***NOTICE***
The ROM Manager version of CWM does NOT wipe battery stats properly, as with many other things. What you need is jt1134's version of CWM that is all happy and works and stuff.
You can find his happy CWM here. And here. And also here.
And here.
Big thanks to LegionTHEFecalExcretion for the heads up on that.
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NOTE: On current DL30 and EB01 ROMs, you will not see battery life like you did on DL09 with undervolted kernels. There are NO undervolted kernels as of yet, everything kernel wise with Froyo ROMs in very much stock. These steps will improve your battery life in comparison to when you flashed Froyo, but you are not going to see spectacular changes in battery life up to what you were getting with undervolted DL09, etc. It's just not possible until we get undervolted kernels and Froyo matures for our device, development wise.
Hi everyone, I've been seeing a lot of threads about bad battery life, whether switching to Kaoscinate, Vanilla, or DL30. Stop it! Just kidding. There is a simple process everyone should follow when switching between different enough ROMs, like AOSP, CM6 and TW Eclair and Froyo. This is how you retrain your battery.
1. Charge your battery to 100% (when it gets there, let it SIT there, your phone is NOT reporting correctly).
2. Reboot to Recovery and Advanced -> Wipe Battery Stats.
3. Reboot, and use your phone until it is VERY low (5-10%, you can let it die if you want).
4. Charge your phone back to 100%
5. (Optional) Power down, then power on phone. (Thanks goes to BrwnSuperman for this suggestion, give it a try!)
Your battery issues should be solved. This needs to be done every once in a while, especially when switching between different ROMs and OS versions.
User dalrym05 posted this alternate method for retraining the battery on page 4 as well, so I thought I would share it here in the OP. I'm posting this as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK method, as I have not tested it, and am not quite sure what the *228 steps for it actually accomplish and have to do with retraining the OS battery reporting, so I'm leaving it quoted to dalrym05 for the time being.
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Here were my steps to better battery.
1.*228 option 1
2.*228 option 2
3. Run battery completely dead to 0%
4. Plug in and boot immediately into cwm
5. Wipe battery stats and dalvik cache
6. Reboot and let charge fully before unplugging
7. Completely discharge again and fully charge again.
After this you should notice a very nice increase in battery as I did. My battery life is back up to par with eclair.
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NOTE: I did edit his post to make it a little more clear. I'm slightly anal retentive that way.
HybridByNature had an excellent suggestion on page 4. If people have good tips and tricks for maintaining good battery life, and they are easily reproducible, then I will gladly add them to the OP here. What works for you?
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This might also be a good place to add tips & tricks to extending battery life.
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-Close programs that you aren't using.
-Don't leave your camera or navigation running in the background.
-Turn off WiFi & GPS etc when you aren't using them.
-Don't run your screen at full brightness if you can help it.
-Figure out what uses more battery life than other things:
Pandora, internet browsing, downloading, camera/camcorder, Angry Birds etc.
If you are rooted, try and narrow it down to the best kernel/theme for your situation. I've found that I have better battery with a non-voodoo kernel but the performance increase is worth it so that's a trade-off that I make.
Let's hear from our readers: What is working for you?
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Would not surprise me if this is all it is. I have turned my phone off at 5% for an hour and turned it back on without charging and then it showed 45%. I know when batteries are low letting them sit a little bit can help, but not that much.
It is just being reported inaccurately by the OS.
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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Yes, but not as a thread, it gets posted in everyone else's "Why does my battery life suck ass" threads, so I made this so maybe people would see it and try it before posting another useless question thread in Development.
Definitely works though. Did it yesterday. Good post. It has been posted in other threads ... but I think we all know people don't read through everything very often.
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I have the battery charger and 3 batteries, I always run my battery low and leave it in the charger for a day.
I did this last night and it didn't work too well for me.
Also, when I go to wipe battery stats in the recovery, it doesn't tell me if it wiped or not, just goes back to the advanced menu.
And also, should I be concerned that when I cold boot into the recovery, it doesn't appear to be CWM? It says Android recovery...I know I have CWM recovery installed.
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Wow same here..I just took mine off the charger bout 10 minutes ago and it's at 95% now. I guess I'm gonna let the battery run completely dead and charge it and see what happens.
I did something similar. I charged to 100% while it was on, removed from charger then powered off. When phone was off I plugged charger back in and waited til it was at 100% then unplugged again and powered on. Waited until phone was completely on then unplugged again and connected to charger. Waited til it was at 100% and while still plugged in at 100% booted into recovery and wiped battery stats. Then rebooted phone into OS and unplugged. I had tried this previously with DL09 and it helped a little. Last night I wanted to see how my battery would drain after doing this. With WiFi on and I got about 10 emails during the night, from 8:30pm to 6:00am I lost only 13%!!! Previously I would have lost from 35 to 40%. ymmv
jv
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Yeah looks like I'll be going back to DL09.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
johnnyv5 said:
Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out too. It seems to have solved itself. Right now it is showing 47% usage. Sorry I couldn't help.
Jv
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This is a proven technique, and it takes patience. Seeing the battery drop from 100% down to 95 or 96% after unplugging is normal behavior. I've done this already. Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 1% battery. If you're too impatient to take the time to do this, that's your loss. You'll see the battery life "improve" over the course of a few days as the reporting gets more and more accurate.
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I agree with supplysidejesus. This is a standard practice and should be done with each major rom or kernel install. This leak hasn't been put long enough for most of us to know what our expected battery life will be yet. Give it a few days for your phones to adjust.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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try disabling gps in the notifications, that worked for me, but once i turn gps on again, it will drive up to a high percentage.
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Hi,
I'm currently using JuicePlotter to see how my battery drains over time and this past night I think it drained more than it should (or maybe not).
For the ones who don't know, JuicePlotter runs in the background (of course) analyzing your battery, that too wastes battery juice of course. Thought, the app dev says on his website:
Perhaps the most important feature of JuicePlotter is that - unlike all similar apps and widgets - it's very battery friendly;
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So I'm not sure if the problem lies on JuicePlotter or not, I'll have to test it one night without it...
This is how JuicePlotter displays it's graph:
The coloured bands along the graph show your screen brightness, radio usage, charging status and battery temperature. Just scroll around to find precise information and make sense of the different colours.
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I went to bed at 4:10 with the battery at 97%. Around 13:00, it was at 89% and I didn't receive any calls/messages/mails/whatever during the night. The WiFi/3G was off all night along with the screen of course. The battery temperature remained the same too. I don't know if it makes a difference but I normally turn off Auto-Sync if the WiFi is off too.
Is it normal to lose 8% of battery juice in 9h in standby? I think it's a bit too much, but I don't know... Does the same happens to you too? What else cloud it be?
Interesting looking app. I've never noticed much of a lose overnight. Just installed the app, will fully charge and give you an update tomorrow.
Also how's the cell reception in your area? I've heard it can drain the battery a far bit if the reception is low.
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I'll have to do more testing but I think it's the app's problem... Tonight, I went to bed with 83% and it was exactly the same when I woke up...
I fully charged mine last night and turned on JuicePlotter. Still showing 100% this morning. Both in the app and on the phones battery indicator (in the notification bar). Do you know of any other apps similar to this that could be run in tandem?
Weird, Battery Graph also does the same thing...
This needs more days of testing on my part...
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
CitizenLee said:
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
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Wow that is terrible, try apps like Taskpanel and when you add programs to your auto kill list the program kills the programs as long as they are running in the background when the screen is off, however if you are on lets say your browser and you don't go to your homescreen the screen goes off into stand by it will not kill the app. Also try draining your battery to the point it shuts down by itself, plug it in let it charge for a bit, boot into recovery wipe battery stats start up the phone or leave it off (your choice) and let it charge fully. Are you using setcpu or OC Widget or anything? If you are using SetCPU make a profile for when screen is off and make it underclocked like 264 Mhz to 480Mhz, or with OC Widget tick the 'use different screen frequencies' (don't remember what it is called since I don't use it) and do the same; I like SetCPU better because when you turn the screen on it switches profile faster where as OC Widget takes its time however with SetCPU do not use the widget it will cause Sense to FC and I'm not sure about Vanilla.
Hope this makes sense since all my ideas are said at once.
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shelnes said:
The way I've learned to recalibrate the battery is to let it go down to 5%, boot phone into recovery and wipe batterystats, then power off the phone. Let the phone charge until the green led is on without turning it on. Then turn on and use the phone as usual. Learned it over at modaco. Worked as a charm, and batterytime was improved. I have personally experienced strange batterybehaviour after periods with flashing a lot of roms.
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Here.
That's interesting...
Cause I've been playing with ROMs latetly, creating my own, testing hacks and stuff... And most of the time the phone is plugged and the battery is charged, during the flashing process it's using the battery and then it charges again. I also have to leave from time to time and when I get back I continue my stuff, meaning I'm charging the battery at high levels.
I'll have to try that calibrate method...
For now, for the past 2 nights, with JuicePlotter off, I've noticed the battery level did not change at all during the night. Tonight I'm going to try one more time with JuicePlotter on...
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Wow that is terrible
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Wiped battery stats at 5% last night, let the phone die and then charged whislt off until green light came on. Been keeping an eye on it all day and there has been a noticable improvement.
The phone came off charge at around 2am (so around 12hrs ago) and it has only lost 20%, which is a lot better than I was getting before.
It was probably just due to me messing about with some many ROMs and update zips lately as I tend not to have too much crap running in the background (I use OSMonitor).
I will look into setCPU but I remember trying it before with VR12 and it ended up causing some weird problems meaning I needed to do a full wipe to get everything working again.
Thanks for the help
This night, with JuicePlotter on, I only lost 1%, seems reasonable now... I don't know why that one time I lost 8% during the night. Maybe an isolated case? Something was probably running when it shouldn't, I just don't know what.
I recently flashed Froshedyo to my eris and my fiances eris. I set up setcpu and auto killer its now on aggressive. Today uninstalled setcpu thinking that it was affecting battery life since my fiance mentioned that his battery went from 90 something to 54 in 30 mins. Mine went from fully charged to 61 in less than 3 hours. We dont use our phones heavily. I do use the internet most days but not for long periods of time. I did wipe the battery stats on both phones and still havent seen much of a difference.
My question is, is there anything else I can do to get really good battery life. Do I have to do the collins battery tweak because I was going to try that next or would I have to end up switching roms which I really dont want to have to do but will if it will mean improvement. Id like the phone to not be dead after less than 24 hrs of use. Thank you for any help.
When you flashed and wiped battery stats was the phone fully charged then did you completely drain the battery and then charge to 100%? Do you have wi-fi and or blue tooth on all the time? Just trying to start with the easy things... I've heard of no issues of bad battery life with sheds roms. In fact quite the opposite. But I think his includes cpuboost in which case you don't need set cpu as they will conflict each other.
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I charged the phone to 100% wiped them this morning and then went about using the phone as I usually would. Sounds like I missed a step. So I have to charge to 100% then let it die then charge again then wipe? I
I never have wi-fi or blue tooth on.
Yes the rom did come with cpu boost. I believe I have that set 710/245. Should I change that as well?
i found this very useful on the desire forums
Hungry Man said:
After much googling this is the way that seems to be best when recalibrating battery. I just see so many people with poor battery life and it's likely because you've flashed new kernels and roms 50 times a week =p
Minor update! I recalibrate my phone today and realized something, this is reflected in a few new steps.
Step 1: Charge phone to 100%
Step 2: Wipe battery stats and shut phone off.
Step 3: UNPLUG PHONE and power on
Step 4: Leave phone on until it it shuts itself off. Do not plug it in.
Step 5: Turn phone back on, still unplugged. If it can't turn on that's fine. If it can turn on let it fully drain again.
Step 6: LEAVE PHONE OFF. Plug the phone in and let it FULLY charge without interruption. I let my phone hit the green light and then wait an hour before step 7.
Step 7: After it's hit green and you've waiting a while unplug your phone. Do not turn it on. Wait a minute and then plug it back in. If the light stays amber for more than a few seconds (like 10 tops) leave it charging again until it's green.
Step 8: Repeat step 7 until the light turns green very soon after you plug it back in.
Step 9: Unplug and turn your phone on. Enjoy your (hopefully) extended battery.
I also suggest using "Juiceplotter" widget. It "records" your phones battery usage and uses it to predict future battery life. It won't work perfectly for the first day or so but after it gets used to your habits it's very good at predicting.
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I am going to have to try that. Thank you. =D I hope it helps.
Charred the phone to 100% then wipe battery stats. Let the battery drain till the phone shuts off then charge it again. Wait untill its fully charged to unplug it and power phone on. You shouldn't need to wipe everything and flash again. You also dont want to use cpuboost and setcpu together. That will cause conflictions. I can't say on the settings because I don't use either of these. Im also not sure about task killer.
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Thank you again. I only installed the auto killer due to I read a few places that it helped a lot I personally haven't seen much a a difference. How long does your battery last just out of curiosity.
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Thank you again. I only installed the auto killer due to I read a few places that it helped a lot I personally haven't seen much a a difference. How long does your battery last just out of curiosity.
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I would probably get about 30 hours is my estimate but I plug it in every night. I use mine alot... some would almost say heavily. Lol. I would probably say moderate though. I don't use any cpu o/c apparently or task killers myself either.
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Wow thats awesome that it lasts so long for you. Sounds like your doing something right.
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Wow thats awesome that it lasts so long for you. Sounds like your doing something right.
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I'd say Tazz is doing something right lol. He made the rom.
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very true.
Good luck. Hope everything works out for you. Shed makes great roms too and his should also get excellent battery life. If I can help anymore feel free to pm me.
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I use advanced task killer set to clear every 30 minutes. Cpuboost and setcpu are disabled and the battery is just fine. Stays charged even if I leave wifi on (but apparently are closed)
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Ive noticed serious battery drain since I first bought this fascinate from telus. On 2.1it lasted around 11 hours. Since upgrading to 2.2 leak, id say 8 hoirs max with only approx 1 hour of uusage and the rest on standby. I turned of sync, auto brightnrss and turned brightndss as.low as possible. I make sure no apps r running in the background. Yet it still dies superfast. Is this a issue with my battery thr phone itself or firmware or kernal. Its been a week of trying to find the problem so any help would b greatly appreciated. At tgis time im running 2.2 leak with all the files it came with and no root. Thx in advNce
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
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And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
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sounds about average for a fascinate....
I'm on telus as well and also have terrible battery life, I've found no fix other than completely turning off Data using the toggle when holding the power button. Flashing a new rom might fix this but I've been to scared to since I bricked a phone trying it the first time. Hopefully when/if ever we get a 2.3 update it fixes this
Does anyone know where one can get an extended battery for this? I picked one up but it's for the friggin Verizon US version, and the battery cover isn't compatible, even though the battery fits(camera doesn't align, speaker's not even close).
Seriously, the American counterpart's accessories have been my biggest frustration with this phone, next to battery life...
Thought I'd give this a bump. The battery life on this Telus Fascinate 4G is truly disappointing and jumping through hoops trying to find and kill apps and services with and without utilities is wasting far too much of my time.
Anybody get a good handle on this?
Bump for same problem.
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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hhp_211 said:
what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I had installed the program and it didn't really show anything abnormal. Although after installing the Bat Meter, when i shutdown it killed the phone till i ODIN. So tried on the other phone as well. Same thing. Install it and compared notes. Reboot phone and had to ODIN. So maybe bad app? Well whatever. I didn't see anything unusual. Although I did notice something strange about the phone that's bad with charging. I already eliminated the battery as the problem as well as charger. But the phone that is eating battery faster than it can charge, it gets warmer at idle than the other phone. It charged just super super tiny faster than the battery eats using just idle display on lock-screen. As well this phone also with a fully charged battery will read 100% But after about 21 minutes of poweramp at 33% volume on headphones will read about 52%. Then sitting rest at idle no display from 52% down to about 14% popup around another 5 min. Then completely dead in about 3 minutes. And the phone is pretty warm. Today it was ambient temp of around 87* outside and sitting in shade and it was hot enough that it wasn't comfortable on my cheek for more than 20 seconds. Half the time the temps are normal. Now remember I'm not running overclock and actually under clocked to 800. Ive tried 3 different roms with diff kernels and same. Could it possibly be a bad heat-sink? And the extra heat is killing battery?
[Q] Battery Drain
I recently was given a Fascinate and am having similar problems. I was told the phone had a bad battery, so I ordered a replacement. Once I got the new battery in, I flashed the phone with the Carbon ROM [the phone was unlocked, but running the OTA 2.3.5 I believe]. Everything seemed to be working fine the first week or two, but now there appears to be a serious battery drain or leak after I power the phone down. I can charge the phone to 100%, power it on and use it for a period of time, then power it down with 90% or more battery life, but when I turn the phone back on, the battery will either be really low, or completely dead, where the phone won't respond at all until I plug the charger back in.
I reflashed the phone with an AOKP ROM to see if that'd make a difference, but it didn't. I tried using the first battery and the drain/leak still persists. The commonality between the two roms is the Devil kernel, so I'm going to flash a different ROM with a different kernel to see if that makes a difference. I also installed the app mentioned above to log the battery stats/usage to see if anything stands out there.
Has anyone experienced something similiar - the Fascinate consuming battery life while powered off?
Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try that. I've left the phone on today, just put it to sleep during periods of inactivity, and the battery is currently at 75% with occasional mild use after 8+ hours "on".
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After almost two weeks of use, I can confirm that if I power the phone down and do nothing else, the battery will continue to drain to 0%. If I power the phone down then remove and replace the battery, it's fine. It's an extra step, but it works. Thanks again.
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Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Regardless of any calibration method i try, i can never get an accurate battery reading. (Before i continue, ill point out that every app ive used to check my battery health has said "good")
Ive tried calibrating with/without the calibration app. Ive tried just deleting the batterystats via rootexplorer. ive tried calibrating before/after cycling. nothing seems to work.
the reason i know its not working, is because i will calibrate/cycle. lets say ill start a day with 100%. ill unplug my phone, leave for work, and use my phone moderately to feel out the battery drain. then at some point, ill plug it into my charger at work......just now, for example, after three hours of use my phone went from 100%-71%....i went to charge it, and once i plugged it in my percentage display changed from 71% to 63%!!! my percentage will constantly jump up and down throughout the day when i plug/unplug my phone.
anyone else experience this?
PS - its not ROM or kernel, its been happening to me for the last 2-3 months...ive flashed several roms/kernels in that timespan, and have ODINed at least once.
PPS - Ill also add that when i unplug my phone to start my day (after its been charging all night), it will stay at 100% for about 30-45min, at which point it will then start draining on an average of 1%/10min. i feel this may have something to do with it.....does it have something to do with me calibrating at too high of a voltage??
Well as for your inaccurate battery readings, i would suggest that you to odin back to stock and. Leave the phone to charge for 4hours(the time my phone takes to charge from 0-100%)then use the battery calibration app or wipe battery stats via cwm. And as for the draining it might be corrected after you calibrate it.
I know this coz I have experienced this in the past and i'd lose around 1% every 20-25mins now.
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Well as for your inaccurate battery readings, i would suggest that you to odin back to stock and then use the battery calibration app or wipe battery stats via cwm. And as for the draining it might be corrected after you calibrate it.
I know this coz I have experienced this in the past and i'd lose around 1% every 20-25mins now.
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please read OP
UPDATE: i just rebooted my phone at 56%....it booted up and it displayed 24%......wtf is this
You said you've ODIN'd like once.... dude, if you aren't going to be cool with suggestions, esp the most obvious ones, not sure what it is you expect from us.
Should I hit thanks? JK
Call T-Mo and tell them and get a new battery.... they WILL give you one.
the best way to calibrate ur phone and its worked perfect for me. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it and as soon as unplug it go to sgs tools and run apply script and inside apply script there is delete battery stats. Click on that and it will take less then 10 sec and ur battery will be running great. Now this works great on my phone i hope it works on urs nicely.
At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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You said you've ODIN'd like once.... dude, if you aren't going to be cool with suggestions, esp the most obvious ones, not sure what it is you expect from us.
Should I hit thanks? JK
Call T-Mo and tell them and get a new battery.... they WILL give you one.
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So if i clearly state in the OP that it was happening to me before and after ive ODINed, and someone says you should ODIN...thats not a lazy suggestion?
or if someone says to try calibrating, when I stated several times in the OP that ive tried multiple calibration methods...thats not a lazy suggestion?
What i expect is if ive pointed out that ive already taken troubleshooting steps, then dont suggest those troubleshooting steps. no one is forcing a response, so if you dont know, simply dont answer. dont just read the title, skim the post, and give programmed suggestions.
theres absolutely nothing wrong with trying to seek out answers other than the conventional ones. ODIN and reflash are the laziest responses......granted, they will often fix problems, but there may be other ways to solve certain issues.
The goal of my OP was to see if anyone else had experienced it, and if someone responded affirmatively, i would ask them about their calibration methods and we could brainstorm. I would much rather seek out problem-solving knowledge before resorting to ODIN/reflash/new battery/new device...which teach nothing.
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the best way to calibrate ur phone and its worked perfect for me. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it and as soon as unplug it go to sgs tools and run apply script and inside apply script there is delete battery stats. Click on that and it will take less then 10 sec and ur battery will be running great. Now this works great on my phone i hope it works on urs nicely.
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This is typically the method i use. i usually let it charge for an hour or so beyond when it reaches 100%, just to ensure i have a full charge. this has not worked for me. i also take it a step further and let my phone discharge all the way until it dies, let it charge overnight when powered off, then ill wipe the battery stats first thing when i wake up.
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At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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i will definitely read this...this is something ive always been very curious about
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At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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this was an extremely informative read. it doesnt shed light on all of my problems...but it definitely explains the longer battery life upon unplugging in the morning. my only question is how am i getting that extra juice when im not actually "bump charging"...i just plug it in when i go to bed, and unplug it when i wake up.....maybe my phone doesnt stop sucking in a charge the moment it hits 100%?
i agree with what he says about not paying too much attention to your battery.....but when its bouncing up and down by 20% increments, thats cause for concern haha. im going to calibrate one more time tonight, and i i get similar results i will swap batteries with another vibrant user.
do you guys suggest deep cycling, before or after wiping battery stats? (or should i just wipe stats at a full charge, and not deep cycle at all) >>> there seems to be different opinions on deep cycling throughout XDA
I have had a similar issue. After flashing Roms, plyugging and unplugging it was jumping by a good 10-15%. This turned out to be a simple bad calibration. Normal jumping should be up to 2%, more than that usually indicates bad calibration. Granted, normally nowdays, mine does not jump at all.
I recommend cycling it fully empty. That means, go ahead and drain to 0. Then let it shut off. Then turn it on again. Keep turning it on till it STOPs being able to turn on. Then charge it completely. Don't charge overnight as that will charge to 90-95% as the article suggested. Charge it while you're awake so you see when it hits 100%. It's even preffered if you charged it while the phone is off. After it hits 100%, give it another hour on the charger. You can even bump charge to ensure it hits full charge. To bump charge, after it's full, disconnect and reconnect the charger every 20 minutes for that last hour you're charging. Then unplug it, boot into recovery using the 3 buttons. Wipe the battery stats from there. Boot normally into your ROM. See if it is still jumping by 20%. Worst case scenario should be a 5% jump. Let us know what happens.
^ See, there is my confusion... there is a great example of how to calibrate, but the OP seems to get in a tiffy for offering up a suggestion he has done (calibrating). I'd also be cautious about the bump charging as that will really hurt the battery. I'm not one to try and get something for free, but why not just get a new battery?
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^ See, there is my confusion... there is a great example of how to calibrate, but the OP seems to get in a tiffy for offering up a suggestion he has done (calibrating). I'd also be cautious about the bump charging as that will really hurt the battery. I'm not one to try and get something for free, but why not just get a new battery?
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I support the new battery notion too. It's FREE.
Drain your phone til its dead.... charge it up full.... run a battery calibration app on the market and let it die fully again then charge to 100 percent one last time... good to go!
You might even try using a differnet battery
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Regardless of any calibration method i try, i can never get an accurate battery reading. (Before i continue, ill point out that every app ive used to check my battery health has said "good")
Ive tried calibrating with/without the calibration app. Ive tried just deleting the batterystats via rootexplorer. ive tried calibrating before/after cycling. nothing seems to work.
the reason i know its not working, is because i will calibrate/cycle. lets say ill start a day with 100%. ill unplug my phone, leave for work, and use my phone moderately to feel out the battery drain. then at some point, ill plug it into my charger at work......just now, for example, after three hours of use my phone went from 100%-71%....i went to charge it, and once i plugged it in my percentage display changed from 71% to 63%!!! my percentage will constantly jump up and down throughout the day when i plug/unplug my phone.
anyone else experience this?
Topshelf, I have run into these problems, There are a couple of things that cause the battery to be wonky.
1st Samsung has the battery set not to 100% but actually less (95-98%) so when it is charged and reads 100% as soon as you unplug you get a immediate reading of 95-98% (nice huh?)
The dev/mods, and others have tried to rectify this. No one has found an exact fix for this. On thing I have found that does help is to charge to 100% then unplug and then plug into the computer and recharge back to 100% (the lower milliamp off the computer seems to allow you to get to a higher percentage). Then calibrate. Now when you do that the battery calibration/battery widget/and phone All will read more close (for me +/-3%). This is one of the issues you raised.
The other is the battery drain, with some of the custom roms the gallery seems to one of the culprits, mms sometimes stays on with others and some others that are in TSR but instead of being asleep they are taking resources.
I have used systems panel to trouble shoot and that has helped me. I think you may want to ask Explodingboy70, Roman or whitehawkx, they know more on this and maybe can help.
Hope you get it solved......... stay with it you will........... I did.........
PS the mv setting for the battery is supposed to be 4200mv mine never gets above 4196mv
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I am new to the roms/kernals just got on it this month or so but i am using community rom 1.3 nd OTB 1.3 kernal and my battery is HORIBLE!! it will go down 10% with no wifi nd no data in like ten minutes. Can someone please help me set up my voltage control or tell me what is going on and why my battery is so bad? Thanks
ballerfree said:
I am new to the roms/kernals just got on it this month or so but i am using community rom 1.3 nd OTB 1.3 kernal and my battery is HORIBLE!! it will go down 10% with no wifi nd no data in like ten minutes. Can someone please help me set up my voltage control or tell me what is going on and why my battery is so bad? Thanks
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Try Battery Calibration.
Charge your phone to 100% "on" > turn your phone "off" and charge up to 100% > Turn "on" and charger again to 100% > Go into Recovery > Advanced > Wipe Bstats.
If it doesn't work, let me know.
1% a min, that has to be a calibration issue. deff try what the second post said first.
ok so i just did what you told me and it is still dropping bad. i just finished it like 10 mins ago and its aready 96% with no data no wifi still idk what to do andymore.
you have to let it go through several calibrations. Charge to 100% and let it die, and recharge to 100%. go through this process several times and you will see improvement.
Ok ima try to keep doing it for the next day or two
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When addressing the massive battery drain of Froyo ROMS, the battery stats wipe / calibrate is weak and pathetic. It only works as a placebo for people who don't have a scientific approach to battery drain.
Froyo ROMS on Fascinate have all kinds of battery issues. Some people notice them, some don't. Do the following and it may help:
1) toggle airplane mode each boot
2) enter / exit maps each boot
3) disable location services
4) set wifi sleep plcy. to screen off
5) disable auto rotation
Iphone 4: excellent battery life out of the box. No hacks. No forum trolling. What a novel idea!
Froyo on Fascinate is half baked and was tossed over the fence like a dog turd.
Scrappy1 said:
When addressing the massive battery drain of Froyo ROMS, the battery stats wipe / calibrate is weak and pathetic. It only works as a placebo for people who don't have a scientific approach to battery drain.
Froyo ROMS on Fascinate have all kinds of battery issues. Some people notice them, some don't. Do the following and it may help:
1) toggle airplane mode each boot
2) enter / exit maps each boot
3) disable location services
4) set wifi sleep plcy. to screen off
5) disable auto rotation
Iphone 4: excellent battery life out of the box. No hacks. No forum trolling. What a novel idea!
Froyo on Fascinate is half baked and was tossed over the fence like a dog turd.
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I don't think 1% an min can be attributed to any run away process or any normal or abnormal use. I may be wrong but I don't think that kind of drain rate is possible without an actual short in the hardware. I would love to hear the devs chime in on the calibration issue as my only knowledge of it is just repeating what I've read.
Oh and unplugging your phone and finding that your down to 95% is normal. Your phone won't hold the 100% charge to prevent damage from over charge. When charging it will hit 100% then stop until out drops to around 95% them start back up again.
So don't count what it "drops" in the first few secs after unplugging.
Iv been doing this for two weeks nd it still is horrible on battery.....idk what to do nemore
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Iv been doing this for two weeks nd it still is horrible on battery.....idk what to do nemore
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Why don't you try a different kernel? Maybe the PB&J variety?