Charge questions. - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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Never saw that with my phone. Don't think its normal

pendejerto said:
All of this is normal?
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Kind of if it's new, cycle the battery a few times and it should sort itself out.

Yeah the same thing happens to me. I checked juice plotter and at 2:30 am, I'm fully charged then at 5:00 am, I'm at 70 percent. The it repeats the cycle.
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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That is very odd.. has someone timed how long it takes for the battery to get to 100% Just today I got the please charge now message.. it took 2 hours give or take to get to 100% it maybe you need to cycle the battery. I am using my blackberry 9700 battery charger ( OEM one was left in my hotel room ) The blackberry is output 5VDC and 700mA.

I've noticed that charging the phone using a USB port takes a lot more time that when using an AC/DC adaptor. The USB ports on my PC give out 100 milliamps while the AC/DC adaptor that came with the phone gives out 700 milliamps. Are you charging using a PC USB port or an AC/DC adaptor?
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I've had this happen a few times I plug the phone in at night & when I wake up it's still charging and warm. I now shut my phone off before plugging in the charger & have not had the problem. My guess is some process is running in the background preventing it from properly charging.

ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)

Phone off worked!
Had a same weird issue after 5 months of usage. First 5 months were fine (needed to charge once every 24 hours). Have noticed in past 2-3 days that when I leave it for chanrging overnight, it does not go to 100%. Sometimes it would go upto 76%, other time 86 and so on. Cannot understand this. Have not installed anything in last 2-3 days either. Do not know the root cause but solution suggested by Phoneguy above worked. That is, I put netwrok setting OFF and then switch my phone OFF. Then I plugin phone to charger and start charging. This way it is getting charged to 100%. Hopefully this workaround will last for another year, at least

zhoustanley said:
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
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Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!

outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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This is normal and for Security. When you leave the Phone charging when it has 100 it stops Charging until 90 or something then charge again becouse if it wouldnt do it your Battery will run too hot and could make real damage.

outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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The phone actively discharges the battery when plugged in. I've tried the above suggestions and they worked, but only found small success as the battery wouldn't charge past 40%. Now my phone will not boot and the battery is completely drained.
I called SE North America last night and they told me that I broke the battery. I called BS and they then told me that they'll send me a free new battery as a courtesy despite it not being covered in the warranty. Overall, a pretty good experience, but the key point the rep said was to not trickle charge the battery.
I do have a sneaking suspision that it's not the battery because it's only 5 months old, but good because they didn't say anything about the phone not being officially released in the US and not being supported by a warranty.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted as well...lolz.

here it is my graph for the last day, plugged the charger aroung 4pm batt was at 13%, in the office and around 8pm from home, if you see, from 8:44pm to 9:41pm the batt was at 100% an then it goes down and reach 60% at 3am, so it was discharging, and then it tried to charge to reach 100% but couldnt. at 6:30am i woke up and bat was at 78%. so, how can i get it to keep the charge, i dont mind going form 90 to 100 but not going from 100 to 60 and to 100.
anybody can help?

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Battery issues part 2

So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
Russ36363 said:
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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Right but I can watch the meter go all the way to 100%... pull the plug and it goes down to 93% within seconds.
funny thing phone did the same thing...took it off the charger this morn and it dropped down to 95
I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
probotic said:
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
i was having the same issues - 90% right after unplugging. had to charge the phone 3 times in ONE day and i never even touched the phone the whole day except to check the battery percentage.
brought it into verizon, they gave me a new battery and now it lasts me the entire day. when i pull the plug out now, it drops steadily like a normal battery should. i tried bump charging before i brought it in and it didn't help at all
The same thing has been happening to my dads Thunderbolt.
He charged it overnight, took it to work and was losing about 1% per minute without touching the phone. The only time it was touched was about 1 timer per hour to take down the battery percentage for his log.
He took it to the verizon store and they told him he should not expect anything longer than 4 hours of battery life without touching the phone..what kind of BS is that?
psufan5 said:
So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
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I'm having the exact opposite problem with the batteries--just ordered two of the 1600 Seidios that delivered yesterday and even after running pretty much down, fully charging overnite with the T-bolt powered down, drops to 95% immediately. Conversely, the OEM battery would stay at 100% for hours if the phone was idle (screen off / receiving any emails and SMS). Go figger.
There is a post in the Android Central forums on the 1600 battery compared to stock. After testing, they found that the two perform almost identically. Basically, it isn't worth replacing unless you go with the big HTC extended battery. Although having a spare isn't a bad idea. If only that battery door wasn't so tough to pry off when you need to change it...
nexus s had the same problem its nothing big though
bashir1102 said:
All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
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Most of us probably won't have the phones long enough to see any possible damage. Starting off at a full 100% is a lot better than immediately dropping to 95 or so after pulling it off charger. It's kind of like the gas gauge in my truck. Stays full a while but once it moves off of full you can watch it drop. lol

[Q] Battery Discharges After Full Charge

So I have an odd problem I've never seen on any of my cell phones before. I charged my phone today using the charging cable and USB wall adapter that came with my EVO 3D. I noticed that once it got to 100%, it started to discharge while still plugged in. The notification light stayed green, and under Settings > About Phone > Battery, the Battery status showed fully charged. So I went under SetCPU about an hour later and went into Info > Battery, and the battery level had dropped down to 94% even though plugged in. So what's up with this? The only things I can think of is that either I have a defective device (which I want to return anyway for the dead pixels), a bad charging cable, a bad or uncalibrated battery, or somehow my device was consuming more power than what was being supplied to it by the charger.
Anybody else have this issue before? I'm really thinking about swapping out my phone for another one before my 30 days are up. And by the way, do you think I'd have to pay a restocking fee if I want to get a replacement phone? I have all the original packaging still.
The charger just isn't charging after it hits 100%. Which saves your battery from overcharging. If you connect the cable again after taking it off it will continue charging. This has not negatively affected my battery life. Which is sitting at 50% after 15 hours.
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bhambalek said:
So I have an odd problem I've never seen on any of my cell phones before. I charged my phone today using the charging cable and USB wall adapter that came with my EVO 3D. I noticed that once it got to 100%, it started to discharge while still plugged in. The notification light stayed green, and under Settings > About Phone > Battery, the Battery status showed fully charged. So I went under SetCPU about an hour later and went into Info > Battery, and the battery level had dropped down to 94% even though plugged in. So what's up with this? The only things I can think of is that either I have a defective device (which I want to return anyway for the dead pixels), a bad charging cable, a bad or uncalibrated battery, or somehow my device was consuming more power than what was being supplied to it by the charger.
Anybody else have this issue before? I'm really thinking about swapping out my phone for another one before my 30 days are up. And by the way, do you think I'd have to pay a restocking fee if I want to get a replacement phone? I have all the original packaging still.
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This is normal behavior on Evo 4g and Evo 3d. Supposedly prolongs battery life...
It drops down to about 95 percent then charges to 100 then down to 95 and so on. Its bad for the battery to charge after it has reached 100 percent. so it has to drain a little before being charged again.
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It drops down to about 95 percent then charges to 100 then down to 95 and so on. Its bad for the battery to charge after it has reached 100 percent. so it has to drain a little before being charged again.
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So, say I leave my phone plugged in all day, will it continuously drop down and then recharge itself after it reaches a certain point?
Yeah... helps keep the cells even within the battery
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How far down will it drain before recharging? VintageSin said his phone is at 50% after sitting plugged in for 15 hours. I'm wondering if it's possible to bring the battery down to 0%.
You misunderstood his post.hes saying the charging method has not affected his phone as its still at 50% after 15hrs.
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Im assuming the phone is unplugged because the phone starts to recharge the battery at 95%.I have also noticed this cycling.
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It drops to about 95% before charging again. The 50% you seen mentioned was only on battery power.
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Hmm... interesting. That would explain why my battery is down between 95% to 100% whenever I wake up in the morning after leaving my phone plugged in overnight.

Problems charging battery to 100%

Is anybody having problems fully charging the battery to100 percent? I noticed the battery life has gotten worse since I owned the phone. it would always charge 100 percent. Now it only charges to about 98 percent. I made sure all active apps are turned off and running apps as well turned off. I will turn my phone off at least once a week and fully charge it overnight. I notice after doing this the battery life Is always worse.
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Don't believe your battery bar...
Check the number of volts your battery has... its a much better indicator
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess it makes sense. it just seems to run down a lot faster everytime I turn the phone off and back on the next day. It must just be me
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Try the unplug-then-replug routine one morning to restart the charging process. See if it is better that day. If it is, you are probably running into the same problem I talked about in my last paragraph.

[Q] Battery displays 1% and doesnt charge

Ever since around the time i downloaded a battery indictor to show the %age in the notifications, i have been having some odd experiences.
It says its 100% charged all the time but it runs down to 1% within and hour and stays on 1% for a few hours.
But a few days ago, things got worse, now it doesnt ever charge, i plug it in and it says discharging. I left it charging overnight but it never charged. I have to plug it in and out a couple of times before it actually charges. And im pretty sure the battery doesnt last as long anymore.
Anyone else have this problem? I deleted the app already, put device on and off, unrooted, problem still there
is this a faulty battery?
go on pc companion and repair the phone. If this still happens then send it sony most likely a hardware fault
Did you try resetting the battery by switching off the phone holding the volume up button for 5 secs ?? Its as same as pulling out your battery.
Good afternoon!
This happened to my sxs during the first charge, when it charged up to 53%, no matter how long I left it on the charger. This was fixed with a simple phone restart, and never happened again since then...
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Yeah tried that and I think it fixed it but I still can't get it to charge, just found out that once it reaches 100%, it discharges but doesn't stop discharging at 95% but instead doesn't charge until flat
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The best option is to send the phone back to Sony
There are always be bad phones like 1 of the 10000. Maybe this time it hit you..

Charging phone does not work.

My phone dropped to 7% battery. I let it charge for an hour with airplane mode on and it was at 4% battery. The orange light was on the whole time meaning it was charging. I then turned it off, took the battery out and it went to 13% battery. Soon it went back to 4%. I let it charge again for 2 hours this time and it hadn't moved at all and was still at 4%. I then swapped the stock battery for one from China. It started with 60% battery and after a half hour of charging it went to 54%. Why does my battery drain while it charges? I don't even use it when it's charging so I have no idea why it's draining. I'm running stock ics but it's rooted with 4ext. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Dr.Strangelove. said:
My phone dropped to 7% battery. I let it charge for an hour with airplane mode on and it was at 4% battery. The orange light was on the whole time meaning it was charging. I then turned it off, took the battery out and it went to 13% battery. Soon it went back to 4%. I let it charge again for 2 hours this time and it hadn't moved at all and was still at 4%. I then swapped the stock battery for one from China. It started with 60% battery and after a half hour of charging it went to 54%. Why does my battery drain while it charges? I don't even use it when it's charging so I have no idea why it's draining. I'm running stock ics but it's rooted with 4ext. Any ideas?
Thanks.
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Charge with AC not through an USB plugged to your computer. Your phone is using more battery than the USB port can provide. If you plug it in through the normal AC charger, it should be fine, as it gives out 1.0A, while USB ports typically give out anywhere between 200 to 500mA (at its absolute maximum).
I am using the ac. That message even appears when I use the ac.
Have you tried turning it of and charging?
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I have tried that and it only turns on to what the battery was at before. As I typed this I went from 54% to 21% in about 10 minutes. This is really starting to piss me off. My phone cannot hold a charge. My motorola from 8 years ago could at least hold a charge. This is ridiculous. Thanks so far for the help.
Are you using the factory Amaze Cord to charge your phone?
My factory amaze cord stopped charging via ac. I had it plugged into the wall and it would say usb charging so I'm using a different kind of cord. I've never had a problem using my sisters blackberry cord plugged into the usb converter to ac.
Maybe....just maybe...your devices charging port is defected...
I have some charger from China that goes from the wall straight to my phone without using that charging port and it doesn't charge it either.
China should only be used for one thing...Chinese People
I tried another one of my batteries that had a 60% charge. Within 10 minutes the battery was dead. I have it charging and the orange led is flashing. I waited 20 minutes and tried turning it on. After several presses of the power button it finally turns on. As soon as it gets to the home screen the low battery sound beeps and it shuts down. Seriously what am I supposed to do? This is getting ridiculous.
Thanks.
Have you looked into doing a warranty exchange...
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I have not. This has only happened 3 times or so since I got it a week or so after launch. I didn't suspect it to be a hardware problem. I think the person who suggested the bad power port was correct because my Chinese charger charged it full perfectly and it's been good. It just has to be held at a certain angle to charge. I'm going to go to Telus and try and get a new power port and see, maybe I could get an exchange. I have it rooted though, so would I have to unroot it get the exchange?
Thanks.
Step one, dim the phones lighting.
Then check to see if there's an app keeping the phone awake causing it to drain battery while charging,
If its not an app keeping it awake then you my friend are one of the unlucky owners of this picky phone...
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