So I just installed Nerov4.1 which I must say I'm loving. However, my curiosity is making me want to check out axura's rom as well. I've read and seem some videos that state you should restore the phone to stock mode before installing another ROM. Is this true or can I just install another ROM through ROM Manager without having to do so? If I should restore my vibrant back to stock what is the best and easiest method to do it? I just want to make sure I'm doing the steps correctly when switching from ROM to ROM. Thanks for helping a newbie out fellas!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803492
Thanks for the response but do I have to go back to stock mode each time I want to try a new ROM??
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I'm very much just a noob, but as far as I'm aware you MUST disable voodoo. Vodoo comes automatically switched on in 4.1. If you are going back to stock this must be done.
I think you can go into clockwork recovery and turn it off. Or there's an app in the market that will be able to confirm/ switch it on or off I think.
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Thanks for the response but do I have to go back to stock mode each time I want to try a new ROM??
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Depends, but is recommend.
Depends on?
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I wrote steps in the noob guide... but as I pointed out there also, you do not always need to go back to stock.
I would disable voodoo (just to be safe)
make a backup
reboot
go back to cwr
factory wipe/wipe data/wipe dalvik (advanced)
flash the rom
reboot and wait
let the phone sit for 10 minutes
reboot
restore your apps (titanium Backup, assuming you use this app)
reboot
enable voodoo if not already
reboot
If you notice any issues then you should ODIN back to stock the flash the rom.. there may be "ghosts" from the previous rom causing the issue... it's a best practice, but absolutely not needed.
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factory wipe/wipe data/wipe dalvik (advanced)
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You mean that all data from internal disk will be erased, inculding the titanium backups?
Thank you in advance!
im wondering the smae thing.ive been flashing a lot of roms and havent had to go back to stock but i know its only a matter of time.if you find a method that works great for you please let me know
when we install new roms doesnt the process wipe the system data and dalvik cashe.why is it better to use your method.im just a curios noob
no.. all your pics, videos, etc will still be there unless you do a format yourself.
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Ok so as I'm still new to this and currently have a rooted Aria, with clockwork mod recovery and attn1's liberated rom, I'm kind of confused as to what would happen if I wanted to try a new custom rom. I know I would need to backup first with nandroid but is that just in case I need an emergency recovery or does that recover apps and data etc? I know then you would need to wipe, does that also wipe my clockwork mod recovery as in I would have to flash that again? After I install my new custom rom, how do I restore previous apps/settings? Thanks for your patience
Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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Well if you flash a new ROM, most of the time you have to wipe before you flash; you do lose your information this way, but its to make sure you install the ROM without difficulties.
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Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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I thought they were seperate, thanks.
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Well if you flash a new ROM, most of the time you have to wipe before you flash; you do lose your information this way, but its to make sure you install the ROM without difficulties.
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So how can you backup/restore your info when you have to wipe? Whats the easiest method?
Either use titanium backup to separately backup info or use nandroid backup and advanced restore the data partition but note that the advanced restore doesn't work with every combination of roms
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Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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I'm pretty sure attn1's ROM was an exception to that because it was the standard HTC Sense ROM without the AT&T bloatware. If you tried to install the Intruder 2.1 I'm almost positive you would have to wipe and lose everything before upgrading.
Sorry, I'm a noob here, and might not know what the heck I'm talking about.
After flashing a rom\keypad\kernel, and i see that it is working properly, do I need to leave it on the root of my sd card anymore or can I delete it? I am working with a 8gb card and it seems to be filling up fast.
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After flashing a rom\keypad\kernel, and i see that it is working properly, do I need to leave it on the root of my sd card anymore or can I delete it? I am working with a 8gb card and it seems to be filling up fast.
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You can delete them. It is 100% completely safe to delete all of them after flashing them. But if its something you really like (like a special kernel, favorite rom, etc.) you may want to keep a backup somewhere (e.g on your pc).
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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Hi, So im in a boot-loop, im gunna use clockworkmod recovery to make a backup reflash my phone with my current stock ROM then recover.
Will my contacts and message be on my phone when i recover???
Silly question but i have to be sure!!!
Cheers, james
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Hi, So im in a boot-loop, im gunna use clockworkmod recovery to make a backup reflash my phone with my current stock ROM then recover.
Will my contacts and message be on my phone when i recover???
Silly question but i have to be sure!!!
Cheers, james
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Have you established what it was that caused the boot loop? It might be worth taking a minute out and trying to work that out before progressing, if it was flashing a custom ROM, perhaps you should try that again, did you wipe etc beforehand?
So you plan is to
1. enter CWM recovery
2. take full Nadroid Backup
3. Perform Wipe
4. Re-flash current ROM (I'm guessing from ZIP file on SD not RUU?)
5 go back into CWM recovery
6. restore data partition?
Sounds good in theory and yes I believe that your messages will exist if you manage to restore data, I can't see what harm it will do - as you need to progress from where you are now.
Although, as I don't know what device you have and how you were intending ro re-flash your current ROM, you need to be careful that in re-flashing if you're using an RUU that you don't lock your bootloader or loose the custom recovery or you may have more work to do!!!
This is why im in a boot-loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212063
Im running 'I9000XWJVB' stock.
1. Backup with ClockworkMod Recovery.
2. Flash stock ROM with odin.
3. After my phone boots up restore the backup i made.
Sound good?
Cheers, James
jamesbebby said:
This is why im in a boot-loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212063
Im running 'I9000XWJVB' stock.
1. Backup with ClockworkMod Recovery.
2. Flash stock ROM with odin.
3. After my phone boots up restore the backup i made.
Sound good?
Cheers, James
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Ah, yes, I recall posting on that thread yesterday - shame you couldn't resolve it.
But this route does sound more hopeful. The steps do sound good. Although ensure that you only do a selective restore after the flash as you don't want to perform a full restore or you'll end up back where you are now. So I reckon that you'll only want to restore the data partition.
After restoring the data partition from the backup, I'd suggest that you wipe the cache & dalvik cache from within CWM, before you reboot.
If you use any third party messaging application you may want to install that before you restore.
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Ah, yes, I recall posting on that thread yesterday - shame you couldn't resolve it.
But this route does sound more hopeful. The steps do sound good. Although ensure that you only do a selective restore after the flash as you don't want to perform a full restore or you'll end up back where you are now. So I reckon that you'll only want to restore the data partition.
After restoring the data partition from the backup, I'd suggest that you wipe the cache & dalvik cache from within CWM, before you reboot.
If you use any third party messaging application you may want to install that before you restore.
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So far so good just restoring data part now..............Thank god for that it worked all my stuff is there!!! Im never playing around with that build.prop again ever!!!!! Anyway i have learn abit more on CWM so its not all a loss.
Cheers, James
jamesbebby said:
So far so good just restoring data part now..............Thank god for that it worked all my stuff is there!!! Im never playing around with that build.prop again ever!!!!! Anyway i have learn abit more on CWM so its not all a loss.
Cheers, James
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Glad to be able to help....I'll be honest I learnt there to....
Although something for the future:
1. Always take a fresh backup before making any un-tested change.
2. Always have you current ROM ZIP on SD card at all times.
3. You can probably export your messages to your SD card (just in case)
Now press THANKS. button.
Hey, I was wondering if I wanted to flash a new ROM, would I have to SBF, or could I just flash the new one with out doing anything, or could I flash P3Droid's GB update.zip?
Also another noob question, when doing System Recovery, do I have to press Install Recovery every time, or just once?
Thanks for you help!
just wipe data, cashe, and devlic and im fairly sure you can flash whatever you want. anything thats on gingerbread. eclipse 0.7 official is gunna be out real soon, the test version is the best so far in my opinion.
Thanks! Wanted to try it out, right now im trying the Window 7 ROM!
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I think the rule is if its based on the same version of android, you can just wipe the data, etc., as mentioned above. If you want to go a step further just to be safe, you can do a factory reset which could get rid of some stuff left over from other roms and start you over from scratch. Note that factory reset will remove all your settings and apps which you will have to restore afterwards. Titanium backup does a real good job of putting everything back to how it was though.
Thanks. I started to just flash over and make nandroids to be able to "dual boot" different ROMs haha
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Hello guys.
What is the best way to wipe my phone, so its completely ready for new ROM?
Sorry if its alrdy out there. But hopefully you can help, im a bit new.
There area couple of things I would do and they are as follows
1. Do a backup of all your apps with Titanium or some other program like that
2. Do a full Nandroid back up of your current rom just incase you soft brick your phone.
3. Back up your EFS folder once that is gone its pretty hard to get it back. I have never had a problem but others have.
4. Make sure you wipe your cache/user data with CWM and also dalvik cache. This is to insure you dont have any issues with your old rom conflicting with the new one its sucks I have done this even if it says NO-WIPE rom.
5. Install your new rom whatever that may be
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MAKE BACKUPS OF YOUR APPS
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
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There area couple of things I would do and they are as follows
1. Do a backup of all your apps with Titanium or some other program like that
2. Do a full Nandroid back up of your current rom just incase you soft brick your phone.
3. Back up your EFS folder once that is gone its pretty hard to get it back. I have never had a problem but others have.
4. Make sure you wipe your cache/user data with CWM and also dalvik cache. This is to insure you dont have any issues with your old rom conflicting with the new one its sucks I have done this even if it says NO-WIPE rom.
5. Install your new rom whatever that may be
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MAKE BACKUPS OF YOUR APPS
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
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In addition to the steps, you can also format the system and emmc, If you want a clean slate. Just remember to place New ROM and nandroid backup on ext SD card before formatting
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
Sorry for hijacking, but this thread seemed suitable rather than starting a new.
Cheers!
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I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
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Sure, any backup of a working ROM is good. You can always pull an official firmware from Intratech's thread to flash back to stock if you need to in the future.
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Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
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Maybe. I see a Norwegian flag in your profile. If you flash back to stock, it MAY work for you. Doesn't for me, but that's because I'm in the US, and no one officially carries this phone here.. so neither Kies nor OTA work for updates for me.
edgenet said:
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
Sorry for hijacking, but this thread seemed suitable rather than starting a new.
Cheers!
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No, not suitable at all.
Hijacking bigtime and not using "search" either - good start, you'll not be popular if you carry on like this...
Since like me you're in Norway and can't sleep either I'll try to help - no links though, you gotta search:
If you're careful with flashing the softbrick chances are small. Yes, you can back up your current ROM.
No, you can't update via "search for updates" on the phone. It's an OTA feature that's never been implemented in Gingerbread - at least not here in Norge.
And you can't "presume" what your original firmware/ROM was - you either know it or you don't.
To be honest, you don't sound like you're ready for custom ROMs yet. I'd do a lot more reading here if I were you.
Lykke til.
If i format system and emmc ..will i have to root the phone again?
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If i format system and emmc ..will i have to root the phone again?
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Do you mean format /system? I'm thinking if you format /system, you'll have to re-flash the phone's firmware.
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That does a full wipe, whilst keeping root.
If you change Roms, you will lose your root.
But when you install a custom kernel, most auto root anyway.
Finally words of advice, ALWAYS be sure what your doing if flashing anything!
Don't rush into Anything until YOU KNOW what your doing.
Not sure about something, ask. (dont guess or assume)
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Thanks..
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