And im not sure what to do. I need some advice because I just cant find the issue! This morning was the final straw, my phone was at 100% charged and all i did was take about a 3 hour nap woke up to an over heated phone and the battery at 10%. WTH?? I use cpu spy and juice defender and nothing. I barely have any apps other than a wellsfargo one and 3g watchdog. Im running [ROM]<=TASK650's ICS'd OUT! V5 right now and i just switched over from cm7 because i thought maybe that would've been the problem? I dont know if its a deep sleep issue because ill look over at it sometimes and the screen just turns on out of nowhere and ill have to press the sleep button for it to turn back off. It also like to randomly turn off as it please. AHH THE FRUSTRATION .
Anyway enough rant can someone help? Or at least give some advice on what I should try or do? Thanks.
Your screenshots are inconsistent with your stated behavior... Loss of 20-30%/hour and an overheated phone says the thing is stuck at 1200 MHz and full load - but your CPUSpy graph shows only 9% at 1200, and a total of maybe 40-50 minutes since reset.
Also the battery graph in your first shot has a major discontinuity... It drops from 100% to 10% instantly. I've seen glitches of 20-30% jumps at a time after a fuel gauge reset, but never anything like that.
So then what your saying is I should kill it with fire and then return it and grab another one? lol I dont know anyone else with this type of situation. Im not just one to go and ask a question because im too lazy to search. I swear i looked and googled EVERYWHERE for some type of solution but i just haven't found someone with this type of problem.
as Entropy mentioned, that jump in the first screenshot makes no sense. You should probably recalibrate the fuel gauge.
Looking at the 2nd screenshot, a lack of deep sleep seems to be the culprit. You'll need to track down what's keeping your phone awake. I've read something about exporting the wakelock log but perhaps there's already an app for that...
Also, clicking on the graph (in the first SS) will show you a more detailed burn down which might help isolate the issue.
Lastly, did you change kernels as well?
Im sorry im fairly new at this. It just has the kernel that the rom came with. I recalibrated the fuel gauge like you said and retook some screen shots that ill just leave here. It keeps over heating and Shutting off on me every half hour or so. On top of that The battery just drains in a mater of 3 to 4 hours. I think the problem is just the phone itself. Im going to try and put the original stock rom on it later this week when i have time (Finals are driving me crazy) and then Im going to try and send it back and get another one. I might need a usb jig thingy tho. Its very frustrating this phone isn't even a month old and like i said before i googled for a full hour and a half and I just couldnt find a solution to this.
mmmk this just happened.
That certainly doesn't look normal. When it takes those sharp dives is the phone rebooting? Also when you flashed your new ROM did you wipe all data in cwm first?
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I had a similar problem (phone got extremely hot) when i first flashed to UnNamed but after re-calibrating the fuel gauge a few times everything was all good.
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mmmk this just happened.
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Suggest running better battery stats from a full charge and when you get that instant drop go into bbs look at partial wake locks.
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Running ICScrewD ROM
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That certainly doesn't look normal. When it takes those sharp dives is the phone rebooting? Also when you flashed your new ROM did you wipe all data in cwm first?
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Yes it shuts off every half hour or so and when i realize it and turn it back on the battery is drained significantly and yes i wiped all the data in cwm.
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Ok Ill definitely give that a try the moment I have a chance and report back here the results. I haven't done any oc/uc either. Thank you guys for taking the time to help me figure this out.
I would try a CWM Backup. Then Factory Reset, Cache Wipe. Then install a fresh copy of Task v6. If that doesn't fix it, restore back to your backup you did.
I was having fun with undervolting myself (would crash my phone). Every battery pull I did, I lost 20-50% battery life. JUST turning the phone back on! Though in my case the phone would stick at this percentage for a long time, then when it caught up, eventually draining. I would assume the battery was not calibrated, but people keep telling me "this battery does not need calibration" (Whatever).
It seemed to fix itself for me though, after letting it drain down a bit more. I let it fully charge this time with the official wall charger. This was with Task & Siyah. Has not happened since.
I hope your battery works itself out!
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Yes it shuts off every half hour or so and when i realize it and turn it back on the battery is drained significantly and yes i wiped all the data in cwm.
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kk so I'd guess your battery really isn't that low, it's just reading low after those reboots. For whatever reason sometimes the phone will show a significant loss after a reboot, but really didn't lose that much. However something still isn't rite obviously. I'd suggest redownloading your ROM and clearing/wiping everything in CWM. And do a fresh install. Someone might be better able to help, but if I was getting random power downs that's probably what I'd try. (I might be wrong, but I don't see how wakelocks would be causing it to power down)
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Thanks for the input everyone. I just got back from class now and my phones dead no surprise there but Im gonna let it charge back up and ill repost some screen shots of cpu spy and betterbatterystats since i just got that running on the phone. Afterwards Im going to try to just wipe everything on cwm reinstall a rom and see what happens from there. I bought a usb jig that should be coming in by the end of the week just in case all else fails and i'll just send it to att and have them ship me a new one. Thanks for all the feedback you guys are awesome!
OH I forgot to mention I dont think the phone actually shuts off because I was talking on it for a bit but i was talking through my bluetooth headset. I went to check if i had a text message and the screen wouldn't power on but I was still able to talk on the phone WTF? Makes no sense to me.
Really starting to wonder if your CPU has voltages it can't handle...
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***NOTICE***
The ROM Manager version of CWM does NOT wipe battery stats properly, as with many other things. What you need is jt1134's version of CWM that is all happy and works and stuff.
You can find his happy CWM here. And here. And also here.
And here.
Big thanks to LegionTHEFecalExcretion for the heads up on that.
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NOTE: On current DL30 and EB01 ROMs, you will not see battery life like you did on DL09 with undervolted kernels. There are NO undervolted kernels as of yet, everything kernel wise with Froyo ROMs in very much stock. These steps will improve your battery life in comparison to when you flashed Froyo, but you are not going to see spectacular changes in battery life up to what you were getting with undervolted DL09, etc. It's just not possible until we get undervolted kernels and Froyo matures for our device, development wise.
Hi everyone, I've been seeing a lot of threads about bad battery life, whether switching to Kaoscinate, Vanilla, or DL30. Stop it! Just kidding. There is a simple process everyone should follow when switching between different enough ROMs, like AOSP, CM6 and TW Eclair and Froyo. This is how you retrain your battery.
1. Charge your battery to 100% (when it gets there, let it SIT there, your phone is NOT reporting correctly).
2. Reboot to Recovery and Advanced -> Wipe Battery Stats.
3. Reboot, and use your phone until it is VERY low (5-10%, you can let it die if you want).
4. Charge your phone back to 100%
5. (Optional) Power down, then power on phone. (Thanks goes to BrwnSuperman for this suggestion, give it a try!)
Your battery issues should be solved. This needs to be done every once in a while, especially when switching between different ROMs and OS versions.
User dalrym05 posted this alternate method for retraining the battery on page 4 as well, so I thought I would share it here in the OP. I'm posting this as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK method, as I have not tested it, and am not quite sure what the *228 steps for it actually accomplish and have to do with retraining the OS battery reporting, so I'm leaving it quoted to dalrym05 for the time being.
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Here were my steps to better battery.
1.*228 option 1
2.*228 option 2
3. Run battery completely dead to 0%
4. Plug in and boot immediately into cwm
5. Wipe battery stats and dalvik cache
6. Reboot and let charge fully before unplugging
7. Completely discharge again and fully charge again.
After this you should notice a very nice increase in battery as I did. My battery life is back up to par with eclair.
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NOTE: I did edit his post to make it a little more clear. I'm slightly anal retentive that way.
HybridByNature had an excellent suggestion on page 4. If people have good tips and tricks for maintaining good battery life, and they are easily reproducible, then I will gladly add them to the OP here. What works for you?
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This might also be a good place to add tips & tricks to extending battery life.
IE
-Close programs that you aren't using.
-Don't leave your camera or navigation running in the background.
-Turn off WiFi & GPS etc when you aren't using them.
-Don't run your screen at full brightness if you can help it.
-Figure out what uses more battery life than other things:
Pandora, internet browsing, downloading, camera/camcorder, Angry Birds etc.
If you are rooted, try and narrow it down to the best kernel/theme for your situation. I've found that I have better battery with a non-voodoo kernel but the performance increase is worth it so that's a trade-off that I make.
Let's hear from our readers: What is working for you?
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Would not surprise me if this is all it is. I have turned my phone off at 5% for an hour and turned it back on without charging and then it showed 45%. I know when batteries are low letting them sit a little bit can help, but not that much.
It is just being reported inaccurately by the OS.
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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Yes, but not as a thread, it gets posted in everyone else's "Why does my battery life suck ass" threads, so I made this so maybe people would see it and try it before posting another useless question thread in Development.
Definitely works though. Did it yesterday. Good post. It has been posted in other threads ... but I think we all know people don't read through everything very often.
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I have the battery charger and 3 batteries, I always run my battery low and leave it in the charger for a day.
I did this last night and it didn't work too well for me.
Also, when I go to wipe battery stats in the recovery, it doesn't tell me if it wiped or not, just goes back to the advanced menu.
And also, should I be concerned that when I cold boot into the recovery, it doesn't appear to be CWM? It says Android recovery...I know I have CWM recovery installed.
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Wow same here..I just took mine off the charger bout 10 minutes ago and it's at 95% now. I guess I'm gonna let the battery run completely dead and charge it and see what happens.
I did something similar. I charged to 100% while it was on, removed from charger then powered off. When phone was off I plugged charger back in and waited til it was at 100% then unplugged again and powered on. Waited until phone was completely on then unplugged again and connected to charger. Waited til it was at 100% and while still plugged in at 100% booted into recovery and wiped battery stats. Then rebooted phone into OS and unplugged. I had tried this previously with DL09 and it helped a little. Last night I wanted to see how my battery would drain after doing this. With WiFi on and I got about 10 emails during the night, from 8:30pm to 6:00am I lost only 13%!!! Previously I would have lost from 35 to 40%. ymmv
jv
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Yeah looks like I'll be going back to DL09.
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out too. It seems to have solved itself. Right now it is showing 47% usage. Sorry I couldn't help.
Jv
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This is a proven technique, and it takes patience. Seeing the battery drop from 100% down to 95 or 96% after unplugging is normal behavior. I've done this already. Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 1% battery. If you're too impatient to take the time to do this, that's your loss. You'll see the battery life "improve" over the course of a few days as the reporting gets more and more accurate.
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I agree with supplysidejesus. This is a standard practice and should be done with each major rom or kernel install. This leak hasn't been put long enough for most of us to know what our expected battery life will be yet. Give it a few days for your phones to adjust.
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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try disabling gps in the notifications, that worked for me, but once i turn gps on again, it will drive up to a high percentage.
Regardless of any calibration method i try, i can never get an accurate battery reading. (Before i continue, ill point out that every app ive used to check my battery health has said "good")
Ive tried calibrating with/without the calibration app. Ive tried just deleting the batterystats via rootexplorer. ive tried calibrating before/after cycling. nothing seems to work.
the reason i know its not working, is because i will calibrate/cycle. lets say ill start a day with 100%. ill unplug my phone, leave for work, and use my phone moderately to feel out the battery drain. then at some point, ill plug it into my charger at work......just now, for example, after three hours of use my phone went from 100%-71%....i went to charge it, and once i plugged it in my percentage display changed from 71% to 63%!!! my percentage will constantly jump up and down throughout the day when i plug/unplug my phone.
anyone else experience this?
PS - its not ROM or kernel, its been happening to me for the last 2-3 months...ive flashed several roms/kernels in that timespan, and have ODINed at least once.
PPS - Ill also add that when i unplug my phone to start my day (after its been charging all night), it will stay at 100% for about 30-45min, at which point it will then start draining on an average of 1%/10min. i feel this may have something to do with it.....does it have something to do with me calibrating at too high of a voltage??
Well as for your inaccurate battery readings, i would suggest that you to odin back to stock and. Leave the phone to charge for 4hours(the time my phone takes to charge from 0-100%)then use the battery calibration app or wipe battery stats via cwm. And as for the draining it might be corrected after you calibrate it.
I know this coz I have experienced this in the past and i'd lose around 1% every 20-25mins now.
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Well as for your inaccurate battery readings, i would suggest that you to odin back to stock and then use the battery calibration app or wipe battery stats via cwm. And as for the draining it might be corrected after you calibrate it.
I know this coz I have experienced this in the past and i'd lose around 1% every 20-25mins now.
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please read OP
UPDATE: i just rebooted my phone at 56%....it booted up and it displayed 24%......wtf is this
You said you've ODIN'd like once.... dude, if you aren't going to be cool with suggestions, esp the most obvious ones, not sure what it is you expect from us.
Should I hit thanks? JK
Call T-Mo and tell them and get a new battery.... they WILL give you one.
the best way to calibrate ur phone and its worked perfect for me. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it and as soon as unplug it go to sgs tools and run apply script and inside apply script there is delete battery stats. Click on that and it will take less then 10 sec and ur battery will be running great. Now this works great on my phone i hope it works on urs nicely.
At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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You said you've ODIN'd like once.... dude, if you aren't going to be cool with suggestions, esp the most obvious ones, not sure what it is you expect from us.
Should I hit thanks? JK
Call T-Mo and tell them and get a new battery.... they WILL give you one.
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So if i clearly state in the OP that it was happening to me before and after ive ODINed, and someone says you should ODIN...thats not a lazy suggestion?
or if someone says to try calibrating, when I stated several times in the OP that ive tried multiple calibration methods...thats not a lazy suggestion?
What i expect is if ive pointed out that ive already taken troubleshooting steps, then dont suggest those troubleshooting steps. no one is forcing a response, so if you dont know, simply dont answer. dont just read the title, skim the post, and give programmed suggestions.
theres absolutely nothing wrong with trying to seek out answers other than the conventional ones. ODIN and reflash are the laziest responses......granted, they will often fix problems, but there may be other ways to solve certain issues.
The goal of my OP was to see if anyone else had experienced it, and if someone responded affirmatively, i would ask them about their calibration methods and we could brainstorm. I would much rather seek out problem-solving knowledge before resorting to ODIN/reflash/new battery/new device...which teach nothing.
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the best way to calibrate ur phone and its worked perfect for me. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it and as soon as unplug it go to sgs tools and run apply script and inside apply script there is delete battery stats. Click on that and it will take less then 10 sec and ur battery will be running great. Now this works great on my phone i hope it works on urs nicely.
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This is typically the method i use. i usually let it charge for an hour or so beyond when it reaches 100%, just to ensure i have a full charge. this has not worked for me. i also take it a step further and let my phone discharge all the way until it dies, let it charge overnight when powered off, then ill wipe the battery stats first thing when i wake up.
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At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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i will definitely read this...this is something ive always been very curious about
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At your PPS: This is completely normal and expected battery behaviour. It SHOULD happen. Here is why
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
Please read this article fully to understand why it happens and why it SHOULD happen. As for your plug/unplug deviations...I have seen those but it has rarely been more than 2-3% difference which is around the normal range. It sounds like a bad calibration issue to me but then again I can't be sure, especially if you said you have done a calibration correctly. You can try a new battery like the poster above me suggests.
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this was an extremely informative read. it doesnt shed light on all of my problems...but it definitely explains the longer battery life upon unplugging in the morning. my only question is how am i getting that extra juice when im not actually "bump charging"...i just plug it in when i go to bed, and unplug it when i wake up.....maybe my phone doesnt stop sucking in a charge the moment it hits 100%?
i agree with what he says about not paying too much attention to your battery.....but when its bouncing up and down by 20% increments, thats cause for concern haha. im going to calibrate one more time tonight, and i i get similar results i will swap batteries with another vibrant user.
do you guys suggest deep cycling, before or after wiping battery stats? (or should i just wipe stats at a full charge, and not deep cycle at all) >>> there seems to be different opinions on deep cycling throughout XDA
I have had a similar issue. After flashing Roms, plyugging and unplugging it was jumping by a good 10-15%. This turned out to be a simple bad calibration. Normal jumping should be up to 2%, more than that usually indicates bad calibration. Granted, normally nowdays, mine does not jump at all.
I recommend cycling it fully empty. That means, go ahead and drain to 0. Then let it shut off. Then turn it on again. Keep turning it on till it STOPs being able to turn on. Then charge it completely. Don't charge overnight as that will charge to 90-95% as the article suggested. Charge it while you're awake so you see when it hits 100%. It's even preffered if you charged it while the phone is off. After it hits 100%, give it another hour on the charger. You can even bump charge to ensure it hits full charge. To bump charge, after it's full, disconnect and reconnect the charger every 20 minutes for that last hour you're charging. Then unplug it, boot into recovery using the 3 buttons. Wipe the battery stats from there. Boot normally into your ROM. See if it is still jumping by 20%. Worst case scenario should be a 5% jump. Let us know what happens.
^ See, there is my confusion... there is a great example of how to calibrate, but the OP seems to get in a tiffy for offering up a suggestion he has done (calibrating). I'd also be cautious about the bump charging as that will really hurt the battery. I'm not one to try and get something for free, but why not just get a new battery?
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^ See, there is my confusion... there is a great example of how to calibrate, but the OP seems to get in a tiffy for offering up a suggestion he has done (calibrating). I'd also be cautious about the bump charging as that will really hurt the battery. I'm not one to try and get something for free, but why not just get a new battery?
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I support the new battery notion too. It's FREE.
Drain your phone til its dead.... charge it up full.... run a battery calibration app on the market and let it die fully again then charge to 100 percent one last time... good to go!
You might even try using a differnet battery
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Regardless of any calibration method i try, i can never get an accurate battery reading. (Before i continue, ill point out that every app ive used to check my battery health has said "good")
Ive tried calibrating with/without the calibration app. Ive tried just deleting the batterystats via rootexplorer. ive tried calibrating before/after cycling. nothing seems to work.
the reason i know its not working, is because i will calibrate/cycle. lets say ill start a day with 100%. ill unplug my phone, leave for work, and use my phone moderately to feel out the battery drain. then at some point, ill plug it into my charger at work......just now, for example, after three hours of use my phone went from 100%-71%....i went to charge it, and once i plugged it in my percentage display changed from 71% to 63%!!! my percentage will constantly jump up and down throughout the day when i plug/unplug my phone.
anyone else experience this?
Topshelf, I have run into these problems, There are a couple of things that cause the battery to be wonky.
1st Samsung has the battery set not to 100% but actually less (95-98%) so when it is charged and reads 100% as soon as you unplug you get a immediate reading of 95-98% (nice huh?)
The dev/mods, and others have tried to rectify this. No one has found an exact fix for this. On thing I have found that does help is to charge to 100% then unplug and then plug into the computer and recharge back to 100% (the lower milliamp off the computer seems to allow you to get to a higher percentage). Then calibrate. Now when you do that the battery calibration/battery widget/and phone All will read more close (for me +/-3%). This is one of the issues you raised.
The other is the battery drain, with some of the custom roms the gallery seems to one of the culprits, mms sometimes stays on with others and some others that are in TSR but instead of being asleep they are taking resources.
I have used systems panel to trouble shoot and that has helped me. I think you may want to ask Explodingboy70, Roman or whitehawkx, they know more on this and maybe can help.
Hope you get it solved......... stay with it you will........... I did.........
PS the mv setting for the battery is supposed to be 4200mv mine never gets above 4196mv
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Latest SiyahKernel with stock rooted ICS 4.0.3.
Now, this has happened twice in the last week. I unplug the phone from my charger and place it under my pillow for the alarm to wake me up, and go to sleep. I disable both data and wifi so that twitter won't update and wake me up prematurely. Then, I oversleep about two hours, and what wakes me up is the phone that's EXTREMELY hot. The alarm doesn't go off and the battery is completely drained.
I have no idea what drained the battery and why the phone was that hot (I couldn't hold the phone for more than two seconds before I started experiencing pain). I've tried searching, but there were no topics like this one. So does anyone know how I can fix this?
~November
http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/how-to-resolve-poor-battery-life-battery-issues-on-android
Thanks for the answer, but even after doing everything there I have the same problem.
A few days ago, I was able to "intercept" the process.
I had just used the phone, and put it away. Then after no more than ten minutes, I noticed it getting extremely hot. When I tried unlocking the screen, the phone had frozen, so I had to pull out the battery to turn it off. When I put the battery back in again and turned it on, the battery level was down from around 80% to around 60%. The battery graph showed like vertical drop, so it was clear that it had happened within those 10 minutes.
Is there really noone who has had this problem before?
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Latest SiyahKernel with stock rooted ICS 4.0.3.
Now, this has happened twice in the last week. I unplug the phone from my charger and place it under my pillow for the alarm to wake me up, and go to sleep. I disable both data and wifi so that twitter won't update and wake me up prematurely. Then, I oversleep about two hours, and what wakes me up is the phone that's EXTREMELY hot. The alarm doesn't go off and the battery is completely drained.
I have no idea what drained the battery and why the phone was that hot (I couldn't hold the phone for more than two seconds before I started experiencing pain). I've tried searching, but there were no topics like this one. So does anyone know how I can fix this?
~November
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Try N.E.A.K ICS kernel. I had some really good results with aokp rom. It's compatible with Samsung rom as well I think. Check it out
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I'd be more worried about it setting my pillow alight
Steps.you could try:
- Wipe all data (Optional maybe an app conflicting with something)
- Update kernel or change rom to CM9 or any other stock
- If none of those work try an different battery
*I believe its an well wakelock had this when i was using siyah 3.1 Rc 1-5*
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I had roughly the same problem. I did a full wipe and installed a custom from and changed the kernel... everything works perfect then. One of my friends finds taking his battery out every few days works best. Try both and see what results you get.
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I would have to guess that it's either the kernel or the battery calibration. Are you using a third party battery? I think with the original samsung batteries, this must not be as much of a problem (I have never owned an original samsung battery for my S2, sadly). I know that with my fake Chinese super-cheap "2150mah" battery, which somehow is small enough to fit in the original cover which makes me think it's more like 1350mah, I have gotten horrible battery drain problems for basically no reason. But, after following the thread where it was explained to charge to 100% and then take the battery out, wait three minutes, and put it back in, I've had the phone stay at 100% for over four hours, with wifi, syncing, and all that turned on.
I should mention that I sometimes also have had this problem where it seems to be charged, then for some reason it drops to 20%.
If your battery is third party, make sure you calibrate it. I've also noticed that the more roms I flash, the worse my battery life is, so I'm trying to resist the temptation of flashing something new every twenty minutes.
Good luck.
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Use it.
You could try downloading Better Battery Stats and hope to identify the wakelock or app that's draining the battery. If it's not either of those and you haven't always had an issue with it under your pillow, I'd say it's time to try a wipe and new rom and if the problem persists even after that...hardware problem.
Have you been able to leave it under the pillow previously? Part of me is wondering if the overheating itself is affecting the battery and causing it to degrade though I doubt it should happen so quickly and in such an odd fashion as you're experiencing.
After a bit more tinkering and testing, I'm almost 100% certain that it's the kernel, as it was the only thing "constant" in my testing. I reflashed over and over. I also think it has something to do with the wifi, since when wifi's off, my phone is fine and doesn't get touched by the described bug. So right now, I'm waiting for SiyahKernel 3.1 to be released while keeping wifi off.
On the changelog for RC6, it says that the "battery drain issue" is fixed, and on the changelog for 3.1, it says "new wifi drivers", so I'm assuming it'll be ok once the 3.1 is released. Thanks for all your replies and help.
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After a bit more tinkering and testing, I'm almost 100% certain that it's the kernel, as it was the only thing "constant" in my testing. I reflashed over and over. I also think it has something to do with the wifi, since when wifi's off, my phone is fine and doesn't get touched by the described bug. So right now, I'm waiting for SiyahKernel 3.1 to be released while keeping wifi off.
On the changelog for RC6, it says that the "battery drain issue" is fixed, and on the changelog for 3.1, it says "new wifi drivers", so I'm assuming it'll be ok once the 3.1 is released. Thanks for all your replies and help.
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I had best results with Siyah RC6. You could check results on my thread and use as reference if you want. Link on my. Sig.
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Hey guys.
It seems like almost everyone with battery drain issues has Android OS at the top of their battery stats.
I just want to share my experiences with this particular Bug.
Maybe it will help anyone. Please share if it also helped with your problem.
I had the Android OS bug since I dropped my phone a few months ago and had the screen replaced. The guy who replaced it (official Vodafone shop employee) said that they didn't just replace the screen and that something else was also damaged (they didn't say what) so they also replaced the rest. Well, that's when the Android OS problems started. I tried many ROMs and many Kernels. Sometimes the problem went away for an hour or so, but it always came back.
Then I finally decided to use BetterBatteryStats two days ago (I really should have done this earlier, I know...). I came to the conclusion that I had some sort of the well-known "fuel_alerted" bug, since fuel_alerted was the service that kept my phone from going into Deep Sleep.
This bug should have been fixed long ago but for me it somehow still persists, even on stock JB.
It didn't only drain a lot of battery (I had 8-10h maximum without doing much), it also used up a lot of CPU time, effectively slowing down the whole system to the point that I wasn't able to use Spotify on my phone without severe stuttering.
Well. I found a solution to the fuel_alerted bug.
The procedure is: turning airplane mode on, shutting phone off, taking out battery, putting it back in after a few minutes, turning phone back on.
This solved the problem. No more Android OS draining the power. Phone goes into Deep Sleep again. Only 2% drain after an hour. Spotify runs smoothly again. Yeah!
BUT well... It seems like the problem comes back randomly for me, today I had to replace the battery 5 times...
Now I am trying to strictly follow another "rule" to keep the problem from coming back: Always waking and unlocking the phone before plugging it in or out of power. I never did this before so it could have been the cause of the bug. Now let's see how long it stays bug-free.
If it still doesn't help, I guess I have to conclude it's some kind of hardware problem, which could only be solved by Samsung...
EDIT: Nope. Problem still there. So not really a fix, but maybe still helpful for somebody.
Okay, what ROM are you on?
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Okay, what ROM are you on?
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It's the up-to-date stock Samsung ROM I guess. See attachment for infos.
Damn, it seems like the problem just came back without me doing much. I only checked BetterBatteryStats every 30 minutes or so and recieved 1 SMS just a minute ago. Seems like the bug started 20 minutes ago, when battery was around 78%. Now it's draining battery like hell again, Spotify stutters, Deep Sleep won't work...
Guess I'll have to pull the battery again.
Since I'm pretty new to all this: What kind of information would be useful to narrow down the source of the problem?
I can provide my BetterBatteryStats screenshots and logcat/dmesg files as well as my Android Battery Stats screenshots.
Is there anything else I could post?
Yeah, screen shots of partial and kernel wakelocks.
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I just rebooted the phone, waited for a few minutes and took screenshots.
Here they are.
Okay, this is what you need to do now, drain it empty, charge it (while phone off) till 100 %. Remove the battery, wait for 90 sec or so, put it back and power on.
It's a placebo, but it might work.
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Okay, I will try and do the charging overnight. Thanks!
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Okay, I will try and do the charging overnight. Thanks!
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Good luck man.
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I don't know much about kernel and ROM stuff, but I was just wondering...
As far as I understand, the fuel_alerted thing turns on if the battery charge goes below a certain threshold. The old bug with it was that, when recharging, the fuel_alerted thing would sometimes still stay on, even if battery charge is no longer critical.
Could it somehow be possible that this threshold is not set to 15% for me, but something around 80% due to some horrible bug?
This would explain why it suddenly turned on at around 80% when everything was fine before.
We're trying to adjust your fuel gauge and sort of calibrating your battery.
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Okay, I did exactly what you recommended.
Everything went well for about 2.5 hours.
Then the fuel_alerted process began again, but this time only for a short while apparently.
It took about 5 minutes kernel wakelock time in a 30 minutes measurement.
Way less than usual and when I check now, it's no longer active.
So. The problem might still be there, or it might not.
Do you recommend going through a few more recharge cycles to get the gauge set properly or do you think this won't make it better?
By the way, thanks for your quick responses!
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Okay, I did exactly what you recommended.
Everything went well for about 2.5 hours.
Then the fuel_alerted process began again, but this time only for a short while apparently.
It took about 5 minutes kernel wakelock time in a 30 minutes measurement.
Way less than usual and when I check now, it's no longer active.
So. The problem might still be there, or it might not.
Do you recommend going through a few more recharge cycles to get the gauge set properly or do you think this won't make it better?
By the way, thanks for your quick responses!
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Not really.
Now, when it gets to 15% or so plug it in (while phone ON), get battery calibration from play store.
Run the app, when it gets to 100 % hit calibrate. Plug off the device. Turn off.
Take out the battery for 90 sec again, reinsert it and power it on.
That calibration app is another placebo but as I said before, placebos sometimes work.
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Since the battery calibration app requires Root access, I flashed a Dorimanx kernel a few hours ago. Then I did a factory reset and the battery-removal thing. 5 hours have passed now without the bug, 3h of which were without wireless access (maybe it correlates with that).
I'll now let the battery (slowly) drain below 15% and then recharge it with phone on overnight. I will use the battery calibration tomorrow and will inform you about the results later.
Thanks man!
Good to know
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I did the battery calibration. Bug is still there, no changes
Post you battery details and a couple of BBS screens.
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Okay, here are some screenshots.
From the graph you can clearly see when the bug started.
Is it normal to have >26 kworker processes running?
Something else that concerns me: >2h without or with unknown signal. The whole day I was in an inner city area where the signal should be good...
Can you conclude anything from the screenshots?
I will now try something which I also should have tried earlier
I have a spare battery (not original samsung, less capacity) which I just put into the phone.
I'll let it fully charge with phone off and then I will try if the problem persists even with the other battery.
If it doesn't, the problem might come from the battery itself...
Is this a good idea?
No it's not.
You gotta post detailed info there, we can only guess what's draining your battery.
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Okay... I posted the screenshots you asked for...
What more should I post?
Hey, I've been using stock 4.1.2+ExperiencedKernel for a long time, it always worked great, but a few days ago I installed an icon pack for KKLauncher, and since then my battery consumption got really bad, around 15-20% per hour when the display is off! I've tried deleting the icon pack, but it's the same, I'm even checking BetterBatteryStats for details, but it doesn't show anything suspicious, although I'm using the app for the first time, so maybe I overlooked something. I have also reflashed the rom+kernel with full wipe, but no luck. Can anyone tell me what can cause this mess, or what should I upload from BetterBatteryStats for someone to check the problem? Thanks in advance.
btw it goes to deep sleep well, so it's not an app that wakes it up constantly (I use greenify too). also the phone itself is very hot, don't know if it's just the battery or the whole thing... but the phone functions correctly.
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Hey, I've been using stock 4.1.2+ExperiencedKernel for a long time, it always worked great, but a few days ago I installed an icon pack for KKLauncher, and since then my battery consumption got really bad, around 15-20% per hour when the display is off! I've tried deleting the icon pack, but it's the same, I'm even checking BetterBatteryStats for details, but it doesn't show anything suspicious, although I'm using the app for the first time, so maybe I overlooked something. I have also reflashed the rom+kernel with full wipe, but no luck. Can anyone tell me what can cause this mess, or what should I upload from BetterBatteryStats for someone to check the problem? Thanks in advance.
btw it goes to deep sleep well, so it's not an app that wakes it up constantly (I use greenify too). also the phone itself is very hot, don't know if it's just the battery or the whole thing... but the phone functions correctly.
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If you don't have any wakelocks keeping it awake and you've reflashed the ROM, kernel and did a full wipe and the battery drain still exists... Then I'd say your battery is failing, especially if it's getting hot. My L9 never gets hot, even under heavy use.
The only other thing you could really try is flashing back to stock and see if the problem is still there... Really though, I'm pretty sure it's your battery.
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If you don't have any wakelocks keeping it awake and you've reflashed the ROM, kernel and did a full wipe and the battery drain still exists... Then I'd say your battery is failing, especially if it's getting hot. My L9 never gets hot, even under heavy use.
The only other thing you could really try is flashing back to stock and see if the problem is still there... Really though, I'm pretty sure it's your battery.
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Hi, thanks for your answer. The problem is, the phone gets really hot on the upper side of it, near the camera. The battery never gets hot at all. Is it possible, if it's battery problem?
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Hi, thanks for your answer. The problem is, the phone gets really hot on the upper side of it, near the camera. The battery never gets hot at all. Is it possible, if it's battery problem?
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I thought you meant that the battery was getting hot. The last time I had a battery go out, it was getting hot and it was draining fast. Shortly after that it wouldn't take a charge anymore.
It is possible that it's a hardware issue. WiFi, GPS or the camera could cause it to get hot also.
You can also try and boot the phone into "Safe Mode" and run it like that for a day or two and see if the problem still exists. If it problem disappears while in Safe Mode then you have a rogue app or something that's causing the issue.
Then to narrow it down you could try downloading Wakelock Detector and see if something is keeping it awake, making it hot and drain the battery.
Monitor it with Better Battery Stats and Wake lock Detector. Post some screen shots of BBS and Wakelock Detector here too. That way we can see if something is going on.
This is one of those issues that will take a process of elimination to figure out.
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I thought you meant that the battery was getting hot. The last time I had a battery go out, it was getting hot and it was draining fast. Shortly after that it wouldn't take a charge anymore.
It is possible that it's a hardware issue. WiFi, GPS or the camera could cause it to get hot also.
You can also try and boot the phone into "Safe Mode" and run it like that for a day or two and see if the problem still exists. If it problem disappears while in Safe Mode then you have a rogue app or something that's causing the issue.
Then to narrow it down you could try downloading Wakelock Detector and see if something is keeping it awake, making it hot and drain the battery.
Monitor it with Better Battery Stats and Wake lock Detector. Post some screen shots of BBS and Wakelock Detector here too. That way we can see if something is going on.
This is one of those issues that will take a process of elimination to figure out.
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I've been using BBS, it shows that the phone is in deep sleep in most of its off time, no app wakes it up. Also, wifi seems to lose its signal very often, even though it's strong (there wasn't any problem with that before).
I'm using the phone now without SD and SIM cards, it doesn't seem to be that hot than it used to, but charging and draining are still very weak. I'm gonna try safe mode as you suggested, and also using the phone without wifi turned on, if that is the issue. Thanks for your tips.
So, the phone cooled down after I turned off wifi, then I rebooted to safe mode, and it became hot once again, but after the media scanning, it cooled down once again. So I guess it may be the CPU? I've been trying to get a picture of the phone's circuit board with no luck, because the phone is only warm in the upper 1/3, the other parts seem to be cooled down all the time.
I'm gonna return it to T-Mobile on Monday, hopefully they won't notice the unlocked bootloader.
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So, the phone cooled down after I turned off wifi, then I rebooted to safe mode, and it became hot once again, but after the media scanning, it cooled down once again. So I guess it may be the CPU? I've been trying to get a picture of the phone's circuit board with no luck, because the phone is only warm in the upper 1/3, the other parts seem to be cooled down all the time.
I'm gonna return it to T-Mobile on Monday, hopefully they won't notice the unlocked bootloader.
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Yeah it might be the CPU. Also if it's dropping and/or scanning a lot for WiFi, then it will definitely get hot and kill the battery quickly.
I don't think that T-Mobile will notice that it's unlocked. As long as you flash back to stock ROM before taking it in, then they probably won't notice. They would have to be purposely looking for it to be unlocked.
You might want to flash back to stock anyway and see if the problem is still there... It very well could be a ROM/kernel issue causing the problem.
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Yeah it might be the CPU. Also if it's dropping and/or scanning a lot for WiFi, then it will definitely get hot and kill the battery quickly.
I don't think that T-Mobile will notice that it's unlocked. As long as you flash back to stock ROM before taking it in, then they probably won't notice. They would have to be purposely looking for it to be unlocked.
You might want to flash back to stock anyway and see if the problem is still there... It very well could be a ROM/kernel issue causing the problem.
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I have flashed back stock one I've been using (cwm flashable), of course I will remove root and any suspicious apps. I appreciate your help.
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