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Lately there has been an influx of people breaking their phones with voodoo.
Common reasons:
1. Downloading voodoo for the wrong phone.
2. Installing voodoo5 on top of voodoo4.
3. Running odin restore files on the above scenarios.
4. Wrong phones flashing OUR voodoo.
Do yourself a favor. Understand voodoo, and understand it well before even considering flashing it. Become proficient with adb, read all the documentation.
Ask questions. Become the voodoo/adb/rom/root/flashing/android expert BEFORE flashing. Then ask for advice once more.
Do not flash voodoo because you think its some godsend. It is not. It is a very specific and advanced tool to fix performance hangups on SGS phones under one very specific circumstance: Write operations. Due to the buggy RFS filesystem, write speeds are very poor. The phone ends up waiting for write operations to complete, causing lag, slight hangs, and slowdowns. Voodoo addresses some (but not all) of this. Some of the issue also stems from the fact that Movinand (our flash storage) makes the write operations slow.
So, does this mean voodoo will zooom zoom?
Depends on the type of user you are.
1. If you don't notice the lag, do not install voodoo.
2. If you do not perform heavy write operations (rss readers, browsing, news readers, heavy duty email, etc), voodoo is NOT FOR YOU.
3. If you don't know if you need it, YOU DO NOT.
I type this as a request, and plea for folks to pay attention and be careful with what they are doing. These phones are brickable, under the right circumstances, unless you have very specialized tools. I do not have all of these tools, and neither do you. Stop tempting fate!
Finally, a word of advice.
If you want to remove voodoo4:
DO NOT ODIN OVER IT UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTION.
Check my uninstall thread, or better yet, disable it like you are supposed to and then remove it. Read the voodoo threads for more information.
If you want to upgrade to voodoo5:
DO NOT do it on top of voodoo4. Just_do_not_do_it. Do not install it on DI01 unless specifically for it. If you don't know, ASK.
If you want to remove voodoo5:
Assuming you didn't flash a kernel from a DIFFERENT phone, read the uninstall thread, and only do Odin if its your last choice. Odin is much more able to remove voodoo5, but there is still risk.
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS
Understand that flashing something advanced like this could hurt your phone and someone may not be able to fix it. Get insurance. Take out a life insurance policy. Do SOMETHING.
I have had a huge influx of dead phones being brought to me. I am starting to reach the limit of what I can fix. Be careful folks, this is not a game to play with a 500 dollar device unless you are prepared to buy a new one if you break it.
Just don't install voodoo period
Geeknik's kernels in ROM manager are safer, easier and better.
I don't have the knowledge to have said it better, but I at least understand what my limits are. I tried to say something to this end a couple of days ago on irc, actually and I think I was misunderstood.
The way people incessantly ask the same damn question on irc is rediculous. "why won't my phone work?" "How can I fix it?" For Gods' sake, if you don't know read!
Irc is a tool, for sure, but it's just 1 of many. I'd like to think that it would stay a place where you can get access to the cutting edge, without having to scroll through 1000 lines of the same questions over and over again.
Thanks Adryn.
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Geeknik's kernels in ROM manager are safer, easier and better.
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...and 100% irrelevant to this thread.
Stay on topic please.
Nice way to put it, hopefully more people will actually READ this instead of trolling!
Good point made by the OP! I put voodoo lagfix on my phone after rooting it, my phone was the first one I ever attempted to do anything like this and I was a noob...still am. I nearly bricked my phone mainly because I still didn't know what I was doing after reading many documentations and asking people. I braved it and it nearly cost me a phone. I've stayed away from voodoo since then and I really don't think I would need this since I don't do any of the stuff that was mentioned that warrants this fix.
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...and 100% irrelevant to this thread.
Stay on topic please.
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I wouldn't say it's completely irrelevent. He's trying to steer inexperienced users towards a safer alternative to voodoo that also helps relieve the speed issues with the phones.
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Then he can make another thread about it.
This is regarding voodoo mishaps.
PERIOD.
Its side conversations from folks hijacking the thread that ruin the message.
Question...if i currently have voodoo should i even uninstall it? I put it on my phone a couple months ago and everything went fine but im not sure if i even need it. I have the" reboot button" app from a dev on these forums.that allows u to.disable/enable voodoo and i honestly can't tell a difference when i disable it.
I.just feel like i should get rid of it now to prevent ant future problems that can occur. Thoughts?
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Question...if i currently have voodoo should i even uninstall it? I put it on my phone a couple months ago and everything went fine but im not sure if i even need it. I have the" reboot button" app from a dev on these forums.that allows u to.disable/enable voodoo and i honestly can't tell a difference when i disable it.
I.just feel like i should get rid of it now to prevent ant future problems that can occur. Thoughts?
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I say get rid of it if you don't need it. It's not worth it anyway. Plus, when CM comes to our phone, we'll need RFS (or stock file system in layman's terms) based on the i9000 requirements.
there should be a competency test for voodoo
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Question...if i currently have voodoo should i even uninstall it? I put it on my phone a couple months ago and everything went fine but im not sure if i even need it. I have the" reboot button" app from a dev on these forums.that allows u to.disable/enable voodoo and i honestly can't tell a difference when i disable it.
I.just feel like i should get rid of it now to prevent ant future problems that can occur. Thoughts?
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FWIW, I had exactly the same situation and I removed it. Not problem 1, but I just felt like if something did go wrong, I may not be able to fix it so I removed it. It seems to me it's all about RTFM. If you take your time, read the directions, read them again, make sure you're prepared with the right files, read the directions again, and then slowly flash away, you probably will be fine.
Then again, I may just have the most resilient phone Samsung ever made...
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FWIW, I had exactly the same situation and I removed it. Not problem 1, but I just felt like if something did go wrong, I may not be able to fix it so I removed it. It seems to me it's all about RTFM. If you take your time, read the directions, read them again, make sure you're prepared with the right files, read the directions again, and then slowly flash away, you probably will be fine.
Then again, I may just have the most resilient phone Samsung ever made...
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I just read how to uninstall it completely (not disable) and I feel like I won't be able to do that lol. I'm scared.
nitsuj17 said:
there should be a competency test for voodoo
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^voodoo^flashing
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Why do idiots still use voodoo lagfix crap when they've been proven nothing but trouble?
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They are useful. However trouble is relevant to the user.
joe3681 said:
Why do idiots still use voodoo lagfix crap when they've been proven nothing but trouble?
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the voodoo lagfix isnt crap....and if you actually knew what it was/did you wouldnt say that...im guessing you are someone who couldnt handle it....and you wouldnt be alone
if you dont feel confident restoring your phone from whatever may arise...dont use voodoo...also if you dont know what it is, dont flash it
even though adryn goes out his way to make everything idiot proof, even bigger idiots step up and prove that to be untrue
Thanks adrynalyne for the post! Good to know you're looking out for people to not brick their phones.
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They are useful. However trouble is relevant to the user.
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Extremely useful. Newsrob drives me nuts without it. Although Voodoo still doesn't seem as snappy as the original ext2 fix.
Jodiuh said:
Extremely useful. Newsrob drives me nuts without it. Although Voodoo still doesn't seem as snappy as the original ext2 fix.
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Original ext2 fix was mostly placebo on this phone... ,voodoo is real
I always thought that task managers were detrimental to battery life and weren't recommended on your device after froyo. But, the 3vo comes with a pre installed task manager. I've been using it, do you guys?
I personally don't, Android can manage itself. They put it in to make the uninformed feel comfortable.
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LOL good one
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I personally don't, Android can manage itself. They put it in to make the uninformed feel comfortable.
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Agreed. I got over the myth of task managers some time back.
Also, they really just added a "Task Manager" gui to GB, as it is technically already in Android. Before you just had to go into Applications/Manage Applications, then you could kill (Stop) any running app. Since Android manages this stuff on its own, there really isn't any need to bother with it though.
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I always thought that task managers were detrimental to battery life and weren't recommended on your device after froyo. But, the 3vo comes with a pre installed task manager. I've been using it, do you guys?
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Android has always had a task manager built in the framework. They put it there so people don't download those apps and disrupt processes that android has not deemed necessary to close yet.
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I understand that Android manages it's memory and battery.
I just like an easy way to kill apps I want to be dead. Whether because they're causing errors and won't properly exit, or because they insist on running in the background once you are done with them.
When is this going to be available? I'm sick and tired of having to go through MotoBlur and all those other ****ty AT&T apps. I just want a regular computer OS on a cellphone so that I can talk to people over skype via. wifi. Is that so hard to ask?
So, how can I go about this? Or is this still not available?
Still unavailable, unless you want a extremely unstable and slow rom, best bet right now is to flash gingerblur
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When is this going to be available? I'm sick and tired of having to go through MotoBlur and all those other ****ty AT&T apps. I just want a regular computer OS on a cellphone so that I can talk to people over skype via. wifi. Is that so hard to ask?
So, how can I go about this? Or is this still not available?
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Be ready as soon as you get it done!
If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If you build it they will come. Otherwise get a different device or quit crying and ride it out.
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Ninja rom de-blurs and de-bloats.
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Ninja rom de-blurs and de-bloats.
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It definately does not de-blur. Its just themed as aosp but the rest of blur is still there. Its goal is to become de-blurred but were far from that. Id say a few more weeks/ month or two.
I recommend cherryblur. I think it can provide what you're looking for. Upon loading it bypasses the MOTOBLUR setup process entirely and replaces the moto interface with LauncherPro, which is much more enjoyable to use. From there you can download SDK Stock App remover and Advanced Task Killer for complete control over what goes on under the hood of your phone. It may sound like a *****, but if you're a control freak when it comes to your personal devices like I am, it's well worth the effort.
Sent from my ATRIX running CherryBlur 1.2
http://www.expansys.com/motorola-atrix-207852/
Seems the SIM Free version is out in the UK. Does anyone own one and can get the Gingerbread rom for it? I'd like to have the atrix without the AT&T crap, but keep Motoblur... I'm from the UK so it would also be nice to have all the UK customisations and not US ones (e.g telephone no. spacing, en-GB language etc.)
One of the great things about open source is the hobbyist/developer side bringing us great enhancements and functionality for cheap or free. Then you have the ungrateful users like this are experts at *****ing, whining and demanding but not smart enough to go buy something like the nexus s or a phone that has had its bootloader unlocked more than a month and some development under its belt for awhile.
I voided my warranty.
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If you want it that bad, then grab the lower spec Motorola Milestone. If you need one with an 850 3G Band, then get the Telus Motorola Milestone.
Ironically I know someone who went from the Atrix to the Milestone for this purpose alone, and they are actually happier because of no Motoblur.
Then again if I didn't have my SGS, I might have entertained the idea of going back myself since I truly hate Motoblur as well... (my Atrix is sitting on the sidelines waiting for official CM7 or Vanilla)
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I recommend cherryblur. I think it can provide what you're looking for. Upon loading it bypasses the MOTOBLUR setup process entirely and replaces the moto interface with LauncherPro, which is much more enjoyable to use. From there you can download SDK Stock App remover and Advanced Task Killer for complete control over what goes on under the hood of your phone. It may sound like a *****, but if you're a control freak when it comes to your personal devices like I am, it's well worth the effort.
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IMHO Advanced Task Killer needs to be laid to rest since the days of Eclair.
Froyo changed everything, and ATK hasn't worked properly since Froyo came out.
I recommend using "System Panel" instead. It shows you everything running in the background. You can kill programs just like ATK if you really want, but more importantly you can find the repeat offending programs that keep popping up and freeze them in Titanium Backup...
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I am amazed at how many people still believe that ATK is a "must-have". It's such a gross misconception. Here is a thread that covers the topic quite comprehensively:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
ccrows said:
IMHO Advanced Task Killer needs to be laid to rest since the days of Eclair.
Froyo changed everything, and ATK hasn't worked properly since Froyo came out.
I recommend using "System Panel" instead. It shows you everything running in the background. You can kill programs just like ATK if you really want, but more importantly you can find the repeat offending programs that keep popping up and freeze them in Titanium Backup...
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live4nyy said:
+1
I am amazed at how many people still believe that ATK is a "must-have". It's such a gross misconception. Here is a thread that covers the topic quite comprehensively:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
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Exactly!
It blows my mind on how many people (even on other XDA boards) still suggest using 3rd party task killers.
There's no reason, especially with the Atrix, to use them anymore...
Iincludes easter eggs, videos to show to people to show off screen, certain apps, anything.
I found out I can make calls
adrynalyne said:
I found out I can make calls
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Really?!? That's awesome! Do I need root?
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wpsantennas said:
Really?!? That's awesome! Do I need root?
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Nah, it works on stock. I think its a bonus feature for having battery life
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Nah, it works on stock. I think its a bonus feature for having battery life
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Wtf my doesnt do this
"The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall."
adrynalyne said:
I found out I can make calls
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Glad to see you got one.
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hajabooja said:
Glad to see you got one.
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
...it can be a great ping pong paddle
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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i think you mean "it remains to be seen whether i can keep away from it or not though."
Cdoan34 said:
i think you mean "it remains to be seen whether i can keep away from it or not though."
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Possibly
It's very very light....I forget I have it in my pocket sometimes, and its apparently really water resistant. I spilled on myself, while it was in my pocket T_T
Just got mine today and I already lrn'd2root
Not only does mine make calls.... but people can actually dial a special number and call me!!!
Most people don't seem to be all that impressed by it, but these are non tech lovers. They look at it and are like "oh. . . it's pretty". I don't think there is anything I could show them on the screen that would impress them much.
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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Keep it adryn!!!! pu pu please! we need all the dev love we can get!!! I for one will appreciate havign you around. But should you leave please drop a hint as to where you'll be headed
some cool things I have found out,
it may be old news for you, and some were mentioned in tech blog space before
1. during my call, i turned the phone face down and it automatically turn to speaker. which was mentioned by engadget and ac, but see it working and give convenience, it is a good fun.
2. go to settings->apps-> all, I can actually disable quite a number of pre-installed bloats, without root or any other hacks. this is awesome. for example, amazon, viewnidi, vz navigator, vz backup plus all those bs, i can disable them, without worrying that if it will fc later or cause trouble =).
oh, disabling those stuff can give me much lower memory usage, and improve battery life because many of them are running at the background.
Guess what Titanium Backup uses to freeze apps by default on Android 4.x. It just uses that Disable feature as far as I can tell.
A few times when I've pulled my phone out friends have mostly just commented on the size, but I don't go on about it with non-tech people usually. I try not to be too showy.
As for cool stuff to do with it, it's really kind of gotten me in to digging in and finding mods to do to it on my own. I haven't really done that so much on my previous phones; only relied on pre-done mods, like I got the recent apps button to turn in to a menu button a good bit before anyone on the thread seemed to get it working, although a lot of the issues probably have to do with people using plain notepad, when better luck would probably be had with a "programmer's" notepad that'd probably load and save with UNIX style newlines.
Also, it gives quite a phone-bulge.
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Guess what Titanium Backup uses to freeze apps by default on Android 4.x. It just uses that Disable feature as far as I can tell.
A few times when I've pulled my phone out friends have mostly just commented on the size, but I don't go on about it with non-tech people usually. I try not to be too showy.
As for cool stuff to do with it, it's really kind of gotten me in to digging in and finding mods to do to it on my own. I haven't really done that so much on my previous phones; only relied on pre-done mods, like I got the recent apps button to turn in to a menu button a good bit before anyone on the thread seemed to get it working, although a lot of the issues probably have to do with people using plain notepad, when better luck would probably be had with a "programmer's" notepad that'd probably load and save with UNIX style newlines.
Also, it gives quite a phone-bulge.
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Certain apps/processes can't be disabled in stock Android, but TiBu let's me freeze them.
Honestly Youtube has to be the most impressive thing you can show anyone... the HD quality over 4g is simply great and then they try to load the same video on their apple crap and it looks like 8 bit mario... just make sure its a newer video from within the last year or so or the quality will be horrid.
mainly because everyone has that app and can compare side by side... and be like wow
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Certain apps/processes can't be disabled in stock Android, but TiBu let's me freeze them.
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That's when you may run into problem.
Having root access and do stuff like that, will give unexpected drags in some apps which will affect your battery life or other functions.
For example if some functions or apps are providing system level service to others, and unfortunately if some applications uses them.. and you frozed them... then it is totally depending on the app developers' handling in such case.
either kept polling , or throwing exceptions, FCs etc.
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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Them sound like fightin words
Me and some other guys kinda highjacked another thread so I decided to open a new one here for people to share their opinions, thought and general arguments and if there are easy solutions to the matters that the DNA makes you sad, I did look through the first 10 pages of this section and didn't find anything similar so people, bash away, and bear in mind that what you say will shape my (and others) opinion and whether I should or shouldn't buy this damn amazing piece of equipment
This seems like a good idea, and I can definitely see this helping a lot of people. I'm extremely happy with my DNA thus far; stellar battery life and performance, and the build quality is superb (especially the literal edge-to-edge glass that feels like it flows off the front of the screen). It's also quite resilient - I had it sitting in the passenger seat of my car, got into a pretty serious accident, and the phone doesn't have a single scratch on it. Obviously I got very lucky, but yeah..
On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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I don't think that without root you'll be able to delete them, not sure though and I'm not suggesting you should root cause apart from the warranty being void there's always a risk of bricking, small but is there... I guess for now you gotta live with it.
One thing that annoyed me about the DNA is that they chose to put Back, Menu, and Multitasking as the buttons. So you still have to have the 3-dot menu on screen. Luckily, if you root the device, you can change the multitasking button to Settings (which is exactly what I wanted), so I'm thrilled to have that. The bloatware remover is great as well.
If you aren't afraid to root it, there is awesome stuff out there for it. I won't be using a rom without Sense because I actually like Sense a lot. The lock screen and camera software are the best that I've seen.
The USB flap is annoying, but I will definitely be getting a wireless charger.
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I don't think that without root you'll be able to delete them, not sure though and I'm not suggesting you should root cause apart from the warranty being void there's always a risk of bricking, small but is there... I guess for now you gotta live with it.
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Ah, alright. I'm planning on rooting it eventually.. at some point.. but as you said, there's always that risk lol. Plus, beyond that small issue with the 3 bookmarks, everything else about the phone is perfect even without root, so I can live with it Thanks for your input though!
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This seems like a good idea, and I can definitely see this helping a lot of people. I'm extremely happy with my DNA thus far; stellar battery life and performance, and the build quality is superb (especially the literal edge-to-edge glass that feels like it flows off the front of the screen). It's also quite resilient - I had it sitting in the passenger seat of my car, got into a pretty serious accident, and the phone doesn't have a single scratch on it. Obviously I got very lucky, but yeah..
On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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I don't know if you can do it with the apps you mentioned, but you can disable a lot of apps through settings without root.
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I don't know if you can do it with the apps you mentioned, but you can disable a lot of apps through settings without root.
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
3 dots
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One thing that annoyed me about the DNA is that they chose to put Back, Menu, and Multitasking as the buttons. So you still have to have the 3-dot menu on screen.
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on the one X you could change it through settings where you choose what the multitasking button does, if I remember correct when you put the button to show the settings menu in single touch and multitask on long press it dissappears, not sure if it works on the dna but give it a try and report back
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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I see what you mean. I just tried it myself and couldn't delete those 3 bookmarks either. Guess root is needed to delete them. Unfortunately, currently you cannot write to the system while booted in android on the DNA. You would have to do it through recovery somehow.
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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Why not try opera or chrome for browser as a default? I personally prefer opera mobile but try a few first, like maxton and skyfire
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Why not try opera or chrome for browser as a default? I personally prefer opera mobile but try a few first, like maxton and skyfire
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That's a good idea too. I almost never use the stock browser anyway. Boat browser has been pretty good to me as well although any of these would work. What I like about 3rd party browsers probably the most (aside from features) is the fact that I can exit the browser. With the stock one it will just keep running even if you back out of it.
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That's a good idea too. I almost never use the stock browser anyway. Boat browser has been pretty good to me as well although any of these would work. What I like about 3rd party browsers probably the most (aside from features) is the fact that I can exit the browser. With the stock one it will just keep running even if you back out of it.
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true, whenever I flash a new rom and reinstall opera I always activate the exit button on options.
phones been surprisingly awsome on stock.
I rooted the phone so i could run wifi tether. No issues with disconnects and I can actually tether my phone and not have to plug it in for 6-8 hours.
Love the screen, not just how good it looks but the waterfall effect the glass has feels amazing to me. Overall, very pleased with my purchase.
the european version was just announced so I think I'm gonna be going for that cause it states a sd card slot in contrast to the dna,
all the other specs remain the same
so I guess I'll be attending another forum soon, hope you find help on this thread and pm me if I can help with anything
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-butterfly/#specs
My biggest gripe (besides the 3 dot menu button) is the damn messaging app. Every single time I go into it, it 'refreshes.' So many times the app takes a few seconds to load and it shows everyone's phone numbers instead of the names. I just don't understand why.
I'm hesitant to switch to another messaging app because 1) I think they're ugly/love the look of the Sense app and 2) I love how I can see a new message on the Sense lock screen and swipe directly into it.
trebb said:
My biggest gripe (besides the 3 dot menu button) is the damn messaging app. Every single time I go into it, it 'refreshes.' So many times the app takes a few seconds to load and it shows everyone's phone numbers instead of the names. I just don't understand why.
I'm hesitant to switch to another messaging app because 1) I think they're ugly/love the look of the Sense app and 2) I love how I can see a new message on the Sense lock screen and swipe directly into it.
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It sounds kinda weird, how many contacts and messages do you have? if it's not thousands I guess there might be something wrong
try another messaging app to see if it's persistant or just the sense messaging
I don't have that many contacts, and I definitely don't have that many messages. I limit it to 200 per thread (only a few people reach this), and I even go through and delete it down to like 10 threads that are the most important. Regardless, this shouldn't happen on a phone with 2GB of RAM. Frustrates me to no end.
I posted a thread about this in this section maybe a week or two ago, and a few users chimed in saying they were seeing similar behavior. I don't think it's just me.
Mine does the refresh on sms too. Its like 1 second though so not a big deal.
Had the phone for a week. Battery life has been excellent. This is the first time in 2 years I havent had to charge my phone at work at all. Consistently get well over 4 hours screen on time. Although I've noticed using non-sense launcher its not quite as good but still excellent.
The screen is amazing and even at 5 inches it fits comfortably in the hand. Even pushing this many pixels I have yet to notice anything id call lag.
The 3-dot menu can be annoying if you notice it. Hoping for an update somewhere to deal with that at some point. I've also had issues with Netflix not loading properly but I blame the app. Also, I've noticed when I change lockscreen style, like to productivity or something it doesn't work too smoothly. Not being able to change wallpaper on a screen longpress kinda baffles me as well.
The phone definitely has some quirks and some areas where HTC could have made the operation of things more efficient instead of adding unnecessary steps. But I would definitely recommend this phone to anyone it is really a pleasure to use.
Btw, being left handed, am I the only one that wishes the back button was on the right instead of the left?
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crossmission said:
on the one X you could change it through settings where you choose what the multitasking button does, if I remember correct when you put the button to show the settings menu in single touch and multitask on long press it dissappears, not sure if it works on the dna but give it a try and report back
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Nah, for some reason, they took that out of the DNA. Can't change it in the stock options.
broons said:
Btw, being left handed, am I the only one that wishes the back button was on the right instead of the left?
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I'm right handed and wish it was on the right because my thumb isn't long enough to reach it on the left.
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