Hi , lot of developper Jerpelea , Zdzihu & TripNRaVeRs and i dont forget Binary & Maxrfon & goroh "
try hardly to put custom rom for our X10 ,
strategy : why focusing on 2.2 or 2.1 AOSP : 2.3.1 is more attractive we have a lot of delay stop viewing the past :
Synergy : each developer work hard but alone "not enough fast" maybe the creation of one Dev-team & one project " avoid the personal conflicts" is a better way to escape from SE Curse they develop 2.1 and 2.2 is already in the Market
PS: i am very proud by our Devs , I only think that 1+1+1+1 ..... is better than BIG One
its a democracy but consensus is better
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agree with u , all of them are proffisor alone but if thy work together we don`t know what they can do !
I support your initiative. I would love to have ONE great ROM (with full hardware support) rather than several "half implemented" ROMs like we have today.
IMO most developers here prefer to work alone (don't know if it's related to donations...), but it's really easy to see that if all of them join a single project we would definetly have a better and more optimized ROM.
One good thing is that Google seems to slow down the new major releases to two a year, so our developers will also have more time to debug and keep up.
I can only assume that they have put a lot of time looking at and understanding how the previous versions run, now they have an understanding they are putting it to good use and developing us a custom rom free of charge. To inhance our phones
I dare say they are probably looking at the gingerbread stuff now but you can only you can only do what you can do, there is no point stopping a development everytime new software came out because that way you would never have anything finished.
Patience is key, these guys do have lives, there is a order to everything and just because you dont understand it doesnt mean it is wrong
the dev's are amazing and i wish i had the knowledge to help more, icecream is coming out in the summer will the devs be expected to down tools and move on from gingerbread then?
just be patient and let the devs do their magic
My (limited) understanding is that since the bootloader is still locked, they are developing these custom ROMs on the existing 2.1 kernel that SE has put out for the X10. That means that certain core components are Android 2.1, and can't be replaced without bootloader access.
As such, it makes sense that the further an OS version is from 2.1, the more likely it is that it will require specific features not available in the 2.1 kernel.
So developing stock 2.1 for the X10 would be easiest, 2.2 would be more difficult, 2.3 even moreso, and so on.
maybe its true but developing 2.1 AOSP or 2.1 with sense take a ot of time and confir the stupid idea from SE Eclair 2.1 plus SE soft is better than Froyo ,
Creating a team will reduce time of developement and may be improve the quality of the rom build , my idea it just to say that and unify the X10 community in supporting one effective project thant wasting a lot of creativity & effort in incomplete work its easy to say the difficulty is to DOING the Job
Just a little bit of insight here from someone who isn't a developer of ROMS....
I agree that combining their efforts would most likely give us better results with regards to hardware. Here's what I think may be happening. Now that they're able to create functioning ROMs, they're each taking the time to hammer out their skills. When you learn something new, you generally spend your time redoing the same thing over and over until you've got it down pat.
That being said, they're each learning more and more as they attempt new ROMs. I think once the fascination of "Hey I got a working port of *this* ROM first!" wears off, maybe they'll work together to create a fully functioning ROM. Who knows, one of them may actually sit still for a moment and finish up one of their own ROMs.
I hope that all of the developers working on different ROMs at the very least keep a line of communication open between them so as to share fixes and work arounds.
speaking of GB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911364
Yes! I Agree With You!!!!
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I love all the dev here, but i too just don't get it..
either i get a working camera or working wifi ? Come ON...
i hope you guys see this posts as friendly talk, we are so lucky that we have all of you here you all understand the need of one functional AOSP Rom 2.2, 2.3 whatever
I feel the same way maybe the devs should team up and create a monster ROM that works.
I agree. It's been proven time and time again, teams work better than individuals. Please unite Devs! Think of what could be accomplished
I havn't even tested a ROM yet since their all incomplete, simple as that.
All the different ideas and "wishes" posted on this thread are of course appealing but until the bootloader is cracked it's practically impossible to have a fully working ROM on any other version other than the 2.1, at least from a short term perspective.
Correct me if im wrong, but from my understanding they started to work with 2.1 just to make it simpler to mod the code to 2.2 later.
The reason is that SE have released some code for 2.1, but of course not for 2.2. So they used SEs 2.1 code to develop the 2.1 AOSP rom. And could therefore much easier convert the code to 2.2.
It seems like you guys haven't been paying attention to dev work for the x10. Maybe it's because you didn't lurk the sub-forum since the beginning or maybe you don't understand what the devs are actually doing.
The devs ARE working together. jerpelea, zdzidu, bin4ry, goro-kun, maxfron, and many others DO communicate.
What one person said about having 2.2+ functions are strictly related to the kernal and bootloaders is the final word. Sony implemented special drivers for the camera and video decoding.
Until someone writes the drivers from scratch AND unlock the bootloader, we will have less than 100% functioning 2.2+ roms.
on that 2.3.1 HTC rom camera is working ... if they can get the BT and Wifi working it will be awesome . but i have a question . will we get the (MT) on these roms after SE release? i mean for 2.2 and 2.3
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I havn't even tested a ROM yet since their all incomplete, simple as that.
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Yep.
Me neither.
And only because the camera and HD are not working
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on that 2.3.1 HTC rom camera is working ... if they can get the BT and Wifi working it will be awesome . but i have a question . will we get the (MT) on these roms after SE release? i mean for 2.2 and 2.3
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The htc rom mentioned by you is 2.1. That thread is for 2 roms. 2.1 htc and gingerbread. So no, camera is not working on 2.2+ yet. Z got some progress making the camera atleast respond, but so far, if he implements full camera function, he looses other key functions in the rom. Not a good trade.
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No pressrue on the devs and they can do what they please with their work. But as other have said it sounds like a great idea. Any devs care to comment on this idea?
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I had to post this because the only to working roms are the Gingerbread ones and thats it. Did all the developers stop working on their roms and moved on? or can we expect updates on their exsisting roms?
There are some really good roms out there and it seems as though the Eris is coming to an end.
Hmmm the only two working roms are the Gingerbread ones? I beg to differ....
It seems like most of the froyo roms have been updated around mid-late January.. I didn't know a few weeks was the end of our eris' lives! Your right though, in the sense that CM7 is now the new popular choice, and subsequently the most updated/talked about roms. Also alot of our devs have moved on to different phones and only drop by occasionally here to maintain their work and lend an expert hand
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xtrROM was just updated to version 5 a couple of weeks ago. CELB gets updated every few weeks. My guess is that Workshed and Tazz are concentrating on GB rather than Froyo these days, though I think Tazz is still working on the Froyo Sense build.
I think that Froyo has matured, obviously Eclair has as well, and obviously Gingerbread is getting a lot of attention right now.
Tazz is still updating his Froyo rom's, workshed is still updating his Froshedyo build, punk.kaos is still updating his froyo build as well as his GB build. New themes and complete theme roms are being built for cm7 AND cm6 constantly. Just gotta check the forums frequently and watch for updates. There's actually quite a bit of action going on in the Eris forums now a days, on the CM6 side as well as CM7. Also I am about to have a CM6 rom in the works.
Tazz and Workshed are perfecting their CM7 roms at the moment but are still dedicated to their CM6 roms too. There are some amazing devs here at the Eris forums that are working hard through sickness and all kinds of personal issues to give the people what they want. The 1st post is kind of like an insult to their work. Don't give up on them, they just have a lot on their plate right now.
Oh no don't get me wrong, I love my Eris. I do like the new GB roms its basically the same style and it makes it confusing which one to load on the phone. Zenexp, Energyexpress, tenzoRCmix those roms I wish were updated too. Especially those roms with apps2sd which makes it better for the Eris being that the Eris doesn't have lots of space.
But I understand these Dev's working hard to ensure that our phone become part of the whats new in the market on other phones. I commend their hard work.
just fyi both the gingerbread roms now have app2sd and cache2cache working. also, tazz had commented recently in his gingerbread thread about working on the camera for froyo sense.
Any of the 2.1 roms have been taken as far as they can go.
The 2.2 ROMs are almost 100% perfect... so no reason to update.
2.3 ROMs make the most sense.
Hungry Man said:
Any of the 2.1 roms have been taken as far as they can go.
The 2.2 ROMs are almost 100% perfect... so no reason to update.
2.3 ROMs make the most sense.
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OR... you could take those ol 2.1 roms and with the permission of their respected devs, and work on them yourself. Use the android kitchen to change some stuff n tweak it around. Then maybe YOU sir can update them for US!
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punk.kaos is still updating his froyo build as well as his GB build.
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He doesn't seem to be. KF last update was two months ago, and his GB ROM hasn't been updated since Jan 10. I'm not complaining about it at all, but he seems to be spending a lot of time working on his Fascinate ROMs right now.
I think Conap, Workshed, Tazz, Tenzo, and Zach.xtr are the developers most actively working on Eris ROMs right now.
Not so fast, Ranger Rick! They're developing on MANY levels. The Eris is still a big deal, okay? Okay
And now there is another new dev on here..... ME ! Put up my 2.2 rom a few days ago !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963722
Started working on a CM7 build yesterday as well and should have it done by the end of the week hopefully !!!!
Thanks for the feedback guys. I didn't mean to sound like a jack, but you're right about the roms. I would love to create my own or better yet take a rom and change to my liking. But don't know how. These roms you guys make are awesome but its like I always want more and always love new updates or new roms.
I'm good with PSCS4 but not coding or even trying to create a rom. I would love to learn and create my own or mod someone elses rom. How?
I think that first learning app creation might be a good place to start, get the basics of programming down. Then try to go deeper with a ROM. Idk, maybe that's just my own idea. I personally am kind of in the process od learning Java coding to make apps and have a few ideas for apps. The developer of one of my favorite apps called Ethereal Dialpad is helping me learn. He suggested Processing. Seems easy enough.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I didn't mean to sound like a jack, but you're right about the roms. I would love to create my own or better yet take a rom and change to my liking. But don't know how. These roms you guys make are awesome but its like I always want more and always love new updates or new roms.
I'm good with PSCS4 but not coding or even trying to create a rom. I would love to learn and create my own or mod someone elses rom. How?
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Check out this post bro, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756775
As long as you follow it step by step and don't do anything wrong it's actually kind of easy. Once I got everything installed and running it took me about 2 days to get my own 2.2 rom up and working (very fast and stable if I might add lol) which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963722
Now I'm working on a CM7 GingerBread rom for the Eris which will hopefully be done by the end of this week. Main thing you need to do is download the Oracle Virtual Machine and install Ubuntu on it. That first link I posted tells you how to do everything ! Try it out man, gotta start somewhere ! If you need any help with making yours, just let me know and I'll help to the best of my abilities !
Great news!
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Not so fast, Ranger Rick! They're developing on MANY levels. The Eris is still a big deal, okay? Okay
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this is great news and I am glad to read this! My Eris was my first Android phone and I am glad to see it is still being developed for! yeah!
The Eris is still alive according to Droid Life's article. We might get an OTA update. AWESOME. I still love my phone and love creating icons and putting ideas on it. Its just that every other phone is getting more attention and the Eris is in the back burner.
I'm still keeping mine.
The update is confirmed and people are already getting it. Justrelaxing on the Android Central forums has already got the update along with a few others. Here's the page, go to post #27
http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/286167-just-had-system-update-eris.html
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
This would also mean that x8, x10 mini and x10 mini pro will be obliged to receive further Android updates. Since the guidelines from google also include already released phones.
Since the Release of the mini/mini pro its almost a year so we would still have a few months left on our updates.
Lets hope SE decides to do it.
Is it not only for "new devices"?
On a german news site a read it will also include older devices. But i guess we will have to wait and see
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I hope that our X10 mini/pro will be also included in this
Official Gingerbread would be pretty nice, I'm thankful for nobodyatall's and the other developers work on their custom ROMS, right now the VGA-only camera and lack of Flash is the only thing stopping me from moving over to MiniCM7.
Hmm. This is very interesting and I can't believe Google is coming to our rescue (really they're just defending their business etc. but we benefit).
I notice in the article it does say new devices. But yes our Minis are still under SE's 2 year update. However, SE have bullshi**ted before about what these phones are capable of re: X10 dualtouch etc. then release it. But, our devices under SE's 2 years and the new Minis on 2.3 makes me think that there is still a chance. I've read some devs on here say that much will be different in the new Minis and porting the software in the future will likely not work, but I still think SE could port it themselves via an official 'generic' release like they did with the X10. Not telling us that now saves them 5million questions every day about when we get it. Let's hope something is leaked...I LOVE leaks...
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755
What are these April 2011 updates certified? Has anyone discussed them?...
Phoney, I think you'll be more than pleasantly surprised with the MiniCM7 ROM from Owain and Slade87. I've been using it for two weeks now and found the upgrade process very simple. The rom offers dual touch, access to the full 256mb of internal storage, very easy to put your apps onto sd, you can run it faster than the 600 Mhz specified by Sony, its a very stable rom.
Just make sure you do a backup first, you can always recover back to the standard SE rom, then you'll realise just how bad it is.
You'll turn your mini pro into a brand new, sexy rom for only a few hours (probably less than that) work.
I also use Owain and Slades Custom ROM and ist very Stable , Fast and works great
Its worth to update that rom!
And i think that SE will not bring bigger updates for us!! so Iam lucky that this community have so great DEVS
So big thx to Owain and Slade87
In my opinion, we should encourage SE to update our devices to gingerbread..
Personally I would only have a peak and probably return to the ROM I'm currently using (NobodyAtAll's CM7 ASOP). The main advantage i see here however is that things like full 5mp camera support etc.. would be much simpler to obtain if it just becomes a question of moving the various files and drivers from SE's 2.3.4 to NAA's or any other CM7/2.3 rom
i'd rather using your ROM slade , its alot better xD
means tat we will get the ginger bread?
that means that the old ones xperia will be very very stable with those new android firmwares?
Hell Yea!!
fathulwahab said:
i'd rather using your ROM slade , its alot better xD
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lo mismo digo yo
w00t! If they update us to GB or even Froyo, that means they will need to update the kernel to support functionality in the new versions. (e.g. tethering/iptables) Keeping my fingers crossed.
Unless I'm mistaken, that Google agreement mentioned ONLY NEW devices. There is no news, as far as I know right now, that this covers devices already released. I just thought I'd say this before people start blowing up balloons - there is absolutely no hint of 2.3 for our Minis by SE so I don't know where people get the excitement from.
I don't know whether you've read about the security issues regarding the vulnerability of the android phones
blogs.computerworld.com/18304/scary_android_security_hole_in_99_of_phones_panic?af[/url]
(sorry, can't post links yet)
but in whatever way google tackles this problem, this issue might prompt them to release further updates to every android phone. Article says only versions 2.3.4. or later are safe.
I read this indeed ^^^^ and I think Google is much more serious about updating than manufacturers. I don't know what kind of pressure they might exert on manufacturers to update recently released devices both because of this security issue (before 2.3) and because of that new 18 month agreement for updates. Here's hoping.
Hope we get updated...
I think they should hire owain and slade - that would solve lot of things
It's only for NEW devices and unfortunately SE doesn't say anything about us
dear all what is the best X10 mini pro in the market where all the features working ?? please advice... thanks
Each rom has its strenghts and weakness. You should try each one and see wich suits you best.
I've tried Paul's ROM's, they're pretty good. Sonystyle and MiniCM7.
Now I'm using slade's GinTonic and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
I will also give Eyama's roms a try (GingerDX annd Flame.E).
Go ahead and test them, I'm pretty sure one will suit your needs.
I hope someday they could all work togheter and make something like "xda oficial rom".
Hi
sorry but I got one question:
Why is everybody askin what the best rom may be?
These roms all got there features (read them in the related threads)
and they all got there advantages and minor bugs.
Everybody has his own meaning about those,
so please go out there and get your own
experience
If you are really interested you should
invest some time to get a feeling for your device and roms.
Peace
And if you really wanna know,
just open on of the thousand other threads sayin "What is the best rom"
ImInMunichBitch said:
Hi
sorry but I got one question:
Why is everybody askin what the best rom may be?
These roms all got there features (read them in the related threads)
and they all got there advantages and minor bugs.
Everybody has his own meaning about those,
so please go out there and get your own
experience
If you are really interested you should
invest some time to get a feeling for your device and roms.
Peace
And if you really wanna know,
just open on of the thousand other threads sayin "What is the best rom"
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I Agree with you, man. But sometimes its hard to know where to begin. I didnt want to install a lot of roms and every time have to install all softwares and reconfigure my phone. Its like formating you computer every week. :/
I just came into this post cos I was waiting somebody had answered his answer. Cos the ROM i installed on my mini pro is not good and wifi is not working properly, now i am trying another rom that seem to be better, but its still beta, it means that ill have some problems (hopefully not) and ill have to at least install the final version.
diegodacal said:
I Agree with you, man. But sometimes its hard to know where to begin. I didnt want to install a lot of roms and every time have to install all softwares and reconfigure my phone. Its like formating you computer every week. :/
I just came into this post cos I was waiting somebody had answered his answer. Cos the ROM i installed on my mini pro is not good and wifi is not working properly, now i am trying another rom that seem to be better, but its still beta, it means that ill have some problems (hopefully not) and ill have to at least install the final version.
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Are you tryin Flame.E beta ?
If you read the bug section and the features
of the roms you're thinkin they fit with you/your phone
you'll see that there are for now with Gingerbread not that
many bugs and there not as many reboots as before
And installing a new rom isn't that hard
if you workin with your recovery backup
So just read the latest posts in the dev section about the roms
and it'll be fine
Peace
I tried GingerDX, Flame.E (by Eyama), SonyStyle and MiniCM7 Pro ( by Paul). All is great but the best for me is MiniCM7 Pro.
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well guys, i asked this question for the same reason diegodacal said!
i wanna get rid of the stock ROM which is too slow and limited! i tried all the ROMs inside XDA related to X10 mini pro the issue is none of those ROMs is complete enough to continue with it. why developers in the X10 MINI Pro section don't combine their work and get one strong and bug free ROM version!
let's take as example of community work LINUX itself! the whole world Community is building Linux and now Linux is one of the most advanced and powerful OS!
i wish i can contribute with all other developers in XDA together united to build a super ROM for each device running Android.
for the moment, the best ROM that i tested it and found it somewhat suitable to my need but not fully functional is the GinTonic SE of Slade87.
To combine all the developer work
would be awesome, but this is left to the developers
for the moment, the best ROM that i tested it and found it somewhat suitable to my need but not fully functional is the GinTonic SE of Slade87.
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All is great but the best for me is MiniCM7 Pro.
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You see it yourself
It's what I said.
Everybody needs another rom for him
For example me:
I love Flame.E by Eyama and I hope it gets to final version soon
Just read about the roms in the posts.
May take an hour but then you can decide by yourself
which rom you think fits you best
Peace
ImInMunichBitch said:
To combine all the developer work
would be awesome, but this is left to the developers
You see it yourself
It's what I said.
Everybody needs another rom for him
For example me:
I love Flame.E by Eyama and I hope it gets to final version soon
Just read about the roms in the posts.
May take an hour but then you can decide by yourself
which rom you think fits you best
Peace
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well man i'm all the time with the Open Source Programming as i'm also a Software Engineer and i know the benefit of Open Source. To have a strong open source software you need to combine efforts.
i wish the other developers here read this too. combining efforts i mean we all discuss what kernel and baseband we take for development and then start to develop our unified Roms all together around those requirements.
well do you think that MiniCM7 Pro is good enough to try it??
If you won't try, you don't know it ;-)
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Hi there,
as i was reading about the release of the Android 4.0 source code i´m asking myself how long will it take until we have a custom ROM based on android 4.0!
Are some crews already working on it?
Please give me a feedback when you can!
we will get the roms when we get the roms. CM9 should be out soon now that they have the code, which they said they needed to start production, so possibly when we have that, our devs can start punching out some roms. also, in the ICS thinktank on the development page and for example the nexus s forum, they are working on the touchscreen drivers so that they can test more components of the rom.
just be patient
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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touch screen is not working only physical buttons are working.
Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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Official CM support has stopped for the X8 and X10mini/mini pro, since 2.3.7 is the best thing that those phones can handle...and the aftermarket support for X10 would end soon I believe, maybe right after the stable mod comes out.
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all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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What you need to do is:
1. Find an easy way to contact SE. E-mail perhaps.
2. Come back after finding out information and post up a thread that suggests a specific date for all X10 users to e-mail at once.
3.Within the timeframe between the day the thread went up and the dealine, Spam the shiit out of this movement. Get some people to help you. (I will help you if you get it started)
All you have to do is trigger this bro and we can set this ***** on fire. Believe that brah! Peace.
darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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Can you please stop acting like a six-year-old who is begging his parents to but him a toy?
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darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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Someone is spamming this
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Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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If the touchscreen isn't working, how would we use the phone? And we are working cyanogenmod, ever heard of the FXP CM7 ROM that's the official one.
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aR_ChRiS said:
Official CM support has stopped for the X8 and X10mini/mini pro, since 2.3.7 is the best thing that those phones can handle...and the aftermarket support for X10 would end soon I believe, maybe right after the stable mod comes out.
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And i think many phones will be dropped out from the official support list too, such as HTC Wildfire[this thing dont even have a gpu!], Hero, Legend, Aria...
I hope ics will soon release source code for x10, I heard today on the release source code ics, is it true
EffectX said:
If the touchscreen isn't working, how would we use the phone? And we are working cyanogenmod, ever heard of the FXP CM7 ROM that's the official one.
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The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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When all the bugs are gone, it will be released as stable.
Go join the bug hunt if you want it faster...
It's highly unlikely that we will ever get a fully stable Android 4.0 rom, for the reasons listed elsewhere in these fora. We may get ports, but they will take time, and lots of it.
Be patient and don't ask for ETAs.
Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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It's not based on anything, they are literally making a rom with sources that they are writing. That's why it took ages compared to other ported roms.
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Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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Actually the rom is very stable for daily use with very minor bugs that they are working on. if you have lost faith in a device that is 2 years old with no support now from SE heres some advice, get a new phone! but for the rest of us who enjoy having such a great array of developers that very capable of bringing us support when we need it. Yes Z has done alot for the X10, but dont forget other devs and dont just focus on one.
First rule of CM7: Dont ask for an ETA! you must be patient like with anything. If google and samsung released ICS earlier, imagine what we would be missing.
Well clearly CM7 isnt based on 4.0, cos the source code has only been released to us. you cant expect every dev to be up day and night sitting at there pc waiting for the code, they are real people with real lifes.
Well if your going to stay with the X10, please for the love of god, stop complaining about how we havent got ICS roms yet when no other devices has a nearly stable one yet.
kthnxbai
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What you need to do is:
1. Find an easy way to contact SE. E-mail perhaps.
2. Come back after finding out information and post up a thread that suggests a specific date for all X10 users to e-mail at once.
3.Within the timeframe between the day the thread went up and the dealine, Spam the shiit out of this movement. Get some people to help you. (I will help you if you get it started)
All you have to do is trigger this bro and we can set this ***** on fire. Believe that brah! Peace.
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i'll find a way to contact se and post a thread later.
thanks for helping
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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First, it's quite hard to port 4.0 onto our X10 since we have a really old kernel (.29), not to mention whether our hardware can handle that or not...
Second, the FXP team's goal is to get the X10 up to CM specs so that we can have as much official CM support as we want until the newest android versions become too much for the X10 to handle.
And don't even try to say that most of the devs here are below eighteen, because most of them aren't and have a proper job. If you are looking for child labour to develop your device you're at the wrong forum.
Olli80 said:
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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What we have: an almost stable CM7 ROM.
What we can expect for the future: a fully stable CM7 ROM.
What we -might- get: an ICS ROM that probably won't ever be stable.
By the way, what is an X10 ARC? Never heard of that device before.
Assuming that you mean the Arc, there are huge differences between the X10 and the Arc. It will probably not even be practical to try and port ICS from it.
The devs are working on "outdated" CM7 because it is most likely to become fully stable after some work. If they start working on ICS now, they won't have a fully stable CM7 ROM to help them. CM9, based on ICS, isn't even released yet, so do elaborate on what you meant when you said the mod they were working on was outdated. There isn't even any phones with ICS yet...
By describing the devs as under 18s with little coding experience you are actually being extremely naive and disrespectful. Go have a chat with aZuZu or DooMLord about kernels, you'll see what I mean. I don't know if that's what you were intending, but you sound quite rude.
Building a working, let alone stable, ICS ROM, or any ROM for that matter, is not easy. It takes time to build, test, find bugs and iron them out.
Also, for your information, a handful of devs are already working on an ICS port alongside their current projects. Have a quick look in the dev section.
I hope you see my point now.
As many of you might have noticed, I've been pushing lots of MiniCM sources the last days. ICS is done and JB is on its way.
I'd like to take this opportunity and invite other developers or members that would like to contribute patches to do so. We already have some people contributing code for MiniCM and I would like to see more joining in. The code is available at: https://github.com/MiniCM
Why do this now?
This arch is reaching its limit as far as android development is concerned and there is too much ROM fragmentation for an old phone like this.
I know that most of the ROMs around are already using MiniCM binaries or sources and I'm ok with that. However, now is the time to consider contributing back and helping this project.
MiniCM is a fork of CM dedicated for these old phones. Notice that we are never gonna have official CM support, this is actually the cause that MiniCM serves
Licensing
I decided to keep my modifications Apache licensed. This is what gave android such a rapid development and I'd say has proven successful so far
I'd like to see this thread being used for Development ideas and solutions. NOT by user spamming (which will get you banned soon anyway since this thread is mod-monitored - you've been warned).
Reserving for build instructions
I can try to do option for disable/enable display button, but i'm not sure that i can do it
Lets keep this thread clean and on topic, as the OP has requested
We (the mods) will have a close eye on things, so lets not have any nonsense :good:
AChep said:
I can try to do option for disable/enable display button, but i'm not sure that i can do it
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You mean the navigation bar right?
See this: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/20726/
nobodyAtall said:
You mean the navigation bar right?
See this: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/20726/
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Oooppss, hour of my time wasted Cyanogen guys are fast
FAQ of course
and remember, for each version (miniCM7,9 and 10) there is a dedicated FAQ
that you can find here
I have a little idea. Many users of X8 and X10 Mini/Mini Pro uses stock kernel and can't unlock bootloader. I tried to make an addon to boot MiniCM7 based ROM's on stock, but still without success. With your help, nobodyAtall and other users, we can make such addon. I'm too unexperienced yet to do this by myself. What are your thoughts?
eagleeyetom said:
I have a little idea. Many users of X8 and X10 Mini/Mini Pro uses stock kernel and can't unlock bootloader. I tried to make an addon to boot MiniCM7 based ROM's on stock, but still without success. With your help, nobodyAtall and other users, we can make such addon. I'm too unexperienced yet to do this by myself. What are your thoughts?
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Hi eagleeyetom,
Unfortunately stock kernel is VERY outdated to be usable in modern ROMs (e.g. gingerbread onwards).
In essence, one would have to replace the kgsl system to get the graphics to work decently with latest adreno blobs. Also I'm not sure if usb would be working since this too is outdated.
Other things to note: RAM (175MB if I remember correctly) is desperately low for modern Android versions, performance would also not be good enough for daily use. Kernel-side, I'm doing my best to boost performance as much as possible by backporting almost all of the main components that android uses from later versions.
All in all, for gingerbread it would be possible with serious performance sacrifices which I'm not willing to accept (even as a user). For ICS/JB, just forget it.
Perhaps a good project would be to make bootloader unlocking work for recent devices...
I understand your concerns and also think that stock is utter piece of crap, but it's still worth a shot. Such universal patch would improve development to our old shakiras. Your MiniCM is way better than official CM - really great job. Even with these bugs you've mention it's better than spent cash to unlock bootloader. I really admire the work of Alf and you - it's amazing to have such modern kernels to over-two-years-old devices.
Worse performance is a fact, but the ability to use almost every CM7 ROM on stock is tempting. This would be a great contribution to our small community.
P.S. I also think that you should have Elite Recognized Developer title. Such good work should be appreciated.
eagleeyetom said:
I understand your concerns and also think that stock is utter piece of crap, but it's still worth a shot. Such universal patch would improve development to our old shakiras. Your MiniCM is way better than official CM - really great job. Even with these bugs you've mention it's better than spent cash to unlock bootloader. I really admire the work of Alf and you - it's amazing to have such modern kernels to over-two-years-old devices.
Worse performance is a fact, but the ability to use almost every CM7 ROM on stock is tempting. This would be a great contribution to our small community.
P.S. I also think that you should have Elite Recognized Developer title. Such good work should be appreciated.
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I see what you mean. Gingerbread compatibility is feasible BUT is gonna be pretty slow - in fact REALLY slow compared to MiniCM7.
We try to give a top quality ROM, so if this would ever happen it would be like a flashable zip and totally unsupported
I hope a lot pf devs will join the development. Cause everybody is working alone and if you all work together, it will bbe better for you and all ROM users. You'll develop quicker and easier.
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nAa, is there a chance we can have CWM 6.XX on our GB kernels ?
RohinZaraki said:
nAa, is there a chance we can have CWM 6.XX on our GB kernels ?
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I think it is possible, you can try it yourself, because you are able to change the recovery of the Kernel
actually it's possible. you just need to change the recovery file in the ramdisk with the one from JBMiniProject kernel or with one you compiled.
Why do not use the "Camera ICS+" in the market to replace the default camera app instead of taking a lot of time to fix the camera ???
LEDelete said:
Why do not use the "Camera ICS+" in the market to replace the default camera app instead of taking a lot of time to fix the camera ???
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nAa roms are pure CM roms custom built for our device. If you see there is no third party apps. Not in GB and ICS and neither in JB.
RohinZaraki said:
nAa, is there a chance we can have CWM 6.XX on our GB kernels ?
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I was trying something similar last night but with FroyoPro25.. Trying to get usb tethering working in it..
Can you all focus on GB please?
Working on ICS and JB is useless because they will never work smoothly on these old phones
shvelo said:
Can you all focus on GB please?
Working on ICS and JB is useless because they will never work smoothly on these old phones
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And what has left on GB to be developed? How can we improve it?
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