Is anybody having problems fully charging the battery to100 percent? I noticed the battery life has gotten worse since I owned the phone. it would always charge 100 percent. Now it only charges to about 98 percent. I made sure all active apps are turned off and running apps as well turned off. I will turn my phone off at least once a week and fully charge it overnight. I notice after doing this the battery life Is always worse.
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Don't believe your battery bar...
Check the number of volts your battery has... its a much better indicator
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
omniphil said:
The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess it makes sense. it just seems to run down a lot faster everytime I turn the phone off and back on the next day. It must just be me
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Try the unplug-then-replug routine one morning to restart the charging process. See if it is better that day. If it is, you are probably running into the same problem I talked about in my last paragraph.
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H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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Never saw that with my phone. Don't think its normal
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All of this is normal?
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Kind of if it's new, cycle the battery a few times and it should sort itself out.
Yeah the same thing happens to me. I checked juice plotter and at 2:30 am, I'm fully charged then at 5:00 am, I'm at 70 percent. The it repeats the cycle.
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H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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That is very odd.. has someone timed how long it takes for the battery to get to 100% Just today I got the please charge now message.. it took 2 hours give or take to get to 100% it maybe you need to cycle the battery. I am using my blackberry 9700 battery charger ( OEM one was left in my hotel room ) The blackberry is output 5VDC and 700mA.
I've noticed that charging the phone using a USB port takes a lot more time that when using an AC/DC adaptor. The USB ports on my PC give out 100 milliamps while the AC/DC adaptor that came with the phone gives out 700 milliamps. Are you charging using a PC USB port or an AC/DC adaptor?
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I've had this happen a few times I plug the phone in at night & when I wake up it's still charging and warm. I now shut my phone off before plugging in the charger & have not had the problem. My guess is some process is running in the background preventing it from properly charging.
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
Phone off worked!
Had a same weird issue after 5 months of usage. First 5 months were fine (needed to charge once every 24 hours). Have noticed in past 2-3 days that when I leave it for chanrging overnight, it does not go to 100%. Sometimes it would go upto 76%, other time 86 and so on. Cannot understand this. Have not installed anything in last 2-3 days either. Do not know the root cause but solution suggested by Phoneguy above worked. That is, I put netwrok setting OFF and then switch my phone OFF. Then I plugin phone to charger and start charging. This way it is getting charged to 100%. Hopefully this workaround will last for another year, at least
zhoustanley said:
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
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Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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This is normal and for Security. When you leave the Phone charging when it has 100 it stops Charging until 90 or something then charge again becouse if it wouldnt do it your Battery will run too hot and could make real damage.
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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The phone actively discharges the battery when plugged in. I've tried the above suggestions and they worked, but only found small success as the battery wouldn't charge past 40%. Now my phone will not boot and the battery is completely drained.
I called SE North America last night and they told me that I broke the battery. I called BS and they then told me that they'll send me a free new battery as a courtesy despite it not being covered in the warranty. Overall, a pretty good experience, but the key point the rep said was to not trickle charge the battery.
I do have a sneaking suspision that it's not the battery because it's only 5 months old, but good because they didn't say anything about the phone not being officially released in the US and not being supported by a warranty.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted as well...lolz.
here it is my graph for the last day, plugged the charger aroung 4pm batt was at 13%, in the office and around 8pm from home, if you see, from 8:44pm to 9:41pm the batt was at 100% an then it goes down and reach 60% at 3am, so it was discharging, and then it tried to charge to reach 100% but couldnt. at 6:30am i woke up and bat was at 78%. so, how can i get it to keep the charge, i dont mind going form 90 to 100 but not going from 100 to 60 and to 100.
anybody can help?
So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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Right but I can watch the meter go all the way to 100%... pull the plug and it goes down to 93% within seconds.
funny thing phone did the same thing...took it off the charger this morn and it dropped down to 95
I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
probotic said:
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
i was having the same issues - 90% right after unplugging. had to charge the phone 3 times in ONE day and i never even touched the phone the whole day except to check the battery percentage.
brought it into verizon, they gave me a new battery and now it lasts me the entire day. when i pull the plug out now, it drops steadily like a normal battery should. i tried bump charging before i brought it in and it didn't help at all
The same thing has been happening to my dads Thunderbolt.
He charged it overnight, took it to work and was losing about 1% per minute without touching the phone. The only time it was touched was about 1 timer per hour to take down the battery percentage for his log.
He took it to the verizon store and they told him he should not expect anything longer than 4 hours of battery life without touching the phone..what kind of BS is that?
psufan5 said:
So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
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I'm having the exact opposite problem with the batteries--just ordered two of the 1600 Seidios that delivered yesterday and even after running pretty much down, fully charging overnite with the T-bolt powered down, drops to 95% immediately. Conversely, the OEM battery would stay at 100% for hours if the phone was idle (screen off / receiving any emails and SMS). Go figger.
There is a post in the Android Central forums on the 1600 battery compared to stock. After testing, they found that the two perform almost identically. Basically, it isn't worth replacing unless you go with the big HTC extended battery. Although having a spare isn't a bad idea. If only that battery door wasn't so tough to pry off when you need to change it...
nexus s had the same problem its nothing big though
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
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Most of us probably won't have the phones long enough to see any possible damage. Starting off at a full 100% is a lot better than immediately dropping to 95 or so after pulling it off charger. It's kind of like the gas gauge in my truck. Stays full a while but once it moves off of full you can watch it drop. lol
Has anyone noticed that their 3D drains while it is plugged in? I plug in my phone for charging. It charges completely and the LED turns green. Then it begins a slow drain (as if it weren't plugged in). I notice the behavior on system panel. It shows I have it plugged in, but my charge is slowly going down.
What's going on here? Is this normal?
I read somewhere that once it is fully charged, it stops taking juice till it drops down to 90 percent and draws juice again while still plugged in.
I think this is from the intelligent charging that most new phones have. In fact in every android phone i have had...i put it on charger at night, wake up and it shows full charge, but if i unplug and replug it will drop down to 94ish and start charging again. I believe it is a form of governor to prevent over charging and heating.
Looking at my Battery Monitor Widget information, charging overnight, the battery gets to 100%, then is allowed to drop to about 95%, then charges up to 100%, then drops, then charges, repeating the cycle between 95% to 100% until unplugged. It looks like a saw tooth pattern.
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Looking at my Battery Monitor Widget information, charging overnight, the battery gets to 100%, then is allowed to drop to about 95%, then charges up to 100%, then drops, then charges, repeating the cycle between 95% to 100% until unplugged. It looks like a saw tooth pattern.
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noticed this as well
I love Battery Monitor Widget Pro.
I checked my log file from over night and noticed the same pattern. Goes from 100 to 95 percent. Pretty cool.
mevensen said:
Looking at my Battery Monitor Widget information, charging overnight, the battery gets to 100%, then is allowed to drop to about 95%, then charges up to 100%, then drops, then charges, repeating the cycle between 95% to 100% until unplugged. It looks like a saw tooth pattern.
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seems HTC tweaked it since the EVO 4G, it would drop to 90 not 95. I been using that widget, too, to monitor it.
anyone notice when it starts to cycle back to 100 it stays 99% for a while longer than what would seem normal?
Hey everyone,
I'm using the "Battery Calibration" app to calibrate my GS2 battery, and I have already charged it to 100% and wiped the "batterystats.bin" file, and completely discharged it.
Now I have a question about charging it back to 100% - I'm going to be charging it while the phone is turned off, so how long should I leave it on charge before I can be absolutely sure it's at 100%? Some posts suggest 24 hours, while others say overnight or even 8 hours or so is completely fine and enough for the battery to become fully charged. Also, I don't need to "bump charge" to properly calibrate it, correct? I just let it charge to 100% now, and then I can use it as normal, right?
Thanks in advance for your help!
8hours ish should take you upto 100%
And after its upto 100% its fine to use it as normal.
amandureja said:
I just let it charge to 100% now, and then I can use it as normal, right?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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...yep...when you see on the display (by clicking home button) the battery icon showing inside 100% then you can unplug your phone and use it normally...battery have a limit of charge just to avoid corruption so when they are at 100% they automatically stop to receive more charge...that's why I think is useful to leave the phone in charge more than he need.
veyka said:
8hours ish should take you upto 100%
And after its upto 100% its fine to use it as normal.
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...sorry I haven't seen you already answer
Thanks for the responses guys!
Now, it has been about 3 hours since I put my phone for charging, turned off, at a completely discharged 0% battery (I even tried download mode before I put it for charging, to make sure it was completely discharged), and now the charge meter is showing 100%...
I'm pretty sure that 3 hours is a VERY short time to charge to 100%... I haven't taken it off the charger yet, so would you recommend waiting a few more hours (maybe 5 more hours?), or is it fine to just take it off the charger right now?
I'm worried a bit now, because 3 hours seems an extremely short amount of time to charge a battery that is 'supposed' to run for 18+ hours...
Well, I just read that 3 hours is about normal, so thank you for your help!
amandureja said:
Well, I just read that 3 hours is about normal, so thank you for your help!
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...you are welcome bro
Firstly, there isn't such a thing as battery calibration with Lithium batteries. Since there is NO MEMORY EFFECT.
Lithium batteries are not Lead Acid batteries, it does not need 8hr to 16hr trickle charge.
Charging is controlled by BMS, there is no such thing as Charging past 100%. So when it is considered 100% by the BMS (Voltage), the BMS will stop charging it.
Lithium batteries gets damaged when there is less than 10% charge, so emptying it to 0% is not a good idea. You cannot really extend Lithium batteries lifespan since it only has a 2+1/2 yr lifespan, 2000 to 5000 deep charge cycles and around 2,000,000 micro charge cycles. It is better to charge anytime you want, as long as it does not go below 10% (Most electronic equipments will state 0% at that time).
Deep Charge Cycle, when close to 0% (10% charge left in battery) you can charge 2000 times back to 100% (depending on quality of battery)
Micro Charge Cycle, when roughly above 40%, you can charge 2,000,000 times back to 100%.
Soooo..... would you like to limit battery charging cycles to 2000 or prefer that you can charge it 2,000,000 times?
I decided to replace my 2+ year old Atrix battery with an OEM battery. Since then I can charge to 100% just fine (ran the battery fixing apps and did a wipe battery cache thing) but the battery discharges visibly, like down 4% for a single google search, and gets stuck at 1% for many hours. I used an app to see the voltage and it tops out at 4.2v and levels out at I think 3.5v and dies around 3.2-3v if I remember correctly. Anyway, I just don't know how long the phone will last but it is lasting most of the day. Even turning setcpu off I run for hours with a battery drain app and stay at 1%.
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Kernel 2.6.32.59-MB860-MROM-ga43d614.
I dont see your question...
Any way I think you need a few charge-discharge cycles to make your battery statistics work.
Wrong section dude
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moderaterain said:
I dont see your question...
Any way I think you need a few charge-discharge cycles to make your battery statistics work.
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Okay, the question is what can I do to make the drop more linear rather than going from 100 to 1 in an hour and staying at 1 the rest of the day.
And I've charged discharged half a dozen times with no change.
As you have tried, I don't have better ideas.
I like checking the voltage reading, rather than the percentage value. It usually makes more sense above 3.6V.
Delete all files (or even better copy somewhere for backup) in /data/battd/. Turn off your phone, charge it few hours after led become green, remove battery with charger connected, wait for "?", place battery again and charge it for about 1 hour, turn phone on with charger connected, check battery level, wait to 4200mV and 100%, finally disconect charger. Use phone without recharging until it turn itself off or reach 1%. Then charge it and use normally.
I did it with new battery and now works great, charge to 4200mV, 100% and discharge to 1%
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Delete all files (or even better copy somewhere for backup) in /data/battd/. Turn off your phone, charge it few hours after led become green, remove battery with charger connected, wait for "?", place battery again and charge it for about 1 hour, turn phone on with charger connected, check battery level, wait to 4200mV and 100%, finally disconect charger. Use phone without recharging until it turn itself off or reach 1%. Then charge it and use normally.
I did it with new battery and now works great, charge to 4200mV, 100% and discharge to 1%
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I have the EXACT same problem as original poster, and i see my battery dying to 1% within couple of hours, and then remaining on 1% for rest of the day! This is misleading and most of time i have no idea how much more my phone will go on. All this despite the fact that i bought my battery paying 35 bucks to get it directly from Amazon!
Tried doing what Zeljko1234 has said in his post above, but to no avail. The problem remains as it is. Anybody else faced this issue and found a resolution? Will hard reset or rooting help? Appreciate any help