New Google Guidelines for Android updates - SE is in the boat - Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
This would also mean that x8, x10 mini and x10 mini pro will be obliged to receive further Android updates. Since the guidelines from google also include already released phones.
Since the Release of the mini/mini pro its almost a year so we would still have a few months left on our updates.
Lets hope SE decides to do it.

Is it not only for "new devices"?

On a german news site a read it will also include older devices. But i guess we will have to wait and see
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I hope that our X10 mini/pro will be also included in this

Official Gingerbread would be pretty nice, I'm thankful for nobodyatall's and the other developers work on their custom ROMS, right now the VGA-only camera and lack of Flash is the only thing stopping me from moving over to MiniCM7.

Hmm. This is very interesting and I can't believe Google is coming to our rescue (really they're just defending their business etc. but we benefit).
I notice in the article it does say new devices. But yes our Minis are still under SE's 2 year update. However, SE have bullshi**ted before about what these phones are capable of re: X10 dualtouch etc. then release it. But, our devices under SE's 2 years and the new Minis on 2.3 makes me think that there is still a chance. I've read some devs on here say that much will be different in the new Minis and porting the software in the future will likely not work, but I still think SE could port it themselves via an official 'generic' release like they did with the X10. Not telling us that now saves them 5million questions every day about when we get it. Let's hope something is leaked...I LOVE leaks...
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755
What are these April 2011 updates certified? Has anyone discussed them?...

Phoney, I think you'll be more than pleasantly surprised with the MiniCM7 ROM from Owain and Slade87. I've been using it for two weeks now and found the upgrade process very simple. The rom offers dual touch, access to the full 256mb of internal storage, very easy to put your apps onto sd, you can run it faster than the 600 Mhz specified by Sony, its a very stable rom.
Just make sure you do a backup first, you can always recover back to the standard SE rom, then you'll realise just how bad it is.
You'll turn your mini pro into a brand new, sexy rom for only a few hours (probably less than that) work.

I also use Owain and Slades Custom ROM and ist very Stable , Fast and works great
Its worth to update that rom!
And i think that SE will not bring bigger updates for us!! so Iam lucky that this community have so great DEVS
So big thx to Owain and Slade87

In my opinion, we should encourage SE to update our devices to gingerbread..
Personally I would only have a peak and probably return to the ROM I'm currently using (NobodyAtAll's CM7 ASOP). The main advantage i see here however is that things like full 5mp camera support etc.. would be much simpler to obtain if it just becomes a question of moving the various files and drivers from SE's 2.3.4 to NAA's or any other CM7/2.3 rom

i'd rather using your ROM slade , its alot better xD

means tat we will get the ginger bread?

that means that the old ones xperia will be very very stable with those new android firmwares?
Hell Yea!!

fathulwahab said:
i'd rather using your ROM slade , its alot better xD
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lo mismo digo yo

w00t! If they update us to GB or even Froyo, that means they will need to update the kernel to support functionality in the new versions. (e.g. tethering/iptables) Keeping my fingers crossed.

Unless I'm mistaken, that Google agreement mentioned ONLY NEW devices. There is no news, as far as I know right now, that this covers devices already released. I just thought I'd say this before people start blowing up balloons - there is absolutely no hint of 2.3 for our Minis by SE so I don't know where people get the excitement from.

I don't know whether you've read about the security issues regarding the vulnerability of the android phones
blogs.computerworld.com/18304/scary_android_security_hole_in_99_of_phones_panic?af[/url]
(sorry, can't post links yet)
but in whatever way google tackles this problem, this issue might prompt them to release further updates to every android phone. Article says only versions 2.3.4. or later are safe.

I read this indeed ^^^^ and I think Google is much more serious about updating than manufacturers. I don't know what kind of pressure they might exert on manufacturers to update recently released devices both because of this security issue (before 2.3) and because of that new 18 month agreement for updates. Here's hoping.

Hope we get updated...

I think they should hire owain and slade - that would solve lot of things

It's only for NEW devices and unfortunately SE doesn't say anything about us

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Xperia X10 Quesstion

Noob here. Long time on XDA, beginner in Android.
I haven't looked much here nor read much because this came up just today and don't have much time (so please don't bash, rather help me, thank you).
I have been looking forward to switch to Android but have not found a good priced phone within my price range. Today I stumbled across an Xperia X10 and I don't want it to slip away as within my price range.
Did a few readings on specs and it comes with Android 1.6.
Is the Xperia X10 upgradable to 2.1 or 2.2 Froyo(soon)?
Thank you for you help.
Bteljuice
Devs are working on custom bootloader and seem to be making good progress, currently the answer is no, but soon hopefully custom roms will be out.
Also Sony Ericsson will be releasing 2.1 by September
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Thank you NightSide for the quick reply.
Yes, I did read that in Q4, Sony will release 2.1 for all X10 series. But I thought that has something to do with the UI sony has.
However, there's something I don't get. Most 1GHz Android devices in the market will have upgrades to 2.2 Froyo in OCT and NOV. Why won't X10 as well.
One more very important question that I missed. Does the X10 have Multitouch? or will it be enable when 2.1 is available? Pinch to zoom, rotate etc.. Very important for me
I hate to say it, but if you are indieed a long time on XDA, then you'd know to search first... All your questions have been debated in the forum a number of times...
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I hate to say it, but if you are indieed a long time on XDA, then you'd know to search first... All your questions have been debated in the forum a number of times...
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When I opened the thread, I didnt have time to search. I NEEDED IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, which i got, thank you NightSide.
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
And it wouldn't have hurt my friend, to be nice and answer few of my questions. After all, we are here to help and I did say in my first post why I couldn't search.
Bteljuice
bteljuice said:
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
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Yup... you're right on that. Just rumors...
I thought it was confirmed that X10 would not be able to support DT or MT at all as it ain't just the s/w part but rather the h/w plays a role as well. And X10 don't have the h/w to do so... this is what I read... could be wrong.
Nonetheless, this is still a great phone for me. Sure there are 'flaws' here and there but nothing major. 'Upgraded' from X1... and not regretting it...
If you have a deal that fits your budget.... (if I were you) go get it...
bteljuice said:
When I opened the thread, I didnt have time to search. I NEEDED IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, which i got, thank you NightSide.
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
And it wouldn't have hurt my friend, to be nice and answer few of my questions. After all, we are here to help and I did say in my first post why I couldn't search.
Bteljuice
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Agreed, however you will find (if you search) that the answers to your questions are both yes and no... all you're really starting is another thread debating whether multitouch is or is not possible, and whether SE will go to 2.2 in the near future.
That aside, 2.1 is confirmed for Q4 - the rest, rumours, speculation, debate... but apart from that...
bteljuice said:
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
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I remember reading from some dev thread that there indeed are drivers for multitouch in the kernel, but they are disabled or something. I'm pretty sure it will be investigated after we get custom roms etc.
Also note that the update to 2.1 is scheduled for Q3 not Q4, so it's coming earlier than you initially thought. There is however another update coming to enhance the SE UXP or whatever ie Timescape and Mediascape, that is scheduled for Q4 and is supposed to bring 720p video recording as well as media broadcasting on your TV...something like that.
ooidort said:
I remember reading from some dev thread that there indeed are drivers for multitouch in the kernel, but they are disabled or something. I'm pretty sure it will be investigated after we get custom roms etc.
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that's my understanding as well...the G1 went through something similar no??
*Mod please move this thread to General and out of Dev
MT/DT .. rumors.
We need custom roms to verify if it can be enabled by 3rd party but no custom roms yet.
Until then, if you don't want to be disappointed, consider that X10 doesn't have it.
2.1 was delayed it seems to Q4, i've read it on SE blog.
Some examples of user benefits that will be included in the UXP upgrade for Xperia™ X10 in Q4 2010 are:
- Upgrade to Android OS version 2.1
- HD video recording as per the same execution as Sony Ericsson Vivaz™
- Wireless home connectivity via DLNA
- Improvements to signature applications Timescape™ and Mediascape to make them even smarter and richer
The upgrade will be made available to consumers through the update service at www.sonyericsson.com
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Source: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/05/05/sony-ericsson-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010/
2.2 MIGHT come somewhere in 2011 if SE will still support the phone
For 2.2 our best hope are the XDA devs.
tuxStyle said:
MT/DT .. rumors.
We need custom roms to verify if it can be enabled by 3rd party but no custom roms yet.
Until then, if you don't want to be disappointed, consider that X10 doesn't have it.
2.1 was delayed it seems to Q4, i've read it on SE blog.
Source: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/05/05/sony-ericsson-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010/
2.2 MIGHT come somewhere in 2011 if SE will still support the phone
For 2.2 our best hope are the XDA devs.
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"...This entry was posted on Wednesday, May 5th, 2010..."
I also took the plunge on Andriod> I've been a long time HTC HD user using custom rom and it came to a point where i needed an upgrade. Choose x10 because of its hardware potential even though most reviews commented on laggy screen response, i need not worry because i know the excellent chefs here are more than capable of turning this phone into something special

2.1 update now at the end of October

Looks like the update's been pushed back by a month
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/
But at least they list what the update will actually contain:
Xperia X10 mini and X10 mini pro:
Improved Bluetooth functionality with support for sending and receiving pictures, contacts and more
New backup and restore application with extended content back up
Automatic synchronization of your contact pictures between Facebook and your phone book
Improved ways of handling pictures, audio, text and numbers in your messages
Upgrade of the Android platform to Android platform 2.1
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I hope you can turn off the facebook photo syncing - I really don't want pictures of people's cats, babies and favourite movie stars as their contact pictures when I've already picked photos for them.
I am sad
Unbelievable.
The comments on the blog page are pretty funny though!
Hundreds of people crying about never buying a SE again
To be honest the 2.1 update doesn't really do much for these phones. However it is obvious that SE didn't give too much attention to the fact that using Android meant that their timeplans would be compared against those of many other Android licensors. Also I think they underestimated that a large part of the Android community is made of geeks. They are used to selling phones to people who don't even know what an operating system is.
In reality this delay means almost nothing but it's a PR disaster.
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Also I think they underestimated that a large part of the Android community is made of geeks.
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Totally agree with you !
lol - for undemanding users, Apple have sewn up that segment of smartphone users. Maybe RIM too. Symbian.. are they smartphones/will they be around much longer?
But Windows & Android require more maintenance. As a SE owner for the last 5? years, I can attest to their serial ability to miss deadlines.
However, this is new for them, the need to sew on their interface to a constantly evolving OS. So expect more missed deadlines, and slow adoption of 2.2
But I can't say I'm surprised...
I am not an Android expert but if that GUI stuff they have done is so difficult to port from 1.6 to 2.1 then they must have taken very poor decisions when developing the software. Look at the Android Market: 95% of the applications will run on any version from 1.6 to 2.2 without even the need to recompile the code.
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Also I think they underestimated that a large part of the Android community is made of geeks.
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Actually theres a few "geeks" in the SE JAVA community side as well, that like modding their phones so it looks like its an android (and thats just for starters )
Over here I still haven't got the previous update, 1.2-whatever, so I'm not holding my breath any way
Pfff
Pfff My unbranded HTC Hero had eclair (android 2.1) installed almost a year ago. And yes also HTC had official problems with release dates for 2.1.
I,m disappointed that SE also shifts up their 2.1 update. but the lack of custom Roms (think it's SE's popularity. Wil revert me back to HTC again as soon as I buy a new phone again.
Yes this is a big disappointment. When i compare my previous HTC Windows phone, the updates were quicker, and also the custom roms made things alot more interesting. I will be buying Android again, but not from SE.
the most of other android smartphone has already 2.1 or 2.2, in december gingerbread will be realesed and so SE 2.1 will be outdated..
SE really disappointed me..
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Yes this is a big disappointment. When i compare my previous HTC Windows phone, the updates were quicker, and also the custom roms made things alot more interesting. I will be buying Android again, but not from SE.
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Updates were quicker?? I had 2 WM phones, a Prophet and my current X1, and NO updates were forthcoming. I was saved only by the excellent work of the cooks here.
I like my X10 Mini even with 1.6.
It runs faster and is more stable than my Galaxy S with 2.1.
Maybe we are overcrying this release delay. Our phone is not unusable, other companies are delaying even more. I have seen in the blogs people crying like they have an non-usable phone. The only real problem is the Sim issue that in some countries they have adresses in some others not.
In reality our community want just to change firmware and this is why we are here in xda.
I am also annoyed, I am also willing to update my firmware every month...but for this we need the support of our chefs.
By the way i understand that a SW planning can deviate; in our company we have just postponed a release by one month.
I agree that the communication was bad, they could even have released an interim version for us the geek.
This is just MHO
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What features are you missing right now? I think the x10 can do all i need it too with 1.6.
Hello XDA community!
My account is new but I have viewed this forum up to 2 weeks by now. Also I'm a new owner of X10 mini. And I think it is almost great phone, nice camera, good video quality for little phone and I can make calls and sms. Compared to my old E51 this phone rocks! To me those 2.1's and 1.6's are just a numbers. I can do everything I want to do and I don't miss anything. No lag etc. I don't get why, just why are people flaming SE...Yes I know it was a mistake to promise something what they can't to. Well I'm also waiting for update, but I'm not so curious about it.
Maybe my english is not so good as it should be but I think that you understand my text.
Regards,
wiilweer
SE posting here above
I'm not from SE. I'm just regular phone user not a Android "geek". Got it ?
you having wrong phone in your hand.....Smart phone is not only for call,sms,camera..its more than that.

[Q] Will our phone see 2.2 and beyond?

Hello,
We all know that the 2.1 update is near. My question is is it possible for our phones to be upgraded to 2.2 and beyond? Are x10 minis capable in terms of hardware (and software) to be upgraded to later Android versions, assuming that SE unlocks the bootloader (if they don't release an update, we'll just have to do it ourselves right?). I have read somewhere that some android phones will not see 2.1 and beyond and will be stuck with 1.6 forever. I hope our minis are capable since I am planning to own this phone for atleast 2 years....
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Hello,
We all know that the 2.1 update is near. My question is is it possible for our phones to be upgraded to 2.2 and beyond? Are x10 minis capable in terms of hardware (and software) to be upgraded to later Android versions, assuming that SE unlocks the bootloader (if they don't release an update, we'll just have to do it ourselves right?). I have read somewhere that some android phones will not see 2.1 and beyond and will be stuck with 1.6 forever. I hope our minis are capable since I am planning to own this phone for atleast 2 years....
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2.1 update is confirmed from SE. x10 minis are capable of 2.2(froyo) but not the next release gingerbread. lets keep the fingers crossed that, developers unlocks the bootloader soon.
yes unlock boot loader.... plz, so we can update ourselves, to something better then what SE can do, what does sony loose by releasing the details?
I like the phone i dont like how their are so many apps im missing out on cause im stuck on 1.6 and the app needs 2.1
They have alot of reasons to keep their software protected. Not that I agree with their views, but they probably want to protect their software from piracy, seeing 3rd party apps replace their own, being able to control a part of the software on the phone, etc. etc.
Previously i owned an HTC phone, which will be the next one again. Not only for sense which imho is very nice, but also because of all the available software to costumize your phone just like you want it to be.
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i mean the whole point of the development of applications is to make the phone yours. the moment a company relies that then the end user can have a lot of fun and make it stand out from everyone else's.
Lets hope the Bootloader is unlocked and someone develops a 2.2 ROM for it(Maybe copied from Wildfire as it gets 2.2 soon)
I agree we require 2.1, but in all reality the need for 2.2 is overly exagerated (apart from the slight performance boost). I'd rather have a fast browser than a buggy one which takes forever just to load a page.
Some of you gents obviously don't follow the HTC, Samsung, Motorola blogs otherwise you'd quickly realize how many bugs they're riddled with.
Give me a stable X10/mini/pro any day of the week.
I agree we need stable over buggy. Sony might be slow with the updates but it seems to be stable. maybe with this update they will be sloppy and make a mistake with the code in the boot loader that we can exploit
My guess is that SE will unlock the bootloader once the x10 family gets outdated and they have other models to develop updates.
BTW, just curious, have you any idea if once we've updated to 2.1, will the exploid root method or one-click root still work? Or, do we even need to unroot our devices to update to 2.1 using PC companion?
updating through seus/ota will most likely wipe all data from the phone, while I'm sure SE will implement security features to prevent us using "universal root" or flashing back to a 1.6 rom. So in answer to your question : No the exploid method will no longer work effectively.
Your options are:
Update the phone once 2.1 is released and wait for developers to root the phone again
Don't update and wait for developers to find a workaround which lets you update the phone with 2.1 but still keep the root.
Wait for the bootloader to be hacked on 1.6. Again this means not updating the phone when 2.1 come out.
At the moment I'm leaning toward the second option but I guess I'll wait and see what the feedback on 2.1 is like.
Contrarian said:
updating through seus/ota will most likely wipe all data from the phone, while I'm sure SE will implement security features to prevent us using "universal root" or flashing back to a 1.6 rom. So in answer to your question : No the exploid method will no longer work effectively.
Your options are:
Update the phone once 2.1 is released and wait for developers to root the phone again
Don't update and wait for developers to find a workaround which lets you update the phone with 2.1 but still keep the root.
Wait for the bootloader to be hacked on 1.6. Again this means not updating the phone when 2.1 come out.
At the moment I'm leaning toward the second option but I guess I'll wait and see what the feedback on 2.1 is like.
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If that is the case, I might also choose the second option because I don't want to have to install and set all the apps and tweaking I did on my phone now. I'm sure devs can make a way so that we can go back to 1.6 after we've upgraded to 2.1.
I'll probably play with 2.1 and wait for the dev's to root 2.1 who knows they might be sloppy with the boot loader for 2.1
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I just hope the bootloader gets cracked fast, as I do not trust SE with their updates. It's much more reliable to wait for someone here to make something useful for this phone, than to desperately ask SE to do something, and most of the times just get disappointed with the end result.
The main problem of this phone is, in my person opinion, that the main developers do not own or have much interest in it.
Not many people use it, and we can see by the frequency of the posts on this forum that it's mostly a second phone or a phone for our wife’s / girlfriends, etc.
If it had more popularity, the bootloader would probably already be cracked.
Just my 2 euro cents, hehe
Johev said:
The main problem of this phone is, in my person opinion, that the main developers do not own or have much interest in it.
Not many people use it, and we can see by the frequency of the posts on this forum that it's mostly a second phone or a phone for our wife’s / girlfriends, etc.
If it had more popularity, the bootloader would probably already be cracked.
Just my 2 euro cents, hehe
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I think you are right, this phone is not as popular as x10i. Plus since this phone is mostly secondry device/budget phone. The donation incentive is not pretty attractive.. May be if we can get enough donations, we can attract devs to crack it..
But I could be wrong on this observation..
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er.. thats a big NO for 2.2 on X10, mini/pro and X8 :(

http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/01/06/official-xperia-x10-family-will-not-receive-upgrade-to-froyo-or-beyond/
Well.. looks like SE are writing off the entire X10 line in favor of their new devices running 2.3 coming out later this year, so thats a big NO from sony ericsson about getting 2.2.. ever!
Lets hope the DEV's can cook something up..
COME ON SE RELEASE THE BOOT LOADER ALREADY!!!!!!!! (if your not gonna support us, let us support ourselves!)
Great.
But think about it. It could be worse (they would even downgrade our phones if they could)
Regards, D_d
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Great.
But think about it. It could be worse (they would even downgrade our phones if they could)
Regards, D_d
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If only they could.. oh wait.. the last update? loosing root.. I would call that a downgrade.. just wait for the next one.. it will magic our phones back to 1.6!
if people stopped playing with these make shift Roms and actually concentrated on hacking the bootloader we might actually get 2.2 or even 2.3.. seems everyone has given up tho and settled for backup style roms.. looks like SE has won
(even so.. I am looking forward to the new mini replacement with 1Ghz processor, X8 size screen and Gingerbread...mmm.. droooool.. call me a sucker for punishment)
that sucks, but i still love my x10 mini, this is my first android phone and thanks to xda, im getting brave enough to play with it...
xperia10.net is a untrustable source.
that was a good step from xperia10.net
they do the rumor, and wait for SE to official deny it or confirm it.
I would say few days to have official information on this
I do quote my own first line of this post...
On a positive note, it seems we will get ANT+ support on the X10 mini/pro and X8. Seems like the hardware is in place, they will now add the needed software support.
I for one like this more than an version bump for android. All applications I want to use run on 2.1 (this was not so when it was only at 1.6). And having ANT+ in the future is very nice. I already own a couple ANT+ devices as I sport a lot..
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xperia10.net is a untrustable source.
that was a good step from xperia10.net
they do the rumor, and wait for SE to official deny it or confirm it.
I would say few days to have official information on this
I do quote my own first line of this post...
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It has been confirmed officially by Rikard Skogberg in se product launch blog.
They can still change their mind after all complaints but i've lost hope
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It has been confirmed officially by Rikard Skogberg in se product launch blog.
They can still change their mind after all complaints but i've lost hope
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where is the official link?
it was tweeted yesterday
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[Q] Android 4.0 Custom ROMs?

Hi there,
as i was reading about the release of the Android 4.0 source code i´m asking myself how long will it take until we have a custom ROM based on android 4.0!
Are some crews already working on it?
Please give me a feedback when you can!
we will get the roms when we get the roms. CM9 should be out soon now that they have the code, which they said they needed to start production, so possibly when we have that, our devs can start punching out some roms. also, in the ICS thinktank on the development page and for example the nexus s forum, they are working on the touchscreen drivers so that they can test more components of the rom.
just be patient
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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touch screen is not working only physical buttons are working.
Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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Official CM support has stopped for the X8 and X10mini/mini pro, since 2.3.7 is the best thing that those phones can handle...and the aftermarket support for X10 would end soon I believe, maybe right after the stable mod comes out.
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all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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What you need to do is:
1. Find an easy way to contact SE. E-mail perhaps.
2. Come back after finding out information and post up a thread that suggests a specific date for all X10 users to e-mail at once.
3.Within the timeframe between the day the thread went up and the dealine, Spam the shiit out of this movement. Get some people to help you. (I will help you if you get it started)
All you have to do is trigger this bro and we can set this ***** on fire. Believe that brah! Peace.
darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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Can you please stop acting like a six-year-old who is begging his parents to but him a toy?
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darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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Someone is spamming this
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Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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If the touchscreen isn't working, how would we use the phone? And we are working cyanogenmod, ever heard of the FXP CM7 ROM that's the official one.
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aR_ChRiS said:
Official CM support has stopped for the X8 and X10mini/mini pro, since 2.3.7 is the best thing that those phones can handle...and the aftermarket support for X10 would end soon I believe, maybe right after the stable mod comes out.
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And i think many phones will be dropped out from the official support list too, such as HTC Wildfire[this thing dont even have a gpu!], Hero, Legend, Aria...
I hope ics will soon release source code for x10, I heard today on the release source code ics, is it true
EffectX said:
If the touchscreen isn't working, how would we use the phone? And we are working cyanogenmod, ever heard of the FXP CM7 ROM that's the official one.
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The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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When all the bugs are gone, it will be released as stable.
Go join the bug hunt if you want it faster...
It's highly unlikely that we will ever get a fully stable Android 4.0 rom, for the reasons listed elsewhere in these fora. We may get ports, but they will take time, and lots of it.
Be patient and don't ask for ETAs.
Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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It's not based on anything, they are literally making a rom with sources that they are writing. That's why it took ages compared to other ported roms.
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Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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Actually the rom is very stable for daily use with very minor bugs that they are working on. if you have lost faith in a device that is 2 years old with no support now from SE heres some advice, get a new phone! but for the rest of us who enjoy having such a great array of developers that very capable of bringing us support when we need it. Yes Z has done alot for the X10, but dont forget other devs and dont just focus on one.
First rule of CM7: Dont ask for an ETA! you must be patient like with anything. If google and samsung released ICS earlier, imagine what we would be missing.
Well clearly CM7 isnt based on 4.0, cos the source code has only been released to us. you cant expect every dev to be up day and night sitting at there pc waiting for the code, they are real people with real lifes.
Well if your going to stay with the X10, please for the love of god, stop complaining about how we havent got ICS roms yet when no other devices has a nearly stable one yet.
kthnxbai
Mr.Quipster said:
What you need to do is:
1. Find an easy way to contact SE. E-mail perhaps.
2. Come back after finding out information and post up a thread that suggests a specific date for all X10 users to e-mail at once.
3.Within the timeframe between the day the thread went up and the dealine, Spam the shiit out of this movement. Get some people to help you. (I will help you if you get it started)
All you have to do is trigger this bro and we can set this ***** on fire. Believe that brah! Peace.
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i'll find a way to contact se and post a thread later.
thanks for helping
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
Olli80 said:
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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First, it's quite hard to port 4.0 onto our X10 since we have a really old kernel (.29), not to mention whether our hardware can handle that or not...
Second, the FXP team's goal is to get the X10 up to CM specs so that we can have as much official CM support as we want until the newest android versions become too much for the X10 to handle.
And don't even try to say that most of the devs here are below eighteen, because most of them aren't and have a proper job. If you are looking for child labour to develop your device you're at the wrong forum.
Olli80 said:
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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What we have: an almost stable CM7 ROM.
What we can expect for the future: a fully stable CM7 ROM.
What we -might- get: an ICS ROM that probably won't ever be stable.
By the way, what is an X10 ARC? Never heard of that device before.
Assuming that you mean the Arc, there are huge differences between the X10 and the Arc. It will probably not even be practical to try and port ICS from it.
The devs are working on "outdated" CM7 because it is most likely to become fully stable after some work. If they start working on ICS now, they won't have a fully stable CM7 ROM to help them. CM9, based on ICS, isn't even released yet, so do elaborate on what you meant when you said the mod they were working on was outdated. There isn't even any phones with ICS yet...
By describing the devs as under 18s with little coding experience you are actually being extremely naive and disrespectful. Go have a chat with aZuZu or DooMLord about kernels, you'll see what I mean. I don't know if that's what you were intending, but you sound quite rude.
Building a working, let alone stable, ICS ROM, or any ROM for that matter, is not easy. It takes time to build, test, find bugs and iron them out.
Also, for your information, a handful of devs are already working on an ICS port alongside their current projects. Have a quick look in the dev section.
I hope you see my point now.

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