Regardless of any calibration method i try, i can never get an accurate battery reading. (Before i continue, ill point out that every app ive used to check my battery health has said "good")
Ive tried calibrating with/without the calibration app. Ive tried just deleting the batterystats via rootexplorer. ive tried calibrating before/after cycling. nothing seems to work.
the reason i know its not working, is because i will calibrate/cycle. lets say ill start a day with 100%. ill unplug my phone, leave for work, and use my phone moderately to feel out the battery drain. then at some point, ill plug it into my charger at work......just now, for example, after three hours of use my phone went from 100%-71%....i went to charge it, and once i plugged it in my percentage display changed from 71% to 63%!!! my percentage will constantly jump up and down throughout the day when i plug/unplug my phone.
anyone else experience this?
PS - its not ROM or kernel, its been happening to me for the last 2-3 months...ive flashed several roms/kernels in that timespan, and have ODINed at least once.
PPS - Ill also add that when i unplug my phone to start my day (after its been charging all night), it will stay at 100% for about 30-45min, at which point it will then start draining on an average of 1%/10min. i feel this may have something to do with it.....does it have something to do with me calibrating at too high of a voltage??
Well as for your inaccurate battery readings, i would suggest that you to odin back to stock and. Leave the phone to charge for 4hours(the time my phone takes to charge from 0-100%)then use the battery calibration app or wipe battery stats via cwm. And as for the draining it might be corrected after you calibrate it.
I know this coz I have experienced this in the past and i'd lose around 1% every 20-25mins now.
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Well as for your inaccurate battery readings, i would suggest that you to odin back to stock and then use the battery calibration app or wipe battery stats via cwm. And as for the draining it might be corrected after you calibrate it.
I know this coz I have experienced this in the past and i'd lose around 1% every 20-25mins now.
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please read OP
UPDATE: i just rebooted my phone at 56%....it booted up and it displayed 24%......wtf is this
You said you've ODIN'd like once.... dude, if you aren't going to be cool with suggestions, esp the most obvious ones, not sure what it is you expect from us.
Should I hit thanks? JK
Call T-Mo and tell them and get a new battery.... they WILL give you one.
the best way to calibrate ur phone and its worked perfect for me. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it and as soon as unplug it go to sgs tools and run apply script and inside apply script there is delete battery stats. Click on that and it will take less then 10 sec and ur battery will be running great. Now this works great on my phone i hope it works on urs nicely.
At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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You said you've ODIN'd like once.... dude, if you aren't going to be cool with suggestions, esp the most obvious ones, not sure what it is you expect from us.
Should I hit thanks? JK
Call T-Mo and tell them and get a new battery.... they WILL give you one.
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So if i clearly state in the OP that it was happening to me before and after ive ODINed, and someone says you should ODIN...thats not a lazy suggestion?
or if someone says to try calibrating, when I stated several times in the OP that ive tried multiple calibration methods...thats not a lazy suggestion?
What i expect is if ive pointed out that ive already taken troubleshooting steps, then dont suggest those troubleshooting steps. no one is forcing a response, so if you dont know, simply dont answer. dont just read the title, skim the post, and give programmed suggestions.
theres absolutely nothing wrong with trying to seek out answers other than the conventional ones. ODIN and reflash are the laziest responses......granted, they will often fix problems, but there may be other ways to solve certain issues.
The goal of my OP was to see if anyone else had experienced it, and if someone responded affirmatively, i would ask them about their calibration methods and we could brainstorm. I would much rather seek out problem-solving knowledge before resorting to ODIN/reflash/new battery/new device...which teach nothing.
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the best way to calibrate ur phone and its worked perfect for me. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it and as soon as unplug it go to sgs tools and run apply script and inside apply script there is delete battery stats. Click on that and it will take less then 10 sec and ur battery will be running great. Now this works great on my phone i hope it works on urs nicely.
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This is typically the method i use. i usually let it charge for an hour or so beyond when it reaches 100%, just to ensure i have a full charge. this has not worked for me. i also take it a step further and let my phone discharge all the way until it dies, let it charge overnight when powered off, then ill wipe the battery stats first thing when i wake up.
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At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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i will definitely read this...this is something ive always been very curious about
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At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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this was an extremely informative read. it doesnt shed light on all of my problems...but it definitely explains the longer battery life upon unplugging in the morning. my only question is how am i getting that extra juice when im not actually "bump charging"...i just plug it in when i go to bed, and unplug it when i wake up.....maybe my phone doesnt stop sucking in a charge the moment it hits 100%?
i agree with what he says about not paying too much attention to your battery.....but when its bouncing up and down by 20% increments, thats cause for concern haha. im going to calibrate one more time tonight, and i i get similar results i will swap batteries with another vibrant user.
do you guys suggest deep cycling, before or after wiping battery stats? (or should i just wipe stats at a full charge, and not deep cycle at all) >>> there seems to be different opinions on deep cycling throughout XDA
I have had a similar issue. After flashing Roms, plyugging and unplugging it was jumping by a good 10-15%. This turned out to be a simple bad calibration. Normal jumping should be up to 2%, more than that usually indicates bad calibration. Granted, normally nowdays, mine does not jump at all.
I recommend cycling it fully empty. That means, go ahead and drain to 0. Then let it shut off. Then turn it on again. Keep turning it on till it STOPs being able to turn on. Then charge it completely. Don't charge overnight as that will charge to 90-95% as the article suggested. Charge it while you're awake so you see when it hits 100%. It's even preffered if you charged it while the phone is off. After it hits 100%, give it another hour on the charger. You can even bump charge to ensure it hits full charge. To bump charge, after it's full, disconnect and reconnect the charger every 20 minutes for that last hour you're charging. Then unplug it, boot into recovery using the 3 buttons. Wipe the battery stats from there. Boot normally into your ROM. See if it is still jumping by 20%. Worst case scenario should be a 5% jump. Let us know what happens.
^ See, there is my confusion... there is a great example of how to calibrate, but the OP seems to get in a tiffy for offering up a suggestion he has done (calibrating). I'd also be cautious about the bump charging as that will really hurt the battery. I'm not one to try and get something for free, but why not just get a new battery?
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^ See, there is my confusion... there is a great example of how to calibrate, but the OP seems to get in a tiffy for offering up a suggestion he has done (calibrating). I'd also be cautious about the bump charging as that will really hurt the battery. I'm not one to try and get something for free, but why not just get a new battery?
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I support the new battery notion too. It's FREE.
Drain your phone til its dead.... charge it up full.... run a battery calibration app on the market and let it die fully again then charge to 100 percent one last time... good to go!
You might even try using a differnet battery
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Regardless of any calibration method i try, i can never get an accurate battery reading. (Before i continue, ill point out that every app ive used to check my battery health has said "good")
Ive tried calibrating with/without the calibration app. Ive tried just deleting the batterystats via rootexplorer. ive tried calibrating before/after cycling. nothing seems to work.
the reason i know its not working, is because i will calibrate/cycle. lets say ill start a day with 100%. ill unplug my phone, leave for work, and use my phone moderately to feel out the battery drain. then at some point, ill plug it into my charger at work......just now, for example, after three hours of use my phone went from 100%-71%....i went to charge it, and once i plugged it in my percentage display changed from 71% to 63%!!! my percentage will constantly jump up and down throughout the day when i plug/unplug my phone.
anyone else experience this?
Topshelf, I have run into these problems, There are a couple of things that cause the battery to be wonky.
1st Samsung has the battery set not to 100% but actually less (95-98%) so when it is charged and reads 100% as soon as you unplug you get a immediate reading of 95-98% (nice huh?)
The dev/mods, and others have tried to rectify this. No one has found an exact fix for this. On thing I have found that does help is to charge to 100% then unplug and then plug into the computer and recharge back to 100% (the lower milliamp off the computer seems to allow you to get to a higher percentage). Then calibrate. Now when you do that the battery calibration/battery widget/and phone All will read more close (for me +/-3%). This is one of the issues you raised.
The other is the battery drain, with some of the custom roms the gallery seems to one of the culprits, mms sometimes stays on with others and some others that are in TSR but instead of being asleep they are taking resources.
I have used systems panel to trouble shoot and that has helped me. I think you may want to ask Explodingboy70, Roman or whitehawkx, they know more on this and maybe can help.
Hope you get it solved......... stay with it you will........... I did.........
PS the mv setting for the battery is supposed to be 4200mv mine never gets above 4196mv
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Related
***NOTICE***
The ROM Manager version of CWM does NOT wipe battery stats properly, as with many other things. What you need is jt1134's version of CWM that is all happy and works and stuff.
You can find his happy CWM here. And here. And also here.
And here.
Big thanks to LegionTHEFecalExcretion for the heads up on that.
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NOTE: On current DL30 and EB01 ROMs, you will not see battery life like you did on DL09 with undervolted kernels. There are NO undervolted kernels as of yet, everything kernel wise with Froyo ROMs in very much stock. These steps will improve your battery life in comparison to when you flashed Froyo, but you are not going to see spectacular changes in battery life up to what you were getting with undervolted DL09, etc. It's just not possible until we get undervolted kernels and Froyo matures for our device, development wise.
Hi everyone, I've been seeing a lot of threads about bad battery life, whether switching to Kaoscinate, Vanilla, or DL30. Stop it! Just kidding. There is a simple process everyone should follow when switching between different enough ROMs, like AOSP, CM6 and TW Eclair and Froyo. This is how you retrain your battery.
1. Charge your battery to 100% (when it gets there, let it SIT there, your phone is NOT reporting correctly).
2. Reboot to Recovery and Advanced -> Wipe Battery Stats.
3. Reboot, and use your phone until it is VERY low (5-10%, you can let it die if you want).
4. Charge your phone back to 100%
5. (Optional) Power down, then power on phone. (Thanks goes to BrwnSuperman for this suggestion, give it a try!)
Your battery issues should be solved. This needs to be done every once in a while, especially when switching between different ROMs and OS versions.
User dalrym05 posted this alternate method for retraining the battery on page 4 as well, so I thought I would share it here in the OP. I'm posting this as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK method, as I have not tested it, and am not quite sure what the *228 steps for it actually accomplish and have to do with retraining the OS battery reporting, so I'm leaving it quoted to dalrym05 for the time being.
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Here were my steps to better battery.
1.*228 option 1
2.*228 option 2
3. Run battery completely dead to 0%
4. Plug in and boot immediately into cwm
5. Wipe battery stats and dalvik cache
6. Reboot and let charge fully before unplugging
7. Completely discharge again and fully charge again.
After this you should notice a very nice increase in battery as I did. My battery life is back up to par with eclair.
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NOTE: I did edit his post to make it a little more clear. I'm slightly anal retentive that way.
HybridByNature had an excellent suggestion on page 4. If people have good tips and tricks for maintaining good battery life, and they are easily reproducible, then I will gladly add them to the OP here. What works for you?
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This might also be a good place to add tips & tricks to extending battery life.
IE
-Close programs that you aren't using.
-Don't leave your camera or navigation running in the background.
-Turn off WiFi & GPS etc when you aren't using them.
-Don't run your screen at full brightness if you can help it.
-Figure out what uses more battery life than other things:
Pandora, internet browsing, downloading, camera/camcorder, Angry Birds etc.
If you are rooted, try and narrow it down to the best kernel/theme for your situation. I've found that I have better battery with a non-voodoo kernel but the performance increase is worth it so that's a trade-off that I make.
Let's hear from our readers: What is working for you?
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Would not surprise me if this is all it is. I have turned my phone off at 5% for an hour and turned it back on without charging and then it showed 45%. I know when batteries are low letting them sit a little bit can help, but not that much.
It is just being reported inaccurately by the OS.
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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Yes, but not as a thread, it gets posted in everyone else's "Why does my battery life suck ass" threads, so I made this so maybe people would see it and try it before posting another useless question thread in Development.
Definitely works though. Did it yesterday. Good post. It has been posted in other threads ... but I think we all know people don't read through everything very often.
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I have the battery charger and 3 batteries, I always run my battery low and leave it in the charger for a day.
I did this last night and it didn't work too well for me.
Also, when I go to wipe battery stats in the recovery, it doesn't tell me if it wiped or not, just goes back to the advanced menu.
And also, should I be concerned that when I cold boot into the recovery, it doesn't appear to be CWM? It says Android recovery...I know I have CWM recovery installed.
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Wow same here..I just took mine off the charger bout 10 minutes ago and it's at 95% now. I guess I'm gonna let the battery run completely dead and charge it and see what happens.
I did something similar. I charged to 100% while it was on, removed from charger then powered off. When phone was off I plugged charger back in and waited til it was at 100% then unplugged again and powered on. Waited until phone was completely on then unplugged again and connected to charger. Waited til it was at 100% and while still plugged in at 100% booted into recovery and wiped battery stats. Then rebooted phone into OS and unplugged. I had tried this previously with DL09 and it helped a little. Last night I wanted to see how my battery would drain after doing this. With WiFi on and I got about 10 emails during the night, from 8:30pm to 6:00am I lost only 13%!!! Previously I would have lost from 35 to 40%. ymmv
jv
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
miguel11691 said:
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Yeah looks like I'll be going back to DL09.
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out too. It seems to have solved itself. Right now it is showing 47% usage. Sorry I couldn't help.
Jv
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This is a proven technique, and it takes patience. Seeing the battery drop from 100% down to 95 or 96% after unplugging is normal behavior. I've done this already. Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 1% battery. If you're too impatient to take the time to do this, that's your loss. You'll see the battery life "improve" over the course of a few days as the reporting gets more and more accurate.
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I agree with supplysidejesus. This is a standard practice and should be done with each major rom or kernel install. This leak hasn't been put long enough for most of us to know what our expected battery life will be yet. Give it a few days for your phones to adjust.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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try disabling gps in the notifications, that worked for me, but once i turn gps on again, it will drive up to a high percentage.
And im not sure what to do. I need some advice because I just cant find the issue! This morning was the final straw, my phone was at 100% charged and all i did was take about a 3 hour nap woke up to an over heated phone and the battery at 10%. WTH?? I use cpu spy and juice defender and nothing. I barely have any apps other than a wellsfargo one and 3g watchdog. Im running [ROM]<=TASK650's ICS'd OUT! V5 right now and i just switched over from cm7 because i thought maybe that would've been the problem? I dont know if its a deep sleep issue because ill look over at it sometimes and the screen just turns on out of nowhere and ill have to press the sleep button for it to turn back off. It also like to randomly turn off as it please. AHH THE FRUSTRATION .
Anyway enough rant can someone help? Or at least give some advice on what I should try or do? Thanks.
Your screenshots are inconsistent with your stated behavior... Loss of 20-30%/hour and an overheated phone says the thing is stuck at 1200 MHz and full load - but your CPUSpy graph shows only 9% at 1200, and a total of maybe 40-50 minutes since reset.
Also the battery graph in your first shot has a major discontinuity... It drops from 100% to 10% instantly. I've seen glitches of 20-30% jumps at a time after a fuel gauge reset, but never anything like that.
So then what your saying is I should kill it with fire and then return it and grab another one? lol I dont know anyone else with this type of situation. Im not just one to go and ask a question because im too lazy to search. I swear i looked and googled EVERYWHERE for some type of solution but i just haven't found someone with this type of problem.
as Entropy mentioned, that jump in the first screenshot makes no sense. You should probably recalibrate the fuel gauge.
Looking at the 2nd screenshot, a lack of deep sleep seems to be the culprit. You'll need to track down what's keeping your phone awake. I've read something about exporting the wakelock log but perhaps there's already an app for that...
Also, clicking on the graph (in the first SS) will show you a more detailed burn down which might help isolate the issue.
Lastly, did you change kernels as well?
Im sorry im fairly new at this. It just has the kernel that the rom came with. I recalibrated the fuel gauge like you said and retook some screen shots that ill just leave here. It keeps over heating and Shutting off on me every half hour or so. On top of that The battery just drains in a mater of 3 to 4 hours. I think the problem is just the phone itself. Im going to try and put the original stock rom on it later this week when i have time (Finals are driving me crazy) and then Im going to try and send it back and get another one. I might need a usb jig thingy tho. Its very frustrating this phone isn't even a month old and like i said before i googled for a full hour and a half and I just couldnt find a solution to this.
mmmk this just happened.
That certainly doesn't look normal. When it takes those sharp dives is the phone rebooting? Also when you flashed your new ROM did you wipe all data in cwm first?
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I had a similar problem (phone got extremely hot) when i first flashed to UnNamed but after re-calibrating the fuel gauge a few times everything was all good.
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mmmk this just happened.
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Suggest running better battery stats from a full charge and when you get that instant drop go into bbs look at partial wake locks.
Also have you done any
oc/uc ?
Running ICScrewD ROM
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That certainly doesn't look normal. When it takes those sharp dives is the phone rebooting? Also when you flashed your new ROM did you wipe all data in cwm first?
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Yes it shuts off every half hour or so and when i realize it and turn it back on the battery is drained significantly and yes i wiped all the data in cwm.
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Suggest running better battery stats from a full charge and when you get that instant drop go into bbs look at partial wake locks.
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Ok Ill definitely give that a try the moment I have a chance and report back here the results. I haven't done any oc/uc either. Thank you guys for taking the time to help me figure this out.
I would try a CWM Backup. Then Factory Reset, Cache Wipe. Then install a fresh copy of Task v6. If that doesn't fix it, restore back to your backup you did.
I was having fun with undervolting myself (would crash my phone). Every battery pull I did, I lost 20-50% battery life. JUST turning the phone back on! Though in my case the phone would stick at this percentage for a long time, then when it caught up, eventually draining. I would assume the battery was not calibrated, but people keep telling me "this battery does not need calibration" (Whatever).
It seemed to fix itself for me though, after letting it drain down a bit more. I let it fully charge this time with the official wall charger. This was with Task & Siyah. Has not happened since.
I hope your battery works itself out!
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Yes it shuts off every half hour or so and when i realize it and turn it back on the battery is drained significantly and yes i wiped all the data in cwm.
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kk so I'd guess your battery really isn't that low, it's just reading low after those reboots. For whatever reason sometimes the phone will show a significant loss after a reboot, but really didn't lose that much. However something still isn't rite obviously. I'd suggest redownloading your ROM and clearing/wiping everything in CWM. And do a fresh install. Someone might be better able to help, but if I was getting random power downs that's probably what I'd try. (I might be wrong, but I don't see how wakelocks would be causing it to power down)
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Thanks for the input everyone. I just got back from class now and my phones dead no surprise there but Im gonna let it charge back up and ill repost some screen shots of cpu spy and betterbatterystats since i just got that running on the phone. Afterwards Im going to try to just wipe everything on cwm reinstall a rom and see what happens from there. I bought a usb jig that should be coming in by the end of the week just in case all else fails and i'll just send it to att and have them ship me a new one. Thanks for all the feedback you guys are awesome!
OH I forgot to mention I dont think the phone actually shuts off because I was talking on it for a bit but i was talking through my bluetooth headset. I went to check if i had a text message and the screen wouldn't power on but I was still able to talk on the phone WTF? Makes no sense to me.
Really starting to wonder if your CPU has voltages it can't handle...
... I just have some things I'd like a little assistance with if possible.
1. Because the battery has over double the capacity of the stock battery, I wasn't expecting even close to sensible battery reports from Android. However, I wasn't expecting it to last for a long time, drain at a rational rate, and then halt at 1% for 6 or so hours. I have no way of predicting how much time I have left when I reach that 1% mark, and it literally just shuts off the phone without warning, as if I just unplugged the battery. Is there any way to adjust anything so that It properly reports the battery charge value from 100-1%?
2. I have no idea how long to charge this phone. Obviously the stats of the stock battery are hardcoded into the OS; after the phone shuts off, I'll put it on to charge, it will enter the charge-only-mode (which is weird to me in itself, thought the custom bootstrap overwrote this?), and it will only take a couple hours to reach 100%. This is about how long it took for me to charge the stock battery. Anyway to have the phone properly display the current charge while in its charge only state? I'm afraid of not properly cycling the battery if I don't charge it long enough, or even worse, damaging the battery by charging too long. After it hits 100%, assuming I am correct in that it still needs to charge after reaching that mark, will the phone even accept more power from the charger? As silly as it might sound, that sorta made sense to me. If the phone is incorrectly measuring the battery at that point, shouldn't it cease to charge after reaching what it thinks/I] is a proper 100%?
3. If there is no way to fix the issue in #1, I read somewhere you can measure the voltage of a battery and know when the phone is fully charged or about to die based on that voltage? At least I think it was voltage.
I've calibrated, don't bother asking. That has never worked, even on stock; I'm convinced its a myth, but that's a discussion for another thread.
By the way, Eclipse ROM's battery life sucks. Anyone stating otherwise is misinformed. The best battery life I ever experienced was on stock 2.2, followed very closely by Liberty 3 ROM. I have no idea why Eclipse has such terrible battery drain, though I would be interested if anyone knows. I've gone through two phones, their respective batteries, and now my third battery, the monstrosity that is the 3200mah, so please don't bother trying to convince me that Eclipse has better battery than some alternatives. It sucks. I'll be downgrading back to 2.3.4 and flashing Liberty right after I finish writing this.
Thanks to anyone who can help!
Also, I've been following the Droid X2 bootloader status for like 6 months. Realistically, how close are we to being able to flash a new kernel? An I'm pretty sure we can't crack to bootloader anyways. I remember calculating the possible combinations of keys Motorola could have used; it was a massive number. In that case, how would hijacking the boot process allow us to use Cyanogen? If we can't crack the bootloader and then flash the CM kernel, wouldn't it just be a glorified version of Eclipse? I don't even like Eclipse. Lawl.
I'm done typing. My sexy computer comes tomorrow; crossfire 6990's here I come! Need to get to sleep so I can all-night-hardcore-no-life play BF3 with Shibby tomorrow. I hope someone on these forums knows who that is.
You need to boot into clockwork recovery. Go to advanced and hit clear battery stats. after that fully charge and discharge your battery 4 times and that should fix you up.
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Oh sorry. Didn't realize cw hasn't been released for your phone yet. Have you tried deleting the batterystats.bin file manually. I believe there is also an app for this on the market.
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I have the same battery that you do with this phone, although I don't use the phone anymore.
You can NOT make Android read the battery correctly. You are in the dark.
Calibrating will NOT, as you've already found out, fix battery reporting.
I used to gauge when it was going to die by looking at mV left. Around 3500mV is when it would die. Get Battery Indicator from market to find out mV.
Oh, and: 4.2V = 4200mV etc
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Oh sorry. Didn't realize cw hasn't been released for your phone yet. Have you tried deleting the batterystats.bin file manually. I believe there is also an app for this on the market.
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I appreciate the understanding you have of my situatition, for, clearly, you have thoroughly read what I wrote.
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I have the same battery that you do with this phone, although I don't use the phone anymore.
You can NOT make Android read the battery correctly. You are in the dark.
Calibrating will NOT, as you've already found out, fix battery reporting.
I used to gauge when it was going to die by looking at mV left. Around 3500mV is when it would die. Get Battery Indicator from market to find out mV.
Oh, and: 4.2V = 4200mV etc
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I figured as much. For a multi-billion dollar investment, you would think Google and its partners wouldn't overlook something so silly, not to mention locking our ****ing bootloader.
Anywho, I'll try out that app. Is 4.2V a full charge for the 3200?
Thanks!
This is a known issue with the droids. Some have had success with the batteryleft widget which can learn the full capacity of the battery.
Also not googles fault. This one is only Motorola's issue.
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hi
is it required to battery caliberate after flashing new rom?
and when ever i reboot my system either battery jumps from 10% to 30 or more
or becomes less than 10%..
if i should then which app should i use?
any guidnace
plz
TY
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
hi
thanks for your reply
plz suggest me best battery app with battery saving feature , suggestion on what we can do with remaining battery , expected full time charge , complete graph or battery usage history by apps?
paid or free , tell me best one
thank you
There's lots of battery apps on Google Play, there's no such thing as the best one, go have a look under the Tools section in Apps (you'll also find some under productivity). Stay away from apps like Juice Defender that claim to save you battery by doing things automatically which you can do yourself in two seconds, these have been proven time & again on XDA to use more juice than they save.
ivl try battery monitor
thank you
No probs ;-)
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No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
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Wouldn't that procedure above be considered calibrating the battery? LOL. J/K. Couldn't resist .
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actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
actually I cannot help with that. I don't use such a software and really don't believe in it. but, the fact is that I do not use so many apps. other fact is that surely there is some useful software that could help you with that task, i just do not use one and personally I'm not interested in it. I know that perhaps the best method is to freeze them with titanium but if you use these apps from time to time then it would become complicated and not worth the effort.
still I have few questions:
why would you like to stop them from working? do they drain your battery? if so then check your logs with bbs and find out which ones are draining, try to change their setting or get rid of them, or at least close only these ones. long time ago I was fighting with some apps that I do not use often and they start themselves from time to time. I didn't want to get rid of them, so before every night I was killing them one-by-one from applications menu (actually most of them didn't wake up until I ran them myself). finally, after many tests I got to the point that it doesn't make any difference. apps I was killing, even if running, didn't use any recourses, didn't produce wakelocks, they were just using some RAM. and if it is the reason of your concern then do not be worried - they may use as much RAM as they want - android will free RAM when it will need it.
now I do not kill any apps and by night I lose 0-2% of battery which is my only concern - what should we care more? CPU, RAM - let it work as long as it doesn't stop us from enjoying our phone and make a usage of it uncomfortable.
and if you're worried about packet data then you may limit it for each app using system menu in ICS.
ancilary said:
read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
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Thanks dude. I also have the similar problem. I have spent months on it without any improvement. Now I'm quite frustrated and not optimistic on the solution you have provided towards my issue, but your decription gives me a lot of clue.
But my problem is even more tricky, I would like to share it here so see if anyone have met it before, or if I need to start a new thread to deal with it:
The problem can be generally decribed as below:
1. When the battery is fully charged, unplug and consume the juice until the level reach around 30%, then the phone is shut down automatically; after I plugin the power and restart the phone, the battery level is displayed as 0%;
2. After charging for a while from 0% , restart the phone and you will see the battery level directly goes back to 50%, but still with very low voltage;
3. Changing with a new battery won't solve the issue -- though the new battery itself may also have problem(not sure if it is genuine), but I don't think a fake battery and an old battery should behave almost the same, so I don't think it is the battery's problem; criticize if I'm wrong
4. Re-flashing a new rom won't solve the issue either. I have tried different CM9 nightlies and now I'm using CM10 nightlies, none of them is immune to the problem;
5. Clear the battery state won't solve the problem. It is hard to say whether it improves the situation at least a tiny bit. I mean it may work somehow, e.g. My phone used to be shut down at 50% battery level and now it can last to 36%. But it never totally solve the problem once and for all, so I still don't trust this caliberation thing may work.
I hope I have clearly stated my issue. I'm so at the end of my patience, this little bastard have been always torturing me You guys are the last I can count on I really hope I came here earlier so as not to have wasted so much time.
Hey guys.
It seems like almost everyone with battery drain issues has Android OS at the top of their battery stats.
I just want to share my experiences with this particular Bug.
Maybe it will help anyone. Please share if it also helped with your problem.
I had the Android OS bug since I dropped my phone a few months ago and had the screen replaced. The guy who replaced it (official Vodafone shop employee) said that they didn't just replace the screen and that something else was also damaged (they didn't say what) so they also replaced the rest. Well, that's when the Android OS problems started. I tried many ROMs and many Kernels. Sometimes the problem went away for an hour or so, but it always came back.
Then I finally decided to use BetterBatteryStats two days ago (I really should have done this earlier, I know...). I came to the conclusion that I had some sort of the well-known "fuel_alerted" bug, since fuel_alerted was the service that kept my phone from going into Deep Sleep.
This bug should have been fixed long ago but for me it somehow still persists, even on stock JB.
It didn't only drain a lot of battery (I had 8-10h maximum without doing much), it also used up a lot of CPU time, effectively slowing down the whole system to the point that I wasn't able to use Spotify on my phone without severe stuttering.
Well. I found a solution to the fuel_alerted bug.
The procedure is: turning airplane mode on, shutting phone off, taking out battery, putting it back in after a few minutes, turning phone back on.
This solved the problem. No more Android OS draining the power. Phone goes into Deep Sleep again. Only 2% drain after an hour. Spotify runs smoothly again. Yeah!
BUT well... It seems like the problem comes back randomly for me, today I had to replace the battery 5 times...
Now I am trying to strictly follow another "rule" to keep the problem from coming back: Always waking and unlocking the phone before plugging it in or out of power. I never did this before so it could have been the cause of the bug. Now let's see how long it stays bug-free.
If it still doesn't help, I guess I have to conclude it's some kind of hardware problem, which could only be solved by Samsung...
EDIT: Nope. Problem still there. So not really a fix, but maybe still helpful for somebody.
Okay, what ROM are you on?
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Okay, what ROM are you on?
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It's the up-to-date stock Samsung ROM I guess. See attachment for infos.
Damn, it seems like the problem just came back without me doing much. I only checked BetterBatteryStats every 30 minutes or so and recieved 1 SMS just a minute ago. Seems like the bug started 20 minutes ago, when battery was around 78%. Now it's draining battery like hell again, Spotify stutters, Deep Sleep won't work...
Guess I'll have to pull the battery again.
Since I'm pretty new to all this: What kind of information would be useful to narrow down the source of the problem?
I can provide my BetterBatteryStats screenshots and logcat/dmesg files as well as my Android Battery Stats screenshots.
Is there anything else I could post?
Yeah, screen shots of partial and kernel wakelocks.
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I just rebooted the phone, waited for a few minutes and took screenshots.
Here they are.
Okay, this is what you need to do now, drain it empty, charge it (while phone off) till 100 %. Remove the battery, wait for 90 sec or so, put it back and power on.
It's a placebo, but it might work.
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Okay, I will try and do the charging overnight. Thanks!
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Okay, I will try and do the charging overnight. Thanks!
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Good luck man.
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I don't know much about kernel and ROM stuff, but I was just wondering...
As far as I understand, the fuel_alerted thing turns on if the battery charge goes below a certain threshold. The old bug with it was that, when recharging, the fuel_alerted thing would sometimes still stay on, even if battery charge is no longer critical.
Could it somehow be possible that this threshold is not set to 15% for me, but something around 80% due to some horrible bug?
This would explain why it suddenly turned on at around 80% when everything was fine before.
We're trying to adjust your fuel gauge and sort of calibrating your battery.
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Okay, I did exactly what you recommended.
Everything went well for about 2.5 hours.
Then the fuel_alerted process began again, but this time only for a short while apparently.
It took about 5 minutes kernel wakelock time in a 30 minutes measurement.
Way less than usual and when I check now, it's no longer active.
So. The problem might still be there, or it might not.
Do you recommend going through a few more recharge cycles to get the gauge set properly or do you think this won't make it better?
By the way, thanks for your quick responses!
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Okay, I did exactly what you recommended.
Everything went well for about 2.5 hours.
Then the fuel_alerted process began again, but this time only for a short while apparently.
It took about 5 minutes kernel wakelock time in a 30 minutes measurement.
Way less than usual and when I check now, it's no longer active.
So. The problem might still be there, or it might not.
Do you recommend going through a few more recharge cycles to get the gauge set properly or do you think this won't make it better?
By the way, thanks for your quick responses!
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Not really.
Now, when it gets to 15% or so plug it in (while phone ON), get battery calibration from play store.
Run the app, when it gets to 100 % hit calibrate. Plug off the device. Turn off.
Take out the battery for 90 sec again, reinsert it and power it on.
That calibration app is another placebo but as I said before, placebos sometimes work.
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Since the battery calibration app requires Root access, I flashed a Dorimanx kernel a few hours ago. Then I did a factory reset and the battery-removal thing. 5 hours have passed now without the bug, 3h of which were without wireless access (maybe it correlates with that).
I'll now let the battery (slowly) drain below 15% and then recharge it with phone on overnight. I will use the battery calibration tomorrow and will inform you about the results later.
Thanks man!
Good to know
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I did the battery calibration. Bug is still there, no changes
Post you battery details and a couple of BBS screens.
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Okay, here are some screenshots.
From the graph you can clearly see when the bug started.
Is it normal to have >26 kworker processes running?
Something else that concerns me: >2h without or with unknown signal. The whole day I was in an inner city area where the signal should be good...
Can you conclude anything from the screenshots?
I will now try something which I also should have tried earlier
I have a spare battery (not original samsung, less capacity) which I just put into the phone.
I'll let it fully charge with phone off and then I will try if the problem persists even with the other battery.
If it doesn't, the problem might come from the battery itself...
Is this a good idea?
No it's not.
You gotta post detailed info there, we can only guess what's draining your battery.
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Okay... I posted the screenshots you asked for...
What more should I post?