z4root vs visionary - EVO Shift 4G Themes and Apps

I am using z4root but I keep on reading that it might no be as good or stable as visionary.
Thoughts? Recommendations?

Personally the z4 didn't work for me and I had to use Visionary. Also there is already a topic on the temp root concerning the 2 apps, you might want to try there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906711

aisseleacim03 said:
I am using z4root but I keep on reading that it might no be as good or stable as visionary.
Thoughts? Recommendations?
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z4root would not do a thing for me. Visionary works really well, and is quite stable.

cloverdale said:
z4root would not do a thing for me. Visionary works really well, and is quite stable.
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Ya z4 root didn't work for me either but visionary did
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I couldn't get z4 to work either, but now visionary is doing the same thing.
When it works, it doesn't reboot, just goes back to the menu.
When it doesn't work, it reboots and moves really slow.
Any input?
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adamr240 said:
I couldn't get z4 to work either, but now visionary is doing the same thing.
When it works, it doesn't reboot, just goes back to the menu.
When it doesn't work, it reboots and moves really slow.
Any input?
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I've noticed that even Visionary has times when it doesn't take. Had issues on both my wife's and mine, I just kept rebooting until it took. I t did seem to take better if I left root at boot OFF and manually did it after it powered completely up.

I use Visionary to temp root, and noticed that root won't take unless you uninstall superuser before reboot. Visionary wants to install superuser when you attempt to temp root

sapper3a said:
I use Visionary to temp root, and noticed that root won't take unless you uninstall superuser before reboot. Visionary wants to install superuser when you attempt to temp root
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I was wondering if that was the issue. I'll give it a try.
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adamr240 said:
I couldn't get z4 to work either, but now visionary is doing the same thing.
When it works, it doesn't reboot, just goes back to the menu.
When it doesn't work, it reboots and moves really slow.
Any input?
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When that happens, just reboot again, then try the temp root again. This happens to me rarely, but has never taken more than two tries.

I could never get Z4 to work either but Visionary worked well on the Evo shift. It would dissapper though after the temp root so I kept a copy of the .apk on the sd card.

visionary wouldnt take
finally tried z4... seemed to have problems, but it worked. go figure.

i got both z4 and visionary to work on my shift but used visionary for the perm root process

nyeazyone said:
i got both z4 and visionary to work on my shift but used visionary for the perm root process
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Ditto. I had problems with both apps rebooting the phone half way through the temp root process. Z4 ended up finally working for temp, and visionary worked for perm. Whatever combo works, I say.

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Found a new way to root eris:

I accidentally installed the unrooted 2.0 that leaked a few months back... because of that i was unable to root/install different roms....
I switched to a Motorola Droid 2 Global, but today i pulled out my old htc eris and started playing with it...
I tried the rooting tutorial on the forum here with no luck... then i ran across this:
theunlockr.___com/2010/09/22/how-to-root-the-htc-droid-eris-unrevoked-method
(remove underscores...stupid rules on this forum)
A free program that rooted my eris. I then successfully installed Evil Eris v4 and am playing with it now... not sure if it will work for everyone but it worked for me...
i couldnt post this in development because i dont have enough posts but i thought someone should know if it wasnt already on here....
as a side note, my softkeys are not lighting up now that i put the new rom on.... ill have to play with it more..
The unrevoked for Eris has been kinda sketchy. Some people get it to work, some don't. And as far as your soft key lights, evil Eris doesn't have working soft key lights.
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have you tried universal androot? that is my preferred method, somewhat because it's so easy and reversible.
I got the one-click root app on the market. Worked fine for me. After that, whenever I wasn't sure that I was root (after a full wipe in prep for a new rom) I just reflashed rootme.zip that it installed on my card.
mjb413 said:
have you tried universal androot? that is my preferred method, somewhat because it's so easy and reversible.
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agreed. i use universal androot with all my erises. i have never had a problem.
I too used the one click root method and it worked flawlessly.
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Downside to rooting?

I really want to root my phone but i would really like to know the pros and cons
Pros are you can use more apps to control your phone, backup all your apps and even use then across android devices (I have a nook color also). There aren't really any down sides, I think the only reason they don't come rooted is do people can't break it as easy on accident.
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So if i root and dont like it how do I go back yet
In superoneclick rooter just click unroot
Alright I'm going to do it thanks
Seymour2884 said:
Alright I'm going to do it thanks
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Aroot from DG is a cleaner root but requires a basic know how with adb
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BBock9 said:
Aroot from DG is a cleaner root but requires a basic know how with adb
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Correct, use aroot to root and superoneclick to unroot.
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K so now that I rooted what apps should I get
Seymour2884 said:
K so now that I rooted what apps should I get
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Titanium
Root Explorer
Barnacle
...just to name the obvious

2.3.4 root method??

I just came over from a evo3d and im trying to root my photon ive tried the dockless torpedo method but just cant seem to get it to work have searched high and low and all other methods say its for 2.3 soo anyone know of any new recent root methods
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Use the aio root. It works the best. Make sure to extract it from the zip.
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You're having problems with the torpedo method? That one worked flawless for me probably ten times. Hm. That's odd. What is the issue with it?
Torpedo works well on 2.3.4. Pay attention at the end, it gets a little tricky and its easy to overlook a command.
Best and easiest method is by using the Motorola gingerbread one click root. I've done it probably half a dozen times for the photon.
If you would like a walkthrough for a one click root here's the link.
I've used dockless torpedo method at least a dozen times, each attempt worked on the first try. Did you follow these directions?
beartrap said:
I've used dockless torpedo method at least a dozen times, each attempt worked on the first try. Did you follow these directions?
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Is there any reason to use the torpedo method vs. the one-click method? The torpedo method seems a tad bit more involved but is there some advantage over one-click?
sjamie said:
Is there any reason to use the torpedo method vs. the one-click method? The torpedo method seems a tad bit more involved but is there some advantage over one-click?
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Not that I know of, they both get you to the same place. I think the one click method goes through a reboot cycle but the dockless method is just a few lines of script while running, so it's faster.
Yeah. I like the torpedo method. It was quick. With no reboot required.
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beartrap said:
Not that I know of, they both get you to the same place. I think the one click method goes through a reboot cycle but the dockless method is just a few lines of script while running, so it's faster.
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I got it. It's a matter of speed vs. simplicity, right?
I guess so. I rooted my gals Epic today, one click method, and it took a bit, and it just I don't know...felt wrong. I prefer doing it via command prompt, not sure why, I guess it just feels more acomplished. And I know what I'm doing, and what I'm pushing rather than just letting whatever get pushed. Just my thoughts.
xTMFxOffshore said:
I guess so. I rooted my gals Epic today, one click method, and it took a bit, and it just I don't know...felt wrong. I prefer doing it via command prompt, not sure why, I guess it just feels more accomplished. And I know what I'm doing, and what I'm pushing rather than just letting whatever get pushed. Just my thoughts.
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So, you like for things to be more difficult than they have to be for the sake of feeling accomplished? LOL
All jokes aside, I do understand where you are coming from. For me, I've done so much programming back in the day that now I don't mind for some things to be done for me.
Depends upon how much it pisses me off being diffucult. Lol. But yes. Work has just made me used to akways tsking the hard road. But I haven't tried the one click root. And it didn't ever work on my Evo. Also perhaps why I shy away.
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Unlocked bootloader... Setcpu won't hold

Well, been unlocked nd perm rooted for a day now. But since I have been, Setcpu constantly ask for superuser request every 5 to 10 minutes .. I don't know what to do to fix it.
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Tried to re-perm root, uninstall setcpu, use an old backup through titanium...i have no clue what else to do
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Have you tried fixing permissions through recovery? Give that a shot if not.
That I haven't tried yet, due to the fact that I'm kinda weary of flashing anything else, considering that Setcpu, or maybe it might be superuser, isn't working correctly. I don't want to be 24 hrs rooted, and then bricked.
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If you have the stock kernal still, it is prop protected. U gotta flash an un protected version of the stock or use Ziggy's amazing moded kernal
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Rooted, unlocked, set cpu installed since with no issues on stock kernel. Have changed governors, min/max speeds, rebooted, etc., and it is still sticking.
Thanks to all, I just uninstalled Setcpu and reinstalled with a different version from the xda forums..... Its holding a lil better.. uh... As I write this it asked for permissions twice. I have to figure something else out. I don't wanna flash a New kernal until I figure this out. Maybe its superuser...idk
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Funny I'm having the same issue. I'm unlocked, perm rooted, flashed ziggys. Setcpu asks for superuser while I'm playing around on my phone. Did everything by the book. Don't get what's going on. Just gonna uninstall setcpu for now.
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I was having the same issue. Installing Rom Manager and using the "Fix Permissions" utility fixed it. And unlike everything else in Rom Manager you don't need Clockwork Recovery to run it. It will take a while to run though, and remember to restart the phone after it finishes. Hope it works for everyone else
EDIT:
Spoke too soon. It seems to be working better, but it's still asking for root every now and then.
I'm starting to think it he noting to do with Setcpu, and maybe either superuser, or maybe my permroot, is cutting in and out, sorta like a temp root.
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Aww
ministroni said:
I was having the same issue. Installing Rom Manager and using the "Fix Permissions" utility fixed it. And unlike everything else in Rom Manager you don't need Clockwork Recovery to run it. It will take a while to run though, and remember to restart the phone after it finishes. Hope it works for everyone else
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Thanks alot ministroni! I think that did it! Not one "permission" notice since the going through Rom manager and selecting "fix permissions". I always do a fix permission when flashing a Rom or kernal, but when I first perm root. And to have it acting so weird, I was hesitant. I didn't want to go andscrew it up even more especiall since I didn't have a recovery installed. But you were right. Thanks a whole lot! Much appreciated!
Edit: to good to be true. It went back to its old ways. I'm stumped. I installed Amonra and did a band b-up. Now Setcpu is back to not holding with superuser.
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Can I root my dinc4g - just got one yesterday

So I finally got my dinc 4g!! I'm reading through the threads and it looks as though the htcdev site has been shut down.
I wanted to root mainly to remap my soft keys. So my question is, can I use the toolkit to root and apply the mod or am I screwed til further notice??
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mpetruzz said:
So I finally got my dinc 4g!! I'm reading through the threads and it looks as though the htcdev site has been shut down.
I wanted to root mainly to remap my soft keys. So my question is, can I use the toolkit to root and apply the mod or am I screwed til further notice??
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There is no other known way to root the device at this time. I'm sure something will come over the next weeks to months but at the moment you are "screwed".
To save yourself from being criticized post any questions in the Q and A forum and not in the dev forum.
Thanks!! Ill make sure to post there in the future. :thumbup:
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mpetruzz said:
Thanks!! Ill make sure to post there in the future. :thumbup:
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I'm not 100% sure as I haven't looked, but I think you can temp-root the phone, do some search on that.
Ill look around. The main thing I wanna do I use the soft key remap to get rid of the black menu bar at the bottom!!!
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andybones said:
I'm not 100% sure as I haven't looked, but I think you can temp-root the phone, do some search on that.
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I tried a couple different methods and found that none of them worked, mainly because I couldn't get any permissions on /data
mpetruzz said:
So I finally got my dinc 4g!! I'm reading through the threads and it looks as though the htcdev site has been shut down.
I wanted to root mainly to remap my soft keys. So my question is, can I use the toolkit to root and apply the mod or am I screwed til further notice??
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HTC dev is closed? Thank god I unlocked my bootloader before hand... This phone is a lot better without those 3dot menus taking space on our screen
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I've never temp rooted a phone. What are the drawbacks??
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mpetruzz said:
I've never temp rooted a phone. What are the drawbacks??
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root access wont remain after a reboot....you still can freeze/unfreeze with tibu
Gotcha, so a temp root is like a tethered jailbreak on the iphone. It'll work until I need to reboot. If I temp root I'm assuming I can flash a ROM and the softkey remap??
mpetruzz said:
Gotcha, so a temp root is like a tethered jailbreak on the iphone. It'll work until I need to reboot. If I temp root I'm assuming I can flash a ROM and the softkey remap??
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well you cant flash it because temproot doesnt allow you to install a recovery (afaik)
you could conceivably push the files to /system/ while temprooted and then reboot to apply the changes...but i dont know if the changes stick (never actually temp rooted, but there is some wackiness)...maybe someone else can chime in
nitsuj17 said:
well you cant flash it because temproot doesnt allow you to install a recovery (afaik)
you could conceivably push the files to /system/ while temprooted and then reboot to apply the changes...but i dont know if the changes stick (never actually temp rooted, but there is some wackiness)...maybe someone else can chime in
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From my experience:
Temp root simply adds the su command to the /system partition and allows user-apps to call on it when needed. If you can flash a recovery image via a su terminal, then it would allow a recovery, but I think that is where different phones vary in their temp root capabilities.
You can put files on the /system partition, but replacing the entire partition over ADB would be quite a stretch.

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