Hi,
Got my 101 yesterday and i charged it directly on the power adapter.
I charged it like 17hours but no blinking led?
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
My 70 will only blink if it is turned on while charging, otherwise it won't.
What do you mean, while it is charging or when it is done charging and turned on?
If i charge the 70 when it is turned off, it imediately turns itself on and stays on. When it has fully chrarged the led will flash. However if i put it on charge and it turns itself on, if i then turn it off and leave it charging the led never flashes when it is charged.
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
Thanks
I did discover that he only blink when turned on, just what you guys telling here.
Thanks for the reactions
bufflehead said:
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
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Whats bump charge?
wimmetje said:
Hi,
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
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Somewhat same issue, battery charge light NEVER blinked, had Archos 32 for 2 weeks on 2.0.71. The charge would never reach 100%, it would stay at 99% for hours, all day, just could not find that 100% mark and switch to status "charged". When I would wait at 99% for an hour or more, when unplugged, the meter would say 100% immediately after disconnecting it. Maybe it was cycling or doing something battery related, but I doubt it in light of upgrading to fw 2.1.2 and now it charges to 100% without an issue and the power led blinks. Looks like they fixed that bug, or at least it is fixed for me now.
Does anyone have trouble with the Archos 70 not charging at all? This has happened a few times now, I've put it on charge overnight and when I check in the morning the battery is at no charge.
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I was wondering if charging the View/Flyer was like charging the HTC phones. You charge til the light turns green, shut it down. Charge until the light turns green, turn it on, charge until light turns green again?
There is no mention of that in the Flyer's user manual.
It just says charge it with the supplied cable and it's fully charged when the light turns solid green.
It sounds like you are maybe talking about calibrating the battery meter? I did the same as my HTC phones. Charge to full, drain to about 20%, repeat a couple times. Don't drain the battery until the device shuts down, its not good for the battery, and no real benefit gained.
I haven't heard of the sequence you mentioned.
ElAguila said:
I was wondering if charging the View/Flyer was like charging the HTC phones. You charge til the light turns green, shut it down. Charge until the light turns green, turn it on, charge until light turns green again?
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No, such myth didn't exists for the Flyer and hopefully they also disappear for other HTC devices.
"Myth? But it works..."
Yes, also my days are lucky when I see a star in my morning coffee grounds
"But why is the percentage then better?"
Ah, the percentage is better. Yes but did you ever check if the device stays longer active? Surely not because then you know, that the accumulator didn't work better when you charge him in a special way. The only change is here cheating the battery statistic which is used to build the percentage. Therefor it stays longer on high values but didn't work any minute longer. Sorry.
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Li-polimer batteries ALWAYS need a good full initial (out of the box) charge, after that, they improve in discharge over the next 5 to 10 chargings. The battery does not have any charge memory degradation as old Ni-Cads used to have so totally forget the 'discharge-recharge' idea.
However, as posted by redpoint73, never let it get below 15% or life is drastically shortened.
Best policy is, whenever you possibly can, connect it to a HTC (9Volt) charger and keep it topped up.
If you treat you devices battery as a 'only when mobile' power source; then it will give you long life. Don't misuse or abuse it...
I have a charger at the side of my sofa, one in the car (for long work days) and one at the side of the bed for overnight. Done the same for all my HTC devices before, and never had to replace a battery (which BTW, you can do if need with this tab!)
Ok, all that said...Is there such a thing as over charge? If I left the charger plugged in over night, would it be wearing down the battery? So do I need to keep an eye on charging and unplug it as soon as it's full/green lit?
tom_m said:
Ok, all that said...Is there such a thing as over charge? If I left the charger plugged in over night, would it be wearing down the battery? So do I need to keep an eye on charging and unplug it as soon as it's full/green lit?
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You can leave it plugged in.
It's a fully regulated system, just like a laptop.
Hey everyone,
I'm using the "Battery Calibration" app to calibrate my GS2 battery, and I have already charged it to 100% and wiped the "batterystats.bin" file, and completely discharged it.
Now I have a question about charging it back to 100% - I'm going to be charging it while the phone is turned off, so how long should I leave it on charge before I can be absolutely sure it's at 100%? Some posts suggest 24 hours, while others say overnight or even 8 hours or so is completely fine and enough for the battery to become fully charged. Also, I don't need to "bump charge" to properly calibrate it, correct? I just let it charge to 100% now, and then I can use it as normal, right?
Thanks in advance for your help!
8hours ish should take you upto 100%
And after its upto 100% its fine to use it as normal.
amandureja said:
I just let it charge to 100% now, and then I can use it as normal, right?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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...yep...when you see on the display (by clicking home button) the battery icon showing inside 100% then you can unplug your phone and use it normally...battery have a limit of charge just to avoid corruption so when they are at 100% they automatically stop to receive more charge...that's why I think is useful to leave the phone in charge more than he need.
veyka said:
8hours ish should take you upto 100%
And after its upto 100% its fine to use it as normal.
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...sorry I haven't seen you already answer
Thanks for the responses guys!
Now, it has been about 3 hours since I put my phone for charging, turned off, at a completely discharged 0% battery (I even tried download mode before I put it for charging, to make sure it was completely discharged), and now the charge meter is showing 100%...
I'm pretty sure that 3 hours is a VERY short time to charge to 100%... I haven't taken it off the charger yet, so would you recommend waiting a few more hours (maybe 5 more hours?), or is it fine to just take it off the charger right now?
I'm worried a bit now, because 3 hours seems an extremely short amount of time to charge a battery that is 'supposed' to run for 18+ hours...
Well, I just read that 3 hours is about normal, so thank you for your help!
amandureja said:
Well, I just read that 3 hours is about normal, so thank you for your help!
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Firstly, there isn't such a thing as battery calibration with Lithium batteries. Since there is NO MEMORY EFFECT.
Lithium batteries are not Lead Acid batteries, it does not need 8hr to 16hr trickle charge.
Charging is controlled by BMS, there is no such thing as Charging past 100%. So when it is considered 100% by the BMS (Voltage), the BMS will stop charging it.
Lithium batteries gets damaged when there is less than 10% charge, so emptying it to 0% is not a good idea. You cannot really extend Lithium batteries lifespan since it only has a 2+1/2 yr lifespan, 2000 to 5000 deep charge cycles and around 2,000,000 micro charge cycles. It is better to charge anytime you want, as long as it does not go below 10% (Most electronic equipments will state 0% at that time).
Deep Charge Cycle, when close to 0% (10% charge left in battery) you can charge 2000 times back to 100% (depending on quality of battery)
Micro Charge Cycle, when roughly above 40%, you can charge 2,000,000 times back to 100%.
Soooo..... would you like to limit battery charging cycles to 2000 or prefer that you can charge it 2,000,000 times?
Is anybody having problems fully charging the battery to100 percent? I noticed the battery life has gotten worse since I owned the phone. it would always charge 100 percent. Now it only charges to about 98 percent. I made sure all active apps are turned off and running apps as well turned off. I will turn my phone off at least once a week and fully charge it overnight. I notice after doing this the battery life Is always worse.
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Don't believe your battery bar...
Check the number of volts your battery has... its a much better indicator
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess it makes sense. it just seems to run down a lot faster everytime I turn the phone off and back on the next day. It must just be me
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Try the unplug-then-replug routine one morning to restart the charging process. See if it is better that day. If it is, you are probably running into the same problem I talked about in my last paragraph.
I don't know if some of you have the same experience but here is my issue:
I usually charge my phone when I go to bed at night and unplug it in the morning. In the recent a few days, I woke up and found out my GS3 is 99% charged and battery status is still charging after an overnight. I have the Battery Indicator Pro app on it and it keeps the log of all the changes of the battery, so I went to the log and saw that the battery was full charged at e.g. 5:32AM at 100% and CHARGING status, then at 6:15AM it was 99% and CHARGING. So I turned off the phone, and leave it charging when its off and turned it back on after 15 minutes, after a while it showed as FULLY CHARGED at 100% .
I think it was very interesting and would like to know if it's the battery problem or the phone problem, if there is anyone have the same issue.
THANKS!!
popboywei said:
I don't know if some of you have the same experience but here is my issue:
I usually charge my phone when I go to bed at night and unplug it in the morning. In the recent a few days, I woke up and found out my GS3 is 99% charged and battery status is still charging after an overnight. I have the Battery Indicator Pro app on it and it keeps the log of all the changes of the battery, so I went to the log and saw that the battery was full charged at e.g. 5:32AM at 100% and CHARGING status, then at 6:15AM it was 99% and CHARGING. So I turned off the phone, and leave it charging when its off and turned it back on after 15 minutes, after a while it showed as FULLY CHARGED at 100% .
I think it was very interesting and would like to know if it's the battery problem or the phone problem, if there is anyone have the same issue.
THANKS!!
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I have had that problem before. But now for me it will say fully charged then after i take it off the charger it drops to 98%.
em2drvr03 said:
I have had that problem before. But now for me it will say fully charged then after i take it off the charger it drops to 98%.
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I've had the same problem with taking my phone off the charger and found bump charging helps (remove the phone when at 100%, let it drop and then re-plug it in).
As for not charging to 100%, is there something keeping it awake? background process? Screen not shutting off? Sounds like something is keeping the phone from a sleep cycle.
stevesprivateaccount said:
I've had the same problem with taking my phone off the charger and found bump charging helps (remove the phone when at 100%, let it drop and then re-plug it in).
As for not charging to 100%, is there something keeping it awake? background process? Screen not shutting off? Sounds like something is keeping the phone from a sleep cycle.
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My friend with a nexus s tells me that his phone fully charges at 96% so it saves that battery from over charging. idk if thats whats happening here.
I decided to replace my 2+ year old Atrix battery with an OEM battery. Since then I can charge to 100% just fine (ran the battery fixing apps and did a wipe battery cache thing) but the battery discharges visibly, like down 4% for a single google search, and gets stuck at 1% for many hours. I used an app to see the voltage and it tops out at 4.2v and levels out at I think 3.5v and dies around 3.2-3v if I remember correctly. Anyway, I just don't know how long the phone will last but it is lasting most of the day. Even turning setcpu off I run for hours with a battery drain app and stay at 1%.
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Kernel 2.6.32.59-MB860-MROM-ga43d614.
I dont see your question...
Any way I think you need a few charge-discharge cycles to make your battery statistics work.
Wrong section dude
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moderaterain said:
I dont see your question...
Any way I think you need a few charge-discharge cycles to make your battery statistics work.
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Okay, the question is what can I do to make the drop more linear rather than going from 100 to 1 in an hour and staying at 1 the rest of the day.
And I've charged discharged half a dozen times with no change.
As you have tried, I don't have better ideas.
I like checking the voltage reading, rather than the percentage value. It usually makes more sense above 3.6V.
Delete all files (or even better copy somewhere for backup) in /data/battd/. Turn off your phone, charge it few hours after led become green, remove battery with charger connected, wait for "?", place battery again and charge it for about 1 hour, turn phone on with charger connected, check battery level, wait to 4200mV and 100%, finally disconect charger. Use phone without recharging until it turn itself off or reach 1%. Then charge it and use normally.
I did it with new battery and now works great, charge to 4200mV, 100% and discharge to 1%
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Delete all files (or even better copy somewhere for backup) in /data/battd/. Turn off your phone, charge it few hours after led become green, remove battery with charger connected, wait for "?", place battery again and charge it for about 1 hour, turn phone on with charger connected, check battery level, wait to 4200mV and 100%, finally disconect charger. Use phone without recharging until it turn itself off or reach 1%. Then charge it and use normally.
I did it with new battery and now works great, charge to 4200mV, 100% and discharge to 1%
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I have the EXACT same problem as original poster, and i see my battery dying to 1% within couple of hours, and then remaining on 1% for rest of the day! This is misleading and most of time i have no idea how much more my phone will go on. All this despite the fact that i bought my battery paying 35 bucks to get it directly from Amazon!
Tried doing what Zeljko1234 has said in his post above, but to no avail. The problem remains as it is. Anybody else faced this issue and found a resolution? Will hard reset or rooting help? Appreciate any help