Is it possible to create an application similar to Verizon Hot Spot, then Archos can connected and work fine?
Its not an app issue that you can solve on your phone, its a hardware issue. Verizon hotspot app works in "Infrastructure mode" (ie Routers, real accesspoints) because the phone wifi hardware allows it. Most phones and laptops with wifi don't have that, and will only work in Peer to peer mode known as Ad-Hoc mode. Unfortunately the wifi scanner on Android was coded to ignore Ad-Hoc signals.
If you can't use Wireless Tether for Root Users, try tethering over Bluetooth by changing its options.
I have tried Barnacle and Rooter for LG Ally(SUperOneClick) from this forum. But as I uderstood right Adroid Archos 70 would not see it becuase didn't have capability to see Ad-hoc.
So I was thinking here a lot a very talant programmers, so if Verizon creat Hot Spot, that works as wifi rooter, so someone be able create similar to it for rooted users.
Thanks
Not true. If you have the hotspot app it will work. Depending on the phone you have you can download ROMs that have this app built in/hacked in that will work to tether.
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Its not an app issue that you can solve on your phone, its a hardware issue. Verizon hotspot app works in "Infrastructure mode" (ie Routers, real accesspoints) because the phone wifi hardware allows it. Most phones and laptops with wifi don't have that, and will only work in Peer to peer mode known as Ad-Hoc mode. Unfortunately the wifi scanner on Android was coded to ignore Ad-Hoc signals.
If you can't use Wireless Tether for Root Users, try tethering over Bluetooth by changing its options.
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Wireless Tether has been updated to work in infrastructure mode. I tether my Archos with my Droid X. Made this thing so much better for me.
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Wireless Tether for root doesn't provide "infrastructure mode" on the Fascinate. Also, Bluetooth tether does not work on the Fascinate. (keep getting "unknown state")...
Obviously the phone is capable of infrastructure, because of the "hot spot" app, which does work with the Archos....
Gotta get the Wireless Tether for Root guys to fix it for the Fascinate.....
Wireless Tether supported hardware...
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/SupportedHardware
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I'm on the verge of buying an archos 70 8GB IT, but I need a critical question answered first.
I'm planning on using this on my car, and would need to grab internet from my phone. I have an ATT captivate running a custom froyo rom. Now, there is an function on my phone to start a mobile AP through wifi (I believe it is the standard froyo feature and not some third party add-on).
Does this wifi hotspot not work with the archos? This would be a major dealbreaker as bluetooth is out of the question due to having to use a GPS to bluetooth adapter.
I've read a couple of forums up and down and no one seems to have answered this question completely. It seems that everyone has come to the conclusion that android does not have support for ad-hoc networks. I guess my questions lies more along the lines of whether the froyo mobile ap is an adhoc network.
Thanks.
You may remove your connection.
Re-connect it with power save disabled
it may OK
I am using a ZTE Blade/San Francisco with a custom Froyo rom and I can wireless tether my Archos 70IT to my wireless hotspot.
I have a rooted HTC Incredible with stock froyo, and tether my A70 using Wireless Tether from the market. Works great. So does my bluetooth gps, by the way.
Not that this should change your plans, but the fact that you need Bluetooth for GPS doesn't necessarily eliminate using Bluetooth for tethering simultaneously.
I've done exactly that with a Blackberry Tour (for tethering) and a cheap-when-I-bought-it TomTom Bluetooth external GPS unit. I used this configuration to get Google Navigation working. FWIW, doing this actually drove me to get CoPilot, as I didn't want to be tethered all the time to do GPS navigation.
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Not that this should change your plans, but the fact that you need Bluetooth for GPS doesn't necessarily eliminate using Bluetooth for tethering simultaneously.
I've done exactly that with a Blackberry Tour (for tethering) and a cheap-when-I-bought-it TomTom Bluetooth external GPS unit. I used this configuration to get Google Navigation working. FWIW, doing this actually drove me to get CoPilot, as I didn't want to be tethered all the time to do GPS navigation.
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That's interesting, I was under the impression that you could only have one device paired at one time. This is good news as I was hoping to perhaps write a program that would allow me to use the archos as a bluetooth headset (to receive calls while in the car), but since I would already have been using it for GPS, I didn't think I could do that.
Regarding my original question, it appears the the froyo mobile AP feature does work in infrastructure mode, I made a hotspot and my friend's nexus one connected to it fine.
Thanks.
I tried to tether to my HTC HD2 with WM 6.5.3, but no success. WiFi hotspot is ad-hoc, Bluetooth and USB tethering simply doesn't work. I'm at a deadlock... Any ideas?
Doesn't the HD2 run android as well? You could switch to that.
KOCTA said:
I tried to tether to my HTC HD2 with WM 6.5.3, but no success. WiFi hotspot is ad-hoc, Bluetooth and USB tethering simply doesn't work. I'm at a deadlock... Any ideas?
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Hi,
I´m also in trouble with mobile 6.5 on Omnia i8000 and archos 101. No tethering via BT or USB. Seems to be a mobile 6.5 problem.
I tethered my archos via BT to an SE t630 without any problem.
But I need it for my maindevice Omnia ...
ske714 said:
I have a rooted HTC Incredible with stock froyo, and tether my A70 using Wireless Tether from the market. Works great. So does my bluetooth gps, by the way.
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Could you link to an .APK file for download? On my rooted myTouch Slide with CM6, it just doesn't show up in the market.
I just got my A70 IT 250 gb, I am not able to use Wifi Tether from my Epic 4G. Rooted with Froyo.
any help will be greatly appreciated..
Using the Mobile AP option is the settings menu? Or using some custom Sprint functionality. The Mobile AP one should work.
By the way, where did you buy your A70, I've been trying to buy one but its sold out everywhere.
RollerCoasting said:
Could you link to an .APK file for download? On my rooted myTouch Slide with CM6, it just doesn't show up in the market.
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code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/]
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Using the Mobile AP option is the settings menu? Or using some custom Sprint functionality. The Mobile AP one should work.
By the way, where did you buy your A70, I've been trying to buy one but its sold out everywhere.
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Did you try CDW? I got one there about a week ago. I called and they sold one to me for $275.
confirmed Wireless Tehthered doesn't work....it doesn't connect to adhoc Wifi hotspot such as my Iphone 4 on Mywi.
I'm using Arcgos 70IT 250GB rooted
ske714 said:
I have a rooted HTC Incredible with stock froyo, and tether my A70 using Wireless Tether from the market. Works great. So does my bluetooth gps, by the way.
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ske714 said:
I have a rooted HTC Incredible with stock froyo, and tether my A70 using Wireless Tether from the market. Works great. So does my bluetooth gps, by the way.
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Do you have the link or How-to, to get your A70 work on Wifi?
A70 root
carlochiefsg said:
confirmed Wireless Tehthered doesn't work....it doesn't connect to adhoc Wifi hotspot such as my Iphone 4 on Mywi.
I'm using Arcgos 70IT 250GB rooted
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Just wondering how did you root your A70? was it easy? I saw a post on XDA on how to root Archos Gen8, using SDE. I read thru it and got chicken out.
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confirmed Wireless Tehthered doesn't work....it doesn't connect to adhoc Wifi hotspot such as my Iphone 4 on Mywi.
I'm using Arcgos 70IT 250GB rooted
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Wireless Tether is an app you run on your rooted android phone. It shares the phone's 3G/4G connection, which will show up as an available connection in your A70's wireless settings and allow you to access the internet with your tablet.
An adhoc network is used to allow the devices to communicate and share files with each other. I don't believe the A70 will connect using adhoc wifi.
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Do you have the link or How-to, to get your A70 work on Wifi?
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Once you have Wireless Tether installed and opened on your rooted android phone, open up the settings. Change the SSID to something you will recognize. I would leave the encryption and access control off until you have it working. Then go back to the main screen and press to start tethering. Once it starts, open the wifi settings on your A70 and scan for devices. You should see your phone and be able to connect to it.
Once working, I recommend going back and setting the access control and encryption. You will have to set a passphrase in the phone for the encryption, then edit the connection on you tablet (long press) and add it to the settings. With access control enabled, you have to accept the connection on you phone the first time. Once you start tethering and your tablet tries to connect, hit menu->access control on the phone and accept the connection.
I've red that Android devices could connect to ad-hoc networks if you are able to make changes in config files via adb. Alas I can't do this on my 101
My new Touchpad don't seem to support ad-hoc wireless networks. It don't see them or let me join them by entering the SSID (network name) and password. Is there any software I can add or configuration change I can make to change this? I have a Windows Mobile cell phone that can share its connection over wifi, but its ad-hoc only and I use WEP.
Any ideas on what to do about adhoc networks? Any hacks or sideloaded software, if no official apps?
This KILLED me. I bought mine over the weekend while I was on vacation and the hotel had a catch-all page so I couldn't get through registration from that network. I figured no big deal and turned on my hotspot (Moto Photon) and it wasn't showing up. I configured a wifi shared connection on my laptop and it didn't show up. I thought I was insane! Ended up getting annoyed and driving up the road until I found an open network without a catch-all... My wife drove while I scanned for a connection. I know for a fact that they work with the Palm Pre's shared connection. What's up with the haterade HP?
I have an original droid and have this same issue as I understand cyanagen mod allows you to create a non ad hoc WiFi but I can't get a clear answer on this
So far I could not find an app or hack to allow the Touchpad to connect to an adhoc wifi either. I too have a WM phone (HD2). Unfortunately there is also no app for the WM phone that would allow it to broadcast infracstructure (non-adhoc) wifi.
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This KILLED me. I bought mine over the weekend while I was on vacation and the hotel had a catch-all page so I couldn't get through registration from that network.
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I had this problem also, but you can still make it work. Goto your networks wifi setting and flip the auto switch and wait. It takes some time (almost 5min for me) but it'll pickup the ip address and finish loading the setup pages.
I am trying to use my TP with the wifi from my Touch Pro 2. Any help would be appreciated.
This is a real let down, no ad-hoc support. And our WinMo phone and Motorola Triumph do not support Infrastructure mode.
SoftAP appears to be a requirement to tether with android phones.
Unfortunately my Galaxy Spica does not have this so until some wonderful magical person creates an app/patch which allows the Touchpad to Bluetooth tether or utilise ad hoc wifi networks my tablet will be housebound
also need help with HTC HD2 on winmo 6.5 tethering adhoc with touchpad.
i guess the more realistic solution will be HD2 running android?
For you rooted android phone users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238382
I'm really annoyed about this. One of the main things I thought of when buying the touchpad was to tether it to my winmo phone and browse the internet on the move. I hope someone creates a patch soon to enable adhoc wifi.
Really disapointed that I can't tether my iphone 4 to my touchpad.
For the price I can live without gps, sd/micro sd card slot, usb but the not being able to tether this thing is a deal breaker for me.
All I wanted to be able to do with my touchpad is tether for mail, browse the web, music, and be able to watch movies and it seems this thing falls short on everyone of the fronts.
I wonder if its likely anyone will release a patch for WebOS to allow it to recognise and use AdHoc networks?!
Just upgraded my Samsung Galaxy Spica to 2.2 Froyo using kitchen - Enabled portable Wi-Fi Hotspot from the settings menu and now it works perfectly (open or with WPA2 PSK encryption)
Appears this was the only way to get it to work for me as the touchpad was not detecting the adhoc connection on 2.1.
for those with the HD2, try using MCCM HD v6 DESIRE ROM. I can tether to my touchpad with no problems.... first try, no setting tweaks or anything...
Through my searching it was my understanding that Ad-Hoc support could be injected to the touchpad, is there any progress on this front to make it more user friendly? It was pretty heavy linux speak.
Most of the threads I've seen are focusing on Android development for support. What about the webOS side of things?
This is what I'm referencing:
webos-internals
.org/wiki/Ad-Hoc_Networking*
Is there some reason this isn't a viable option? the signal issues? Seems if the method is there than all that it needs is to be more user friendly...
*argh! too newb to post links
CarbolDroid said:
Through my searching it was my understanding that Ad-Hoc support could be injected to the touchpad, is there any progress on this front to make it more user friendly? It was pretty heavy linux speak.
Most of the threads I've seen are focusing on Android development for support. What about the webOS side of things?
This is what I'm referencing:
webos-internals
.org/wiki/Ad-Hoc_Networking*
Is there some reason this isn't a viable option? the signal issues? Seems if the method is there than all that it needs is to be more user friendly...
*argh! too newb to post links
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I tried what was described in the thread a few days ago. Ran into issue when trying to execute
/usr/sbin/wifidriver -i
no such file exised....
I have a Samsung Charge with Gummybear. I could not tether at first. I went to the tethering settings and changed the profile to a Samsung Fascinate. Then changed the Setup-Method to softap for Samsung (master). This did not work at first then I shutdown (using the task manager) the tethering app and restarted. Turned my wi-fi on the touchpad off, then on, and my SSID came up. Clicked connect and went to access control and approved my touchpad connection. Now it works.
Hope this helps someone.
Just a heads up for anyone using an iphone 4 with their touchpad.
If you upgrade to ios 4.3.3 or later you can enable wifi hotspot and this hotspot will thether with the touchpad without issue.
I was running ios 4.1 trying to use mywi without success and then decided to try this method and works like a charm.
Hi,
I have read all the posts regarding the inability of ICS on the prime to access ad-hoc networks. I have tried all those 3rd party software (Barnacle, Wifi Tether beta 3.11 - tried to select different phones, pdanet on my Moto Atrix and mywi on a jailbroken Iphone 3GS) and my TP just does not see the ad-hoc network. There is a work around to modify wpa_supplicant (in one of the posts), but don't want my TP to be rooted. I think all these is happening due to ICS since on Honeycomb there was no problem. One of the posts indicated that ICS disables ad-hoc network since they are using WIFI Direct and don't know how that is implemented or used with the TP and able to connect to wifi devices (maybe like phone running a wifi tethering software, don't know)
Other people got it to work and for me, for whatever reason just does not connect my TP.
Another problem I have, is when I use bluetooth with my Atrix, it is indicated paired but not connected and whatever I do, when I click on the phone, the only option I have is rename or unpair, and my suspicion is, my bluetooth never connects to my phone. I tried my bluetooth headset and is connected properly (indicates media and phone connected) and I can hear my music play on my TP. Never works between my phone and TP.
If anybody is kind enough to share their thoughts or even a fix for this, would gladly appreciate it.
Thank you.
I fixed mine by using a custom ROM for my phone with a baked in Wi-Fi tether ie Sprint hotspot or Verizon's hotspots as these work just fine with tether.
I had success with the Open Garden Wifi Tethering app (available on the Android Market).
I have a Thunderbolt and have used Barnacle and Wifi Tether in the past for tethering to my laptop, but neither of these Apps worked with the Prime.
Tether
I also have the TP and a Samsung Intercept vm rooted,wifi tether and Barnacle both don't show up.
Why is this so difficult?
Just installed Open Garden, willsee when my TP gets back from repair (waiting on part! Hope itz a new radio!) Sent it in for weak wifi
theres already been a 20some page thread about this. ICS doesnt have a method to see ad hoc networks. some phones can broadcast in infrastructure, some cannot. Me personally, upgrading to ICS on my Verizon Rezound seems to have fixed its ability to broadcast in infrastructure, and where i was screwed before I am no longer.
I haven't tried adhoc, but it works fine if I turn the wifi hotspot on.
I'm using a custom ICS rom on a T mobile HTC Sensation.
If you have read all those threads - then there is no need to start another one.
Does anyone know any apps that creates a Wifi AP? I am not talking about an Adhoc network that all apps I have used create, I want it to work like native tethering.
I am asking because I am using polish blood preRC, and I really want to use it full time, the only thing is native tethers do not work and all apps create an Adhoc network.
Normally this isn't a problem, however I wish to use my PS3 over my phone's 3G connection, this is where the problem comes in, the PS3 does not see Adhoc networks so most, if not all tether apps will not work.
I have tried to use connectify while I have a usb tether connected however the PS3 cannot connect to the internet, I also would prefer to avoid using my laptop as an AP.
So anyone know a decent Wifi tether app that will create an AP like native tethering, not an Adhoc network
Are you sure that PS3 cannot connect to Ad hoc networks?
Here is an article about it http://www.ehow.com/how_6808376_can-connect-ad-hoc-network_.html
and it says PS3 can connect to Ad hoc networks.
Check if you configured everything properly.
Also Wireless tether app supports AP mode but only on certain handsets (HTC Evo 3D for example). It looks like it doesn't support our device.
Mine has never seen an adhoc network from my phone, guess I'll check it tonight when I can get on it.
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Check wifi channels, anything between 1-11 channel will work.
delsus said:
Does anyone know any apps that creates a Wifi AP? I am not talking about an Adhoc network that all apps I have used create, I want it to work like native tethering.
I am asking because I am using polish blood preRC, and I really want to use it full time, the only thing is native tethers do not work and all apps create an Adhoc network.
Normally this isn't a problem, however I wish to use my PS3 over my phone's 3G connection, this is where the problem comes in, the PS3 does not see Adhoc networks so most, if not all tether apps will not work.
I have tried to use connectify while I have a usb tether connected however the PS3 cannot connect to the internet, I also would prefer to avoid using my laptop as an AP.
So anyone know a decent Wifi tether app that will create an AP like native tethering, not an Adhoc network
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Don't use this ICS. It's still in very early stage of developement. It's only for money.. If you really need a ICS on your Swift, then try AOKP 4.0.3. by DevSwift. Probably an update will come very soon. I was using it on my swift for 1-2 weeks, and I was happy with it. Now I changed the whole phone.
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Don't use this ICS. It's still in very early stage of developement. It's only for money.. If you really need a ICS on your Swift, then try AOKP 4.0.3. by DevSwift. Probably an update will come very soon. I was using it on my swift for 1-2 weeks, and I was happy with it. Now I changed the whole phone.
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It's wrong to say its for money.....all he does is a dedicated ftp server for donators....and a bit delayed public release.
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Back on topic, ps3 definitely will not see an adhoc network, just tried and when I scanned it didn't pick it up, when I entered my ssid manually it said it could not find it.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Back on topic, ps3 definitely will not see an adhoc network, just tried and when I scanned it didn't pick it up, when I entered my ssid manually it said it could not find it.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Sorry for the mislead, PS3 doesn't work with ad hoc networks.
But here is a possible solution:
1)Download latest WiFi tether beta http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta11.apk
2)Open it and then go to Settings
3)Change Device-Profile to Google NexusOne
4)Change Setup-Method to Netd (master)
5)Start tethering and that's it
Note: I haven't tested this on Mike's CM9 but it did work on CM7, so try it, and tell us if it works.
Just to warn you there is probability to get kernel panics with this settings.
EDIT: I have tested this on Mike's CM9 and can't get it to work. Simply wait till Mike fixes WiFi tethering, or flash CM7 or some other ROM.
You can try a couple of options...
1. Hosted Network Starter
Free: Simple hostpot on your pc with non configurable DHCP
www.nirsoft.net/utils/wifi_hotspot_starter.html
2. WiFi Tether Router
Paid: Android app for rooted phones with full featured DHCP, VPN, etc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter
Pick your poison
I have my HTC Desire, on which i have a large data bundle which i can use. I created a wifi hotspot from this phone using Barnacle and Wifi Tethering from OpenGarden.
I create the hotspot (tried both apps), and i can see it from my pc, but i cant see it from my SGS3?
Any help?
Give this a bump to see if anybody can help.
Thanks
Final bump, hope somebody knows why the SGS3 cannot pick up wifi hotspots from other phones.
If the other phone makes Ad-Hoc access point the S3 can't access it and so far it's impossible to make S3 use Ad-Hoc.
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If the other phone makes Ad-Hoc access point the S3 can't access it and so far it's impossible to make S3 use Ad-Hoc.
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wow scary
But isn't possible to modify the wpa_supplicant like it has been done for other versions of android ?
I read that the trick was to make the wpa_supplicant "think" the ad-hoc was infrastructure.
Every method so far kills the Wifi connection so you'll have to wait.
Thanks for the feedback. Did not know the SGS3 would not be able to connect to ad hoc wifi hotspots..
Any idea why they went this route?
Because Android by default does not support mesh networks (also called adhoc).
The reason it that wpa_supplicant's adhoc support is badly broken while adhoc networks consist of a complex peer-to-peer protocow withoue central infrastructure: insecurity, slowness and stabiliy issues are the consequences.
Only a few phones have adhoc support in a Rom with, afaik, all these roms being aftermarket
Are you sure your HTC phone is not capable of AP-mode wifi?
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Because Android by default does not support mesh networks (also called adhoc).
The reason it that wpa_supplicant's adhoc support is badly broken while adhoc networks consist of a complex peer-to-peer protocow withoue central infrastructure: insecurity, slowness and stabiliy issues are the consequences.
Only a few phones have adhoc support in a Rom with, afaik, all these roms being aftermarket
Are you sure your HTC phone is not capable of AP-mode wifi?
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My HTC Desire is rooted, so i did some googling and found out that wifi tether can be used and will simulate an infrastructure hotspot.
Now my SGS3 can see the hotspot, but its not connecting properly. Keeps getting stuck on the message "Obtaining IP address" so i am not sure if thats a problem on the HTC or SGS3 side.
Will do some fiddling today.