for the heads up on that.
***END NOTICE***
NOTE: On current DL30 and EB01 ROMs, you will not see battery life like you did on DL09 with undervolted kernels. There are NO undervolted kernels as of yet, everything kernel wise with Froyo ROMs in very much stock. These steps will improve your battery life in comparison to when you flashed Froyo, but you are not going to see spectacular changes in battery life up to what you were getting with undervolted DL09, etc. It's just not possible until we get undervolted kernels and Froyo matures for our device, development wise.
Hi everyone, I've been seeing a lot of threads about bad battery life, whether switching to Kaoscinate, Vanilla, or DL30. Stop it! Just kidding. There is a simple process everyone should follow when switching between different enough ROMs, like AOSP, CM6 and TW Eclair and Froyo. This is how you retrain your battery.
1. Charge your battery to 100% (when it gets there, let it SIT there, your phone is NOT reporting correctly).
2. Reboot to Recovery and Advanced -> Wipe Battery Stats.
3. Reboot, and use your phone until it is VERY low (5-10%, you can let it die if you want).
4. Charge your phone back to 100%
5. (Optional) Power down, then power on phone. (Thanks goes to BrwnSuperman for this suggestion, give it a try!)
Your battery issues should be solved. This needs to be done every once in a while, especially when switching between different ROMs and OS versions.
User dalrym05 posted this alternate method for retraining the battery on page 4 as well, so I thought I would share it here in the OP. I'm posting this as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK method, as I have not tested it, and am not quite sure what the *228 steps for it actually accomplish and have to do with retraining the OS battery reporting, so I'm leaving it quoted to dalrym05 for the time being.
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Here were my steps to better battery.
1.*228 option 1
2.*228 option 2
3. Run battery completely dead to 0%
4. Plug in and boot immediately into cwm
5. Wipe battery stats and dalvik cache
6. Reboot and let charge fully before unplugging
7. Completely discharge again and fully charge again.
After this you should notice a very nice increase in battery as I did. My battery life is back up to par with eclair.
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NOTE: I did edit his post to make it a little more clear. I'm slightly anal retentive that way.
HybridByNature had an excellent suggestion on page 4. If people have good tips and tricks for maintaining good battery life, and they are easily reproducible, then I will gladly add them to the OP here. What works for you?
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This might also be a good place to add tips & tricks to extending battery life.
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-Close programs that you aren't using.
-Don't leave your camera or navigation running in the background.
-Turn off WiFi & GPS etc when you aren't using them.
-Don't run your screen at full brightness if you can help it.
-Figure out what uses more battery life than other things:
Pandora, internet browsing, downloading, camera/camcorder, Angry Birds etc.
If you are rooted, try and narrow it down to the best kernel/theme for your situation. I've found that I have better battery with a non-voodoo kernel but the performance increase is worth it so that's a trade-off that I make.
Let's hear from our readers: What is working for you?
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Would not surprise me if this is all it is. I have turned my phone off at 5% for an hour and turned it back on without charging and then it showed 45%. I know when batteries are low letting them sit a little bit can help, but not that much.
It is just being reported inaccurately by the OS.
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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Yes, but not as a thread, it gets posted in everyone else's "Why does my battery life suck ass" threads, so I made this so maybe people would see it and try it before posting another useless question thread in Development.
Definitely works though. Did it yesterday. Good post. It has been posted in other threads ... but I think we all know people don't read through everything very often.
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I have the battery charger and 3 batteries, I always run my battery low and leave it in the charger for a day.
I did this last night and it didn't work too well for me.
Also, when I go to wipe battery stats in the recovery, it doesn't tell me if it wiped or not, just goes back to the advanced menu.
And also, should I be concerned that when I cold boot into the recovery, it doesn't appear to be CWM? It says Android recovery...I know I have CWM recovery installed.
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Wow same here..I just took mine off the charger bout 10 minutes ago and it's at 95% now. I guess I'm gonna let the battery run completely dead and charge it and see what happens.
I did something similar. I charged to 100% while it was on, removed from charger then powered off. When phone was off I plugged charger back in and waited til it was at 100% then unplugged again and powered on. Waited until phone was completely on then unplugged again and connected to charger. Waited til it was at 100% and while still plugged in at 100% booted into recovery and wiped battery stats. Then rebooted phone into OS and unplugged. I had tried this previously with DL09 and it helped a little. Last night I wanted to see how my battery would drain after doing this. With WiFi on and I got about 10 emails during the night, from 8:30pm to 6:00am I lost only 13%!!! Previously I would have lost from 35 to 40%. ymmv
jv
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Yeah looks like I'll be going back to DL09.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
johnnyv5 said:
Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out too. It seems to have solved itself. Right now it is showing 47% usage. Sorry I couldn't help.
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This is a proven technique, and it takes patience. Seeing the battery drop from 100% down to 95 or 96% after unplugging is normal behavior. I've done this already. Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 1% battery. If you're too impatient to take the time to do this, that's your loss. You'll see the battery life "improve" over the course of a few days as the reporting gets more and more accurate.
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I agree with supplysidejesus. This is a standard practice and should be done with each major rom or kernel install. This leak hasn't been put long enough for most of us to know what our expected battery life will be yet. Give it a few days for your phones to adjust.
ataranine said:
yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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try disabling gps in the notifications, that worked for me, but once i turn gps on again, it will drive up to a high percentage.
I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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Felinos11 said:
I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
I was running bionix from before I decided to switch. I flashed back to stock via Odin and flashed to ICS Passion v11. It's an excellent ROM but my battery life is abysmal. Just texting for 5 mins drains it about 8%. I have to charge my phone 3x a day in order to keep it alive. Really like this rom so does anyone have suggestions on what to tweak or disable to fix this?
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I was running bionix from before I decided to switch. I flashed back to stock via Odin and flashed to ICS Passion v11. It's an excellent ROM but my battery life is abysmal. Just texting for 5 mins drains it about 8%. I have to charge my phone 3x a day in order to keep it alive. Really like this rom so does anyone have suggestions on what to tweak or disable to fix this?
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Yeah same for me.. I had to buy the Samsung Galaxy Epic 4g 1800mAh battery.. It solved my problem. You can get one on amazon for like 20 bucks. It's totally worth it. For some reason the 1500mAh battery gets random drains on this ROM
It's not just this ROM. I have noticed it on all the ICS Roms. Some of the apps are not configured properly for ICS yet, thus the battery drain. When you re-install your apps using Titanium Backup try not restoring data.
Bump for possible solutions. The new battery is a good idea. I hear so many people claiming battery life is superb and mine is far from it. I never restored apps with titanium backup either. Everything was clean slate
When I was running ics, i had a few times where my phone would not deep sleep. I just reinstalled and it seemed to correct it.
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When I first installed Passion V11 my first full charge only got me about 8 hours of use. I installed BetterbatteryStats and CPU Spy, and Battery Monitor Widget. I looked at the logs and saw that Beautiful Widgets was causing alarms and kernel wakelocks almost non-stop. After identifying the problem app and uninstalling it, my phone still has 70% battery with 24 hours of use.
You guys just need an 1800 mAH battery. The thing can last me a day and a half with no charge (assuming I put it in airplane mode at night). You can find it for $10-20 on Amazon or eBay.
To get best battery life all you need to do is "Charge Cycles"
For ICS Passion v8,
Charge Cycle means completely charging your phone too 100%, reboot and LET IT DRAIN UPTO 0%
Now charge it to 100% again without interuption and then reboot.
This is one/first charge cycle. Also get unused toggles off and remove unused widgets.
I would add that you need to go into Clockwork Mod manager by rebooting your phone, selecting advanced, wipe battery stats, repeat after drain to 0 and recharge to 100%
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I installed BetterbatteryStats and CPU Spy, and Battery Monitor Widget. I looked at the logs and saw that Beautiful Widgets was causing alarms and kernel wakelocks almost non-stop. After identifying the problem app and uninstalling it,
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All this is in my guide stickied in the Q&A section.
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Charge Cycle means completely charging your phone too 100%, reboot and LET IT DRAIN UPTO 0%
Now charge it to 100% again without interuption and then reboot.
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Best way to get the most out of your battery, hands down (although I never let it fully discharge. Got pegged once on another phone and it never held a charge again. My own superstitiion though b/c it was an entirely different manufacturer).
Also get unused toggles off and remove unused widgets.
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Also in my guide
I would add that you need to go into Clockwork Mod manager by rebooting your phone, selecting advanced, wipe battery stats, repeat after drain to 0 and recharge to 100%
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This has been debunked but I still believe in it and what I have seen from my own personal experience.